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post Apr 11 2008, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 11 2008, 11:23 AM)
Which Euro region/product code you choose ?
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I use this one 0549174 EURO1

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Imho i dont think its illegal to discuss about this as different product code supports different language. So changing the product codes means we want a specific language. Anyway if a mod as me to remove it , i have no problems about it.

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post Apr 12 2008, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(tzethye @ Apr 11 2008, 10:28 PM)
guys..did any of u purchased any new ngage games?i m thinking of purchasing asphalt 3 ...but the price stated there is 7.99...is it in euro or rm?did any of u guys here successfully purchased any games?
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Not yet. Right now busy playing with God of war and metal gear acid rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Fearless @ Apr 13 2008, 03:37 AM)
Law Yat shopowner told me in July. Already in the Singapore market now.


Added on April 13, 2008, 3:58 am

See a link on how to turn off flash, shuttler sound and red-eye features for N95.

http://noknok.tv/tutorial/turn-your-n95-in...ate-spy-gadget/

I haven't tried yet...be careful for virus and software bug.

Any hero want to try first at your own risk?

Anyway, how to to change product code? I will follow safer path to kill off shutter sound.  notworthy.gif
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credit to deodorant

download Nemesis software, change product code , reflash firmware, profit! laugh.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 13 2008, 11:14 AM)
after updating my firmware,some problems came up:

1)there's no wifi scan on the active standby screen.
2)i cant check my firmware

anyone else having these problems?
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Nope. But the icon changed to slightly bigger and different font. Thats the only change.

QUOTE(Fearless @ Apr 13 2008, 11:42 AM)
After you install europe version firmware, and turn off shuttle sound. That small flashing red light is still on or off?
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Yes. Maybe the europe law implementation is like that. I have no problem with that. (unless you're trying to capture some kinky pictures laugh.gif )
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post Apr 14 2008, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(suki @ Apr 14 2008, 01:43 AM)
I had that problem too. Luckily, after hours of googling, i found someone in symbianfreak's forum who have the same issue.

Seems like a problem with the cable drivers after updating to the latest NSU.
So, the solution is to uninstall latest NSU (though i myself uninstalled everything), and install the old version that came with the CD.
Run Nemesis. Should be able to detect your phone now.

It's tedious to change back your code though... lol.  wink.gif
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If you want to change the product code simply run the nss back and change the product code. Always save the old code for future reference. wink.gif
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post Apr 14 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Fearless @ Apr 14 2008, 11:37 AM)
I used europe 2 code and reinstalled firmware, seems silent mode does not work for my set.

Not sure how you set the silent mode.

It was too risky to re-install firmware  because my PC can hang up at anytime.  sad.gif
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i use this code 0549174 - euro-1 . By switching to silent mode (hold # key) it'll silent the snapshot tune. Alternatively you can switch the snapshot tune at settings -> general -> personalization -> tones -> warning tones {swtitch to off}

Hope this helps.

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post Apr 14 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Fearless @ Apr 14 2008, 11:49 AM)
NSS cannot run for latest NSU and PC suite.

Both my PC and notebook showed similar problem. After uninstalled new NSU and PC Suite and installed back NSU and PC suite from CDROM, NSS is ok.

The old code is printed in the product label underneath the battery compartment. My code is 0555094, definitely is not Malaysian code.

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dang.no idea that it wont work for latest nsu. Maybe have to wait latest version for nss.
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post Apr 15 2008, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 15 2008, 04:42 PM)
I think I just found a jewel  drool.gif

How to hack your phone to install unsigned apps.

After this hack you'll be able to install unsigned applications without SymbianSigned

Anyone wants to try it ?
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Is it the python hack? its been discussed at Symbianfreak. Too many steps and too many ways to screw up your unit sweat.gif . Still Kinda tempting tho.

alternatively you can head on here for another solution wink.gif

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(yea i just figured out how to use scanlife laugh.gif )
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(suki @ Apr 15 2008, 10:50 PM)
Talking bout barcodes, seems like Barcode Reader (that came with N82) also got an update.
Now there's a square to hightlight where it's trying to read, sorta like face detection... cool.
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yeap its really cool. too bad cant use animated sms since it was only for HK Product code 0555094 only. Go and read my previous code. Theres lots of goodies over there brows.gif
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post Apr 16 2008, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 16 2008, 10:17 AM)
Ohya, since you are on EURO-1, can you view/write SMS, etc. in Chinese ? If can, I'm thinking to switch over.
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Is it under setting -> general -> personalization -> language?

If it is theres only English,Francaise,Deutsch,Italian,Portuguese,spanish.
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:25 PM

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To me soldering it would be too far. No way to hack it eh?. Anyway what software did you use to capture the screen?
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 16 2008, 12:36 PM)
Freeware: Screenshot for Symbian OS
However, I found the Camera button to capture doesn't work.
Also, it can't capture the screen for Need for Speed - Pro Street (Symbian) using Camera, *+#, c (cancel) buttons.

You can try use cCam instead of default Nokia camera application. cCam feature "no shutter sound and no flash light" but still has the stupid red light.


Added on April 16, 2008, 12:38 pm

*ahem* already PM you. Those interested, please PM me.
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Nah so far no qualm of having the red light. I understand the nokia 's policy on this. While personal privacy violation is a serious matter, Corporate espionage is something that shouldn't treated lightly too. I've been in a company visit where they ask us to either handover the phone or turn it off all time during the visit. Theres a lot of sensitive schematics , diagram , codes or even a piece of paper that can be captured with any handphone (especially our n82 la laugh.gif )
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post Apr 16 2008, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Fearless @ Apr 16 2008, 03:12 PM)
Professional spies do not use cheap gadgets like N82, they use 007 styled hidden camera.  rclxub.gif 

If Nokia competitors can come out similar camere phones without that nonsense red light. I think my next phone definitely not from Nokia.
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Hollywood aside, i think a realistic corporate espionage scenario would be some developer grunts who did not satisfy with current company and decide to payback laugh.gif so they most likely to use your normal everyday tools such as camera phone.


As for the red light. If you would find one than most likely it will come from china or some chapalang kind. All the major players will comply with the current regulations as they definitely do not want to hang their head to be sued due to not following current regulations / standards.

Heres an article that has expressed concern on cameraphones

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1000000...39174085,00.htm

a quite old article but it serves as an example of the level public awareness; even tho 2004 the best camera phone would be something like 1.3mp-2.0mp?

I have no problem with that as it does not actually compromise with the end result (to a certain level)

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my battered old palm

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some client or blush.gif

As you can see the result is pretty much good (its set to close up mode without flash) so i dont have too much issue with it.
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post Apr 17 2008, 11:54 AM

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What laws or regulations in Malaysia to ask manufacturers installing the red light? Can you enlighten me on this legal aspect?
Don't constraint yourself in the bound of Malaysia. Heck if anything Malaysia would be the last one to implement / enforce it. I myself not a student of law but i do attend ethics and law class during my studies.Heres another interesting article about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_phone#Laws

Such places include the Pentagon, federal and state courts (see, for instance, [10]), museums, theaters, and local fitness clubs. Schools have banned them over the concern that they could be used to take images of notes that can be used in order to cheat on exams. One country, Saudi Arabia, in April 2004, banned the sale of camera phones nationwide for a time before reallowing their sale in December 2004 (although pilgrims on the Hajj were allowed to bring in camera phones). In South Korea and Japan, all camera phones sold in the country must make a clearly audible sound whenever a picture is taken: These laws are intended to reduce the number of up-skirt photos taken. In Singapore, camera phones are banned at companies or facilities that have an association with national security. In Europe, some BDSM conventions and play parties ban cellphones altogether to prevent camera phone abuse.

damn. they even got a BDSM conventions laugh.gif

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I got a Samsung phone last October,  no such nonsense reg light in their phones.

Consumer's freedom of choice is more important, not those companies worry that their secrets may got steal with our handphones.

Who are buying phones from manufacturers? Who pays Nokia? We consumers or companies?  Nokia want to be moral police? Sorry, they will not get my money anymore.
As i mentioned earlier, The public awareness about the use of Camera phone is rising with the newer,better quality cameras so enjoy your samsung phone. That probably the last of the few that actually was built not for international market.

Here are few links about it
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,117035-page,1/article.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law
http://www.cameraphonereport.com/2003/11/n...k_legislat.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,117035-page,1/article.html
http://weekendamerica.publicradio.org/prog...the_camera.html

Well the issue about privacy concerns did actually come from the public itself hence the corporation obligated to it (in order to penetrate more international markets) based on the awareness trend. Thats why our firmware (the apac version) Does not come with the ability to silent the shutter sound while the europe ones can. This is because probably the regulations over there just only need a flashing red light as a sign of picture being snapped.

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My trained eye can spot reddish color at the edge of your picture.  drool.gif  That is unacceptable for semi-pro users.
As i posted before , the tolerance to the quality is different between professions / standards. Me being a regular-joes when it comes to photography level of quality already impressed when the texts /lousy handwriting can be read visibly. A semi-pro user like you definitely have a better quality camera with set of image editing tools ya?

QUOTE(Fearless @ Apr 17 2008, 07:25 AM)
I used to have an infra red camera bought from Russian sailor, that kind of camera is good to sneak bohsia in action, not N82.  thumbup.gif
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Mind sell it to me drool.gif heh. Jokes aside the public perception to camera / video cams is totally different than camera phones. Lets face it. This whole hoopla just come from the few pervs who are really messed up.

...as they enable surreptitious photography. A user may pretend to be simply talking on the phone or browsing the internet, drawing no suspicion, and be able to photograph a person or place illegally or against that person's wishes.

Google around and read it. You will see the level of awareness of the public. Curse the stereotypical asian guy who loves to snap lengluis picture laugh.gif
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post Apr 17 2008, 05:51 PM

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Heh i think we've derailed too much from the topic laugh.gif To me it is what it is. Maybe we have to open a new thread to discuss about it.
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:23 PM

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lol guys. chill. This was started when im discussing about the quality camera / moral issue with Fearless. Think its time to tone it down a little but eh?
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QUOTE(senzaki89 @ Apr 18 2008, 11:25 AM)
shyt!  doh.gif
i just update my n82 firmware. bt when i switch it on,this message appear " Phone start-up failed. Contact the retailer."

when i update my hp for the 1st time,the hp stil run normaly,bt there is no chinese language..
so i changed the product code using nemesis nokia service suite..
then i re-update the firmware again.. then finally end up like this..  sad.gif
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whoa..

Did you check first the product code that you've entered does actually have an update (or its it correct in the first place?)

http://europe.nokia.com/appmanager/UnitedS...rp-windowState=
Use that link in future to check the new product code does exists and have the latest update.

Update us on how to recover it ya. It is an expensive 1.5k brick if you cant revive it sweat.gif
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post Apr 24 2008, 11:18 PM

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eh no one want to create a new thread ka? senpai go open one la. Later this one closed habis la sweat.gif
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post Apr 25 2008, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Apr 25 2008, 01:06 PM)
No duplicate thread is allowed...why are you so eager to open new thread?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif 
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Dont know about the thread policy in this subforum. But other places once hit 2500++ post need to open new thread.
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post Apr 25 2008, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Apr 25 2008, 05:35 PM)
w00t finally i got my black n82 .. wow the video and pictures are superb . kalah sony punye laugh.gif
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lol i think you're the first one who got the black version. Congrats on that.

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