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Plantation Counters, Which is your first pick?
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skiddtrader
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Jan 31 2008, 11:38 PM
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I've taken a recent interest in plantation stocks like IOIcorp, Asiatic etc. The CPO prices have proven it can hold it's own after a while and price of crude oil aren't going to drop anytime soon. This will mean, at least for me that the plantations stocks that has high yield will make a killing in 1st 2 quarters of 2008. What do you guys think
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skiddtrader
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Feb 12 2008, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Feb 11 2008, 11:29 PM) Hi, sorry for my lack of knowledge in symbols, can you kindly elaborate "Asiatic 15x 08 estimate earnings", what does 15x 08 means please? Asiatic PE15x based on estimated earnings of 2008. So "Asiatic 15x 08" is just a short way of saying it.
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skiddtrader
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Feb 12 2008, 10:07 PM
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KLK announced today they are going to release their quarterly report on the 20th Feb. Coinciding with BKAWAN dividend ex-date. I wonder why the coincidence.
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skiddtrader
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Feb 29 2008, 06:21 PM
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Wow and I thought CPO target as RM4k by end of 2008. First quarter already RM3994 achieved, anyone believe its going to pop soon?
Currently already 2 months into the 1st quarter of 2008 and CPO has been rising non-stop. Results of all this sales will be reported by May 08. And don't forget, May futures is RM3994 at last trade.
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skiddtrader
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Apr 29 2008, 11:31 PM
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Re-visiting this thread, because my interests for plantations have not abated.
Currently trying to get as much information as I can from the plantation business. From crop cycles to market sentiments.
Eyeing Asiatic as 1st choice, with IOICORP as 2nd choice.
Anyone have anything to share about these two companies, just post it here for all to see.
Added on August 7, 2008, 12:33 pmThis thread needs a bump due to plantation drop now. Let's re-evaluate our chosen stocks.
This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Aug 7 2008, 12:33 PM
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skiddtrader
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Aug 7 2008, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Apr 29 2008, 11:31 PM) Re-visiting this thread, because my interests for plantations have not abated. Currently trying to get as much information as I can from the plantation business. From crop cycles to market sentiments. Eyeing Asiatic as 1st choice, with IOICORP as 2nd choice. Anyone have anything to share about these two companies, just post it here for all to see. Added on August 7, 2008, 12:33 pmThis thread needs a bump due to plantation drop now. Let's re-evaluate our chosen stocks. At last, Thanks Adam for teaching me haha. I'm such a noob in forums.
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skiddtrader
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Oct 4 2008, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(rayloo @ Oct 4 2008, 06:00 PM) I will get in when the crude oil price is low enough to rebound. Added information, Europe will cut the contain of palm oil in the bio mixed fuel from 5.35% to 5%. I become interested in plantation counters due to the potential need of palm oil in fuel. But Warren Buffet invested in electric powered vehicle made me wondering, which is the trend of the fuel in future ? Palm oil rely on convention crude oil to get its value, whereas electricity is a standalone power supply and less polluted. Seems electricity stands better future. Hope Palm oil remains as the main and populor cooking oil consumed. Really depends which is more viable. A lot of people are against palm oil to be used as bio-diesel because it would raised food prices further. Electricity still needs some form of fuel to generate it at power plants. Maybe for small cars, it's easier to go towards electricity charged energy but for heavy vehicles and commercial industries would not be easily powered by electricity. Haha surprisingly no one is pushing for solar powered cars, since it is free and no one can profit from it.
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skiddtrader
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Oct 8 2008, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(rayloo @ Oct 5 2008, 11:37 PM) QUOTE("darkknight81") Mind to share how you derived on the target price of RM 3.70? Based on its growth and PER. Just my kampung calculation to protect myself with safe margin.  Rayloo, almost reach your TP today. Lowest was RM3.74.
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skiddtrader
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Oct 8 2008, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(rayloo @ Oct 8 2008, 10:38 AM) QUOTE("skiddtrader") Rayloo, almost reach your TP today. Lowest was RM3.74. Fair value is RM3.70, but minus safe margin 30% becomes RM2.60, that is only my price. Can't get 50% off ! I think. Well you never know.
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skiddtrader
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Nov 13 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 13 2008, 09:33 PM) LOL, oil and palm oil are 2 totally different product, although the price movement of commodities generally is positive and highly correlated, but it doesn't need to follow on oil movement exactly. You can't subsitute between both of them. You can cook with crude oil nor you can fill up your car with palm oil. Both price is actually move on their own on the basic of their fudnamental issue i.e. demand and supply, but commodities generally and mostly move in correlated pattern as it has to do with general economy demand. Like Cheeroy said, only after a certain price does the CPO follows the Crude oil. As when the crude become cheaper, there is no need for CPO to substitute crude anymore and thus lost it's support for it's higher price. So it doesn't mean that crude falls to USD15 the CPO also follows it down. CPO has it's own support from consumer consumption and ensures it stays above the RM1k range. Consumption demand is still there, just that the demand for it to be a substitute for crude oil is not there anymore.
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skiddtrader
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May 11 2009, 11:35 AM
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U can put even a monkey in management, as long as it is making money and being managed well, nobody cares.
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