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post Feb 3 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(gigohlo @ Feb 3 2008, 10:14 PM)
eh.. one question.. i jus recently discovered that i cant access my mem card thru data transfer mode.. keep saying its being used by another application. any ideas?
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Try exit all background program....If no background program then try to restart the phone.
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QUOTE(cheeleong @ Feb 3 2008, 09:49 PM)
Hi guys..

Sadly.. I returned my N82 (with some stuck/hot pixels; only 4 days old without any phone call made) to the hand phone shop in Low Yatt. They agreed to exchange with new N82 once they got stock; yet they keep telling me no stock. They also mentioned after CNY they can't exchange already and I must claim warranty. Made me so no mood to this baby.

I felt like being cheated... but it's my fault as well.. never really checked for dead pixels when i bought the phone. Heck.. it is really hard to check when most of the store are bright!

I was thinking of getting N95 8GB from them since they no stock for N82, so i tested the N95 8GB carefully and checked for dead pixels this time. Guess what? There is also 2 dead pixels on the N95 8GB screen!!!  In the end, I agreed to trade in my N82 for them and rugi 100 bucks sad.gif Most probably they are going to sell off my phone to some customers that didn't notice few little pixels. Oh well, i think this is what we call business eh? Earn twice from 1 phone.. from me and the next customer..  mad.gif

For the best way to check for dead pixels, create a 320*240 JPEG filled with Black color with MS Paint and save it in your old phone and transfer this pic using bluetooth to the new phone and check with it. (if you have a bluetooth phone)

CNY coming already.. i suggest you guys stop buying phone. No stock and the current stock might not be in good condition. The price is sky high as well..

Hope my sad experience helps...
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I'm seriously worried that Nokia got really bad batch of LCD screen recently. During the launch of N95 8GB I never heard people complain about bad pixels on LCD, and then N82, hearing quite some people said they got bad pixel LCD screen here and over hardwarezone.

On the other hand it's worth to check out hot pixels in your sensor as well although it's not that important. For example my N95 8GB has 2 green hot pixel (one being brighter than the other) on every photo of ISO-800 on the upper left corner. Doesn't bug me as I rarely take night photos and for 5MP pictures they'll even gone even when resize to 3MP size (however they'll probably NOT disappear when you trying to print them on paper).

There's one user at hardwarezone that eventually live with 1 stuck pixel on LCD and 2 white stuck pixel on camera sensor... rclxub.gif
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post Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(mstr583 @ Feb 3 2008, 10:47 PM)
Try exit all background program....If no background program then try to restart the phone.
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did all that already.. restart phone many times adi.. anymore ideas? icon_question.gif


EDIT: aiks.. can adi dry.gif i realise tht my ram was at 86.4mb when it shud b 90++ when there are no other apps running at the background. Funny.. why earlier i reboot it still remained at 80++mb?

This post has been edited by gigohlo: Feb 4 2008, 12:13 AM
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post Feb 3 2008, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(supazta @ Feb 3 2008, 09:31 PM)
the restarting issue was informed to me by the shop.
i placed a deposit for the second batch which he said to have fixed the problem.
sadly the second batch didnt make it before CNY so that dude called me and explained the situation.
he was an honest seller and he even returned my deposit willingly.
im just waiting for his call to tell me that the second batch has arrived.

so im waiting super patiently for the second batch with the hope that this restarting/auto  shutdown issue being fixed.

and yeah, maybe im gona wait for the white version as well just to compare which one looks better in real life.
black takes too long if i decided to wait no?
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Wow, care to share which shop is that? really good shop i must say.

Other shop will just sell it, make a profit and later let u deal with the AP company yourself.

Now my phone is worst, lag like s***. And cant even see pictures in my memory card : (

Going back to the shop tomorrow, hope they can give me a new set... eventhough i know its kindda hard
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QUOTE(piku @ Feb 3 2008, 11:54 PM)
Wow, care to share which shop is that? really good shop i must say.

Other shop will just sell it, make a profit and later let u deal with the AP company yourself.

Now my phone is worst, lag like s***. And cant even see pictures in my memory card : (

Going back to the shop tomorrow, hope they can give me a new set... eventhough i know its kindda hard
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its in tesco shah alam.
yea.
i reasoned if i were to be him, its possible that i'll simply sell the first troublesome set so i can get lotsa cash for my CNY.
new set?
sorry to say but seriously dont count on it.
they'll give excuse ie. CNY = no stock or maybe u'll have to leave ur phone at the shop until they fix it.
most shop are gona be closed until 15th feb.
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post Feb 4 2008, 12:45 AM

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Actually if you think in the seller point of view, if somebody buy a phone from you then after 4 days return to you and want to change a new set, first thing comes to mind that there's risk to take back the phone like the phone dropped once or simply just kena water or battery exchanged or something, whatever the excuse from the buyer. Because seller won't take the risk to get rid of stock with minor blemishes which is very troublesome as buyers today are more alert than yesteryears.

In the LCD world stuck pixel is very common so there aren't any definite policies due to the nature of design. So the only thing can be done is to check kao kao upon purchase...However more than 3 pixel is already very serious for only 320x240 resolution, CheeLeong maybe you should have claim the warranty but only if yours is authorized set not AP...
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QUOTE(pigcat @ Feb 4 2008, 12:45 AM)
Actually if you think in the seller point of view, if somebody buy a phone from you then after 4 days return to you and want to change a new set, first thing comes to mind that there's risk to take back the phone like the phone dropped once or simply just kena water or battery exchanged or something, whatever the excuse from the buyer. Because seller won't take the risk to get rid of stock with minor blemishes which is very troublesome as buyers today are more alert than yesteryears.

In the LCD world stuck pixel is very common so there aren't any definite policies due to the nature of design. So the only thing can be done is to check kao kao upon purchase...However more than 3 pixel is already very serious for only 320x240 resolution, CheeLeong maybe you should have claim the warranty but only if yours is authorized set not AP...
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Yea... you're right. I did put myself in their situation. Actually they can just tell me to claim warranty and they can stop "layan" me. But they didn't.. they still layan me and tried to get new phone for me to exchange. They kept telling me no stock and i'm not sure how genuine is that.

I was so fed up in waiting and they suggested me to keep the phone and claim for warranty after CNY.

Pigcat.. according to you.. "maybe you should have claim the warranty but only if yours is authorized set not AP..." meaning i can't claim for LCD warranty for AP set?

If you're right, I'm so lucky to trade in this phone and rugi 100 bucks rather than more problem happens in the future like cannot claim warranty and need to charge me this and that.... rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by cheeleong: Feb 4 2008, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(cheeleong @ Feb 4 2008, 09:30 AM)
Yea... you're right. I did put myself in their situation. Actually they can just tell me to claim warranty and they can stop "layan" me. But they didn't.. they still layan me and tried to get new phone for me to exchange. They kept telling me no stock and i'm not sure how genuine is that.

I was so fed up in waiting and they suggested me to keep the phone and claim for warranty after CNY.

Pigcat.. according to you.. "maybe you should have claim the warranty but only if yours is authorized set not AP..." meaning i can't claim for LCD warranty for AP set?

If you're right, I'm so lucky to trade in this phone and rugi 100 bucks rather than more problem happens in the future like cannot claim warranty and need to charge me this and that....  rclxub.gif
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Apparently yours is AP set, although I don't have any experience about claiming LCD warranty with AP company but I can imagine unless the LCD is broken or not functioning or else AP won't give a damn anyway. Dunno lah since you've traded your phone with just RM100 rugi I don't think there's any worse than normal people who lost A LOT for trading phones like that even the set is new.

As I've mentioned you can try to download the PSP Hot Pixel Fix video and run for like an hour and see... hmm.gif
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Since dis phone is 3.5G phone...may i know wat is the difference of 3.5G and 3G leh? Please kindly advice...thx!
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post Feb 4 2008, 01:38 PM

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hmm..looks like the LCD pixel problem is getting serious..yeah better check properly before buying an ap set~
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QUOTE(QiQio @ Feb 4 2008, 01:11 PM)
Since dis phone is 3.5G phone...may i know wat is the difference of 3.5G and 3G leh? Please kindly advice...thx!
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3G (UMTS) - 386 kb/s theoretically speed
3.5G (HSDPA) - 3.6Mb/s theoretically speed

You can check the Maxis or Celcom for their 3G services and coverage. icon_idea.gif
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Actually, in my opinion, the buyer should also have the courtesy to do QC on the AP sets that they receive.

Cause at the end of the day, we will blame the shop if the HP has defects rather than blame the AP company.

Just send my N82 back to the shop, they will try to update version and replace a new memory card for me... hope everything goes well
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QUOTE(piku @ Feb 4 2008, 03:35 PM)
Actually, in my opinion, the buyer should also have the courtesy to do QC on the AP sets that they receive.

Cause at the end of the day, we will blame the shop if the HP has defects rather than blame the AP company.

Just send my N82 back to the shop, they will try to update version and replace a new memory card for me... hope everything goes well
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Waa sounds like a lot AP sets are not working properly shocking.gif So far havent discover any on mine yet (hopefull none!). sweat.gif

True like piku said, the phone shops should check it b4 re-selling it to customers. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(piku @ Feb 4 2008, 03:35 PM)
Actually, in my opinion, the buyer should also have the courtesy to do QC on the AP sets that they receive.

Cause at the end of the day, we will blame the shop if the HP has defects rather than blame the AP company.

Just send my N82 back to the shop, they will try to update version and replace a new memory card for me... hope everything goes well
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Worth noting that the dealer told me AP company will do extra QC and testing before sending them out for shops. However it's quite an hassle to return the product to supplier oversea and I'm sure the supplier won't accept such returns as the order is usually in bulk and they're imported (which, go through so many steps). It's Nokia who's responsibility for the defects/blemishes and they're the one who have to serve you, so with many bad pixels like that definitely claiming warranty from Nokia is the only way. That said, the problem that it's an AP and definitely NCC won't give a damn. Of course, bad pixels not consider a "defect", so if something else not functioning you still have a right to claim for a new replacement.

Also sometimes bad pixels will develop even on a perfectly healthy LCD (although I haven't heard/saw one, yet). So it could be the bad pixels developed after the QC and probably due to poor quality material used for certain batch.

In the end it still depends on luck. We're paying less than authorized set mah (which enough to change a brand new LCD and still got leftovers) so what do we expect?

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QUOTE(pigcat @ Feb 4 2008, 12:20 PM)
Apparently yours is AP set, although I don't have any experience about claiming LCD warranty with AP company but I can imagine unless the LCD is broken or not functioning or else AP won't give a damn anyway. Dunno lah since you've traded your phone with just RM100 rugi I don't think there's any worse than normal people who lost A LOT for trading phones like that even the set is new.

As I've mentioned you can try to download the PSP Hot Pixel Fix video and run for like an hour and see... hmm.gif
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Yea.. i did try out few of them on the net.. none of them worked.

Oh well... like you said... it's still depends on luck sometimes... experiences of buying new phone counts as well.

Stop buying new handset now!!! CNY coming... it's very dangerous to buy new product when the stock is less.. percentage of defected phone also higher shakehead.gif
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I manage to find out the best price for N82 original, only at RM1688.
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QUOTE(chtan @ Feb 4 2008, 04:56 PM)
I manage to find out the best price for N82 original, only at RM1688.
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Original at RM1688 u must be kidding me, looks more like an AP price. Also it's not the lowest rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(chtan @ Feb 4 2008, 04:56 PM)
I manage to find out the best price for N82 original, only at RM1688.
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post Feb 4 2008, 05:54 PM

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