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post Dec 18 2007, 05:43 AM, updated 18y ago

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Hi all, goin to get my City Vtec next month... And i heard that the sound system of the car sucks... Need u guys to recommend wat i should get and wat budget should i have to get a middle range audio set... Sorry for being a noob... Hope to get as much advice as possible...

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What to change or add???
What brand???
What is important for a good sound system???
What is the budget???

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QUOTE(emperor^10 @ Dec 18 2007, 05:43 AM)
Hi all, goin to get my City Vtec next month... And i heard that the sound system of the car sucks... Need u guys to recommend wat i should get and wat budget should i have to get a middle range audio set... Sorry for being a noob... Hope to get as much advice as possible...

For example,
What to change or add???
What brand???
What is important for a good sound system???
What is the budget???

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the bold part.... you should be telling us. whats is YOUR budget? how much u willing to spend?
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:14 PM

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Opps... I think my budget is around 1000-2000...
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:29 PM

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get a decent pair of component set + a 2 channel amp for the start with this budget...

later on then add in sub if u dun plan to change the HU
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:31 PM

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I have a City Vtec. The sound system seems okay to me .
Probably want to find something to add the bass, but the overall sound is not bad .
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Dec 18 2007, 12:31 PM)
I have a City Vtec. The sound system seems okay to me .
Probably want to find something to add the bass, but the overall sound is not bad .
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Wow... Really...??? This is different from wat i heard...

So wat do think we have to add for the car??? AMP and woofer???
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post Dec 18 2007, 03:17 PM

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Honda City is a good car to play SQ....
Don't waste it....HEHE!
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post Dec 18 2007, 04:08 PM

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Change your component 1st....get a decent component such as DynAudio, Focal or Vifa...upgrade it step by step.
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post Dec 18 2007, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Dec 18 2007, 04:08 PM)
Change your component 1st....get a decent component such as DynAudio, Focal or Vifa...upgrade it step by step.
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Wat is this??? sweat.gif Sorry for being noob...
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post Dec 18 2007, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Dec 18 2007, 04:08 PM)
Change your component 1st....get a decent component such as DynAudio, Focal or Vifa...upgrade it step by step.
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Dynaudio, Focal & Vifa decent?
Not so easy to make Dynaudio sing well...

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post Dec 21 2007, 07:56 AM

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waliu, starting already ask ppl to go for dynaudio focal and vifa? budget 1-2k only la....

bro emperor: i think the new city comes with integrated HU dy, unlike the previous model. So changing it might be abit hard/ expensive tongue.gif wait till ur car comes first, then u hear the sound. If ok ma no need change. smile.gif
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post Dec 21 2007, 08:44 AM

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The stock audio for City really not bad. But just not bad only.
After you listen to those car that got play ICE, sure you wanna change.
I also plan to upgrade my City ICE. Currently is the stock Kenwood HU.
Plan for 4 channel amp + component speaker > subwoofer > HU.
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post Dec 23 2007, 08:51 AM

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Just wanna know if the front door can fit 6.5" component? I have a city VTEC 2004 and wish to upgrade the sound system also. Currently thinking of Pioneer 6950 + Component (Alpine Type-S any good?). Will add a subwoofer later on w/amp also, only listens to alternative, soft rock and pop. Any suggestions?
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:34 AM

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i will not touch a brand new car electronics because it will void the car warranty

check out with the dealer
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post Dec 25 2007, 03:43 PM

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for city ride, the first thing u need to change is the tak boleh pakai HU......the stock HU is suckss.....the comps & other still okie performing....if u change all your comps....& play ur city stock HU....give me 2second, i will go down from the car....i experience in my friends city ride which he change to brand ADS comps & amps....& with stock HU....really wasted the entire system.....

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post Dec 25 2007, 05:12 PM

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Which batch of City you refering? Which HU? Intergrated one?
Mine Kenwood one quite ok...

Oh ya, I got the same question bout the front door can fit 6.5" component?
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post Dec 25 2007, 05:26 PM

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im not sure city got how many type...i think is the kenwood type..is grey type......my frens city is abt 2 years....i had audited 1 all stock & 1 change comps & amps....still the same outcome...is the HU problem....

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post Dec 25 2007, 05:38 PM

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2 years?... I think is the classic blaupunkt one.
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post Dec 25 2007, 06:33 PM

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hav you done a blind folded test? between a city with a stock HU and a city with a aftermarket high end HU?

try tht and see if it really make a huge difference... if you couldnt hear the difference then money is playing a fool out of you...

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post Dec 28 2007, 01:32 AM

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vtec, i'm not sure, but i'm using idsi, overall, sucks. haha..

if u wan cheap cheap ah.. get tweeter n put a sub loh, n equalizer loh.

if ada budjet change whole set loh.

player name kenwood. but nothing to play wit.. cheap hu.
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post Dec 28 2007, 09:00 AM

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craziechild, no need to be so keng to do blindfold test watever, city's HU sucks big time, even the one that is fitted with kenwood.
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post Dec 28 2007, 09:34 AM

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Base on your in taste la...
Own taste really subjective one....

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post Dec 28 2007, 10:12 AM

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well afaik... honda came up with some of the best stock standard SQ... but dun go on comparing with those OEM levinson... those are different league altogether...

so to me... only changing the HU doesnt make a really really huge difference...

do a blindfold test if you guys have time... i always play tht with my friends... it helps a lot to see that money always fool you...

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post Dec 28 2007, 01:48 PM

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Of course changing the HU itself not much diff using stock speakers.
Play more with a good amp, component speakers, subwofer, etc,...

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post Dec 29 2007, 02:25 AM

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no matter how ppl argue, ice is still a very subjective thing. so TS, wait til your car comes, and listen. if its ok for u, then be it tat way, save up your money. but if you feel itchy, try find someone wif city and aftermarket ice, and i can pretty sure guarantee u'l get poisoned. tongue.gif sadly, its not a good thing actually. laugh.gif

anyway, mayb for starting, get a 4-channel amp with a decent comp set. for less than Rm2k, u can really hook up a decent setup if the shop is good in tuning for your taste. and after awhile and u feel u need more, than opt for a monoblock wif subs. i guess that's enough for u.

and don need to ask for anythin else, i guarantee tat u will kno more sooner or later. tongue.gif for the moment, these r enough di.

GL wif your ice journey bro!
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post Dec 29 2007, 10:31 PM

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Haha... okok... But i just wanna add some bass to the sound and have a clearer sound in the musics...
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(emperor^10 @ Dec 29 2007, 10:31 PM)
Haha... okok... But i just wanna add some bass to the sound and have a clearer sound in the musics...
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Like that change HU doesn't help much...
Change front component, add amp and add sub. thumbup.gif
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guys,

getting my ct soon, despite the stock integrated HU, what can I upgrade with a bidget of RM2500? any recommendations? preferably with brands and models....

thank you
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post Dec 31 2007, 04:04 AM

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yes you can... jus add a JL Clean Sweep... then some amps depending on your applications and front components and also subs...

cheeers....
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post Jan 2 2008, 11:26 PM

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ima noob starter pack.
planning to upgrade my city also.. playing wit my ori kenwood HU XD

PG65, 4 channel amps, and 10" sub.

budjet don wan higer than 1.5k

Wat u guys think? i apa lagu also listen.
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QUOTE(notorius @ Jan 2 2008, 11:26 PM)
ima noob starter pack.
planning to upgrade my city also.. playing wit my ori kenwood HU XD

PG65, 4 channel amps, and 10" sub.

budjet don wan higer than 1.5k

Wat u guys think? i apa lagu also listen.
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ya.. all flying horsy.. haha..

will equalizer do any good?

my ori kenwood can adjust treble mid bass n bass.

can use tat?
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QUOTE(notorius @ Jan 3 2008, 07:55 AM)
ya.. all flying horsy.. haha..

will equalizer do any good?

my ori kenwood can adjust treble mid bass n bass.

can use tat?
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Ori HU EQ can be use but can't give a best performance.
But not to use few band eq with cap ayam brand....If really want go to performance EQ, you can go for 15bands or higher 30 band..
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woh... ok ok will take note bout tat.. i hardly got frens who plays ice here.. i think i'll go try a few person's ice first. blindfolded? hehe..
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my city vtec is expected to arrive this month also... i am hving headache because dunno how to replace the integrated HU...guess i'll just have to wait for someone to create the after market replacement for 1-DIN HU panel...

at the mean time, if you wanna change the HU only...in my opinion it won't make much difference cause the sound limitation is most probably coming from the speaker...

so for a RM2k budget... so happen my friend recently install his system, i can recommend a pertors component set costing around RM850 and then you can get a clarity amp, 4ch, for around RM650... the balance u can still use for sub so you will have a decent basic setup consist of comp set + sub + 4ch amp...


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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 3 2008, 08:48 PM)
my city vtec is expected to arrive this month also... i am hving headache because dunno how to replace the integrated HU...guess i'll just have to wait for someone to create the after market replacement for 1-DIN HU panel...

at the mean time, if you wanna change the HU only...in my opinion it won't make much difference cause the sound limitation is most probably coming from the speaker...

so for a RM2k budget... so happen my friend recently install his system, i can recommend a pertors component set costing around RM850 and then you can get a clarity amp, 4ch, for around RM650... the balance u can still use for sub so you will have a decent basic setup consist of comp set + sub + 4ch amp...
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The HU is not integrated la, can be changed easily as what i have done. The default player is damn lousy, change it 100% can get better sound. I am currently waiting for my Pioneer 6950IB from howiechoo to take over my beloved 3 years old Pioneer 4550 wub.gif
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post Jan 3 2008, 10:18 PM

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bliz, the new city comes with integrated HU. Unlike the 2007 model..
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post Jan 3 2008, 10:21 PM

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I found out tht u can change the integrated system from Honda... just ask ur SA...
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can.. vtec intergrated only ma.. mine idsl comes with kenwood.
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Jan 3 2008, 10:18 PM)
bliz, the new city comes with integrated HU. Unlike the 2007 model..
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Oh sorry didn't know that cos i saw my friend's 2007 VTEC still got the same mounting as my 2004 VTEC city
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i ask Penang SA they say cannot...

may i know more details? on how to change? do u buy from acc shop outside?
or get the replacement from sA?

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I found out tht u can change the integrated system from Honda... just ask ur SA...
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I also dunno la... but saw it in Teamcity website... There is someone saying it can be changed...
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post Jan 22 2008, 12:42 PM

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don worry so much, juz wait for your car to come and c whether the hu is integrated or not. but if i were u, with budget of around 2k or 2.5k, i wont go for hu tat fast lor.

a decent picasso comp + lil wonder 4-way comp + monobloc + MTX sub.

actually, if u kno an audio shop well, u can also tell the boss your budget is 2k, and tell him u wan a good system within tat budget, exclude hu. of coz, tat shop should be reputable, don simply find 1 and let them chop u. test the audited system for a week, and if not satisfied, go back and tell them to change another again.
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So anybody mod their 08 city??? Do give some comment... Thanks...
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post Feb 17 2008, 05:19 PM

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go for good front component set eg focal n bass mid speaker for rear.also 1 unit 12 sub n higly recomanded 5 channel amp
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aih...
stil the same.
get 1 x component spkr set (2tweeter+2midbass)
get 1 x 10" sub box
get 1 x multichannel amp

jz a decent Honda City nia ...
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post Feb 28 2008, 04:05 PM

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Here's my ICE history done to my Honda Jazz.

1. Change HU - Gain like 30% more power + clarity
2. Add component speakers - Gain another 50% of sound quality
3. Sound proof 4 doors -Eliminate external noise, Gain better bass and clarity by 30%
4. Add Rear 2 way speakers - well, just to replace the crappy original mids by honda, now my back passenger also can rock like me laugh.gif
5. Amp - Finally added a 2-way amp to my component, did face and sound stage tuning. sound is clear, warm vocal, satisfying bass.

now i'm satisfy, atleast the setup will last me for 2-3 years. o btw, no subs yet as i think the current bass is right to my ears, anymore thumping bass will spoil my listening pleasure.

$$ spent < then 5k.
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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Feb 28 2008, 04:05 PM)
Here's my ICE history done to my Honda Jazz.

1. Change HU - Gain like 30% more power + clarity
2. Add component speakers - Gain another 50% of sound quality
3. Sound proof 4 doors -Eliminate external noise, Gain better bass and clarity by 30%
4. Add Rear 2 way speakers - well, just to replace the crappy original mids by honda, now my back passenger also can rock like me laugh.gif
5. Amp - Finally added a 2-way amp to my component, did face and sound stage tuning. sound is clear, warm vocal, satisfying bass.

now i'm satisfy, atleast the setup will last me for 2-3 years. o btw, no subs yet as i think the current bass is right to my ears, anymore thumping bass will spoil my listening pleasure. 

$$ spent < then 5k.
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5k worth it la.
mine oni less 1k.
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so far mine one no change anythings...... still stock , but the sound is ok la.....still can last another year kua...maybe.. wait until myself gatal then only go modify. still have a lot of project to do, ICE later lol.
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Hmm .. just wondering here.

I'm gonna get my City VTEC with Built-in/integrated audio system.

If I change the HU and speakers, will the Warranty be voided?

Cos my current perdana v6 has 100% Alpine System that cost me around 6K the last time I did it and I love the sound and don't want to sell the car with it. I am selling the car but not with the system.

Any advises from the sifu's here??

Thanks all!
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post Jul 5 2008, 07:21 AM

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any none original parts - warranty void
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yes bafukie...confirm.. smile.gif


 

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