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post Jan 9 2014, 07:40 PM

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I don't see you all post UNITED PLANTATIONS BERHAD, so I post it.
Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/9/2013
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1471109
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post Jan 9 2014, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jan 9 2014, 07:40 PM)
I don't see you all post UNITED PLANTATIONS BERHAD, so I post it.
Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/9/2013
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1471109
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Very expensive stock at RM25.80... based on latest qterly EPS of 18.76 (= RM0.75), giving PER of 34.4...IMO on the high side, also NAS is 10.43, meaning current price is nearly 2.5X NAS. IMO, the share is over-priced.

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post Jan 10 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 9 2014, 08:09 PM)
Very expensive stock at RM25.80... based on latest qterly EPS of 18.76 (= RM0.75), giving PER of 34.4...IMO on the high side, also NAS is 10.43, meaning current price is nearly 2.5X NAS. IMO, the share is over-priced.
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utdplt is the highest EPS and NTA among all plantation stocks and it consistently giving over 4.5% dividend.
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post Jan 10 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 9 2014, 08:09 PM)
Very expensive stock at RM25.80... based on latest qterly EPS of 18.76 (= RM0.75), giving PER of 34.4...IMO on the high side, also NAS is 10.43, meaning current price is nearly 2.5X NAS. IMO, the share is over-priced.
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Ya the PER is crazy although he company is cash rich... there are many more reasonably priced plantation with even better performance.
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post Jan 10 2014, 10:49 AM

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If u r plantations lover, y dun consider Genp-wa
Lower cap outlay with 5.5 yrs option
Small premium with wrt xercise @ 7.75
Lastly gearing > 3x
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post Jan 11 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 9 2014, 08:09 PM)
Very expensive stock at RM25.80... based on latest qterly EPS of 18.76 (= RM0.75), giving PER of 34.4...IMO on the high side, also NAS is 10.43, meaning current price is nearly 2.5X NAS. IMO, the share is over-priced.
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I can only get PER of 21.36 as link, http://klse.neobie.net/detail.php?code=2089

Do you mind give us your link?
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post Jan 11 2014, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jan 11 2014, 12:13 AM)
I can only get PER of 21.36 as link, http://klse.neobie.net/detail.php?code=2089

Do you mind give us your link?
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There's no link; I've given all figures to get PER. qterly earnings of 18.76 cents, so annualized = 18.76 x 4 = RM0.75. Current price is RM25.8, so PER = Price/Earnings = 25.8/0.75 = 34.4. QED.

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post Jan 11 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 11 2014, 02:23 PM)
There's no link; I've given all figures to get PER. qterly earnings of 18.76 cents, so annualized = 18.76 x 4 = RM0.75. Current price is RM25.8, so PER = Price/Earnings = 25.8/0.75 = 34.4. QED.
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How can you use the lowest EPS to representation 4 quarters EPS. As you can see the link I provide, total EPS for 3 quarter is 77.79. Let's take average is 25.93.

Thus, total 4 quarter EPS should be 103.72 (77.79+25.93) and PER should be 24.88 (25.8/1.0372).
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post Jan 11 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 10 2014, 10:49 AM)
If u r plantations lover, y dun consider Genp-wa
Lower cap outlay with 5.5 yrs option
Small premium with wrt xercise @ 7.75
Lastly gearing > 3x
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But latest qterly earnings of 4.79 cents is sucks (previous yr corresponding qter is 12.05 cents). Also NAS only RM4.48 vs current price of RM10.74. U can find a number of plantation stocks with NAS higher than current price.

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post Jan 11 2014, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 11 2014, 09:33 PM)
But latest qterly earnings of 4.79 cents is sucks (previous yr corresponding qter is 12.05 cents). Also NAS only RM4.48 vs current price of RM10.74. U can find a number of plantation stocks with NAS higher than current price.
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Last yr CPO is weak
Dis yr every1 xpect at least 2500
U can't invest solely based on NAS > price
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post Jan 11 2014, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 10 2014, 10:49 AM)
If u r plantations lover, y dun consider Genp-wa
Lower cap outlay with 5.5 yrs option
Small premium with wrt xercise @ 7.75
Lastly gearing > 3x
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OSK warrant has 0 premium.
OSK price RM1.55. OSK-W price RM0.55. Exercise price RM1.

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post Jan 11 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 11 2014, 09:56 PM)
OSK warrant has 0 premium.
OSK price RM1.55. OSK-W price RM0.55. Exercise price RM1.
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R u sure Osk or Oskprop?
Anyway, u can't compare property -v- plantation sector
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post Jan 11 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 11 2014, 10:04 PM)
R u sure Osk or Oskprop?
Anyway, u can't compare property -v- plantation sector
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Sorry, OSKProp. Also sometimes the premium is -ve.

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post Apr 17 2014, 03:52 PM

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I re-post recommended readings by gark here...

Plantation companies with best growth potential (Part 1/2)
Plantation companies with best growth potential (Part 2/2)
Firstres vs Bumitama vs TSH

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post Apr 18 2014, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 17 2014, 03:52 PM)
Long story short... he propose FR
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post Apr 18 2014, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 18 2014, 01:56 AM)
Long story short... he propose FR
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eh... he (Bursa Dummy) says in the 3rd posts:
'In conclusion, First Resources, Bumitama & TSH Resources are all good.'

gark
What is your pick?

Another thing is:
If CPO price goes up, will the buyers look for alternatives?
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post Apr 18 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 18 2014, 08:42 AM)
eh... he (Bursa Dummy) says in the 3rd posts:
'In conclusion, First Resources, Bumitama & TSH Resources are all good.'

gark
What is your pick?

Another thing is:
If CPO price goes up, will the buyers look for alternatives?
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I have FR, CBIP and TSH... and BWPT on IDX

Not likely, CPO is the cheapest edible oil there is, there are no cheaper alternative. CPO price usually follow soybean oil price and trade at at a discount. This is the biggest moat for CPO, and with land in indonesia fast running out, the with the biggest landbank wins in the end.

The article is not meant for you to just scroll down and read the conclusion., you will learn nothing from it. It is meant to educate you on how to select plantations and that is invalueable when you analyze other or new plantations.

Ignore the conclusion given by the author, make your own....

This post has been edited by gark: Apr 18 2014, 11:01 AM
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post Apr 25 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE
El Nino could start as early as July 2014, says Australian bureau

Australia's Bureau of Meteorology said all the climate models it polled indicate an El Nino pattern is likely in 2014, with six of the seven models predicting the threshold could be surpassed as early as July 2014, Bloomberg reported.
http://www.businessinsurance.com/article/2...EWS09/140429941

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Good news for plantation stocks?

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post Apr 25 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 25 2014, 08:48 AM)
Not really.. this means the price will be up but harvest will be severely down. So not really a good news.
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post Jul 14 2014, 07:08 PM

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TSH acquires plantation unit for US$7.65 mil
http://www.nst.com.my/node/12946


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