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 High Dividend Counters, Better than putting in FD

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kinweng81
post May 19 2008, 02:57 PM

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Thank for the advise...

Can I say the best way to quit dividend counter, is when the time close to the ex-date?

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post May 19 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(kinweng81 @ May 19 2008, 02:57 PM)
Thank for the advise...

Can I say the best way to quit dividend counter, is when the time close to the ex-date?
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No point. You lose dividend if you sell your counter b4 ex-date. After ex-date it's re-adjusted.
The market is quite efficient, there's no way you can make extra-ordinary gain brows.gif brows.gif

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post May 19 2008, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(kinweng81 @ May 19 2008, 02:57 PM)
Thank for the advise...

Can I say the best way to quit dividend counter, is when the time close to the ex-date?
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Again and again (as so many posts regarding the dividend from your posts on asking to speculate buy/sell after or before ex-dividend).

There is no way to gain from the point of before or after ex-dividend for short term trade, so better spend the time thinking of other things else.
Before or after ex difference can be negligible most of the times.

Dividend play is meant for long term holding one.

Cheers. smile.gif
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post May 19 2008, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 19 2008, 01:43 PM)
I do think JTinter is a bit toppish at the moment after recent run of the announcement of special dividend. Having said that its high dividend policy will sustain the stock around 4 in the near term as FD rate won't go higher than 3.7% at least for this 1-2 years time. Normally, this kind of stock won't go up nor go down much one.

Dividend stock is highly depends on economy situation (more precise is individual company business) and interest rate environment.

Apollo is also a dividend stock but its low liquidity make it harder to judge or determine.
Often no trade at all for the whole day.

Just my personal opinion. biggrin.gif
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Thank you cherroy.
Ya, I know APOLLO has very low liquidity, so it could mean a good thing too right, as its movement will be quite stable. Just the last 2 trading days saw its price gone a little wild (wonder what happened wink.gif).
For me, APOLLO is also a good bet for long term dividend play, just that I don't know how good is its business sustainability, as I personally do not eat Apollo confectionery tongue.gif
I think the upcoming Budget would see cigarette import duty being increased again, and with the rising cost of production, JTINTER would see another round of lower profit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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post May 19 2008, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ May 19 2008, 06:03 PM)
Thank you cherroy.
Ya, I know APOLLO has very low liquidity, so it could mean a good thing too right, as its movement will be quite stable. Just the last 2 trading days saw its price gone a little wild (wonder what happened wink.gif).
For me, APOLLO is also a good bet for long term dividend play, just that I don't know how good is its business sustainability, as I personally do not eat Apollo confectionery tongue.gif
I think the upcoming Budget would see cigarette import duty being increased again, and with the rising cost of production, JTINTER would see another round of lower profit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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The main disadvatange of low liquidity is when you have many in it then it is hard to dispose the shares without depress the share price.

Buyers will queue far away as they knew you are keen to dispose. In those low liquidity stock, only a few interested players are around.
So a few up to hundreds lots no problem for retailers but more than around 500 hundred or thousand lots onwards one, then one will fund difficulty to dispose.

Look at its trend of its sales, then you will know how popularity of the Apollo confectionery. I don't know also, interest to find out also. smile.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 19 2008, 08:51 PM)
The main disadvatange of low liquidity is when you have many in it then it is hard to dispose the shares without depress the share price.

Buyers will queue far away as they knew you are keen to dispose. In those low liquidity stock, only a few interested players are around.
So a few up to hundreds lots no problem for retailers but more than around 500 hundred or thousand lots onwards one, then one will fund difficulty to dispose.

Look at its trend of its sales, then you will know how popularity of the Apollo confectionery. I don't know also, interest to find out also.  smile.gif
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I have seen their growth from their annual report. Seems like their ROE are growing over the last 4 years.
Just not sure what would happen in the future though. Looks like they are venturing into another industry out of the confectionary business. Would have to consider the rising cost of raw materials and production too. Food especially is rising at very worrying pace wink.gif
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post May 21 2008, 11:25 PM

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apollo has a good track record, own majority by singaporean.
most of us have eaten apollo 's chocolate wafer as a kid.
remember the red shining rectangular packet.
if u plan to hold a company for long disregard the trade volume.
now apollo exports mostly to indon.

personally for high dividend yield stocks i'll stick to
ornasteel and accoustech
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post May 22 2008, 12:58 AM

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ok,a quick newbie question...the dividens paid is banked into the account or is it sent to you by check?
and oh...generally, is it possible for high dividens counter like apollo and bjtoto can outpreform (give higher % returns) compared to unit trust (public mutuals) as in like 5-7 years of investment time?
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post May 22 2008, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(dxlethal86 @ May 22 2008, 12:58 AM)
ok,a quick newbie question...the dividens paid is banked into the account or is it sent to you by check?
and oh...generally, is it possible for high dividens counter like apollo and bjtoto can outpreform (give higher % returns) compared to unit trust (public mutuals) as in like 5-7 years of investment time?
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mine is posted to my house, by cheque.

so far the highest dividend yield % i have seen is 11%, try checking out JTINTER.
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post May 22 2008, 07:09 AM

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if u have a nominee acct then its bank in and for direct acct you'll get a cheque.
you lose on commission when u buy unit trust.
B4 u start oredi lose 6-7%
wait for low cost unit trust , Tune Money is starting. (tony fernandez)
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thanks for the answer guys..btw, another quick questions..which one more risky in your opinion?..playing REITS, Dividens or Unit Trust for long term investment?
erm, is there any "minimum investment time" to get the dividens? or you just have to buy the stock before the ex-date?
just to confirm :
First & Final 5¢ = means if i got 1000 units i get rm50 before tax?


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QUOTE(dxlethal86 @ May 23 2008, 02:01 PM)
thanks for the answer guys..btw, another quick questions..which one more risky in your opinion?..playing REITS, Dividens or Unit Trust for long term investment?
erm, is there any "minimum investment time" to get the dividens? or you just have to buy the stock before the ex-date?
just to confirm :
First & Final 5¢ = means if i got 1000 units i get rm50 before tax?
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Can't say which one is more risky in your choice given. They are differ in their risk in nature. Can't compare apple with orange.

Reit - basically you are owning the property while getting the rental

Dividend stock - Invest in company that give consistent dividend throughout years.

UT - invest in a pool of money that hire fund managers to invest according to the managers wish that according to the trustee objective or fund objective.

Buy prior before the stock give dividend won't bring you much gain/profit because share price generally creep out before it is giving out dividend, while share price being deducted for its dividend given after its ex.

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YuNGSeNG
post May 29 2008, 10:25 PM

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Can anyone tell me BJTOTO & Maybulk 1 year pay how many times dividen ? In what month they will paid ? Thanks


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post Jun 2 2008, 04:25 PM

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Hi all,

I am newbie here.. Any idea when is the IOI dividend payout for each year..? Is it by end of June?

I am planning to invest in this counter..Any advices?

Note: As at today, the price is 7.25... A price drop of 20cents..


Thanks.. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 2 2008, 11:13 PM

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Hi,
i go for CCB,if i am not wrong they pay very very high dividend 2 yrs back.
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QUOTE(Larrylow @ Jun 8 2008, 10:10 PM)
Is there anyone here is having BAT stocks?
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you do? or intending to buy?
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Panamy giving another RM1 dividend. Ex-date 3/9/2008.

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