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foofoosasa
post Sep 8 2011, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Jun 12 2011, 10:56 PM)
Question: If you hold a stock with 6% dividend yield, at what FD rate (%) will you consider cashing out your stock and put into FD?
Eg: 8% FD interest rate.
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I would say the first thing to look is earning per share growth rates versus dividend growth rates per share. Provided the earning is backed up by good free cash flow enough to cover the dividend.
The second I would say depends on the payout ratio of the company.if the payout ratio is almost 100%,this company almost behave like a bond,what the company earned..they return almost all to investor all and left no much cash for future development... Unless you expect the company's earning per share increase sufficiently every year (which is less likely), so FD is much more preferable due to more safer.

I have another question here, which dividend company do you expect will give the highest return in terms of capital gain & dividend rates return in the next 5 to 10 years?I am still searching a company which such characteristic in KLSE (good in capital gain + dividend rates). icon_question.gif just give any opinion... biggrin.gif

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post Apr 11 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(apple1188 @ Apr 11 2012, 04:08 PM)
By Tim Kelly and Yoko Kubota

TOKYO | Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:10am EST

(Reuters) - Japan's Panasonic Corp warned of a record annual $10.2 billion net loss, joining beleaguered rivals Sony and Sharp in a sea of red ink as they struggle to fix their broken TV businesses and show they have not lost their way.

Panasonic's forecast loss of 780 billion yen ($10.24 billion) for the year to March dwarfed expectations, and is almost all due to restructuring charges and writedowns for its Sanyo Electric unit.

At a press briefing in Tokyo on Friday, Panasonic President Fumio Ohtsubo apologized for the unprecedented loss. "I feel the responsibility for the huge amount," he said.

He gave no sign, however, that he would step aside to let someone else try to revamp the sprawling consumer electronics giant, as Sony's boss Howard Stringer has done.

Sony on Thursday pressed its reset button after warning of a bigger-than-expected annual loss, announcing that Kazuo Hirai will take over from Stringer as CEO in April, triggering an 8 percent jump in its share price on Friday, its biggest one-day percentage gain in almost a year.

"We will accelerate our profit structure reform and make sure we achieve a V-shaped performance improvement in the next business year," Ohtsubo told reporters instead.

Together, Panasonic, Sony and Sharp Corp expect to lose $17 billion this year, highlighting the savaging of Japan's electronics industry by foreign rivals led by South Korea's Samsung Electronics, weak demand and a strong yen.

With TVs becoming smart - linked to other devices like tablets and smartphones - an inability by Panasonic to win in the TV market risks hobbling sales across their wider consumer electronics line-up.

Panasonic trimmed its forecast for the number of flat-screen TVs it will sell by 1 million to 18 million sets.

"They don't seem like a company that's progressing towards a particular goal," said Yuuki Sakurai, CEO and president of Fukoku Capital, which managed assets worth $7.6 billion as of last March.

"What exactly is this company good at? What does it want to do? They don't have answers to these questions."

Panasonic, which is in the process of shedding 17,000 jobs by end-March, also missed third-quarter market forecasts, diving to a loss of 197.6 billion yen from a profit a year earlier, much of the damage coming from the TV business.

TV HERE TO STAY

Ohtsubo dismissed any suggestion he will ditch the TV business.

"I don't think it's a business that has lost its growth potential," he said. Panasonic, he explained, wanted to "develop TV in a different manner" by exploring growth in sales to businesses, such as high-quality monitors for hospitals, rather than direct to more fickle retail consumers.

Yet, even with expansion into niche markets, the living-room market still dominates and the near-term outlook for TV sales is grim.

By 2015, annual global sales of liquid crystal TVs will contract by 8 percent to $92 billion, forecasts flat panel industry research company DisplaySearch. Worse still, plasma sets, a market that Panasonic dominates, will shrink 38 percent to $7 billion.

If Panasonic's market share "keeps shrinking by 10 percent or so, they may need to prepare some more restructuring," said Shiro Mikoshiba, analyst at Nomura Holdings in Tokyo.

Moody's Investors Service downgraded the debt ratings of Panasonic and Sony last month and retained a negative outlook for both, citing their continued TV losses.

SANYO WRITE DOWN

It's not only TVs, though, that pose a risk to profits and are keeping investors away from Panasonic shares, say analysts.

Panasonic shares initially fell on Friday, extending a slide to their lowest in more than 30 years, but later rallied to close 1.2 percent higher ahead of the quarterly results, likely helped in part by the jump in Sony shares.

Punching a big hole in Panasonic's finances, and adding to 514 billion yen in restructuring costs, is a 250 billion yen goodwill writedown from the 2009 acquisition of rival Sanyo, bought as part of a strategy to focus more on business-to-business markets such as auto components and green technologies.

If that business performs poorly, analysts say there could be a need for a bigger write-off.

"On its balance sheet, Sanyo's goodwill comes to 900 billion yen. That's really, really big and we know the situation of the battery business is really, really terrible," Nomura's Mikoshiba said before the earnings release.

"Panasonic's previous record net loss in 2001/02 was because of the impact of a sudden slump in PCs after the IT bubble burst, but there was hope then for growth in flat-screen TVs," said Hideyuki Suzuki, general manager for investment research at SBI Securities.

"This time, and not just for Panasonic, it doesn't feel like they've got rid of all the rot."

Ohtsubo said he had no regrets over buying Sanyo. The acquisition, he insisted, "provided clarity about the future course of Panasonic."

SILVER LININGS

"One silver lining is that there is investment being made for the future," said Hiroyuki Fukunaga, CEO of Investrust.

"You could take the added restructuring costs as a serious move by the company to reform and improve its business. You could look at this as the bottom, to show all the losses and then move aggressively towards the next quarter," he said.

Panasonic does expect to make an operating profit - which excludes one off items such as restructuring charges - though this is now seen at just 30 billion yen, down from a previous 130 billion yen. Last year, Panasonic logged an operating profit of 305 billion yen.

Ohtsubo took up much of his earnings presentation talking about the company's most profitable parts: its refrigerators, washing machines and other household appliances, which increased quarterly operating profit by more than 8 percent to 26 billion yen, with an operating margin of 8 percent.

Next year, Ohtsubo promised more products to attract global consumers, including shavers, massage chairs and the more traditional kitchen appliances - as well as other goods ranging from bicycle pumps, fax machines and light bulbs to nose hair trimmers and lighted toilet seats.

($1=76.15 yen)

(Additional reporting by Taiga Uranaka, Daiki Iga and Yoko Kubota in TOKYO; Editing by Mark Bendeich, Edmund Klamann and Ian Geoghegan)

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post Mar 6 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 6 2014, 02:44 PM)
JTINTER diskaun mode now hmm.gif
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Cheap meh ? hmm.gif
What is the yield now?
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:10 AM)
see JTI open at what price brows.gif

7.70 liao drool.gif
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congrats rclxms.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:15 AM)
Now...hold or dump now? tongue.gif

If EPF fight for higher hmm.gif
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if it is me dump blush.gif...still depends on you la,
I dunno your financial status etc... so my opinion might not apply to you at all. smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:21 AM)
u don't think EPF can/will fight for higher? biggrin.gif

Ok, dumped. Dump at 7.67 way higher than any analysts' TP sweat.gif

Now, move the $$$ where leh hmm.gif
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The price actually I think is very attractive ( for me la).
This stock itself actually already priced at quite premium already, plus this "bonus" offer, so for me no need think twice already.

move to your other dividend stocks ? brows.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:34 AM)
Now, gimme your recommendation...top up which one? tongue.gif

If u ask me, I'm thinking IGBREIT or Maybank hmm.gif
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for me , REITS should be not bad ( not to say very good bargain ).

I also consider to acquire one more reits, now holding CMMT only. See see first when can get better deal

I haven't done much research on Maybank, so cannot give you any opinion.
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:40 AM)
Actually IGBREIT is a dummies choice...

JTI based on the price I dumped...7.67, average dividend yield AT BEST is only 5.6%. And IGBREIT is yielding 5.6% now with relatively lower risk tongue.gif
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so why not laugh.gif , wait a bit slightly lower?
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:44 AM)
Maybank got better growth potential but riskier unsure.gif

IGBREIT more or less gonna be stagnant...FD stock esp if price gonna go lower yawn.gif

If look at yield alone...Magnum...6.6% tongue.gif
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maybe consider some growth stock brows.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 1 2014, 09:50 AM)
I think the only growth stocks in my portfolio are APM and Scientex.

APM is more or less fully valued I think.

Scientex...dare not put too much sweat.gif
Til today (after about 2 weeks of purchase) I haven't studied its financials on my own, rely on ANALysts and Unker gark's rekomendasi only tongue.gif
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Your reserve fund ( for stock ) vs your current portfolio ratio?

have your consider just put in FD?

haha must study a bit la...I always purchase liao then study one laugh.gif

if dont want headache then IGBreits lo. sweat.gif

 

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