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 The Quad Core "Advantage"?, Quad vs Dual core in the REAL world

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kmarc
post Jan 3 2008, 08:39 PM

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One thing about technology is that you shouldn't buy tech for future-proofing as it will be obsolete before you know it....

Dual-core at the moment unless you are doing heavy multitasking, using video/audio apps or apps that can take advantage of all cores e.g. folding......

For games, there are none yet that fully utilizes all 4 cores, except maybe crysis....
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post Jan 3 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 3 2008, 08:52 PM)
i can't agree wif this statement cuz future-proof got lotz of type... like i recommended 1 of my fren to get this spec last July:

Intel Celeron 420 1.6GHz
Abit IN9 32X Max WiFi(fire dragon)
2GB Corsair XMS26400 C4
Forsa 8600GT
160GB Seagate SATA HDD
Panasonic SATA DVD burner

this spec is not very high end... but it's kinda future proof cuz it's upgradable easily and don necesarily need to spend a lot... this Celeron OC to 2.8GHz Super_PI gt 28s n 3Dmark06 got 5.8k... not a bad investment... and i think can consider future proof also...
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Wow! That's future proof? shocking.gif sweat.gif Like you said, "lotz of type of future-proof"...... guess your definition and mine is different.... wink.gif
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post Jan 4 2008, 10:46 AM

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No doubt more cores are better. For better future-proofing, definitely current quads would be better.

The issue here is that for current usage, is dual- or quad- more appropriate? No question about this if you're using apps that taxes heavily on all 4 cores. However, what about the majority, the average consumers that run BT, anti-virus, playing games, surfing, etc. For them, I shoudl think dual-core is the appropriate number of cores AT THE MOMENT.

Quads yes, especially when the Q9450 is introduced!! wub.gif


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post Jan 4 2008, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(drgadgets @ Jan 4 2008, 02:33 PM)
I do agree with kmarc statement that future-proofing should not be ur no 1 concern when buying tech. However, consider this: A new E6750 costs RM635 while a new Q6600 costs Rm935(latest price from C-zone). So it seems that the premium for the extra 2 cores isn't that high, right(about 50% more expensive)? And when multi-threading takes off, the quad cores have a potential for twice the speed of the dual-cores.
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An example of what I mean. Now using E6750 as it is enough for current usage. Q6600 would be better if you can utilize all 4 cores but more expensive.

Next upgrade for me would be Penryn Yorkfield Q9450 which is cooler, slightly faster clock-for-clock and have newer features such as SSE4.1. At that time, hopefully quad utilization is more in terms of programs/games/apps.

Can then sell off my E6750..... who wants to buy? laugh.gif

Edit : So my strategy is, go for the best bang for buck hardware appropriate at that moment in time, upgrade when necessary while selling off the older hardware..... Of course, I'll loose some money on selling but I guess that's the price I have to pay.....

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post Jan 5 2008, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 4 2008, 07:43 PM)
u should had compared E2160 and E6750 at 3.5GHz b4 paying for it... RM600+ vs RM300+ but the performance not really noticable... hmm.gif
At a high vcore for the E2160? No thanks...... Risk:benefit ratio not acceptable for me.... not to mention the heat.....
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post Jan 5 2008, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 5 2008, 09:41 AM)

the winner is clear.  wink.gif
Mana ade? It is not that straight forward.

If you look at that table, quad is good for video and 3D rendering but lose out on games and office apps. Disadvantage is quad is about rm300 more expensive and it is hotter, requiring better cooling for equivalent overclocks.....

In the end, it depends on what apps you use.......
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post Jan 8 2008, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(drgadgets @ Jan 8 2008, 05:45 AM)
I thought u wanted the most bang for ur buck? blink.gif A E2160 isn't that ex anyway. Even if it fails in 1/2 years time(very short for a proc) u can always used the money u save to get a newer proc biggrin.gif
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Definitely best bang for buck but not with increased risk of damage. If need to RMA, then no more bang for buck wor..... smile.gif

Anyway, next CPU I'm aiming for - Q9450 wub.gif


Added on January 8, 2008, 7:09 am
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 7 2008, 12:20 AM)
haiya... juz a few months or weeks only ma... if nex year than no need to wait lo...
err... not really high... it's still below 1.4V... and temp below 60C... no risks... unless u use crappy Mobo and crappy PSU... if not everything should be fine... tat's wat slightly more pricey mobos are for... unsure.gif
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Really? If that is the case, then the proc would be excellent. However, I think a lot of users had to set high vcore to get high OC, IINM..... hmm.gif

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