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post Dec 22 2007, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(sancakAhNgau @ Dec 22 2007, 09:48 PM)
A few months ago, i lost my credit card and it was fraudently used by 3rd party amounted to RM3.5K.
These cilaka used my card to buy beer at Carrefour. But i wasn't aware i lost it until the bank called me to confirm the transaction
which i denied on the spot. The bank put my case as a lost card so i need to bear the cost but somehow they gave me 60% discount on that figure.
And until now i have already paid RM 1K to settle the disputed amount.
Anyway i hope to put this incident past behind me as i have moved but today this news came up , haiya....
Anybody out there got the same experience??? I still owe the bank abt RM400 on the disputed amount, should i use this acticle and dispute again?


Saturday December 22, 2007
Most unaware of RM250 limited liability

CARDHOLDERS need not pay more than RM250 whenever their lost or stolen credit cards are used by others. Yet, oftentimes, they end up paying much more.

This is because Bank Negara has not informed cardholders that they do not have to pay more than RM250 for fraudulent transactions carried out using their lost or stolen cards, when they had not acted fraudulently and had informed the banks about the lost or stolen cards as soon as possible.

This protection is given under Clause 13.2 of Bank Negara's Credit Card Guideline ("The cardholder's maximum liability for unauthorised transactions as a consequence of a lost or stolen credit card shall be confined to a limit specified by the issuer of credit cards, which shall not exceed RM250 provided the cardholder has not acted fraudulently or has not failed to inform the issuer of credit cards as soon as reasonably practicable after having found that his credit card is lost or stolen").

Banks know about Clause 13.2 but have chosen to ignore it. Instead they pursue cardholders for the fraudulent transactions.

They will tell cardholders that a clause in the credit card contracts states that all transactions carried out before the loss of the cards are reported to the banks, are deemed to be carried out by the cardholders. 

Many cardholders then pay up because they are unaware of the RM250 limited liability.

Bank Negara should rule that: 

ˇTHE RM250 maximum liability on fraudulent transactions is highlighted to cardholders in the card agreements as well as in the monthly card statements.

ˇBANKS are not allowed to insert any clause in the card agreement which is contrary to Clause 13.2.

ˇBANKS should refund all money in excess of the RM250 collected from cardholders whose cases clearly come under Clause 13.2.

S.M. MOHAMED IDRIS,
President,
Consumers Association of Penang
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was wondering... what if we fraud ourselves and report? then we ended up paying only RM250...
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post Dec 24 2007, 02:32 PM

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Anyone knows whether if there is any expiry date/time for Maybank Treat Points?
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post Dec 24 2007, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Dec 24 2007, 02:34 PM)
got expiry date meh?
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Not sure... asking for confirmation...
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post Dec 24 2007, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Dec 24 2007, 02:36 PM)
hmm...
i didnt; get the concept right...  sweat.gif

so, as normal person, we do not need to subcribe this service right?
the description state in the leaflet seem very interesting...
and i don't know the benefits and how it's work for this service

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Added on December 24, 2007, 2:40 pm
according to my parent, yes, it does has expiry for your treat points...
i think they will notify you thru mail...  hmm.gif
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if this is the case, in how many years is the expiry circle?
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post Dec 24 2007, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 24 2007, 04:03 PM)
if I'm not mistaken...different banks have different expiry date for their points. Which bank are you referring to?
well, it is a worry...among others. Solution is to not have too much debt. Or if you want, just subscribe to the Credit Shield feature. Its not that expensive...if your debt is low tongue.gif
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post Dec 25 2007, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 25 2007, 10:21 PM)
I thot Robinson's OCBC is Visa Platinum ?
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Yea, you are right... targeting those spending a lot at Robinson & Marks&Spenser...
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post Dec 30 2007, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Dec 30 2007, 11:54 AM)
I dont think GSC staff knows how to use the VisaWave thingy...
Everytime i pay also i give the card to them and they insert into the terminal tongue.gif
If i own OCBC Titanium, i dont really care about these promotion hehehe
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FYI, Titanium card offered by OCBC is not the same grade as Platinium cards. The requirement to own a Titanium is lower than Platinium.
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post Dec 31 2007, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 31 2007, 02:53 PM)
ok guys, i need some sincere recommendations. Haven owned a credit card yet. I'm looking for a suitable card, i wont be using much in a month, mostly on petrol & insurance which is around rm400 the most.

I'm targetting on the no annual free, Citibank Choice, Maybank FLEX and UOB VOX. any cards amongst these or other recommendations that have good rebates/promo?
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Voting MBB Flex... just need to swipe your card 2 times a month and the monthly fee is waived...

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Dec 31 2007, 02:58 PM)
UOB Vox is more suitable for clubbers..

If u have local bank account, better get from the same bank atleast easier to view statement and repayment.

Citibank Choice only 2 years free then have to pay annual fees.

I suggest Maybank for convenience or UOB for cash rebate

http://www.moneysection.com/index.php
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Choice is free for life...
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post Dec 31 2007, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 31 2007, 03:14 PM)
guanteik, but the Flex, u need to swipe at least RM300 a month rite? else RM3.95 will be charged.

Ok  so the same applies to Choice rite? juz swipe twice a month or there's a minimum limit to avoid charges?
how bout OCBC Titanium?
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just swipe 2 times, not RM300 where it was used to be... they revised the fee waiver criteria.

Titanium is created just for the sake of the card's name... just like a Platinium card, Gold card.. etc.. I have personally came to know that some Gold CC only gives u a few thousand of credit limit, just like normal Classic cards but they have the advantage of charging you the annual fees at a high rate. Well, you pay, you get the 'name'.

This post has been edited by guanteik: Dec 31 2007, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 2 2008, 11:49 AM)
Ok guys after doin some readups on those Free Annual Fee cards, i've decided to go with Maybank FLEX. I've got some quieries
1.is it Visa/Master?
2.is it entitled to those TreatPoints too? and does the points have expiry?
3.And also, does petrol refuelling applies to the RM1=1 treatpoints?
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1. VISA only
2. Yea, RM1=1TP.
3. Caltex will give 3X TP during it's promotion, not too sure about now (without promotion)
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post Jan 4 2008, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jan 4 2008, 02:13 AM)
Maybank Treatpoints do not expire, even if the account is closed.
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Great... this is a definate answer for my question asked a few weeks ago...
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post Jan 7 2008, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 7 2008, 12:26 AM)
is anyone here happy with Maybank Credit Cards? I'm not...I find other cards better...RHB, HSBC, Citibank...in fact, I just applied for RHB card today.
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what is the reason behind?
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post Jan 7 2008, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 7 2008, 09:27 AM)
Did I say that I got two Visa from MBB? Did I say that I'm doing any conversion?

Currently I got MBB Visa and I'm applying MBB AMEX.
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what makes you interested in applying MBB AMEX since you have already a VISA?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 7 2008, 02:59 PM)
For MBB, AMEX offers double TP and there's points collection for petrol transaction. A good deal since my MBB Visa is my primary CC.
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last time i thought like you do... the 2XTP. BTW, imagine you apply for AMEX, u need to pay for the annual fee of RM60... if your TP from AMEX & VISA does not have enough for annual waiver, it's no difference with or without the AMEX.
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 7 2008, 04:30 PM)
yes, double or not...the annual fee for Amex kinda kills the benefits of the points. Btw, isn't the annual fee for Amex higher than RM60? According to their website...its minimum RM140 per year. http://www.maybank2u.com.my/site_functions...l?amexcharge#a2

and question 4 says Amex has no free waiver...
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David83 is talking about MBB AMEX...
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 7 2008, 07:42 PM)
eh...then what's that RM140 charge for?
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it's for AMEX charge card, not MBB AMEX.
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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Jan 8 2008, 08:49 PM)
hi good people,

i have PB visa Classic.. I already submitted an official letter (with my salary slip) to increase my credit limit. Can someone enlighten me the process? is it gonna go all over again like new applications? and how long they would take to accept or reject my request?

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Submit the credit increase application form with your slips, and just wait for their answer. Don't need to go through application like first how you did. Normally 1-2 weeks after they received your application they will inform you whether your account/limit is subjected to increase or rejected.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 14 2008, 09:00 AM)
After CIMB took over DA customer service, the quality went down. Few times my calls were unanswered.
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Maybank is no better anyway
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:11 PM

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Check out my reply...


hi guys... i don't know how to apply for credit card... and which one to apply as well... so i have come here to ask for some informations tongue.gif

if i'm a student can i apply for the card or not?? is there any credit card meant for students??
Yes, provided you must have some salary slips or use a Debit card
if i'm working, how much my salary has to be written on the pay slip then only i can apply, and my application will be approved??
Standard RM1500 per month
if i only want to use the credit card to do the shopping or maybe some online transaction, which credit card should i choose??
Mostly are OK
how about the annual fees??? can you guys tell me about it??
Try MBB Flex or CIMB DA
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post Jan 28 2008, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 28 2008, 05:58 PM)
I feel a little frusted as I would like to get an explaination on how Maybank derived the figures as advertised at the bank of their printed statement. Refer to the attachment below:

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What I would like to know, let's take RM 500 outstanding amount for retail purchase as an example.

From the table, it's said that you'll be only charged for RM 2.22 after make a minimum payment for a repayment period of 1 month. Using the usual 1.5% p.m. or 18% p.a. rate, for a RM 500 outstanding amount, it should give your RM 7.50. I have asked the bank staff and the CSE at the card centre. None of them could explain. Does Maybank is trying to cheat by advertising a misleading figures?

Anybody could enlighten me? Appreciate your knowledge. Thank you.
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I notice that too...

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