Can some one advise me on below questions???


1. DiGi declared a dividend of 75 cents, but I checked in Bursa Malaysia web page, it didn't stated which the payment / lodge date.


2. I have done a basic calculation

By taking yesterday closing price for BAT at 45.40 and DiGi at 21.80....if the same amount of money e.g. RM20,000 invested into both counters....., total units hold for BAT = 440.53 and DiGi = 917.43 (let's assume we can hold by fraction of shares).....

Then with DiGi recent 75 cents dividends payment, one would get 917.43 shares x 0.75 = RM688 as dividend of holding DiGi

If the same amount of RM688 were to pay to BAT holders, so for a total units hold for BAT of 440.53 shares, the dividends need to be paid by BAT would be at RM1.56.....


So in summary

Paying RM20k of Digi hold 917.43 shares, and with 75 cents dividends, get RM688
Paying RM20k of BAT hold 440.53 shares, and with 156 cents dividends, get RM688


If DiGi, projected to pay 180 cents dividend in a year, below is the summary

Paying RM20k of Digi hold 917.43 shares, and with 180 cents dividends, get RM1651
Paying RM20k of BAT hold 440.53 shares, and with 375 cents dividends, get RM1651


Thus BAT need to payout RM3.75 as dividend in order to equal to Digi payout of RM1.80

However, based on past many years, BAT normally paying less than RM3.00....

Conclusion:

It means that DIGI is a good buy compare to BAT, if DiGi projected to payout RM1.80 dividends...



Am I right ?????

oh ...actually my calculation intends to find out 75 cents of dividend payout by DIGI would equal to how much dividends payout by BAT... probably i have running a big round to find out


btw...anyone hold Amway shares...how is their biz like / dividend records ???

ya...wonder where is this 55 cents... ?

so long never write something in this thread.........

bat...after declaring 61 cents dividends and already passed the ex-date...and share price tumbling as long as 42.xx......
and yet...possible factors are believed to be the decision of phasing out 14 packs in mid of next year and as well projection of TIV to be shrunk further.....

for Digi, after ex-date of the recent 75 cents dividend, it stands still at 21.20....but do not believe this is the resistance....

so for bat and digi, we need patient and only patient we can rely on............... as the biz for consumer sectior is always deteriorate when come to consumers confident

as when economy in downturn, cost rising, earning power shrinks, then we said spending will be getting lower and as a result...consumer factors will be the first thing to get hammer.....

believe it or not, i would say that 80% people will start selling when come to all these bad sentiments....and including myself who mind and will are not so strong and persistent...

but yet...what made us believe that these counters will rise again.............probably when it rise up to 10%...... people start mumbling and saying aiyah....why didn't buying or holding....it...

so only .....................time will tell.............................., haha i start mumbling already...

based on my writing...most likely i will have both counters... but between Digi and BAT, which one is the GEMS...still depend on individual interpretation.....
both are in different biz segment....and Digi... is consider the third favorite or third famous telecommunication stocks....and BAT...for its well known cigarette brands....



another thing is the youngsters brands marketed by Phillip Morris not listed here.... or else, many will chase after that.......................................................

Yes just like recently financial meltdown, most of the market plunged during last year March time frame, and guess what all counters going south including all the blue chips ..... and whoever grab it that time will get a handsome gain.................

for tobacco industry, you can said it is a sunset or probably over matured biz....the main factors contributed to it such as illicit cigaratte is trending up, heavy tax imposed almost every years, some scary pictures, soon to face out 14-sticks packaging............ thus resulted contraction in overall market demand...........................................

i have been tracking the dividends for years...and also getting some of the dividends and below are some info

1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Turnover 1,964.0 1,947.0 2,036.0 2,772.0 3,010.0 3,073.0 3,199.0 3,236.7 3,564.2 3,612.5 3,830.0 4,135.0 3,923.0
Profit 483.0 629.0 380.0 506.0 607.7 662.9 758.2 782.1 592.8 719.7 731.0 811.0 746.0
EPS 169.0 220.0 133.0 177.2 212.8 232.2 265.5 273.9 207.6 252.0 256.3 284.3 261.5
Net DPS 154.0 155.0 100.8 170.0 245.4 216.0 310.0 248.4 250.1 254.0 256.5 265.0 236.0




1. Over the 1997 to 2009, average dividends at 220.1 cents and total payout of 28.61
2. Revenue going up trends due to price increase, even though demand is going down


Digi.............recently seeing and up trend in dividends... 54 cents on the way will be expired on 4-Mar-2010

Yesterday and Today Sin Chew Jit Poh have articles on high dividend stocks that giving > RM1.00 and also listed out all company that giving dividend yield from 8% to 194%

I believe that the only way to categorize a good high dividend stocks, it must meet below criterias

1. Dividend must be sustain or growth every year.

2. Dividend must be paid by company consistently for the past 10 years, 15 years or more.

3. Dividend paid out must be coming from the profits from core business. Not coming from selling of others assets.

4. Dividend paid out must not be coming from debts or loans.

5. Dividend yield at least 2 folds of current FD rate.

..................... Thus with above criterias, i wonder what the good counters are............

BAT going to announce the financial for last quarter today check from their web page... so
is there any dividend ...? .............................................................................................................................

It is a special dividend, after that I don't think got any excitement

Some reading on dividend stuff:


a) If a company is not paying a dividend, with Efficient Market Theory, the company is going to pay a dividend eventually, so the price of its share reflects these future terms

b) If a company never going to pay dividend, why would people want to invest into it?

c) It is common for a young company not to pay dividends.

d) The value of company is associated with its activities, and if the company never pay a dividend, why would you care about what they are doing.

e) You care about company activities, as some how, the company going to pay you dividend.

Only if you sell them, then you get the money, else still in paper

, the point is when to sell it..... and if you were to sell it, then when u going to buy back again, as the company continue not to pay dividend, the share price still going up...


unless you hold it forever, and yet one day you still need to sell it to get the gain...... or one day the company start to give dividend, then you can get some money back in your pocket.... else still on paper....

Let's take Genting, it should be categorized under established company,then why they give only peanut dividend......

If Genting start to pay good dividend, i am sure, the price will gone up crazy

correct me if i am wrong ....as nowadays very hard to find good dividend company

US Stocks should be more efficient market , as stocks price go roller coaster .easily

NOK, FSLR have been dipping so much

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Added on June 14, 2012, 6:02 amUS Stocks should be more efficient market , as stocks price go roller coaster .easily

NOK, FSLR have been dipping so much

This post has been edited by Kamen Rider: Jun 14 2012, 06:02 AM

Any good dividend counter, please share .... as lately want to catch something....

Are they paying consistent dividend at 7% to 8% for years (5, years, 10 years)? or they just occasionally paying only ??

Thank you very much.... look like i miss the boat for sapian, luxchem and panamy.....

i kill the goose.........too early..... as at this price, seems like overprice

so waiting to get back my goose ....

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Added on June 28, 2012, 11:33 ambat so far as i know that never split.... but looking at current price, the % of div yield probably around 4.5% to 5%...

wonder why so strong this counter

This post has been edited by Kamen Rider: Jun 28 2012, 11:33 AM

this will be interesting threads...as dividend is the play now ....after few days bloodbath in market tumbling

could any expert explain why Maxis able to continue to pay 8 cents 5 times per year, from its EPS or from leveraging ....

How much they can borrow ? as it has been paying 40 cents for several years ...
Digi vs Maxis which could be the one

nowadays very hard to get stock which can give 10% dividend consistently without a miss...