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 Online Trading Vs. Remisier/Broker Trading, Discuss the Pros and Cons

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TSskiddtrader
post Dec 19 2007, 06:17 PM, updated 18y ago

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Here is an article in The Star worth reading regarding the costs difference between online vs remisier/broker trading.

Online Trading Vs. Remisier

Discuss the Pros and Cons of your preferred method of executing your buy/sell orders. Personally I like to call up my broker for a chat, since I don't trade in hundreds of thousands, the amount saved by the commission is negligible for me. But I experienced once that I wanted to execute an order fast but my broker's phone was busy. So I had to call another number and her colleague passed her the message for me.
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post Dec 20 2007, 11:19 AM

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Although the new minimum brokerage fee has increased to RM40, I do NOT think it is advisable to think that you HAVE to make a purchase of RM9K - RM10K above to get a fair brokerage of 0.42%.

For example;

YTLPOWR is now trading at RM2.50

At the current moment, if I wanted to buy it with the minimum brokerage fee of RM12

RM2.50 * 2000 shares = RM5000

RM5000 + 0.42% = RM5021

Now come January 2008,

YTLPOWR at same price and same amount of shares

RM2.50 * 2000 = RM5000

RM5000 + (0.42% or RM40 whichever is higher) = RM5040

Cost of purchase changed by + 0.378% or RM19.


Now let's say we follow the "We MUST BUY at least RM9.8K to get a FAIR brokerage fee."

RM2.50 * 4000 shares = RM10000

RM10000 + (0.42% or RM40 whichever is higher) = RM10042

Cost of purchase changed by +100% or RM5021.


In other words, you are shelling out more money or risking more of your capital for a mere savings of less than RM20 for the example above. Is it even wise to think like that? In my opinion, an increase of charges should be accepted as it is, using this method of increasing your purchase just to get a fair brokerage rate would just make the brokers more than happy to accept.

It's the same like saying I'm buying a Honda City VTec because the I get better milleage compared to a Proton Wira. But then you would have paid RM40K extra in advance for what you would normally take more than 5-10 years to achieve in costs savings in terms of fuel consumption.

So in conclusion, I advise everyone to trade like they normally do with an increase in trading costs in mind. Don't risk more to save less.

This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Dec 20 2007, 11:55 AM
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post Dec 21 2007, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 20 2007, 12:44 PM)
act d most hurt is those cheap stock...

let say muiind. now at 0.35

0.35x 10000x0.42=14.7~15
purchase price(not include clearin fees n etc) = 3515+15 = 3530
effective price = 0.353
next year,
.35x10000x0.42=min rm40
purchase price(not include clearin fees n etc) = 3540+40=3580
effective price = 0.358

cheap stock need increase 1cents jus for d sake of breakeven...

d point to argue is not how much to buy, its that, rm12 VS RM 40... increase of 4 times brokarage fees...

1st, no shortin  2nd, brokerage increase... this clearly r handicapped war..
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I think you calculated wrongly.

0.35 * 10000 = 3500

3500 + 0.42% = 3514.70 or average price of 0.3515 rounded up to 0.35 (0.005 is minimum)

New Price at Jan 2008

3500 + (0.42% or 40 whichever is higher) = 3540 or average price of 0.354 rounded up to 0.35 (0.005 is minimum)

Both require at least 1 pip or 0.005 to make a profit.

I agree it will hurt a lot of people trading in minimum lots especially dealing with penny stocks like HK-CW.

Difference of purchase price is RM25.30

This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Dec 21 2007, 02:19 PM
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post Dec 26 2007, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Dec 24 2007, 07:05 PM)
Those people who sell/buy 100 shares are a complete nuissance unless the value of the 100 share is more than 3K.

I suggest the concluding party only should pay the min brokerage fees if the share value traded is below min charge. If not, people trading in good faith will be hit by 100 shares jokers everyday
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I agree those nuissance 100 share last minute jokers who buy it at the last second of closing time to jack up the prices by 1 pip should be dealt with.
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post Dec 27 2007, 11:54 AM

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Currently,

online trading brokerage fee is 0.42%.

Remisier trading brokerage fee is 0.6%

Day trading is 0.15%

Is this correct?

 

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