Goldfries can do the spanking XDDDD We don't mind (as long as you are spanking us XD) Fell free to spanks the shemales XDDD

Just woke up and a pleasant surprise! Not really pleasant surprise,i reckon in forums like this,good folks will sure reply on such issues.

I-should-not-take-internet-seriously comment
Hah, yes i know a lot of people might think i'm over-reacted or something. I cannot deny since there's this shadow in my past and i'm very sensitive to such issues but it's not like i care what's going on in the internet.If i really do,i'm already handfull spamming over all the forums.What i notice here is,like some girls have just said in previous post,i'm over-reacted by the polls which are being spammed by desperate males(possibly).It's just amazing how these people are that free to spam,that's it.

Judging from whatFlizzardo says,i'm afraid that she's taking the polls seriously and atcually think that more than half of the women think sex is a must in relationship and that it's better to have sex without condom on.I kinda get the feeling that she's just merely saying,but just hope that she's not some disguised male.

Happy to hear that there's a lot of good response here,especially Goldfries,someone very well known in LYN and are supposed to be not quite involved in girl's club.Your word is very powerful,and thanks for supporting me,i'm so so happy haha. Okay,see,it' just that i appreciate all the males who are actually acting positive on this issue and are willing to discuss and make sure the image of every guy's a desperate cyber-sex -seeker will go away.Over exaggerated,i know.

And some girls here actually sums up what i say,thanks a lot,i guess without reading my 1st post you understand urself. And i think more girls to actually come up and say is somewhat helpful as they tell what the males think.So that they won't think by posting such comments will get them anywhere.

Nickthemost : Okay,i'll just be honest with you.You said i was flamming on guys and i'm not very happy because i really wasn't.See,i'm in love with Goldfries already .Something happened in my childhood,okay i don't wanna hear ppl saying i'm trying to get attention, and i get very sensitive on this issues.I didn't think i'm mature enough and that's why i wanted ppl to debate on this.And i'm 100% female,it'd be too good to be true if a male would actually stand up against desperate males.Why did you even say i have anything against males?Did you read my 1st post,like,all the words?
In short,i was just upset by those monkeys who's trying to corrupt the minds here,all sorts of ppl lurk around here and God knows 1 or 2 kids actually thought that it's normal for girls to have sex without his partner having condom on.So unless you are that monkey ,you are completely out of my radar.And i'm sure you are out,right?

Hmm... i think i forgot what i'm suppposed to say.And then ummm i guess,well,talking about sex is definitely okay,things should be a bit liberal over the net especially where are in Muslim country,sex is a taboo to be brought up openly in public.But Yukirin might has his very good reasons to stand up for his beliefs too(i'm actually quite surprised why a male like you are against on discussing such topics in internet...i'm just curious,since it's not a taboo at all over the net).In my opinion,it's okay to have serious sex talk but i realized the people here bring up meaningless topics.I'm sorry to say this,i see a lot of topics which i assumed are started by grade schooler,and they really need to brush up their English.I definitely have no place to say that,cause,haha,i went to chinese independent high school so mandarin is actually my primary language and there's still a need of improvement on my English.

Gotta go get my brunch first.

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 02:55 PM

Dear TS,

I understand your concern in girls being influenced by these polls. When I first read it, my first impression was that whoever who was silly enough to base their decisions on these polls will probably do silly things anyway.

But then I thought about it again and you raise a good point. There are some young teens out there, new to relationships and what to expect and if the only thing they have to go about are these polls, they'll probably think that perhaps unprotected sex is the norm in relationships and although they may not like it, they think 'this is part and parcel of being in a relationship'.

Guys have needs yes. I for one know that. There's this belief that Love conquers all or something of that sort. Perhaps that is the case. I was with my ex for two years and did not have sex with her cause she had a bad experience with her previous one. I understood that and didn't pressure her. But did I feel frustrated? Yes of course I did and I told her. She said she couldn't do it and I understood. We broke up over other reasons but that's another story.

Despite saying this, I am still of the belief that girls should only have sex if they also want to and not cause it's 'expected' of them. I have many good female friends who get themselves into shitty relationships and sex lives cause they think sex is a chore meant to please the guy. As a result, they abhor sex and see it as a boring activity and never really get into it. I think that's quite a sad state which stems from the fact that they had sex first when they didn't want to.

I guess the key point I want to make to women out there is:

a) Be honest with your boyfriend and make sure he understands what you are comfortable with.

b) Do not give in and say 'guys have needs' and just have sex with him because of that. You'll find that in the long run you won't enjoy sex and sex is about sharing not just a 'chore'. I cared enough to abstain from it for a reasonably long time.

c) But at the same time do not be offended if your boyfriend asks if you're ready. All of us guys want it, but that doesn't mean they can't wait for a while till you're ready. In fact, if you deny them (especially for a long period of time) and they still treat you nicely, that's a good sign that they truly care about you. However guys have their needs, if there's really a difference in sexual needs, you need to take that into account if you are seeking a long term relationship.

d) Sometimes a couple's sexual needs are really different. Then it's time to evaluate where you think it would be a problem in the relationship. Remember that if you are considering getting married to this guy, this is the sort of sexual drive you have to put with and frankly after time, it's going to drive a guy nuts and increases the chance of they finding other avenues to meet their needs. Are you willing to meet these needs? Call me an arse or what not but simple truth is that guys can only think with their penis or brain. It was tough for me and although I didn't cheat on my gf, I had constant thoughts about having sex with other people when I didn't get it for 2 years. I denied it but it felt horrible that my mind was cheating on her and so I told her about it and she was mature enough to take it and understand my position. We still didn't do it after that but it helps to know that your partner understands and find other ways to make each other happy. nice foreplay is a good start. more huggies more attention to each other.

e) Don't be stupid about unprotected sex That's a really selfish thing for a guy to do just for his pleasure. The risks are enormous for just a guy's pleasure.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone. Just voicing my opinion on the matter. It may sound contradictory but what I'm saying in a nutshell is that guys should be able to wait for a while so don't be pressured into it but be aware that they do have needs and if you think that there will be a problem in libido you should address this from the start and be honest about it and find ways to work within the boundaries you are comfortable with.


Sex should be something to be enjoyed and shared, not something to be given as bait or a carrot to keep a guy happy.

This post has been edited by Reuben: Dec 21 2007, 03:01 PM

What is the point of this thread anyway?

And my personal experience, LYN rules are not perfect..
They allow stupid comments in some rather "serious" sex related thread and suspend me for 3days for posting a porn link in a rubbish-meant-for-joke-aka-retard thread.

don't make me feel horny dirty please. thank you.



ahh. from my perspective, this thread is a lot more valuable compared to many other threads here.

it's finally a discussion on Girl's Club itself. perhaps it's a thread that could lead to Girl's Club's improvement.

Very well said,you should highlight your first and second para.Probably girls don't have as much needs as the guys do,it's not like i don't understand it completely at all,it's all your in-built hormones you can't help it.But always remember,getting your gf's body is not your right,but it's only your privilege.Also,even in marital rape,the husband is subject to charges.

Hey umm... to answer that question of yours,i'd say to create awareness i guess?If you are thinking i'm naive that no one who care such little pointless thread i'm just gonna answer you again by saying at least i tried and will always do.I guess Mods couldn't just delete comments cause not only they are being bombarded by internet liberty issues ,no one would ever comment anymore. As that porn link of yours, i think it's very common that porn links are banned you see,even in overseas forum,so don't let that get you if you took that seriously.You should have posted rubbish comments on that meant-for-joke thread instead.


Thanks.

Nah, it was just for fun...luckily i was quite busy during that day
Anyway, i dont agree to pre-marital sex

I don't agree to premarital sex either. I think, and I mean I, that women who sleep with their men for fear of losing them to other women need to settle their self-esteem issues before going into a relationship.

fey, I think your work pressure is getting over you Have a coffee break will ya.



Frankly speaking, SEX related topic/talk/thread in forum ain't taboo but more like Dens of Hungry Wolf waiting for bunch of naive little Red Ridding Hood walking into their mouth. I seen enough to believe how true this facts can be. Whenever I walk out to the street, I always amazed how corrupted the teens' mind can be. As a matter of fact I even felt sorry for them. But then, when we related the root cause of those thinking, one word appear, internet.

Internet is a double edge sword. When you gain some benefits, you will also loss some as well. You learn a lot when browsing for info and reference. But, when bad reference was made use widely, teens' mind/thinking are corrupted.
What happen when they are corrupted ? Simple, human devil side began to overwhelm the angel side. Conclude, hurting other people feeling, being unconditionally rebellious, unreasonable reasoning, WORST CASE SCENARIO, CRIMES EVERY WHERE.




Not every single guys can think like you do. It's good to be honest to your other-half/soul mate but never ever to be inconsiderate on each other well being.

Seriously, I think you missed the point. Read the LYN Global Rule, any sexual related link are not to be linked anywhere in LYN. So getting a "vacation" from above is not a surprise. Again, since when INTERNET RULES are perfect ? Name me one. To me, internet is where every thing is possible, not limits, no boundary, only the "walls" that are your only obstacle that needed to overcome. Isn't it right ?


Edit: Changing all the L33t words to normal word. I've been scold by goldfries(pointed the post below) for writing too much L33t word Ok, I'll be a good boy and stop using L33t words.(Vaccine taken for destroying the L33t)

This post has been edited by Yukirin: Dec 21 2007, 04:24 PM

Hehe. we're at a time where

1. COCK refers the male genitalia instead of male chicken.
2. PUSSY refers to the female genitalia instead of a slang for a cat.
3. DICK refers the male genitalia instead of a name

amazing how twisted are minds these days.

and judging by how forummers posts, it's as if mentioning SEX was so terrible they had to write it as s3x or 53>< or something. even PENIS is quite often spelled as P3N15 or something.

this shows how "altered" are the minds of people these days. it's as if mentioning these things are wrong or taboo or what not.

EDITED : guys, if you need to mention PENIS during a discussion. just do it. if you think you're going to get banned or warned just for doing so, you need a shrink.

why? disguising the word won't help you. more important is the context on how it's used.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 21 2007, 04:12 PM

I don't get it.

Why is sex such a big deal in Malaysia?

Even sex scene is censored in 300 but non of the violence was censored.

It really depicts that having sex is not OK compared to chopping people head off and stabbing people to death.

What a load of crap?

If its 18SX or 18PG, sex scene should not be censored.

If you wanna have sex, do it safely and please enjoy it. Wonder why girls here think that having sex is like the end of the world type of situation.

yeah. well thought of that long time ago.

kiss more than 2 seconds - censor! 18sx!

guns blazing, blood splashing, parang wielding - U . hahah. what a joke.

seriously, sex do less harm than violence.

The point why girl doesn't want it as bad as guys it is because they sexual desire is 20x times less than the guy's sexual desire.

Girls derived more pleasure from having sex than guys, this is a scientific fact and when they want sex, they want it really bad too.

Frankly, when people talking about sex here is as if they have no prior sex education at all, especially girls. Don't know why, I can have a more meaningful conversation with Aussie girls about sex than I can ever have with any girl in Malaysia.

Peace out.

You may be right bout that scientific evidence proven thingy there but not every girls enjoy sex that much,alot,but not every.A lot of cases are where guys seem to seek only free sex from the gf in that relationship.But of course ,a lot of couples enjoy it a lot too,given that they have healthy sex life.

What do you mean by lotsa girls here have no prior sex education? I don't normally post here cause a lot of topics started by the girls here are simply immature. And not only girls,same applies to the guys,i do prefer talking to Western males bout sex related issues rather than those from Asia.Asian guys always always boost about how they made their gf cum like 3598423590642390 times,they are self centered,really! And what is sick is that during the intercourse they love asking those questions and they have to know this,if the girl really loves ur skill they'll tell you. White people are often more liberal and because of that they are not so narrow minded ,yes they are horny but not desperate.

Actually i'm not quite what you are trying to point here.Would appreciate if you'd elaborate further.

Not necessarily true..
Pre-marital sex is worst than killing ppl...atleast that's wat i was taught

In my opinion, narrow minded girls should understand that the pleasure of sex is not just for the male but for the female too.

If a guy wants to have sex with his gf, that is normal and in fact should be the case. Instead of him running around with one night stand / flings while going out with his gf or he masturbate at home watching pron non stop.

Fact is, some of my girl friends here says that their bf have no desire to have sex with them. That's really something quite stupid to say.

Also I don't think girls end up giving in to sex. Sex is supposed to something good, fun and healthy for both party and the relationship. NOT A THING TO BE TRADE AROUND.

It shouldn't be the case whereby, you should do this or get me this so and so before we ever have sex.

you're talking morality or what?

if morality sense, pre-marital sex is fine for some but violence (cut, slash, harm) is not fine by all.......except some minority i guess.

bottom line is. pre-marital sex doesn't harm anyone. it's an activity between 2 individuals. violence on the other hand while being activity between 2 people, actually causes physical damage and may even result in death.

well anyway i'm not going to debate on sexual activity vs violence. let's stick to the thread at hand.

This is what I was ranting about in regards to Malaysia girls.

Good lord, aren't we supposed to be more open minded these days?

I wonder how we'll ever make to a first world country when we can't even satisfy our own sex life.

Man, as far as everybody is concern we are still in a stone age man, especially when it comes to sex.

I really duno what should we talk about...

Pre-marital sex to me, its forbidden. But for you its not.
Its based on alot of points or path or wats the correct terminology...

And with this rate in LYN, im sure alot of youngster will think sex is just anything but nothing precious.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 5:24 pmIt was only meant for married couple, as given and commanded by the Good Lord.

What's to open minded about that?
Rules are rules, and i learnt that for 3days vacation for posting crap in a crap thread.

Why worry about sex whilst there's damm lot of stuffs that one should be worrying about?
U wont die without sex. no?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Dec 21 2007, 05:24 PM

ok. now you're judging me. FYI I'm against pre-marital sex myself. I'm just saying it still causes less harm than violence. get it?

btw this thread is gonna be filled with what we've talked about so far............