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Ethan
post Nov 30 2018, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(ganaesan @ Nov 19 2018, 10:16 AM)
Meaning its not worth to take the 20% discount offer?

I remember there was a blog wrote about it with some calculation done to show it is actually worth to take up the offer...

But now the question is, worth to pay by cash or take out EPF?? I'm in tht dilemma now..

Any input from you guys???
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Whether it is better to use EPF saving to settle the remaining balance and enjoy 20% off... It depends on your balance amount and current monthly repayment amount.

I make an Excel table for the calculation and it shows I get to save a little more by settling the loan now (using EPF).

Points to consider for the calculation. Some pro some cons...

1. EPF does not guarantee 4% or 6% or 8% return. 2.5% is possible. You have no control.
2. Settling PTPTN loan clears it off your CCRIS. Good if you're planning to buy bigger house.
3. EPF's dividend is calculated based on daily-rest.
4. Flexibility in cash flow is good.
5. Discipline is very important (as in everything about money).

If you have the discipline to still contribute the monthly repayment amount into a good investment (stocks, mutual funds, etc) after settling the PTPTN loan; then you should be fine.

If you use the additional cash flow for shopping (zero-interest 24-month installment plan for iPhone) after settling the PTPTN loan; then you are screwed.

All in all, if you have no idea what I'm talking about... Just keep your EPF money where it is now and pay PTPTN every month.

This post has been edited by Ethan: Nov 30 2018, 09:23 AM
Ethan
post Dec 7 2018, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 7 2018, 09:23 AM)
Does anyone know what exactly is needed for EPF account 2 withdrawal? I planned to withdraw around 67% of it and the remaining will be paid from my CC to earn some cash back before converting to 12 months BT.

I Googled and I can apply via online e-Pengeluaran form, however I cannot remember my tarikh mula pengajian and tamat pengajian. Also the dates can only be backdated to last 10 years, I started my degree program before that. blush.gif

I guess I have no choice but to walk into the nearest EPF centre to apply for withdrawal. If anybody knows what else is needed besides my Degree transcript and cert, then please let me know. smile.gif I just don't want to spend few trips there for the same thing.

Also how long will it take for it to be transferred to PTPTN? Thanks!
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A friend of mine went to apply for full settlement using her money in EPF Account 2.
Submission and all went smooth until... an SMS from KWSP saying withdrawal has been rejected.
Reason given is the transcript & degree scroll provided do not tally with the course mentioned in the loan offer letter.

She was from MMU. She took the foundation study which is a 1-year program prior to the 3-year management degree program. Apparently KWSP treat this "completion of foundation study and continue with degree program" as a "course change"... and rejected the withdrawal.

If you are in similar situation, you will need letters from PTPTN and the institution (in her case, MMU)... saying you have changed course, or explain the situation to KWSP.

Good luck.
Ethan
post Dec 9 2018, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(SureshG @ Dec 9 2018, 09:25 AM)
I really think you shouldn't use your EPF money to settle your loan. Best to just pay monthly because PTPTN is a 1% interest loan and you're giving up returns of an average of 6% for a 1% loan.

If your amount of loan remaining is small though, I would recommend taking the 20% and using a credit card interest free payment to double back and repay it all in the next 12 months.
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There ARE benefits using the EPF money to settle the loan now.

First off, you get to clear one item off your CCRIS.
Then, you get to enjoy a 20% off your debt.
And... 10 20 years down the road, nobody knows for sure about EPF's dividend payout.

There are investment which gives return better than EPF. nod.gif

So, it's up to one's situation and financial planning.

Ethan
post Dec 9 2018, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 7 2018, 04:45 PM)
Holy and I was from MMU. doh.gif
I already paid off my foundation money. Now is Degree loan, another thing is I changed my course from Engineering to Business and MMU didn't report to PTPTN. So, eventually my PTPTN loan was still based on Engineering... Of course my cert was from Business. sweat.gif

The thing is I was told no loan offer letter was required, so how did EPF know about this? hmm.gif

I haven't gone into "E-Pengeluaran" yet. doh.gif I guess I will be in deep shit now.

Edit: Managed to speak to MMU regarding this and they will help me to get one confirmation.. Apparently, there are a few ex-students have called to get this letter... Hopefully I will get one as my graduation has happened some time back. laugh.gif
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Yes, apparently there are a few students (including my friend) have called MMU and asking for letter regarding this matter. That's why I am telling you about it.
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post Dec 12 2018, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 9 2018, 10:35 PM)
Thanks for the alert! Else, I will have to redo everything again and losing out a lot of time. How long did it take for your friend to get her letter from MMU? For my case, I checked with the Students Affairs department and unfortunately my details were already archived, they will need some time to retrieve from Finance department.

Imagine I fill in form and what not then receive rejection SMS. sweat.gif
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My friend's application has been approved yesterday. :-)
Got the notification sms when we were having lunch together yesterday.

Actually, it took MMU (Exam & Records Unit, Melaka) 4 biz days to retrieve the record of entrance and continuation to degree program. She called them everyday to follow up... hehe.

The letter from MMU was in an email. When submitting, KWSP requested for "certified true copy"... WHAT?!?! doh.gif
But they back off and accepted the printed letter after showing them the email from MMU.

It's another 4 days before KWSP replied to confirm the withdrawal.

Now it's all done.

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post Dec 12 2018, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 12 2018, 10:25 AM)
I got the letter from MMU Bursary yesterday (less than 2 working days) and immediately sent it over to a PTPTN officer. He helped me to do something in the system before I'm allowed to apply in EPF system. He did it quite instantly and followed with my withdrawal which he has approved as well. Now waiting for EPF SMS to go to nearest EPF for biometric verification.

I'm almost there. laugh.gif
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Good for you.

My friend's application was rejected (due to the "change course" issue") after the biometric verification.
She is so glad it's all settled now.

PTPTN staff told her the monthly salary deduction would still go on for this month for one last time. And then the excess amount paid would be returned... No idea how soon though.



 

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