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gecodine
post Mar 2 2009, 10:16 PM

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Can anyone tell me, is FOREX is the future foreign exchange?

Is it OTC or exchange traded? bcoz i heard from my fren, it is OTC, but the future can't traded in OTC, bcoz of its nature of contract which is standardize rite...

Why in future only have FKLI and FCPO, how to find or trade in corn index and other commodities index?

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post Jul 30 2009, 04:02 PM

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Hi anyone talking abaout futures anymore...?
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post Jul 30 2009, 04:04 PM

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Couple of ppl here still trading futures.
Anything u want to know?
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:29 AM

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AMBank is promoting their new real time DMA platform & offering HP™ Mini H110 netbook to their active traders. Anyone into this.
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so here discuss about derivatives is it?
i wanna ask bout warrant... after i bought some warrant at a specific price, am i allowed to resell it in the open market like a normal share?
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post Aug 25 2009, 11:42 AM

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About CPO futures, what's the minimum capital needed to buy one lot?

Does the amount depend on the current price or fixed?

If I hold a position overnight, is there a margin call per lot?
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post Aug 25 2009, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Gilly @ Aug 25 2009, 11:42 AM)
About CPO futures, what's the minimum capital needed to buy one lot?

Does the amount depend on the current price or fixed?

If I hold a position overnight, is there a margin call per lot?
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http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/tr...ular/index.html
you can always check for the latest margin rate here, currently the rate is 7250 for spot month and 7000 for the others.

the margin rate is set by Bursa. you will be called for margin if the price moves against you when you hold the position overnight
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post Aug 26 2009, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(gecodine @ Mar 2 2009, 10:16 PM)
Can anyone tell me, is FOREX is the future foreign exchange?

Is it OTC or exchange traded? bcoz i heard from my fren, it is OTC, but the future can't traded in OTC, bcoz of its nature of contract which is standardize rite...

Why in future only have FKLI and FCPO, how to find or trade in corn index and other commodities index?
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Hi there,
FOREX is OTC market. While futures is exchange traded. product depend on the exchange,like here popular product is FCPO and FKLI. if you want to trade Corn or Wheat, Chicago Board of Exchage (CBOT) offer it. To trade foreign futures product, you can open account with foreign broker or local. So far only 2 local broker house can offer to trade foreign futures market. Okachi and Phillip

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post Sep 9 2009, 04:08 PM

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Good explanation on whether a retail/speculator can take delivery of an instrument?

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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Sep 9 2009, 03:36 PM)
Let me share the little bit I know about physical delivery of CPO in settlement of an open position in the futures market.I was involved in  this last time but after I became a Remisier,I'm not involved anymore ,so with the lapse of time,my knowledge may be outdated.Devil may be able to provide better insight on this.

In real life,the delivery of CPO to a retail client would not occur,there is procedure built in when the spot month is nearing expiry,the Clearing house will enquire from the futures broker as to the intention of their clients whether the client intend to take/effect physical delivery of the CPO.

At the same time,the initial margin on the spot month will also be increased progressively to match the full contract value as the expiry of the contract becomes nearer.This will ensure that the buyer/seller and the clearing house is fully protected in the event of default by one of the party.

If the client does not meet the increased minimum l margin requirement,the open contract will be forced sold before trading ceases.Then no physical delivery takes place.

The CPO delivery is at an approved port tank installation opted by the seller located in Port Klang,Butterworth or Pasir Gudang.not to the buyers address.Buyer must arrange for own transport to collect the CPO from the port tank installation.The rental of the port tank installation is prepaid by the seller for a period of 1 month(not quite sure about this )On expiry of one month and if the buyer fails to take delivery,further rental will be borne by him.

If seller fails to effect delivery,then the clearing house will step in and buy the oil from the cash market,deliver to the port tank installation, and charge the difference to the sellers account.

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post Sep 9 2009, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 7 2009, 11:29 AM)
AMBank is promoting their new real time DMA platform & offering HP™ Mini H110 netbook to their active traders. Anyone into this.
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u must have certain vol to get this free of charge
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post Sep 10 2009, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Sep 9 2009, 04:08 PM)
Good explanation on whether a retail/speculator can take delivery of an instrument?
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On FCPO

Long position holder MUST take delivery if they didn't close their LONG POSITION by 12p.m on 15th of the month (the last trading day for spot month contract, ie, 15th Aug for AUG 09 contract)

Short position holder MUST submit the NSR(which is issued by tank installation owner) to Bursa after delivering the oil to approved tank installation by 20th of the contract month.

The question here, our Malaysia Palm Oil Board has rules on transferring CPO so the speculator MUST have the liscen to transfer CPO in order to take or send physical oil.


Added on September 10, 2009, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(Gilly @ Aug 25 2009, 11:42 AM)
About CPO futures, what's the minimum capital needed to buy one lot?

Does the amount depend on the current price or fixed?

If I hold a position overnight, is there a margin call per lot?
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to trade one lot and to hold the minimum margin rate = 7250 for spot month and 7000 for forward months

An holding position overnight example when u have 7000 in ur trading account:

contract size of FCPO: 1 lot = 25tons of cpo

IF u buy one lot Nov09 contract at 2200 today and u didn't sell it off today, u will be holding the one lot overnight.

IF the closing prices of today's Nov 09 contract = 2180 and your FBR didnt force u to sell it off during auction time

u will get margin call on tomorrow morning.

The amount that you have to top up (the margin call) = (2200 - 2180) * 1 *25 = rm500


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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Sep 9 2009, 08:06 PM)
u must have certain vol to get this free of charge
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vol need to hit 1000 lots and above for the particular month

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post Sep 21 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Mar 2 2009, 09:56 PM)
Keen to trade futures online ? drool.gif

get more info about DMA http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/trading/DMA/
or download the handbook http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/tr...MA_Handbook.pdf

DMA Rate (online trade)
FKLI : RM 16 per way (RM32 per round turn)
FCPO : RM 9 per way (RM18 per round turn) INTRADAY
FCPO : RM 14 per way (RM28 per round turn) OVERNIGHT

anyone can get lower than above rate? hmm.gif
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May i know which broker offer this rate?? good rate.
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post Sep 24 2009, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(tblee88 @ Sep 21 2009, 08:03 PM)
May i know which broker offer this rate?? good rate.
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DMA rates la..sure better than normal rate

or u got huge volume, then u can got these good rate too through normal brokers
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post Sep 24 2009, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(moody5 @ Sep 24 2009, 12:28 PM)
DMA rates la..sure better than normal rate

or u got huge volume, then u can got these good rate too through normal brokers
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Ya i know is DMA rate but still very low the cpo overnight is only RM28
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post Sep 25 2009, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(tblee88 @ Sep 24 2009, 07:48 PM)
Ya i know is DMA rate but still very low the cpo overnight is only RM28
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for small kaki.. DMA caused around RM250 per month if i didnt remember mistakely

but u need to bear the risk of key in wrongly..hahaha
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QUOTE(moody5 @ Sep 25 2009, 09:03 AM)
for small kaki.. DMA caused around RM250 per month if i didnt remember mistakely

but u need to bear the risk of key in wrongly..hahaha
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Got risk filter, just tell the futures broker - what u can afford and what u will be buying (product etc...) ..

they will set the parameters for you.

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post Sep 25 2009, 10:17 AM

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I'm still waiting for my god-brother in Hong Kong's email.

If CI futures doesn't work, I will go for Hong Kong market.

*sweat*
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post Sep 25 2009, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Sep 25 2009, 10:17 AM)
I'm still waiting for my god-brother in Hong Kong's email.

If CI futures doesn't work, I will go for Hong Kong market.

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hahaha i am looking in Hong KOng market too rclxm9.gif

risk control? can work? in term of quantity and prices maybe can but what if u SELL instead of BUY?

hahaha wanted to long then turn to be short

key in buy stop and sell stop also need takut lee
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post Sep 27 2009, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Sep 25 2009, 10:17 AM)
I'm still waiting for my god-brother in Hong Kong's email.

If CI futures doesn't work, I will go for Hong Kong market.

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My advice if u r not good enough better don't trade HK futures lbcos the market is too fast 5 times faster than CPO .up and down like rocket some more cannot put stop order .
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post Sep 27 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(tblee88 @ Sep 27 2009, 02:39 AM)
My advice if u r not good enough better don't trade HK futures lbcos the market is too fast 5 times faster than CPO .up and down like rocket some more cannot put stop order .
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No, i'm not going to HK futures. I go for stock markets.

KLCI stocks like snail, that's why I go for KLCI futures. But now i found out KLCI futures also sucks. So, now i go for HK stocks.

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