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 The Quad Core "Advantage"?, Quad vs Dual core in the REAL world

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bryanyeo87
post May 13 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 13 2008, 11:45 AM)
u shud get a quad....get q6600, great value!!!  thumbup.gif

those application dat u mention is design 2 utilized full potential of quad core.....................
u could always OC ur q6600..................
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get a dual and get a quad raptor raid 0 array.

i would assume the .BMP files are larger then 1gb

but seriously, quad doesnt have much use in everyday usage. unless you wanna run megui and convert stack of dvd's to h264 la.

in gaming, well, its never utilized to the max, most i see on rivatuner would be like say, 75% maximum per core on crysis and assasins creed.

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post May 13 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 13 2008, 11:59 AM)
crysis & assassin's creed is built 4 dual core....dis is y..............
the only game dat i know which fully support quad is supreme commander & lost planet..............

the fact is, wen u use ur pc, u dun just run 1 application @ a time...........
u might run game, antivirus scan, nero, browser &............@ da same time........
dis is wen more cores come in2 play...............
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crysis doenst even optimize 4 cores, when running the cpu benchmark of crysis, iw as looking at rivatuner on my 2nd monitor.

max it used was 75% 50% 25% 25% on all 4 cores at a particular time in the benchmark.

supreme commander is the same too, it will only ramp up to all 4 cores when u have like 8 players spammed across the map with 500 units each.

lost planet is 4 core optimized? recheck your facts pls.

assasin's creed uses like 90% 90% on a dual core. that i cannot confirm now, unless someone is willing to report back

AV scan uses 20% max, and that is for norton crapvirus, a better solution would be to get a raid0 array, since there will be more read/write access to the hdd. Nero conversion afaik, uses single thread. browser? wow, we need cpu powah to surf LYN D:

bottemline, what will you ever do with a quad? is it truly worth it or does it seem to be worth it.

and does the E8400 vs E2160 vs q6600 @ 3ghz differ much in everyday usage? hell no, in gaming? maybe a lil, but you barely notice it unless you're a dual monitor junkie like me keeping an eye on task manager and rivatuner

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post May 13 2008, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 13 2008, 12:33 PM)
oh. one thing about Photoshop. most of the time the core runs at like <4%.

only useful when applying filers and / or manipulating huge documents IMO.

quite often it doesn't actually utilize quad-core, not even dual-core capacity - especially when all you do is manipulate a few layers, cut here, crop there, apply filters over small area. smile.gif more RAM and more HDD space would actually be more helpful.

*yes, I use photoshop on nearly daily basis*
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no you dont need more space, you need 4x raptors in raid 0

or as much as your sata ports raid 0 on 320gb hdd's D:

coz afaik, .BMP files are a real pita when using photochop. its like 900mb files D:
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post May 15 2008, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 15 2008, 12:28 AM)
ie.

c2d 3.0 can OC till 4ghz = 33.33% improvement compared 2 original 3.0

c2q 2.4 can oc till 3.6ghz = 50% improvement compared 2 original 3.0

dun get me wrong, wad i'm saying is quad achieve better ratio not highest speed.........

ya, i compared using similar performing processor.........

b cause dual core originally clock @ such high speed, it cannot go higher due 2 heat..........
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to get 3.6ghz, not many can be done, either due to heat, or wall. and in malaysian weather, non aircond, water is only barely enough, and that is water with a custom loop.

try it and you will know. smile.gif


QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 15 2008, 12:43 AM)
i said generally...........
i accept criticism, cause i'm in good mood 2day...ha ha ha laugh.gif 

anyway, i'm talking bout max on air cooled..............

bt 1 fact u cannot deny is quad kick ass........ notworthy.gif
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max on air is not 3.6ghz, in malaysian weather using TRUE 120 ex with a nmb screamer, temps touched 68c at 3.4ghz, and i decided to called it quits, time to slap some water. dont believe? ask the Q6600 oc thread smile.gif

unless ofc you run aircond@ 20c , which is pretty much not fair laugh.gif


Added on May 15, 2008, 1:14 am
QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 15 2008, 01:06 AM)
k k, bt quad nowadays also quite cheap edi.........
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that is true, but only if you multi task that is, and multi task on multi threaded apps smile.gif



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post May 15 2008, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 15 2008, 01:01 AM)
yeah, there is some dual core is better den quad in stock speed.............
but quad tek bck da lead wen oc till max...................

seriously, i do recommend quad, great value.......
after all, the topic here is quad advantage........... icon_rolleyes.gif
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it depends, if you run multi threaded programs, then of course there is an advantage, but there is not that many programs that run multi thread at the moment smile.gif

what is max oc? for daily 24/7? i would give LYN forumers about say 3.4ghz max? its either due to heat or wall that they do not go higher


Added on May 15, 2008, 1:16 am
QUOTE(goldfries @ May 15 2008, 01:15 AM)
E2140 @ 100% easily. already proves your statement wrong.

your justification so far does not hold water.

judging by your posts so far, you're posting a bunch of nonsense. and i can see the hostility towards you, all because of the crap you posted.

so now, here's what i think

1. you better stop posting crap before i issue you a 10% warn
2. as to the rest - ignore the fella............NOT. if you see wrong information, kindly CORRECT IT. just do it in a polite way. simple as that.
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yes boss notworthy.gif

respect the red tagged people, they usually whoop ass tongue.gif

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post May 15 2008, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 15 2008, 01:19 AM)
i dun OC 24/7...........
u shud b able 2 reach 3.6 in n air con room.........
after all, q6600 can reach 90+ degree.............
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yea, i did reach 3.6ghz on a air cooler, xigmatek s1283 with nmb screamer to be exact.

volts were 1.375v, measured with a DMM,

guess the temps?


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