I'm building a new rig for around RM3800 which i will be using for gaming, animations and graphic designs. I was wondering which of this two quad core processor is better, Intel C2Q Q6600 (2.4Ghz) or AMD Phenom AM2+ 9600 (2.3Ghz)?

c2q is better...

Maybe you can try this
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware...om_9600/12.html

But its a QX6700.
i think no problem with Q6600 ah, high OCbility

C2Q as i now also building my new rig. now left Mobo, GC and HDD to totally finish the rig... haha.... waiting for salary ma... no money...

definitely C2Q6600

From what I've read,I think C2Q is better.Try searching in google for the benchmarks.

New technology still get pawn... im not offending AMD but its truth.
Im wondering how AMD cry if penryn released.

phenom ocbility: 2.3ghz to 2.7ghz if you are super lucky
c2q6600: 2.4ghz to 3.2ghz with stock vcore = piece of cake

phenom is going to be phailnom very real soon.

Seems so.It's very sad really even after AMD took so long to come out with something that couldn't even beat intel's.

lololololololololololol.....nice name for them

C2D Q6600 cache is better 8M compare to AMD phenom 9600+ cache is 2M...What is Cache?..cache is processor process speed...more cache more fast....

C2D Q6600 FSB is 1066 and AMD phenom 9600+ FSB is 3600...what is FSB? FSB is Input data and Output data speed to mobo.....is like a Highway between proc to mobo

For me gamer choose FSB higher better....no matter how good is ur cache...without good FSB...ur processor also cannot deliver output wih faster speed...

FSB so high, still lose ?

AMD sark in cache lu.....Q6600 8m wor...almost 4 times more cache to process the data from input to output.....heh....price q6600 is higher abit

Phenom is short lived, even MCM chips easily pawned Phenom, more over, 9600 has TLB errata, even Windows still run, and working, but it is an expensive errata,

get Intel C2Q

To OC this high, do i need to change the stock CPU cooler?

depends on your setting and ambient temp.
But most of Q6600 user would change the hsf, because its run warm...

What cooler is most suitable for Q6600 OC purposes?

depends loh...
AC Freezer 7 Pro...
follow shukhoi can also..
Thermal Right Ultra 120 Extreme
Thermal Right IFX-14 but too expensive Rm299

wait 45nm processor out le..thier said u can OC very high without changing the fans....E8400 3ghz to 4ghz in original fans idle temp is 45C

Original HSF not perform "very" well actually, see mine, idle 29C, load can fly to 70C.... Orthos power

Unlimited Phenom vs Unlimited Yorkfield

WE'VE SEEN a bit of Phenom's performance in the first part this past Friday - how about pushing it a bit further?

This round, I tuned the Phenom 9900 - unlocked CPU, keep in mind - test setup as far as possible within an extra day for fully stable operations under both Windows XP 32-bit and Vista 64-bit, and ran it against a fully tuned Intel QX9770 setup in an "AMD Best vs Intel Best" approach.

One may say that it's not fair since Intel's CPU is more expensive, however, on the other hand, the AMD one can't be bought at all for some time to come.

Both AMD and Intel configurations used dual Asus EAH3870 TOP cards in both default and Crossfire modes, and identical Windows and Catalyst driver versions - so, as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible.

Besides the usual 32-bit benchmarks, the 64-bit run added CineBench10 and PovRay 3.7.

The Limits

This is where the Intel and AMD configurations differ in 32-bit and 64-bit modes: Intel could do 4.27 GHz (multiplier 10, FSB1708) in both modes, but the voltage needed for the 64-bit mode was 1.425 volts vs 1.40 volts for the 32-bit mode, if all tests were to complete.

When using Asetek Vapochill freeze cooling, the limits are 4.6 GHz FSB1840 at 1.45 volts Vcpu in 32 bit mode, and 4.5 GHz FSB1800 at 1.4625 volt Vcpu in 64-bit mode. However, this test run only uses the results obtainable on the usual high-end air or water cooling.

In the AMD case, the absolute limit on my setup with similar air or water cooling was 2.88 GHz (14 x FSB206) at 1.325 volts CPU in 32-bit mode, and 2.80 GHz (14 x FSB200) at 1.337 volts CPU in 64-bit mode for a complete test run. Even then, though, the PCMark Vantage 64-bit run couldn't be completed.

The push to 1.35 and 1.363 volts didn't give any improvement except more heat, so there was obviously no point trying harder.

I didn't really bother to push the memory too much here beyond reasonable latency tuning, as CPU speed is the obvious focus of the story - Phenom has no problems with memory performance, as in Sandra cases it still has a slight 10% - 20% advantage in synthetic memory subsystem speed runs over the Intel offerings.

However, even after accounting for its L3 cache exclusivity, Phenom still has only one-third cacheable data size compared to the dual-die Yorkfield and that seemingly more than neutralises its on-die memory controller advantage.



Source : http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/new...ions-amd-phenom

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This post has been edited by Evilkyro: Jan 2 2008, 05:33 PM

lol..do u still remember how amd pawn intel when P4 HT was release?haha..so now same goes to amd..take turns i guess

way to go intel

KINDA AGREE WITH YOU!!!
for me, my money oso on d c2q or even c2d e6850 (OCed) can beat phenom anytime...
so y must go with phenom???
and for d e8400, wait a couple of weeks and see d price list first...
if its cheaper than phenom, u know d rest...

keke....that time Im still noob in pc stuff...only read magazine.
i really dont know AMD Athlon64 pawn P4 HT kaw kaw that time.
I think i was form1 that time. Only know Nvidia vs ATI

If you want a 2 graphics card configuration, Phenom mobos come a LOT cheaper (Half price of 780i or X38) and for gaming, that's really acceptable.

So it's not completely lost (except on people who compare $350 CPUs and $1000 CPUs LAWL)

On the other hand, if you use only 1 graphics card, Q6600.

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Jan 2 2008, 06:08 PM

no doubt Q6600 ever since i am so disappointed with phailom

i really dont understand u all
how to compare proc that has such huge price gap
maybe the phenom are juz low-mid end? maybe amd coming with higher end? who knows lol

huge price gap ?
this phenom quite ok what. Not really low-mid end. pawn core 2 duo, almost. due to Quad-Core

AMD always like Boeing Aircraft...always wait and see...then come out something really best......Intel is like Airbus..always invent something new first...then AMD will wait and see then take over Intel.....LOL...Since AMD already invent the ''REAL''quad tech......wait and see...wait and see.....LOL

this time Phenom is becoming to Phailnom.
Penryn pawn it kaw kaw. I cant wait for it

Phenom hasn't come out with higher speed/models yet.

I dunno, people here just like CPU speeds high for some e-penis thing called 3DMark.

if stock c2q vs stock phenom who will win ??

lol, have a read
Intel delay their lineup, waiting for AMD
AMD: We innovate, Intel copy

thats a good 1!!

it's a fair comparison right?

q6600 and 9600 ... priced at same price point... RM9xx

dude, do some homework first before you make comment like this.
intel should be similar with Boeing in the market: huge profit, highly independent company without support from government, big R&D investment and they are from the same country.
while amd should be similar with Airbus: low profit, supported by France government(AMD is supported by Germany government), small R&D investment if compare to Boeing, they are from the same continent .

Weird. I don't see AMD "Phail"nom processor as "real quad technology". I see it as a severely crippled quad core processor with one core disabled and expensive TLC errata "Built-In".

Who cares if AMD really develops "out of this world" or "alien-like" technology? AMD should know that crappy processor won't sell. Yeah I like AMD processor, but crippled and buggy processor will NEVER fit my budget.

It's the processor with the best performance at the best price that wins in the end.

This post has been edited by PCchapX: Jan 3 2008, 09:47 AM

yes pawn C2D but not C2Q/C2E and worst penryn

No need to cry. Phenom sell for RM400. We all jump for joy.

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Added on January 3, 2008, 11:54 amErr...i thought read somewhere, high end C2D already pawn Phenom....

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 3 2008, 11:54 AM

I read some review, Dual Core C2D cant pawn Phenom Quad Core.

Hmm...if phenom selling Rm400. I will jump for joy too.

of course C2Q Q6600, Phenom is UTTER CRAP!!

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Added on January 3, 2008, 12:45 pmhttp://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html

This post has been edited by bushido_81: Jan 3 2008, 12:45 PM

High end Dual Core C2D did pawn Phenom recent B2 release (the ones with TLC patch).

See here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13741/3