AMD/ATI R680 - Dual GPU Graphic Card, review - The return of the King
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 Jan 31 2008, 09:12 AM
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shoo shoo get the fc outta here and bring your NVIDIA-ism outta the dark side u fcer
  QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 10:22 PM) Hey guys... This post has been edited by skylinegtr34rule4life: Jan 31 2008, 09:16 AMGeForce 9600 game out already.... benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra nice... nVIDIA ROX !!!  |
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Jan 31 2008, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(ccm @ Jan 31 2008, 01:34 AM) hi..correct me if i am wrong Jeez it doesn't even matter. PCI-E 2.0 as of now only provides 1-3FPS performance difference from PCI-E 1.x.one thing unconfirm..this card supports pcie 2.0 and pcie x16.. but the bridge on the ( the bridge that connects two chips together on a PCB )card is only supports pcie x16 so even though if connect this card on a pcie2.0 board, it wont give u the benefits on pcie2.0.... read from a chinese site, if you put a pcie1.1 card on a pcie2.0 mobo, the performance will run better than the 1.1 one.. somehow rather if putting this card in a pcie2.0 mobo still can perform better than the pcie1.1..but it wont work on pcie2.0, it'd only recognized as pcie1.1 now the 3870x2 is 800/1800 or 825/1800 or 850/1800 by fan cooling.. read from fudzilla there is a water cooling coming on next week, one of those can hit over 900+/2000 source that tells this card will lose all the benefits from pcie2.0 http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5356&Itemid=1 |
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Jan 31 2008, 09:17 AM
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Looks like competition from AMD/ATI is heating up. Great to see some interesting stuff happening on AMD/ATI side. I never knew Radeon 3870x2 was in development.
Generally, I like AMD/ATI Radeon cards in terms of graphics, I used to own a Radeon 9800 Pro. How is the AMD/ATI drivers these days? After that I went for Nvidia 7 series and now Geforce 8800GT. Is this card considered high end like the Geforce 8800GTS and Geforce 8800GTX in terms of pricing? Graphic cards industry sure move too fast to follow. |
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Jan 31 2008, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 11:22 PM) Hey guys... oh my lol GeForce 9600 game out already.... benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra nice... nVIDIA ROX !!!  shuuuuu shuuuu  |
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Jan 31 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 10:22 PM) Hey guys... You see they are trying desperate move GeForce 9600 game out already.... benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra nice... nVIDIA ROX !!!  They got what they deserve anyway, the truth always come out, NV ADA S#@$**@ Point, it is only for those who know nothing with big pocket. Back to the topic please, no time for them.  Any Other shops in LYT have it????  |
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Jan 31 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Nocrimes @ Jan 31 2008, 09:53 AM) You see they are trying desperate move heard from senoir here that Loywat c-zone hav it, They got what they deserve anyway, the truth always come out, NV ADA S#@$**@ Point, it is only for those who know nothing with big pocket. Back to the topic please, no time for them. Any Other shops in LYT have it???? for RM1550... u wanna get 1?   |
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Jan 31 2008, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2008, 09:14 AM) Jeez it doesn't even matter. PCI-E 2.0 as of now only provides 1-3FPS performance difference from PCI-E 1.x. This is from what u read...good googling..  reality from those who tested it. pcie 2.0 spec can overclock higher and is independent from ure PCI/sata mhz... been running them at 120mhz.. for a long time... pcie sig 1.1 is not.. and will still be locked with sata/pci slots. and its around 3-5 percent on same clocks but get higher clocks later on. slightly especially on mem. fps increase is depending on 3 factors Reso ure running MB/GB ure GPU has Bus/Mem speed on Bandwidth.. This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 31 2008, 12:20 PM |
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Jan 31 2008, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2008, 09:14 AM) Jeez it doesn't even matter. PCI-E 2.0 as of now only provides 1-3FPS performance difference from PCI-E 1.x. a pcie2.0 card installed on a pcie1.1 and pcie 2.0 mobo, i think the different is definitely more than 1~3fps performance..but a pcie1.1 card installed on a pcie1.1 mobo and pcie2.0 mobo, this can be 1~3fps increase when u install on a pcie2 mobo.. |
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Jan 31 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(ccm @ Jan 31 2008, 12:07 PM) a pcie2.0 card installed on a pcie1.1 and pcie 2.0 mobo, i think the different is definitely more than 1~3fps performance.. dude the difference again is based on but a pcie1.1 card installed on a pcie1.1 mobo and pcie2.0 mobo, this can be 1~3fps increase when u install on a pcie2 mobo.. the three things above.. hence example joker A. with HD3850 256mb on maximus or foxconn p35 mars.. gaming at 1440x900.. no diff.. joker B with HD3870 512mb OCed Mems to 1250. on same boards above gaming at 1920x1200 .. mainly on "FPS games" which uses a lot of MB's on ure gpu to load all that background and environment. has up to 5 percent difference.. 1-3fps??.. what game .. 3fps more in crysis means 10 percent jump.. so use percentage. This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 31 2008, 12:24 PM |
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Jan 31 2008, 12:33 PM
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ya..i think the fps drive me confuse.. the percentage will be much easier to understand..thx
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Jan 31 2008, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 31 2008, 11:57 AM) This is from what u read...good googling.. Probably take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/cro...ress/page5.html reality from those who tested it. pcie 2.0 spec can overclock higher and is independent from ure PCI/sata mhz... been running them at 120mhz.. for a long time... pcie sig 1.1 is not.. and will still be locked with sata/pci slots. and its around 3-5 percent on same clocks but get higher clocks later on. slightly especially on mem. fps increase is depending on 3 factors Reso ure running MB/GB ure GPU has Bus/Mem speed on Bandwidth.. While Tomshardware charts are a little bit... skeptical, but the thing is what I'm trying to pin-point is that running on a X38 board/any board with PCI-E 2.0 doesn't really give much of a performance increase. I think I would have to rephrase that 1-3FPS performance increase is somewhat wrong, something within the point of 1%-3% increament in performance in most games is more precise. As you set, this will depend on what game but I'm simply taking the average here. True that later on graphic cards will take the full benifit of the double bandwidth on PCI-E 2.0, but right now, not yet. Not atleast enough to warrant a purchase for a X38 mobo or 780i if you aren't doing multi-GPU setups. |
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Jan 31 2008, 02:49 PM
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nt many games support crossfire yet and the 2nd GPU will nt b used if the game does nt support crossfire/the drivers are nt up to date,check guru3d.com 3870x2 is nt compatible with world in conflict.ATI need 2 improve their drivers.88GT SLI beats the crap outa 3870x2 even in crysis.
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Jan 31 2008, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2008, 02:43 PM) Probably take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/cro...ress/page5.html correcto mundo..While Tomshardware charts are a little bit... skeptical, but the thing is what I'm trying to pin-point is that running on a X38 board/any board with PCI-E 2.0 doesn't really give much of a performance increase. I think I would have to rephrase that 1-3FPS performance increase is somewhat wrong, something within the point of 1%-3% increament in performance in most games is more precise. As you set, this will depend on what game but I'm simply taking the average here. True that later on graphic cards will take the full benifit of the double bandwidth on PCI-E 2.0, but right now, not yet. Not atleast enough to warrant a purchase for a X38 mobo or 780i if you aren't doing multi-GPU setups. oh yeah and that review is inconclusive.. they should try higher bus on rams/ ddr3 higher speeds etc... willing to be there is a difference. as i had said 3 factors.. no single card solution takes up that bandwidth.. i am still figuring out .. does the latency between the two GPU of the HD3870x2 makes up for the slower GDDR3 compared to HD3870 Crossfire .. This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 31 2008, 04:14 PM |
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Jan 31 2008, 05:13 PM
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ur rite,faster bus and faster ram needs to be used to fully optimise the dual gpu configuration,meaning the 3870x2 power nt full unleashed if use phenom platform with hypertransport3 .But they should just make 2 cores on the gpu instead of making 2 gpu on 1 card just what 3dfx did b4 with their voodoo 5 up to 4 GPU on 1 card crazy!!!!!!,resulting more heat and power consumption.The power consumption of 3870x2 almost same as 2900XT bro its super duper power hungry card and if u c in the benchmark at lower resolution 3870x2 going through cpu bottleneck,showing that the bus speed is nt enough.
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Jan 31 2008, 08:07 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this card is a pcie 1.1 part. so far, only HIS misprinted the box cover with pcie 2.0. |
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Jan 31 2008, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(ATi_FANBOY @ Jan 31 2008, 08:07 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this card is a pcie 1.1 part. so far, only HIS misprinted the box cover with pcie 2.0.  |
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Feb 1 2008, 11:02 AM
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few day already still no llyn member buy this monster ???
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Feb 1 2008, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Feb 1 2008, 12:02 PM) few day already still no llyn member buy this monster ??? bcs performance of this monster card is dissapointing due to its DRIVERS havent mature |
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Feb 1 2008, 12:51 PM
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yeah..need to wait offical driver released and i am sure some of here will grab it.
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Feb 1 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Feb 1 2008, 11:02 AM) few day already still no llyn member buy this monster ??? monster need 2 drink more milk 2 grow up aka more stable drivers  |
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