Hey thanks for answering.
Oh!! so sogotrade do ask for w8ben form also la? They only ask me to fill in the signature form and gib them my passport photocopy. I am abit confused liao. Coz firsttrade they email me all those forms & stuffz i need to fill in and submit. But with sogotrade, they only emailed me the signature form. Then when i try to look in their website to check on the w8ben form, i cant find it. Or maybe i am not looking hard enuf. Where do they tell you to get the w8ben form? Their customer service sucks...they ask me to ask the tax department coz its not their business to answer me about tax!! i mean come on...they cant even tell me about the w8ben form?!! Omg......abit skeptical liao about using them. Oh well..maybe i am not following the right sequence.....did i jumped Q? LOL

This is where i currently am.
1. Open acc, got my username and pwd oredi.
2. They mailed me a Signature form to fill in and ask me to submit the following;
supporting documents.
·        Social Security Card
·        Proof of Identity -driver license or any government issued ID. (If you are not a U.S. citizen or resident, please submit a copy of your passport).
·        New Account Signature Form (NAS)

so...now i am wondering where to get the w8ben form coz i cant find in their webbie, n its not in the email...is it the step after?

like what say, the market is unpreditable.

mid night news is dangerous because we cannot react.

C has changed position from -12cents to +14 cents during the mid-night.

I bought URE at 5.85 last night & Q to sell at 6.05. It strike when I am sleep. cool.

Also bought C at 4.60.

What is your opinion on minimum amount to start trading in NYSE?

USD 5k?

I had being tradin in the US market for more than 5 years both in equities and options.
I am happy to share information. Please PM me if you need more information.

W8 form is standard. I used 1 form for multiple Broker. Downloaded 1 form, fill it in (Acrobat Form format) and signed it. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw8ben.pdf

I'm not sure why you worry too much about tax.
Only time the TAX being charged if you earn the DIVIDEND from your holding Share. I don't care much about the DIV as most of the time, a good share will appreciate in value.

Come on, after all, do you buy 10,000 shares of Microsoft, Apple etc? Not all companies will give DIV.

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Added on October 1, 2009, 9:11 am
True, any BOURSE in the world is the same, not only US market. Even KLSE can reverse trend in matter of minute. As long as there's no bad news about the company, then its a safe bet. DJIA was -125 and C was 4.51-4.52. When DJIA was -75, C was 4.58-4.62. So, based on that logic, DJIA recovered to -25, C is positive.

Not only C, all the rest follow-suit with DJIA movements.
So, you should be able to trade next week? Or still hoping for C to drop to $3?
Congrats - Mine not yet, URE TP 6.25 UYG TP 6.15 (need to cover comm, damn, it was filled x50 and x100, not the whole x150)

Placing order to buy 110 C today @ 4.72.
Will it be too high? I think it will still have rooms.

Placing order to buy 110 C today @ 4.72.
Will it be too high? I think it will still have rooms.

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Added on October 1, 2009, 8:45 pm

Replacing order to buy 110 @ 4.65

Placing order to buy 110 C today @ 4.72.
Will it be too high? I think it will still have rooms.

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Added on October 1, 2009, 8:45 pm

Replacing order to buy 110 @ 4.65

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Added on October 1, 2009, 8:53 pm

oh no.. the price roses to 4.80 already..
seems like have to make the order when the market open..

If want to buy now, maybe I suggest you to buy small position. From yesterday chart, price spike during the last few minutes before market close. It may go down but I could be wrong.

Anyway I gonna throw mine if price >4.80

Placing order to buy 110 C today @ 4.72.
Will it be too high? I think it will still have rooms.

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Added on October 1, 2009, 8:45 pm

Replacing order to buy 110 @ 4.65

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Added on October 1, 2009, 8:53 pm

oh no.. the price roses to 4.80 already..
seems like have to make the order when the market open..

GHz staying awake? Thanks advising.

My order price @ 4.65 for 110 shares.

Will see how when market opens.

SOLD C @ Pre-Market x500 @ 4.80

has anyone tried www.thinkorswim.com to trade before?

no one use that.

W8 form is standard. I used 1 form for multiple Broker. Downloaded 1 form, fill it in (Acrobat Form format) and signed it. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw8ben.pdf

I'm not sure why you worry too much about tax.
Only time the TAX being charged if you earn the DIVIDEND from your holding Share. I don't care much about the DIV as most of the time, a good share will appreciate in value.

Come on, after all, do you buy 10,000 shares of Microsoft, Apple etc? Not all companies will give DIV.

Sold earlier. Anticipate bad opening and low pricing up to 10pm



LONG 4.60
SOLD 4.80

pull out..
wait and see..

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Added on October 1, 2009, 11:12 pmC has dropped to 4.60. Still haven't bought. my remisier said the bearish will for long time..