AMDŽ Socket-AM2/AM2+ Overclocking thread (V4), Cockcroach AMD :P
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Lowyat.NET AM2 Clan User List       Show your SuperPi 32M or Orthos [>1 hour] with CPU-Z overclocked screenshot [CPU and Memory]   Please provide me w your details in this format as I do not know your hardware details  CODE Processor Model | LYN Nick | Mobo Model | Ram Type | Ram Speed | Ram Timing | Cooler Model This post has been edited by -pWs-: Jan 14 2008, 01:15 AM |
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Dec 17 2007, 08:01 PM
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AM2 CPU/DDR2 Divider Table
 Motherboard BIOS Biostar TA690G [Modded] : http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/TA690G DFI Inf UltraII-M2 [Modded] : http://www.lejabeach.com/DFI/dfinfultra2-m...fultra2-m2.html Other Useful Threads LYN DDR2 discussions : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/298646 LYN Super PI 1M Top 10 (DDR2) : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/321443 OCMania : http://www.ocmania.com/ This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 20 2007, 08:35 PM |
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Dec 17 2007, 08:07 PM
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1st post haha
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Dec 17 2007, 08:07 PM
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2nd...
Nice.. V4 started  tempting to switch platform.. but not worth =.=" This post has been edited by Without: Dec 17 2007, 08:10 PM |
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3rd xD ........
edit : onggbs...almost there u know... This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 17 2007, 08:13 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 17 2007, 08:12 PM
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Do not spam please....Thanks
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Dec 17 2007, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 17 2007, 08:12 PM) Do not spam please....Thanks i din spam ler...i wan reserve den wan post my 1m result ^^-pWs-  |
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Dec 17 2007, 08:50 PM
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Okie ..misunderstanding then
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Dec 17 2007, 08:52 PM
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My 1st attempt of 32M super pi..
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Dec 17 2007, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 17 2007, 08:52 PM) My 1st attempt of 32M super pi.. u should have a lot space to move on man~  G1 could hit 2.7~2.8 easily |
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Dec 17 2007, 09:26 PM
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i very sad..my windows corrupted...all my data for oc and ss lost due autoformat itself...
 BTW congrat in V4 |
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Dec 17 2007, 09:35 PM
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V4!!!!
I need some advice on my timings before i changed to 10th ann.   This post has been edited by ocz: Dec 17 2007, 09:36 PM |
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Dec 17 2007, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 17 2007, 09:35 PM) V4!!!! what speed and divider is that? I need some advice on my timings before i changed to 10th ann. tRD change to 1,5mclk This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 17 2007, 10:16 PM |
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Dec 17 2007, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 17 2007, 09:25 PM) u should have a lot space to move on man~ yup,i know that...what holding me back is that im still using the stock hsf with only valueram G1 could hit 2.7~2.8 easily so far so good with the 2.5ghz...doesnt dare enough to push it further since G1 temp cant be determined by software..huhu  maybe after i've got another cooler,i'll try to push it to 3ghz.  |
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Dec 17 2007, 10:58 PM
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is there possible to OC to 1 tera HZ?
using liquid nitrogen? just asking. cause saw some guy using his pentium 4 OC to 3Ghz using liquid nitrogen |
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Dec 17 2007, 11:22 PM
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never heard about that..just only 7ghz and the 500ghz..but its been long time ago
http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/20/ibm-git...-cpu-to-500ghz/ highest amd can go can be find at amdgeeks myb..can see 5000+ go to 4103mhz |
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Dec 17 2007, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 17 2007, 08:08 PM) 3rd xD ........ Wah...so fast V4 liau ah! edit : onggbs...almost there u know...  Haha...welcome all buddies to V4 bro dj, tonite u no need sleep lah...go OC kaw3 then tarik me down... (really2 close...diff by 0.001s )  btw, what cooler u used to get 3.719GHz??? I saw 1.6+ Vcore wor Iced water cooling?  Calling bro Xixo....u dun sneaking ah....faster go OC kaw4 !  bro pws, just a suggestion, maybe can put a link to the Super PI 1M thread in 1st page here Added on December 17, 2007, 11:46 pm QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 17 2007, 08:07 PM) 1st post haha walau eh...u ah...baju x pakai dah lama tunggu V4 opening ceremony ah? F3 users come come post more results~  U need to work hard too bro....V2 F3 users is coming closer and closer This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 18 2007, 12:16 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:03 AM
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wah V4 already, bro PWS, do update my on user list with my current 24/7 rock stable setting
All hardwares are as of my siggy, except for the waterblock which is the whitewater instead of my current apogee GT (D-tek Fuzion tomorrow  )Been running this setting for a week 24/7, gaming, working and its solid as of now and this setting passed memtest for 24 hrs as well |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 17 2007, 10:12 PM) what speed and divider is that? Its div 667.running 1140mhz tRD change to 1,5mclk what the rest,is it ok? |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 17 2007, 11:34 PM) Wah...so fast V4 liau ah! hahaha..yea...iced....-10 degrees sometimes...and normally -9...wahahahha... Haha...welcome all buddies to V4 bro dj, tonite u no need sleep lah...go OC kaw3 then tarik me down... (really2 close...diff by 0.001s ) btw, what cooler u used to get 3.719GHz??? I saw 1.6+ Vcore wor Iced water cooling? damn PI dun wan let me win u lol...i lose by ram only =( voltdrop suck |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 12:03 AM) wah V4 already, bro PWS, do update my on user list with my current 24/7 rock stable setting what vcore u need for that prime =.= is it 1.5?
All hardwares are as of my siggy, except for the waterblock which is the whitewater instead of my current apogee GT (D-tek Fuzion tomorrow )Been running this setting for a week 24/7, gaming, working and its solid as of now and this setting passed memtest for 24 hrs as well good clock This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 18 2007, 12:43 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:42 AM
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@pWs,
just to correct u,im using Corsair ram,not Kingston. thanks for the entry.. |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 17 2007, 11:34 PM) Wah...so fast V4 liau ah! Already added Haha...welcome all buddies to V4 bro dj, tonite u no need sleep lah...go OC kaw3 then tarik me down... (really2 close...diff by 0.001s ) btw, what cooler u used to get 3.719GHz??? I saw 1.6+ Vcore wor Iced water cooling? Calling bro Xixo....u dun sneaking ah....faster go OC kaw4 ! bro pws, just a suggestion, maybe can put a link to the Super PI 1M thread in 1st page here Thanks for the suggestion. Database Updated. Old entries added in. You will see one user with many entries. -pWs- |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 17 2007, 10:44 PM) yup,i know that...what holding me back is that im still using the stock hsf with only valueram can put aircond kaw kaw + hifh cfm fan ma... so far so good with the 2.5ghz...doesnt dare enough to push it further since G1 temp cant be determined by software..huhu maybe after i've got another cooler,i'll try to push it to 3ghz. |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 12:47 AM) can put aircond kaw kaw + hifh cfm fan ma... hahaha...i think better do WC like u did than use aircond...if use aircond,later electricity bil goes up kaw-kaw also.. gonna buy xigmatek cooler soon...just waiting for money to fall from the sky.  |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 18 2007, 12:38 AM) what vcore u need for that prime =.= is it 1.5? its actually stable at 1.5v, but since my temps are still good even at 1.55v.. ive decided to leave it @ 1.55v for the peace of mind =)good clock Im sure u wont want to crash in the middle pwning in games xD QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 12:43 AM) Already added thx for updating bro.. but as for cooling.. ive ditched my cpns 9700NT and switched cooling approx 5 times till my current one already Thanks for the suggestion. Database Updated. Old entries added in. You will see one user with many entries. -pWs- QUOTE(naz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:00 AM) hahaha...i think better do WC like u did than use aircond...if use aircond,later electricity bil goes up kaw-kaw also.. You have to be very very carefull when you're dealing with temps below ambient. These sort of cooling method does indeed gives very good temps, but only for 1 overclocking session and not for long term use. If you're not carefull and didnt pay much attention to it and without proper insulation, the water from condensation will kill off your rig like roasted duck. gonna buy xigmatek cooler soon...just waiting for money to fall from the sky. |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:12 AM) You have to be very very carefull when you're dealing with temps below ambient. These sort of cooling method does indeed gives very good temps, but only for 1 overclocking session and not for long term use. If you're not carefull and didnt pay much attention to it and without proper insulation, the water from condensation will kill off your rig like roasted duck. thanks for the info dude! but i dont think im gonna use WC. my rig not that powerful,so doesnt worth with the WC value. xigmatek cooler will be just nice for me...but thats also need to wait maybe till next month~ |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:23 AM
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New updates from newbie here.
 
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Dec 18 2007, 01:23 AM
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IMHO, a good cooling solution is always worth its price. Its not because of your current rig is powerfull or not. Especially these days where nearly all high ended 3rd party cooling is multi platform compatible, you can always use them again and again for your future upgrades. Unlike hardwares which will age very fast, cooling solution doesnt.
Added on December 18, 2007, 1:25 am QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:23 AM) New updates from newbie here. im sure you can go higher bro, most of us F3 users here are able to run 3.0Ghz on stock vcore.
Any suggestions? With your 1.4v, you can most likely achieve 3.2Ghz stable already. This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 18 2007, 01:25 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:12 AM) You have to be very very carefull when you're dealing with temps below ambient. These sort of cooling method does indeed gives very good temps, but only for 1 overclocking session and not for long term use. If you're not carefull and didnt pay much attention to it and without proper insulation, the water from condensation will kill off your rig like roasted duck. my proc socket wet today...cant boot lol....nasib din burn anything...i also will get xigmatek...coz this WC set pinjam from db punye ^^ |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:23 AM) IMHO, a good cooling solution is always worth its price. Its not because of your current rig is powerfull or not. Especially these days where nearly all high ended 3rd party cooling is multi platform compatible, you can always use them again and again for your future upgrades. Unlike hardwares which will age very fast, cooling solution doesnt. Thats rite.Thanx bro.But now i dont really focus on the proc,its the rams.I want to get 12++ with tight timings.Any suggestions?Added on December 18, 2007, 1:25 am im sure you can go higher bro, most of us F3 users here are able to run 3.0Ghz on stock vcore. With your 1.4v, you can most likely achieve 3.2Ghz stable already. My rams currently running 2.65V  |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:31 AM) Thats rite.Thanx bro.But now i dont really focus on the proc,its the rams.I want to get 12++ with tight timings.Any suggestions? 2.65 O_O got use any cooler or no? if not very dangerous la....My rams currently running 2.65V hmm..jealous ur ram can get those kinda voltage to drink..mine only 2.4... |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:31 AM) ............................... another diehard OCer....2.65V My rams currently running 2.65V so what is the best speed/timing at this Vdimm? This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 18 2007, 01:36 AM |
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:34 AM) 2.65 O_O got use any cooler or no? if not very dangerous la.... yours not "only" 2.4V cos belum nampak asap yet hmm..jealous ur ram can get those kinda voltage to drink..mine only 2.4... What ram r u using? with active cooling? This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 18 2007, 01:38 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 01:38 AM) yours not "only" 2.4V cos belum nampak asap yet crucial ballistix tracer...800mhz one...got fan cooler la.... What ram r u using? with active cooling? |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:34 AM) 2.65 O_O got use any cooler or no? if not very dangerous la.... Lol.Im using the corsair ram cooler now.Just arrived today so i think its ok la.So far no smoke yet.hmm..jealous ur ram can get those kinda voltage to drink..mine only 2.4... Will let my pc run orthos 24/7 first and see whether my rams can tahan or not. QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 01:36 AM) another diehard OCer....2.65V No lah bro,im just targeting to get 26secs spi with this speed but still cannot. so what is the best speed/timing at this Vdimm? Now using 5-5-4-3-2T 1200@3.0Ghz. Now want to try 3.2Ghz @ 5-5-4-3-2T @ 13++ Hope i can get it. |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:46 AM) Lol.Im using the corsair ram cooler now.Just arrived today so i think its ok la.So far no smoke yet. hmm...my ram got heatspreader....sometimes during oc i'll touch it to check the temperature...Will let my pc run orthos 24/7 first and see whether my rams can tahan or not. No lah bro,im just targeting to get 26secs spi with this speed but still cannot. Now using 5-5-4-3-2T 1200@3.0Ghz. Now want to try 3.2Ghz @ 5-5-4-3-2T @ 13++ Hope i can get it. 26secs is quite easy =x...but i think u need more than 3g This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 18 2007, 01:49 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:48 AM) hmm...my ram got heatspreader....sometimes during oc i'll touch it to check the temperature... Bro,whats the speed of rams if i run 3.1Ghz at div 800?26secs is quite easy =x...but i think u need more than 3g |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM
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sigh sigh... totally jealous haha.
My board max vdimm is 2.4 and 1.55 for vcore. 3.5Ghz is the highest benchable i can get while 3.6 boot but only lasts 10 secs in windows Gonna get new board soon with phenom Actually, Iced cooling is rather cheap. You dont have to go uber high end, you dont need a reservoir, and you dont need a radiator which can save up alot. 1. Pump = Get any pump from the aquarium shop which is submersible. Cost only approx RM20-RM45 (nirox P3800) 2. Waterblock, look for some used or any cheap second hand waterblock will do, might cost only approx RM50-150 3. Bucket = im sure you have one lying around ur hse... 4. Hose/tubes = just use any that you can find from your garden or get some gas tubes from your nearest hardware shop which will cost less than RM5 5. If ur lazy to make the ice, buy 1 pack from your nearest 7-11 which will cost less than RM5 for ALOT of ice. Now... mount the waterblock on your cpu and connect the inlet/outlet tubes, on the tube connectors to the waterblock, wrap it with a cloth and ziptie/tie them. If possible, "spam" those Silica Gel packets that you see in a brand new shoe box or any stuff u buy that will prevent moist. It helps a little to reduce condensation. Then.. connect the tube to the outlet of your pump, and just dump your pump in the bucket. connect another tube to the outlet of your waterblock and direct it to the bucket as well or if you dont mind keep refilling the water on the iced bucket and do not want the hot water to flowback to the ice, direct it to a separate bucket. Power up your pump.. and you have an "Chilled Watercooling System" |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:48 AM) hmm...my ram got heatspreader....sometimes during oc i'll touch it to check the temperature... with heatspreader the best u may put cooling fan on top, those 80mm fan will do...26secs is quite easy =x...but i think u need more than 3g trust me...even with heatspreader without fan temp still shoot up like mad If got fan no harm trying 1.5V. |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM) Bro,whats the speed of rams if i run 3.1Ghz at div 800? this one i'm not sure lol..check the table at the first page there |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM) ........................................ 5. If ur lazy to make the ice, buy 1 pack from your nearest 7-11 which will cost less than RM5 for ALOT of ice. ..................................................... beli lah RM10 to 15 then all night long can OC kaw3! |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:58 AM
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Most PCB these days can take up to 90c+, as claimed by crucial, their PCB is able to handle 85c. Brainpower pcb can do 100c+
Of course... an active cooling would help ALOT since these heatspreaders are originally designed to be cooled passively. And another thing, please remember, do NOT use copper heatspreader unless you plan on using a high cfm fan on it. Copper does indeed absort the heat more efficiently that alu, but the heat stays in the copper as it doesnt dissipate as good as alu. Therefore, high cfm fans must be used if you plan on going copper heatspreader. Then again, the hottest part of the ram on stress is not the chip, but the PCB area near the gold pins. Added on December 18, 2007, 1:59 am QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 01:57 AM) aiyo bro, bulu ayam dah habis buang nak save kicap plak? haha bro.. main safe la, lama sangat iced nanti mobo hangus beli lah RM10 to 15 then all night long can OC kaw3! btw, great to hear my pump arrived safely to you what are u waiting for...? go to your near 7-11 now, its open 24/7 xD This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 18 2007, 02:00 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM) sigh sigh... totally jealous haha. ur vdimm same with me lor...i need to use 533 instead of 667...thats y SPI time not nice...My board max vdimm is 2.4 and 1.55 for vcore. 3.5Ghz is the highest benchable i can get while 3.6 boot but only lasts 10 secs in windows Gonna get new board soon with phenom Actually, Iced cooling is rather cheap. You dont have to go uber high end, you dont need a reservoir, and you dont need a radiator which can save up alot. 1. Pump = Get any pump from the aquarium shop which is submersible. Cost only approx RM20-RM45 (nirox P3800) 2. Waterblock, look for some used or any cheap second hand waterblock will do, might cost only approx RM50-150 3. Bucket = im sure you have one lying around ur hse... 4. Hose/tubes = just use any that you can find from your garden or get some gas tubes from your nearest hardware shop which will cost less than RM5 5. If ur lazy to make the ice, buy 1 pack from your nearest 7-11 which will cost less than RM5 for ALOT of ice. Now... mount the waterblock on your cpu and connect the inlet/outlet tubes, on the tube connectors to the waterblock, wrap it with a cloth and ziptie/tie them. If possible, "spam" those Silica Gel packets that you see in a brand new shoe box or any stuff u buy that will prevent moist. It helps a little to reduce condensation. Then.. connect the tube to the outlet of your pump, and just dump your pump in the bucket. connect another tube to the outlet of your waterblock and direct it to the bucket as well or if you dont mind keep refilling the water on the iced bucket and do not want the hot water to flowback to the ice, direct it to a separate bucket. Power up your pump.. and you have an "Chilled Watercooling System" for the pump, higher liters per hour is better..but you must check the tube size...if BBBIIGGGG pump with small tube also not very good...will limit the water pump for the watever bucket or pail...better to get something like polystyrene to reduce the energy lost to surrounding... Added on December 18, 2007, 2:02 am QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 01:53 AM) with heatspreader the best u may put cooling fan on top, those 80mm fan will do... i tried using without fan at my mum's rig..intel rig la...running dual ch, no oc...i use like 1-2 hrs only..no cooling for rams...then later i cabut the ram...walau..damn hot...i dont know how the rams survive if i oc without coolingtrust me...even with heatspreader without fan temp still shoot up like mad If got fan no harm trying 1.5V. This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 18 2007, 02:02 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:00 AM) ur vdimm same with me lor...i need to use 533 instead of 667...thats y SPI time not nice... at least you can go higher with ur vcore for the pump, higher liters per hour is better..but you must check the tube size...if BBBIIGGGG pump with small tube also not very good...will limit the water pump for the watever bucket or pail...better to get something like polystyrene to reduce the energy lost to surrounding... For the pump, id say get a slower pump for ice cooling and since you're only cooling a single component. In a setup like this, general WC kit theory doesnt apply entirely. You need to balance up the waterflow and the heat load that its brigging alot through the waterblock. Too fast and the water doesnt stay long enough in the waterblock thus reducing its efficiency and too slow... the waterblock will heat up the water instead of the water chilling it. And when i say tube... i meant 1/2" tubes... these days in any decent water cooling kits... nobody use 3/8 anymore. This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 18 2007, 02:05 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 02:04 AM) at least you can go higher with ur vcore you try to put ur finger on running cold water and cold water in a container....i dont know if it applies to WC in pcFor the pump, id say get a slower pump for ice cooling and since you're only cooling a single component. In a setup like this, general WC kit theory doesnt apply entirely. You need to balance up the waterflow and the heat load that its brigging alot through the waterblock. Too fast and the water doesnt stay long enough in the waterblock thus reducing its efficiency and too slow... the waterblock will heat up the water instead of the water chilling it. And when i say tube... i meant 1/2" tubes... these days in any decent water cooling kits... nobody use 3/8 anymore. but u said waterpump from aquarium shops....smaller pump will use smaller tube..and bigger pump will use bigger tube...my 6000/l pump for fish uses a hose bigger than those that you normally see ppl use at thier garden or when they wash car that type...and the one i'm using uses a tube which is like..half the size of my fish pump This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 18 2007, 02:16 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:58 AM) Most PCB these days can take up to 90c+, as claimed by crucial, their PCB is able to handle 85c. Brainpower pcb can do 100c+ you are right bro, near gold fingers there is the weak point, if RAM not plug-in securely higher chance to get hangus Of course... an active cooling would help ALOT since these heatspreaders are originally designed to be cooled passively. And another thing, please remember, do NOT use copper heatspreader unless you plan on using a high cfm fan on it. Copper does indeed absort the heat more efficiently that alu, but the heat stays in the copper as it doesnt dissipate as good as alu. Therefore, high cfm fans must be used if you plan on going copper heatspreader. Then again, the hottest part of the ram on stress is not the chip, but the PCB area near the gold pins. Added on December 18, 2007, 1:59 am haha bro.. main safe la, lama sangat iced nanti mobo hangus btw, great to hear my pump arrived safely to you what are u waiting for...? go to your near 7-11 now, its open 24/7 xD I got exactly the same pump, just buy extra as spare Added on December 18, 2007, 2:28 am QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:00 AM) ur vdimm same with me lor...i need to use 533 instead of 667...thats y SPI time not nice... aiyo, without proper cooling then dun go too far...asap keluar nnt susah for the pump, higher liters per hour is better..but you must check the tube size...if BBBIIGGGG pump with small tube also not very good...will limit the water pump for the watever bucket or pail...better to get something like polystyrene to reduce the energy lost to surrounding... Added on December 18, 2007, 2:02 am i tried using without fan at my mum's rig..intel rig la...running dual ch, no oc...i use like 1-2 hrs only..no cooling for rams...then later i cabut the ram...walau..damn hot...i dont know how the rams survive if i oc without cooling No need to cabut the DDR2 u also know it is damn hot, just touch any of the chipsets while OC kaw2 and u will know This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 18 2007, 02:28 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE aiyo, without proper cooling then dun go too far...asap keluar nnt susah aiyoo...on intel mobo..when i got say i oc lerrrr No need to cabut the DDR2 u also know it is damn hot, just touch any of the chipsets while OC kaw2 and u will know |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:31 AM
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Cant get anything higher than 3.10Ghz with @ 1.7V rams running 1280 @ 5-5-4-3-2T with 2.65Vdimm.
I tried to capture the SS but failed.The most dissapointing part is it fail i cant run it again. |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:31 AM) Cant get anything higher than 3.10Ghz with @ 1.7V rams running 1280 @ 5-5-4-3-2T with 2.65Vdimm. you mean the S PI fail and can't run it again?I tried to capture the SS but failed.The most dissapointing part is it fail i cant run it again. Try close S PI and run again, should be OK, no need to restart PC. 1.7V, that is dangerous man This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 18 2007, 02:38 AM |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:31 AM) Cant get anything higher than 3.10Ghz with @ 1.7V rams running 1280 @ 5-5-4-3-2T with 2.65Vdimm. I tried to capture the SS but failed.The most dissapointing part is it fail i cant run it again. u using ddr800 devider?prepare to boom ur Proc or Ram anytime dude~~ better play safe la~~ |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:31 AM) Cant get anything higher than 3.10Ghz with @ 1.7V rams running 1280 @ 5-5-4-3-2T with 2.65Vdimm. bro...my advise larr...lol... i know adding vdimm is fun..same as vcore I tried to capture the SS but failed.The most dissapointing part is it fail i cant run it again. coz i know the feeling also but hahaha your voltage is veryyy high... it's like the redline of the voltage |
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Dec 18 2007, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 02:35 AM) you mean the S PI fail and can't run it again? Thans bro,my pc cant boot for 10minits..no power. Try close S PI and run again, should be OK, no need to restart PC. 1.7V, that is dangerous man . QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 18 2007, 02:42 AM) u using ddr800 devider?prepare to boom ur Proc or Ram anytime dude~~ better play safe la~~ 1.75Vcore and 2.65Vdimm. QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:43 AM) bro...my advise larr...lol... i know adding vdimm is fun..same as vcore Thanx for reminding bro.my rams heatsink is very very very hot when i ran 1mb spi. coz i know the feeling also but hahaha your voltage is veryyy high... it's like the redline of the voltage I will stop now.I found the full stop d. |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:56 AM) Thans bro,my pc cant boot for 10minits..no power. great to know you're stopping the vdimm increase haha....i felt very bad when i thought my ram died while running on STOCK speed...wth...but actually my mobo got wet... . Yup,using 800Div,actually trying to get 13++ mhz ram speed with tight timing.but its impossible.Even with 1.75Vcore and 2.65Vdimm. Thanx for reminding bro.my rams heatsink is very very very hot when i ran 1mb spi. I will stop now.I found the full stop d. and advise for iced watercooling users...remember to ALWAYS check for water drips from the condensation on your motherboard...my proc got wet today and the socket there also got water... |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:11 AM) you try to put ur finger on running cold water and cold water in a container....i dont know if it applies to WC in pc 6000L/H but u said waterpump from aquarium shops....smaller pump will use smaller tube..and bigger pump will use bigger tube...my 6000/l pump for fish uses a hose bigger than those that you normally see ppl use at thier garden or when they wash car that type...and the one i'm using uses a tube which is like..half the size of my fish pump  lol this is seriously overkill, im sure you are able to achieve better result with lower flow rate, try it =) and i really do mean much lower, somewhere between 1200/1500L/H QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 03:21 AM) great to know you're stopping the vdimm increase haha....i felt very bad when i thought my ram died while running on STOCK speed...wth...but actually my mobo got wet... this is exactly the risk of chilled cooling, applies to peltier as well. Good thing ur board is still workin.and advise for iced watercooling users...remember to ALWAYS check for water drips from the condensation on your motherboard...my proc got wet today and the socket there also got water... |
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Dec 18 2007, 04:13 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 03:32 AM) 6000L/H nono i mean the 6000l/hr is for my fish =.= ...the one i'm using is i think 2000l/hr lol this is seriously overkill, im sure you are able to achieve better result with lower flow rate, try it =) and i really do mean much lower, somewhere between 1200/1500L/H this is exactly the risk of chilled cooling, applies to peltier as well. Good thing ur board is still workin. |
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Dec 18 2007, 04:27 AM
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bro.. 2000L/h for a single block is still kinda too much
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Dec 18 2007, 05:06 AM
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@ericzz
You get the 23.+++ secs spi with using 400DIV? Can share the timings? |
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Dec 18 2007, 05:28 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 03:21 AM) great to know you're stopping the vdimm increase haha....i felt very bad when i thought my ram died while running on STOCK speed...wth...but actually my mobo got wet... Maybe u should turn yr mobo upside down and advise for iced watercooling users...remember to ALWAYS check for water drips from the condensation on your motherboard...my proc got wet today and the socket there also got water... let the water drop down |
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Dec 18 2007, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 05:28 AM) Maybe u should turn yr mobo upside down standing pose is the best let the water drop down |
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Dec 18 2007, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 18 2007, 06:27 AM) standing pose is the best ya ka?water will drip into socket right? |
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Dec 18 2007, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 05:06 AM) @ericzz he using 533 devider You get the 23.+++ secs spi with using 400DIV? Can share the timings?  |
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Dec 18 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 06:36 AM) ya ka? water drip there coz the processor itself got condensationwater will drip into socket right? |
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Dec 18 2007, 10:16 AM
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first timing set to 4....and others in the screenshot
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Dec 18 2007, 10:17 AM
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Wonder why i using 667 devider @ 10multiper, it cant boot even at 260 bus speed
but when i lower the multiple to 9.5 it can boot even at 336 bus speed@ 3.2Ghz but the super pi is damm slow only 36s@1m after that i try lower again to 9 multiple @ 336 bus speed @ 3.0Ghz, the SP result is better than 9.5 multiple @ 30s@1m BTW the MAL ,Trd n other timing how to set is better?  |
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Dec 18 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 17 2007, 11:34 PM) Calling bro Xixo....u dun sneaking ah....faster go OC kaw4 !   QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 01:57 AM) aiyo bro, bulu ayam dah habis buang nak save kicap plak? make ur own ice in freezer..haha beli lah RM10 to 15 then all night long can OC kaw3! save edi |
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Dec 18 2007, 10:36 AM
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try 533 devider nw~
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Dec 18 2007, 10:43 AM
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try to tight it first.. mal set to 6, n refresh mode select down to reserve value n see either there is improvement
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Dec 18 2007, 10:44 AM
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lazy to tune the timing ~ try push more 3.4@1.45vore.
Target is 3.5 with lowest vcore  Added on December 18, 2007, 10:45 am QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 18 2007, 10:43 AM) try to tight it first.. mal set to 6, n refresh mode select down to reserve value n see either there is improvement ok i try it later~~ Added on December 18, 2007, 10:58 amfinally get 3.5 @ 1.5vore~~ try tune the ram nw~ BTW why my SP cant show the 26.xxx d?? can someone teach me??  This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 18 2007, 10:58 AM |
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 17 2007, 08:08 PM) 3rd xD ........ fuhhh ganas liao..ok..ok...Ill change to ice soon.........kick me from 3rd spot..aaaedit : onggbs...almost there u know... Im gonna kick all liao in SuperPI 1m whhaahhahah(Enuff lanci or not??).....waiting for apogee to come in...hehheheh This post has been edited by CV6149: Dec 18 2007, 12:03 PM |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:31 PM
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having problem to set at 667 divider @ 10 multiple even 270busspeed also cant
And decide for daily use at 3.0Ghz, later got time cont tune the ram~ @-pWs- pls update mine Windsor 3800x2 F3 | Tachlio | DFI Ultra M2 | Micron OEM DDR2 800 | TT BTVX  This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 18 2007, 12:33 PM |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 18 2007, 12:01 PM) fuhhh ganas liao..ok..ok...Ill change to ice soon.........kick me from 3rd spot..aaa haha, u jump, i jump...Im gonna kick all liao in SuperPI 1m whhaahhahah(Enuff lanci or not??).....waiting for apogee to come in...hehheheh see who tarik who down then |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 18 2007, 01:31 PM) having problem to set at 667 divider @ 10 multiple even 270busspeed also cant SuperPI Vista is different with XP.. And decide for daily use at 3.0Ghz, later got time cont tune the ram~ @-pWs- pls update mine Windsor 3800x2 F3 | Tachlio | DFI Ultra M2 | Micron OEM DDR2 800 | TT BTVX Vista will slow 1.xxx , open memset & superpi only. others end task it. should achieve good result, superpi finish open cpu-z & take screenshot with 8xxmhz try 4-4-4-4 timing with 2.3vdimm. |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 18 2007, 10:44 AM) lazy to tune the timing ~ try push more 3.4@1.45vore. your super pi is older version one Target is 3.5 with lowest vcore » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on December 18, 2007, 10:45 am ok i try it later~~ Added on December 18, 2007, 10:58 amfinally get 3.5 @ 1.5vore~~ try tune the ram nw~ BTW why my SP cant show the 26.xxx d?? can someone teach me?? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « use this, super pi MOD 1.5 http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/ |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 18 2007, 12:01 PM) fuhhh ganas liao..ok..ok...Ill change to ice soon.........kick me from 3rd spot..aaa Im gonna kick all liao in SuperPI 1m whhaahhahah(Enuff lanci or not??).....waiting for apogee to come in...hehheheh QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 18 2007, 12:36 PM) haha, u jump, i jump... bro ongbs and CV6149 finally take action see who tarik who down then |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 11:16 AM) first timing set to 4....and others in the screenshot try use memset 3.4 beta 1 & 4-4-4-12 should be ok at 810mhz |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(Without @ Dec 18 2007, 12:41 PM) SuperPI Vista is different with XP.. i using XP bro~Vista will slow 1.xxx , open memset & superpi only. others end task it. should achieve good result, superpi finish open cpu-z & take screenshot with 8xxmhz try 4-4-4-4 timing with 2.3vdimm. the theme is mod ady~ |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:25 PM
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if not wrong mod theme will also causes pc run slow..
like mine clean install using Windows XP SP3 |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM) Bro,whats the speed of rams if i run 3.1Ghz at div 800? 3100/5= 620 1240MHz , if you are using cpu multiplier 10 |
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aiya..i didnt online for a day only, now v4 and page 4...
bro dblooi, which is better? i make ddr1200 wif 2.17vdimm,with loose timing or ddr 1000 wih tight timing?im not at home, cant test on my own |
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 18 2007, 02:57 PM) aiya..i didnt online for a day only, now v4 and page 4... -deleted due to wrong info-bro dblooi, which is better? i make ddr1200 wif 2.17vdimm,with loose timing or ddr 1000 wih tight timing?im not at home, cant test on my own This post has been edited by CV6149: Dec 18 2007, 07:44 PM |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:23 PM
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Bro CV6149,
Do you add chip voltage to ensure HT Link stability>?? -pWs- |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 03:23 PM) Bro CV6149, What is default chip voltage? Mine can go up to 1300-1400 without any issue. However, I don't seem experience better performance.Do you add chip voltage to ensure HT Link stability>?? -pWs- Who has try OC Phenom to 3Ghz? I heard TLB errectra issue only persists in Virtualization environment esp in Opteron servers. |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:30 PM
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hmm...hav you all wonder....proc without oc or after oc is better?....coz i think those proc if never oc is better...consumes less electric....
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Dec 18 2007, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 03:30 PM) hmm...hav you all wonder....proc without oc or after oc is better?....coz i think those proc if never oc is better...consumes less electric.... w/o oc consumes less electricity,but the cons,u have less performance..if u want power and prfrmance,oc, and u get what u want,but consume more power...choose to suit ur taste |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:51 PM
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w/o oc consumes less electricity
that line have problem... even with stock clock.. some cpu also eat all da power too... like old p4 ht no clock in stock like turtle pc for me now when using oc system... after so many years... my own opinion is use the oc system is far far more better than stock.. electric bill different for month maybe 10 ringgit only... but performance is twice the speed.... of stock.. if you dun prime 24 hours daily .. it use not much electric too even pump to voltage 2 volt... no heavy use ... it won't use power... just share my point =) Added on December 18, 2007, 3:55 pm QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 18 2007, 10:44 AM) lazy to tune the timing ~ try push more 3.4@1.45vore. uit tachlio bro... can try prime 1 hours and check your pwm temp for me at 3.4 and 1.45 vcore?Target is 3.5 with lowest vcore Added on December 18, 2007, 10:45 am ok i try it later~~ Added on December 18, 2007, 10:58 amfinally get 3.5 @ 1.5vore~~ try tune the ram nw~ BTW why my SP cant show the 26.xxx d?? can someone teach me?? thanks This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 18 2007, 03:57 PM |
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Dec 18 2007, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 18 2007, 03:34 PM) w/o oc consumes less electricity,but the cons,u have less performance.. nono..i mean like 2.0 oc to 3.2....compared to a stock 3.2.....if u want power and prfrmance,oc, and u get what u want,but consume more power...choose to suit ur taste |
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Dec 18 2007, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 18 2007, 02:57 PM) aiya..i didnt online for a day only, now v4 and page 4... ha, how loose it is? how tight it is?bro dblooi, which is better? i make ddr1200 wif 2.17vdimm,with loose timing or ddr 1000 wih tight timing?im not at home, cant test on my own CL 6 1200MHz? FYI , assume all sub timings are same CL5 1200MHz faster than CL4 1000MHz you can try everest memory benchmark by your own and figure it out |
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Dec 18 2007, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 03:59 PM) nono..i mean like 2.0 oc to 3.2....compared to a stock 3.2..... A stock 3.2GHz TDP is 125W And yours is 2.0GHz is 65W I think mostly the same -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 18 2007, 04:24 PM |
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 04:24 PM) was brisbane user once. my proc cant go higher than 3.1Ghz. That's the prob la. the best i cud achieve rite now is 29 seconds lor. But very satisdied with it aidy. my results are still in that Pi 1M thread this is my fastest result by using brisbane, 26.922s laugh.gif -pWs- p/s: any f3 users want sell their babies, do tell me ahh. hehe |
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Dec 18 2007, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 18 2007, 01:29 PM) 3100/5= 620 I got 1280 last nite with 2.65Vdimm @ 3.1ghz1240MHz , if you are using cpu multiplier 10 |
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Dec 18 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 18 2007, 03:51 PM) uit tachlio bro... can try prime 1 hours and check your pwm temp for me at 3.4 and 1.45 vcore? thanks 3rd party software can check? Any DFI user can help? |
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Dec 18 2007, 05:39 PM
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I think we cant check PWM temp. Not sure
But i always wondering what the system temp for which located in Smart Guardian. Is it PWM temp?? -pWs- |
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Dec 18 2007, 05:55 PM
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thinking to buy x2 4000++...does it bottleneck 8800gt performance?
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Dec 18 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 18 2007, 05:09 PM) my proc cant go higher than 3.1Ghz. That's the prob la. the best i cud achieve rite now is 29 seconds lor. But very satisdied with it aidy. for brisby 3.1G consider good liau bro p/s: any f3 users want sell their babies, do tell me ahh. hehe |
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Dec 18 2007, 06:25 PM
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anyone care to post everest benchmark here? I just did my benchmark just now. Might post the ss here and perhaps u guys cud evaluate wheteher it's good or not.
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Dec 18 2007, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 05:39 PM) I think we cant check PWM temp. Not sure nope, the system temp sensor located on mobo but not near the PWM.But i always wondering what the system temp for which located in Smart Guardian. Is it PWM temp?? -pWs- |
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Dec 18 2007, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 03:23 PM) Bro CV6149, nope.running now at 1658mhzDo you add chip voltage to ensure HT Link stability>?? -pWs- Still 1.2v for HT and 1.5 for chipset. |
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 18 2007, 07:12 PM) nope.running now at 1658mhz what's the max voltage for HT? Still 1.2v for HT and 1.5 for chipset. |
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Dec 18 2007, 08:01 PM
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Hei dblooi... all AMD 1600-LE is F3 stepping right?
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Dec 18 2007, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 05:39 PM) I think we cant check PWM temp. Not sure i dont think so also coz it not floating too much~But i always wondering what the system temp for which located in Smart Guardian. Is it PWM temp?? -pWs- |
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QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 18 2007, 08:01 PM) Hei dblooi... all AMD 1600-LE is F3 stepping right? Even if so. What good does a single core do? |
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Dec 18 2007, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 18 2007, 08:01 PM) Hei dblooi... all AMD 1600-LE is F3 stepping right? hi tictac ...wow...i was about to say no it isn't but then after did some searching.. result shows that it is F3 stepping 
a tip to pick a good F3 proc look at the proc , pick those with CCB8F 1 you will have 50% chance to get stock voltage hit 3G proc if you do so Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 18 2007, 09:10 PM
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Wah, I don't online for one day and buta already 5-6 pages from nothing..
QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 17 2007, 10:58 PM) is there possible to OC to 1 tera HZ? The world record is 1THz, but its using a prototype processor builts using Si-Ge, and it cannot run normal program code. It was cooled with liquid helium (FYI, its much cooler than LN2, and several times more expensive). Read about this in in-tech quite a long while back. Maybe the article can still be found in google.using liquid nitrogen? just asking. cause saw some guy using his pentium 4 OC to 3Ghz using liquid nitrogen QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:12 AM) its actually stable at 1.5v, but since my temps are still good even at 1.55v.. ive decided to leave it @ 1.55v for the peace of mind =) Not really, it also depends on the environment. If the air is perfectly dry, condensation will not happen.Im sure u wont want to crash in the middle pwning in games xD thx for updating bro.. but as for cooling.. ive ditched my cpns 9700NT and switched cooling approx 5 times till my current one already You have to be very very carefull when you're dealing with temps below ambient. These sort of cooling method does indeed gives very good temps, but only for 1 overclocking session and not for long term use. If you're not carefull and didnt pay much attention to it and without proper insulation, the water from condensation will kill off your rig like roasted duck. QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM) Actually, Iced cooling is rather cheap. You dont have to go uber high end, you dont need a reservoir, and you dont need a radiator which can save up alot. Did this once, but had no camera to take pics..OCed my Pentium 4 Northwood to 3.7Ghz on almost stock voltage. Wanted to go higher but ice melted super fast-damn pentiums are so hot.. 1. Pump = Get any pump from the aquarium shop which is submersible. Cost only approx RM20-RM45 (nirox P3800) 2. Waterblock, look for some used or any cheap second hand waterblock will do, might cost only approx RM50-150 3. Bucket = im sure you have one lying around ur hse... 4. Hose/tubes = just use any that you can find from your garden or get some gas tubes from your nearest hardware shop which will cost less than RM5 5. If ur lazy to make the ice, buy 1 pack from your nearest 7-11 which will cost less than RM5 for ALOT of ice. Now... mount the waterblock on your cpu and connect the inlet/outlet tubes, on the tube connectors to the waterblock, wrap it with a cloth and ziptie/tie them. If possible, "spam" those Silica Gel packets that you see in a brand new shoe box or any stuff u buy that will prevent moist. It helps a little to reduce condensation. Then.. connect the tube to the outlet of your pump, and just dump your pump in the bucket. connect another tube to the outlet of your waterblock and direct it to the bucket as well or if you dont mind keep refilling the water on the iced bucket and do not want the hot water to flowback to the ice, direct it to a separate bucket. Power up your pump.. and you have an "Chilled Watercooling System"  QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 01:58 AM) Most PCB these days can take up to 90c+, as claimed by crucial, their PCB is able to handle 85c. Brainpower pcb can do 100c+ The PCB can easily tahan 200C, but the ram chips..no way man..if they're too hot to hold on to continuously (at least 10 sec), then its too hot (~60C).Of course... an active cooling would help ALOT since these heatspreaders are originally designed to be cooled passively. And another thing, please remember, do NOT use copper heatspreader unless you plan on using a high cfm fan on it. Copper does indeed absort the heat more efficiently that alu, but the heat stays in the copper as it doesnt dissipate as good as alu. Therefore, high cfm fans must be used if you plan on going copper heatspreader. Then again, the hottest part of the ram on stress is not the chip, but the PCB area near the gold pins. About heatspreaders..if you actually google up comparisions, most heatspreaders are actually not effective at all, in fact most of them actually trap heat resulting in higher temperatures. The real advantage of heatspreaders is actually cosmetic, and also prevents physical damage to the chips. BGA chips are pretty easy to break. QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 18 2007, 02:11 AM) you try to put ur finger on running cold water and cold water in a container....i dont know if it applies to WC in pc You can mod the pump with barbs that match the tube you're using.but u said waterpump from aquarium shops....smaller pump will use smaller tube..and bigger pump will use bigger tube...my 6000/l pump for fish uses a hose bigger than those that you normally see ppl use at thier garden or when they wash car that type...and the one i'm using uses a tube which is like..half the size of my fish pump QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 18 2007, 03:32 AM) 6000L/H Played with a peltier once too..but couldn't pump enough power to make it effective at full load. But even then, I had hell with condensation the moment I stopped prime, temps dropped faster than you can say oops.. lol this is seriously overkill, im sure you are able to achieve better result with lower flow rate, try it =) and i really do mean much lower, somewhere between 1200/1500L/H this is exactly the risk of chilled cooling, applies to peltier as well. Good thing ur board is still workin. 6000L/H..damn you can wash car with that.. QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 18 2007, 03:27 PM) What is default chip voltage? Mine can go up to 1300-1400 without any issue. However, I don't seem experience better performance. The TLB errata applies to all Stars microarchtecture chips, not just in virtualisation (though its particularly problematic in that area). The errata is not caused by clockspeed, its due to circuit design and it will cause hangs at any clockspeed. Currently AMD has employed a microcode fix that works around the errata, but at a noticable performance penalty. My guess as to why AMD held back their highest end chips is because it makes no sense to release high end chips when you know you cannot get them to run at their fullest potential due to the errata workaround.Who has try OC Phenom to 3Ghz? I heard TLB errectra issue only persists in Virtualization environment esp in Opteron servers. QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 18 2007, 05:26 PM) i don know hw to check pwm temp la~~ Try everest. Never failed me in identifying sensors.3rd party software can check? Any DFI user can help? QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 05:39 PM) I think we cant check PWM temp. Not sure Not likely. PWM temp is usually listed as AUX. System temp is almost always the ambient temp of the air near the motherboard.But i always wondering what the system temp for which located in Smart Guardian. Is it PWM temp?? -pWs- |
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Dec 18 2007, 09:37 PM
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memset 3.3 beta 2 it's normal when i see memory give random read???
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Dec 18 2007, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 18 2007, 08:01 PM) Hei dblooi... all AMD 1600-LE is F3 stepping right? hi bios pro... mind to edit an9 bios to be red background? =) for amd cpu u always can check here http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUFilter.aspx yes it stated as F3 in 45watt =) Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Model Number LE-1600 Frequency (MHZ) 2200 L2 Cache Size (KB) 1024 Socket AM2 Stepping F3 Manufacturing Tech (CMOS) 90nm SOI Wattage (W) 45 W System Bus (MHZ) 2000 Cool stuff |
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Dec 18 2007, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(egoiste @ Dec 18 2007, 05:55 PM) thinking to buy x2 4000++...does it bottleneck 8800gt performance? Mine yes. Getting Winsdor 5600 F3 for testing these few days. Hoping to reach 3.1Ghz and above and do a comparison between current Brisbane. Best best is to wait for cheaper Phenom (price lowered down for B2 Rev). |
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Dec 18 2007, 10:02 PM
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haiya,those who use ballistix,see my ss, and do u guys stable at 2.17 vdimm with ram at ddr1100 timing 5-4-4-4-11-2T?mine only 5-4-4-5-11-2T..argh....hate it when my vdimm is limited
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Dec 18 2007, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 18 2007, 09:10 PM) Not likely. PWM temp is usually listed as AUX. System temp is almost always the ambient temp of the air near the motherboard. Bro lohwenli, This picture is taken from Everest. And the PWM listed is Aux as you said. Are this PWM temp? -pWs- |
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Dec 18 2007, 11:13 PM
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why dun go try the hwmonitor?
listed in ocmania.com download -> system monitoring... hwmonitor the best monitor that support abit uguru aswell =) |
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Dec 18 2007, 11:14 PM
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my F3 is limited to 3.45ghz only
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Dec 18 2007, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 11:14 PM) my F3 is limited to 3.45ghz only cannot stable over 3.45?i just change the an9 ver 1.0 to an9 ver 1.10... hope it helps me clock more more =) |
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Dec 18 2007, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 18 2007, 11:25 PM) cannot stable over 3.45? I think there two thing limits my OC,its the rams and proc. i just change the an9 ver 1.0 to an9 ver 1.10... hope it helps me clock more more =) |
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Dec 18 2007, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 18 2007, 11:51 PM) I think there two thing limits my OC,its the rams and proc. might share ur SS at that speed?i dont think ur ram is limit u so much~ |
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Dec 19 2007, 12:29 AM
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from what i tested... i know it is not ram limit me... but the cooling is the one ...
we are going no where around 3.4x with air cooling... but at this speed is the most stable clock the cpu can gain.... i can boot to windows with 3500mhz but cannot even prime... pump more vcore... pc auto shutdown... from my exp .. that is abit uguru is protecting me from killing the cpu by direct shut down the pc... the cpu temp cannot maintain at certain level... and it direct jump to to the cpu limit set in bios... something like your temp is 60'C and sudden go to 80'C only water cooling can go beyond that limit with unstable system in high clock =P |
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Dec 19 2007, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 10:13 PM) Bro lohwenli, That should be it. First line is probably the ambient temp measured at the surface of the motherboard (aka system temp). Your reading looks weird because of sensor inaccuracies and also because your system is idling. Normally processor temp and PWM is higher than system temp, but sometimes it just happens the area near the sensor has poor airflow. Also, the monitoring chip on most motherboards is not well known for accuracy.This picture is taken from Everest. And the PWM listed is Aux as you said. Are this PWM temp? -pWs- |
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I want to ask a simple question , planing to buy AMD X2 4000+ Brisbane but will it able to compete with AMD X2 5600+ or 6000+ if I overclock it to 3.0Ghz ?
I plan to invest more on graphic card maybe Ati 3870 par with AMD X2 4000+ but quite worry it'll bottleneck with the graphic card so I plan to overclock it. |
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Dec 19 2007, 03:18 AM
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Just my opinion.
If you wan oc, you need a lot of stuffs. 1st: You will need a decent cooler. 2nd: You will need a good ram and mobo. Ram speed slow performance drop. Mobo just go for Biostar TA690G. 3rd: You will need a good PSU for overclocking and support 3870. These are all i can think of. Bottleneck or not for this combination not sure -pWs- |
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 18 2007, 10:02 PM) haiya,those who use ballistix,see my ss, and do u guys stable at 2.17 vdimm with ram at ddr1100 timing 5-4-4-4-11-2T?mine only 5-4-4-5-11-2T..argh....hate it when my vdimm is limited Mine is stable at 5-3-3-3-2T @ 1066 2.55V.Have anyone use memset 3.4 Beta 3? Theres a lot more settings in it. 
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Dec 19 2007, 05:28 AM
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Wow....you use 1.44Vcore @ 3.2GHz??
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 19 2007, 05:28 AM) Wow....you use 1.44Vcore @ 3.2GHz?? I think its due to the voltage drop bro.I cant go beyond 3.1Ghz below 1.4Vcore. -pWs- |
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 19 2007, 08:16 AM) I think its due to the voltage drop bro.I cant go beyond 3.1Ghz below 1.4Vcore. no such thing.i already test all proc and confirm can hit 3.1GHz with 1.23V just checked my test report, your proc is 0737BPMW 0235 1.23v pass 3.1G pi 1M test without issue TA690G voltage drop is not up to that much, i'm using the same mobo to test all proc kindly check your settings again This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 19 2007, 08:38 AM |
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Dec 19 2007, 03:07 AM) I want to ask a simple question , planing to buy AMD X2 4000+ Brisbane but will it able to compete with AMD X2 5600+ or 6000+ if I overclock it to 3.0Ghz ? It will be hard for a brisbane to compete with a 6000 even at 3.0Ghz, but maybe with a 5600. The problem is that brisbane is at a 0.1Ghz disadvantage due to cache latency, and also those 2 processors have 1mbx2 cache while brisbane only has 512kbx2. Clocked 0.2Ghz higher than the 5600, brisbane might just pull up even with it.I plan to invest more on graphic card maybe Ati 3870 par with AMD X2 4000+ but quite worry it'll bottleneck with the graphic card so I plan to overclock it. |
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Dec 19 2007, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 19 2007, 04:00 AM) Mine is stable at 5-3-3-3-2T @ 1066 2.55V. i use beta 1 before tis.. almost same like beta 3.. maybe u shud try to look for 3.4 finale... almost same..Have anyone use memset 3.4 Beta 3? Theres a lot more settings in it.
acording to DB , 3.3 is the best.. so chose wut u think is the best |
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Dec 19 2007, 03:07 AM) I want to ask a simple question , planing to buy AMD X2 4000+ Brisbane but will it able to compete with AMD X2 5600+ or 6000+ if I overclock it to 3.0Ghz ? hoho.. brisbane is quite a good choice for a budget user. My advise is, try find a good RAM bro. I dont think brisby(even at 2.8Ghz) will bottleneck your GC watsoever. Even you can hit 3.0Ghz stable if you're lucky enuf. And the best part is, it's only rm210. I plan to invest more on graphic card maybe Ati 3870 par with AMD X2 4000+ but quite worry it'll bottleneck with the graphic card so I plan to overclock it. |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 19 2007, 11:09 AM) hoho.. brisbane is quite a good choice for a budget user. My advise is, try find a good RAM bro. I dont think brisby(even at 2.8Ghz) will bottleneck your GC watsoever. Even you can hit 3.0Ghz stable if you're lucky enuf. And the best part is, it's only rm210. bro why so low u put ur daily use?? put at the max 3.1 la.. so small gap vcore to feed |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:29 AM
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weh xixo,
aku xleh hit 3.5ghz... only 3.45 but dont pass spi1m here is my latest ss..cant get through 24secs yet at 3.426ghz Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 19 2007, 03:18 AM) Just my opinion. If you wan oc, you need a lot of stuffs. 1st: You will need a decent cooler. 2nd: You will need a good ram and mobo. Ram speed slow performance drop. Mobo just go for Biostar TA690G. 3rd: You will need a good PSU for overclocking and support 3870. These are all i can think of. Bottleneck or not for this combination not sure -pWs- QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 19 2007, 08:44 AM) It will be hard for a brisbane to compete with a 6000 even at 3.0Ghz, but maybe with a 5600. The problem is that brisbane is at a 0.1Ghz disadvantage due to cache latency, and also those 2 processors have 1mbx2 cache while brisbane only has 512kbx2. Clocked 0.2Ghz higher than the 5600, brisbane might just pull up even with it. QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 19 2007, 11:09 AM) hoho.. brisbane is quite a good choice for a budget user. My advise is, try find a good RAM bro. I dont think brisby(even at 2.8Ghz) will bottleneck your GC watsoever. Even you can hit 3.0Ghz stable if you're lucky enuf. And the best part is, it's only rm210. Thank you for the reply.I had limited choice of hardware to get at my area.It doesn't have Biostar TA690G , just only Asus M2A-VM.Cooler ,Cooler master stuff including thermal paste.Not much I could get.I just want a decent hardware which is better than P4 3.0Ghz and doesn't bottleneck with the current graphic card.Maybe getting a 3850 for normal gaming. Just want to ask , an AMD x64 4000+ 2.1Ghz stock speed can win P4 3.0Ghz at lease 10% ? Can I refer with this chart ? http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ ? or maybe a better chart I can refer ? |
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Added on December 19, 2007, 2:36 pm QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 19 2007, 11:15 AM) bro why so low u put ur daily use?? put at the max 3.1 la.. so small gap vcore to feed Why? bcoz at 2,835 i only use stock vcore and 945Mhz 4-4-3-8 ram @ 2.2V. If use at 3.1 Ghz, i've to add 0.075 vcore to make is stable AND have have to loosen timing to 5-5-5-12 at 1085Mhz @ 2.6 vdimm which only results in littlte gain of performance .So, in daily use i chose 2.835Mhz with no additional vcore added. Some time i go for 3.003Ghz at 1.35V and 1000Mhz 4-4-3-8 @ 2.4V which results better super pi value than 3.1 and 1085Mhz 5-5-5-12 . I sayang my hardware woo. Don want to push vcore for daily usage. This post has been edited by nadeng1987: Dec 19 2007, 02:38 PM |
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hmm..i wonder if the contact will be perfect if both mirror shine ..
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are u lapping your cpu?
put the sand paper on the mirror or glass.... and lap it (read from a guide in ocmania) that is the perfect contact u can get... but i never done it before... it will be awesome if someone can show any different temp between lap or not lap ... =) |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 19 2007, 04:27 PM) are u lapping your cpu? polish only....it's quite hard to lap because of the pins...if for 775 ..then it will be easier coz no pinsput the sand paper on the mirror or glass.... and lap it (read from a guide in ocmania) that is the perfect contact u can get... but i never done it before... it will be awesome if someone can show any different temp between lap or not lap ... =) |
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on another note, its actually easy to to lap Am2, shine itself wont do much good because basically what you want is to flat out the non-flat surface.
AM2 pins are rather sturdy and dense, just put 2 fingers to the pins and start lapping, the pins wont bent easily... its hard to explain how, take this for example, u drop a baloon on 1 needle and it will definately pop. But if MANY needles are arranged, they wont be able to break the baloon, more like pressure is balanced out to the pin masses. Anyways, you dont have to use too much force, just gently slide the proc, its easy to lap. Added on December 19, 2007, 4:47 pmoh, and start from 1200 grit, for mirror shine go for 2000grit This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 19 2007, 04:47 PM |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 19 2007, 12:29 AM) from what i tested... i know it is not ram limit me... but the cooling is the one ... you're wrong..i can reach 3.6 with air =Dwe are going no where around 3.4x with air cooling... but at this speed is the most stable clock the cpu can gain.... i can boot to windows with 3500mhz but cannot even prime... pump more vcore... pc auto shutdown... from my exp .. that is abit uguru is protecting me from killing the cpu by direct shut down the pc... the cpu temp cannot maintain at certain level... and it direct jump to to the cpu limit set in bios... something like your temp is 60'C and sudden go to 80'C only water cooling can go beyond that limit with unstable system in high clock =P Added on December 19, 2007, 4:54 pm QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 19 2007, 04:47 PM) on another note, its actually easy to to lap Am2, shine itself wont do much good because basically what you want is to flat out the non-flat surface. i know this...like one stick easier to break and many sticks hard to breakAM2 pins are rather sturdy and dense, just put 2 fingers to the pins and start lapping, the pins wont bent easily... its hard to explain how, take this for example, u drop a baloon on 1 needle and it will definately pop. But if MANY needles are arranged, they wont be able to break the baloon, more like pressure is balanced out to the pin masses. Anyways, you dont have to use too much force, just gently slide the proc, its easy to lap. This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 19 2007, 04:54 PM |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 19 2007, 04:27 PM) are u lapping your cpu? There is a difference, depending on how flat the IHS and heatsink surface originally was. Shininess comes secondary, not much effect between a perfectly flat, unpolished surface and mirror finished, also perfectly flat surface. I did a comparision a few years back while using my first 478 system, got a 3-5 degree drop. With the addition of a direct intake duct I could keep the processor within 5C of ambient at all times. And that was a processor with power consumption similar to the lowest end AM2 X2, 65W version.put the sand paper on the mirror or glass.... and lap it (read from a guide in ocmania) that is the perfect contact u can get... but i never done it before... it will be awesome if someone can show any different temp between lap or not lap ... =) I will be doing a long term comparision using some K8 stock heatsinks, will put up my results in a few months time (have a lot of comparisions to do). QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 19 2007, 04:52 PM) you're wrong..i can reach 3.6 with air =D Yeah, with AIR-con |
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 19 2007, 11:29 AM) weh xixo, posibbly psu or the setting.. maybe try to check it.. coz other setting seem ok.. n did u try to pump more vcore?? lower down ur divider first...aku xleh hit 3.5ghz... only 3.45 but dont pass spi1m here is my latest ss..cant get through 24secs yet at 3.426ghz QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 19 2007, 02:34 PM) Added on December 19, 2007, 2:36 pm Why? bcoz at 2,835 i only use stock vcore and 945Mhz 4-4-3-8 ram @ 2.2V. If use at 3.1 Ghz, i've to add 0.075 vcore to make is stable AND have have to loosen timing to 5-5-5-12 at 1085Mhz @ 2.6 vdimm which only results in littlte gain of performance . So, in daily use i chose 2.835Mhz with no additional vcore added. Some time i go for 3.003Ghz at 1.35V and 1000Mhz 4-4-3-8 @ 2.4V which results better super pi value than 3.1 and 1085Mhz 5-5-5-12 . I sayang my hardware woo. Don want to push vcore for daily usage. |
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 19 2007, 05:57 PM) posibbly psu or the setting.. maybe try to check it.. coz other setting seem ok.. n did u try to pump more vcore?? lower down ur divider first... psu ggbyte odin pro 550w x ok ker?i think bcoz of my ram...vdimm is limited,so i cant push all the way...try wif 533 juz now..cant boot..still tweaking to find the reason.. |
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Dec 19 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 19 2007, 04:22 PM) hmm..i wonder if the contact will be perfect if both mirror shine .. no wonder -8C, now i know the reason |
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Dec 19 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 19 2007, 04:52 PM) you're wrong..i can reach 3.6 with air =D 3.6 Vcore? u crazy? 1.5 vcore my pc wanna meletup doh... if using 3.6 what heatsink that one might be? @@ Added on December 19, 2007, 6:37 pm QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 19 2007, 04:39 PM) polish only....it's quite hard to lap because of the pins...if for 775 ..then it will be easier coz no pins Autosol?This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 19 2007, 06:37 PM |
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this is my little result
4000+, m2ne, team elite 667, stock hsf i saw different vcore in bios, everest ultimate and cpuz.. dont know which is the accurate one.. In bios: 1.31v In everest : 1.35v - 1.36v In cpuz : 1.168v - 1.184v This post has been edited by MyCJS01: Dec 19 2007, 06:49 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 19 2007, 06:51 PM
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you can refer to ur bios and everest..
why 2.6 only?should reach 2.7~2.8 easily |
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Dec 19 2007, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 19 2007, 06:51 PM) you can refer to ur bios and everest.. wanna change a better hsf first why 2.6 only?should reach 2.7~2.8 easily |
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Dec 19 2007, 07:01 PM
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In bios: 1.31v<<Better believe bios laaa
In everest : 1.35v - 1.36v<<Most likely In cpuz : 1.168v - 1.184v<<Impossible hehehe |
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Dec 19 2007, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 06:24 PM) no wonder -8C, now i know the reason this is before the polish now... duno whats the resultAdded on December 19, 2007, 7:16 pm QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 19 2007, 05:40 PM) Yeah, with AIR-con still air what Added on December 19, 2007, 7:17 pm QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 19 2007, 06:34 PM) 3.6 Vcore? u crazy? air i can use 1.6x..for awhile only la...... 1.5 vcore my pc wanna meletup doh... if using 3.6 what heatsink that one might be? @@ Added on December 19, 2007, 6:37 pm Autosol? what heatsink ah...lapped si-128 with panaflo 120mm fan yea..autosol..bought 1 tube..rm8.50 This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 19 2007, 07:17 PM |
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Dec 19 2007, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 08:37 AM) no such thing. I use high voltage cuz i cant boot 1.2V @ 3.2Ghz with HT 16++.. i already test all proc and confirm can hit 3.1GHz with 1.23V just checked my test report, your proc is 0737BPMW 0235 1.23v pass 3.1G pi 1M test without issue TA690G voltage drop is not up to that much, i'm using the same mobo to test all proc kindly check your settings again Only can boot with 1.2v 3.2Ghz with HT 9++ |
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Dec 19 2007, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Dec 19 2007, 06:48 PM) this is my little result is that your default vcore man? it looks creepy dude 4000+, m2ne, team elite 667, stock hsf i saw different vcore in bios, everest ultimate and cpuz.. dont know which is the accurate one.. In bios: 1.31v In everest : 1.35v - 1.36v In cpuz : 1.168v - 1.184v It shud be 1.296~1.3 for default vcore for brisby 4000+ |
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Dec 19 2007, 09:20 PM
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got more than 30 3800+ F3 users here,
but no one try this one? i'm followed by 8 china overclockers, scare scare 
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Dec 19 2007, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 09:20 PM) got more than 30 3800+ F3 users here, 有你代表可以了啊 哈哈 but no one try this one? i'm followed by 8 china overclockers, scare scare
China now is cool weather ... they have better and nice place to play the toy =P also got free negative temperature air-cond This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 19 2007, 09:36 PM |
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Dec 19 2007, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 09:20 PM) got more than 30 3800+ F3 users here, did i just see 7.xxxGhz!!?? but no one try this one? i'm followed by 8 china overclockers, scare scare
How on bloody hell does he manage to reach that?? |
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Dec 19 2007, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 19 2007, 09:55 PM) did i just see 7.xxxGhz!!?? program hack How on bloody hell does he manage to reach that?? |
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Dec 19 2007, 09:58 PM
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wow nice gem u got dblooi
keep it up. |
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Dec 19 2007, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 09:57 PM) program hack haha.. really? It's just so hard to believe sumone cud ever manage to reach 7 isnt it? . If try it on my brisby, i'l be the first to introduce cpu goreng on earth!(don think im the first tho. It shud be tons had done it oredi haha) |
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Dec 19 2007, 10:06 PM
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hey how you guys check your brisby temps since got temp problem on brisby
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Dec 19 2007, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 19 2007, 08:31 PM) is that your default vcore man? it looks creepy dude default vcore is 1.36v isn't it? It shud be 1.296~1.3 for default vcore for brisby 4000+ i reduce it till 1.3v.. |
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Dec 19 2007, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 19 2007, 10:06 PM) hey how you guys check your brisby temps since got temp problem on brisby Use everest 4.20.1170. Go and download it. Im using both CPUID and everest and both shows the actual temp correctly.Added on December 19, 2007, 10:14 pm QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Dec 19 2007, 10:07 PM) default vcore is 1.36v isn't it? Default is 1.296V brother. i reduce it till 1.3v.. This post has been edited by nadeng1987: Dec 19 2007, 10:14 PM |
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Dec 19 2007, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 19 2007, 10:05 PM) haha.. really? haha, sounds like i don't wanna accept the truth huh? It's just so hard to believe sumone cud ever manage to reach 7 isnt it? . If try it on my brisby, i'l be the first to introduce cpu goreng on earth!(don think im the first tho. It shud be tons had done it oredi haha) there's no way you can oc an am2 proc to 7G, trust me am2 proc has cold bug and you definitely cannot use LN2 cooling on it and CPU-server has remove his ranking in hall of fame check this out http://valid.x86-secret.com/records.php if his result is genuine , the world record of am2 highest clockspeed definitely not this one Nş 1 : SpeedTime-Wing reached 4263.65 MHz with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ |
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Dec 19 2007, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 10:19 PM) haha, sounds like i don't wanna accept the truth huh? 7.xxx quite a con result tho there's no way you can oc an am2 proc to 7G, trust me am2 proc has cold bug and you definitely cannot use LN2 cooling on it and CPU-server has remove his ranking in hall of fame check this out http://valid.x86-secret.com/records.php if his result is genuine , the world record of am2 highest clockspeed definitely not this one Nş 1 : SpeedTime-Wing reached 4263.65 MHz with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ nway, Is that the highest 6400+ can go bro? Not so impressive at all. Only 266 fsb? Maybe you're the one who shud try it la bro dblooi. Buy yourself a 6400+ and OC like MAD! Added on December 19, 2007, 10:53 pmNway, disis my super pi 1m result. This result actually varies. I tried just now cud get nearly 28 seconds(29.093s). Nevertheless, this is the result i posted. Hope there'll be more G1 users share their results here. Hope f3 users wont mind of my lacklustre result tho  This post has been edited by nadeng1987: Dec 19 2007, 10:54 PM |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 19 2007, 04:39 PM) polish only....it's quite hard to lap because of the pins...if for 775 ..then it will be easier coz no pins now still quite hard to lap, later no problem.....wait till we can find faulty AM2 940 cpu socket (cabut out the mobo CPU socket, or cut the mobo), then plug our germ in and start lapping till u syiok bro, faster test your lapped F3 see how many degree C drop If lower >5C I will lap kaw2 (not OC kaw2 )This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 19 2007, 11:06 PM |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:14 PM
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Guys, i have encountered a huge problem with my Biostar 690G. The latest Biostar bios doesnt want to go higher than 290 FSB. Can someone please recommend me a modded BIOS?
Appreciate it. Thanks. |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 19 2007, 10:06 PM) hey how you guys check your brisby temps since got temp problem on brisby QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 19 2007, 11:02 PM) now still quite hard to lap, later no problem.....wait till we can find faulty AM2 940 cpu socket (cabut out the mobo CPU socket, or cut the mobo), Hmm, I'm actually considering removing the IHS..but cannot..even though have no warranty to worry about..then plug our germ in and start lapping till u syiok bro, faster test your lapped F3 see how many degree C drop If lower >5C I will lap kaw2 (not OC kaw2 )Using XP-120, it will surely crack or chip the core when I mount it..if waterblock then no worry la.. |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 19 2007, 11:31 PM) Hmm, I'm actually considering removing the IHS..but cannot..even though have no warranty to worry about.. yalor, the core is quite fragile.... Using XP-120, it will surely crack or chip the core when I mount it..if waterblock then no worry la.. The mounting of XP-120 really a pain in axx, especially without remove the whole mobo This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 19 2007, 11:56 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 19 2007, 11:02 PM) now still quite hard to lap, later no problem.....wait till we can find faulty AM2 940 cpu socket (cabut out the mobo CPU socket, or cut the mobo), ehhh..u give me the idea damn good...now..where to find faulty mobo...then plug our germ in and start lapping till u syiok bro, faster test your lapped F3 see how many degree C drop If lower >5C I will lap kaw2 (not OC kaw2 )hahaha..i got no time to test la..these days bz..even ice also slowly do only.. |
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Dec 20 2007, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 20 2007, 12:18 AM) ehhh..u give me the idea damn good...now..where to find faulty mobo... that's why i said "later" mah...since most of the AM2 940 mobo still quite new and under warranty hahaha..i got no time to test la..these days bz..even ice also slowly do only.. won't take risk to break the F3 pins |
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Dec 20 2007, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 20 2007, 12:21 AM) that's why i said "later" mah...since most of the AM2 940 mobo still quite new and under warranty won't take risk to break the F3 pins and the f3 is like...not available anymore...except dblooi go and import again |
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Dec 20 2007, 02:00 AM
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F3 available... very cheap some more.. 1600-LE
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Dec 20 2007, 02:47 AM
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all 6000+ is F3 cpu with same stepping with the dblooi
but default 3ghz and 2mb cache .... =P Added on December 20, 2007, 2:50 am QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 20 2007, 02:00 AM) F3 available... very cheap some more.. 1600-LE cannot detect that cpu on the market yet... it is available now?if using 45watt cpu... maybe it is cooler... This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 20 2007, 02:51 AM |
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Dec 20 2007, 05:04 AM
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hi there.. i'm newbie in oc. hope all sifu can teach me how to oc my proc step by step.
Currently using amd 3500@2.2ghz, AC freezer 64 pro, 1gb x 2 kingston ddr2 667mhz, asus m2n32 sli deluxe, enermax liberty 500watt psu, |
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Dec 20 2007, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE(Milo_77 @ Dec 20 2007, 05:04 AM) hi there.. i'm newbie in oc. hope all sifu can teach me how to oc my proc step by step. Disable the cool and quiet in the biosCurrently using amd 3500@2.2ghz, AC freezer 64 pro, 1gb x 2 kingston ddr2 667mhz, asus m2n32 sli deluxe, enermax liberty 500watt psu, Get to know the voltage and vdimm, load up some cpu-z screen shot.we'll begin to help. |
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Dec 20 2007, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 20 2007, 12:52 AM) yalor, the core is quite fragile.... u have to used your thumb, fully force it to go in, while doing that, u are afraid will ruin other parts next to cpu.The mounting of XP-120 really a pain in axx, especially without remove the whole mobo really a pain in axx i must say.  |
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Dec 20 2007, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 20 2007, 02:00 AM) F3 available... very cheap some more.. 1600-LE ya... i saw it in xtreme system tooand i guess the oc ability of it is even greater than windsor F3 since it is single core proc, suppose to be easier to oc compare to dual core guys , check this out, pic steal from xtreme system F3 thread 
from the SS, this LE-1600 seems not so good ~1.6v needed in order to hit 3.4GHz wondering what if can get a good stepping 1 btw, thanks bro tictac for sharing the info, really dunno LE-1600 is F3 as well if you didn't tell me This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 20 2007, 08:40 AM |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 20 2007, 02:47 AM) all 6000+ is F3 cpu with same stepping with the dblooi Well, the 1mb cache of the 6000 is nice..but price but default 3ghz and 2mb cache .... =P Added on December 20, 2007, 2:50 am cannot detect that cpu on the market yet... it is available now? if using 45watt cpu... maybe it is cooler... Its cooler and has lower wattage cos its only single core..believe this or not, you can actually run most K8 single cores without a HSF, as long as you have a fan blowing on the IHS and do not load the thing for more than 15mins at once (enough to boot up cleanly). On idle it will not overheat, especially if CnQ is on. How I know this? It took more than 5 mins for my former F2 to reach 65C on idle when I removed the HSF during an experiment, and I didn't even have a fan blowing on it. Proves that the IHS is really doing its job, in absence of a HSF it prevents the processor from overheating rapidly, it becomes sort of a mini heatsink. |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 20 2007, 02:00 AM) F3 available... very cheap some more.. 1600-LE Whats the different btwn it and the normal F3?Besides the single core. |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:46 AM
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45W for 1600-LE IIANM
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Dec 20 2007, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 09:46 AM) 45W for 1600-LE IIANM 45W,erm seems to be great.Current F3 Is 90W rite?-pWs- Thats mean a single core only use 45W. Correct me if im wrong. In terms,of performance,to compare between Oced 1600LE and stock F3,which is better? |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 20 2007, 09:49 AM) 45W,erm seems to be great.Current F3 Is 90W rite? Nope. There are some F3 in 65W, 89W and 125W.Thats mean a single core only use 45W. Correct me if im wrong. In terms,of performance,to compare between Oced 1600LE and stock F3,which is better? For our 3800 F3, they are rated as 65W -pWs- |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 09:50 AM) Nope. There are some F3 in 65W, 89W and 125W. Ops,sorry out of topic,how to check whether my F3 is 65W,89W,or 125W.?For our 3800 F3, they are rated as 65W -pWs- Sorry newbie. |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:56 AM
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Ermmm...i normally take the processor code and search AMD website.
1600-LE: http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=81 -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 20 2007, 09:59 AM |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 20 2007, 09:54 AM) Ops,sorry out of topic,how to check whether my F3 is 65W,89W,or 125W.? ADX XXXX IAA X CZ , ADX = 125WSorry newbie. ADA XXXX IAA X CZ , ADA = 89W ADO XXXX IAA X CZ , ADO= 65W edited: CZ= windsor F3 CCB8F= king of F3 for now 
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Dec 20 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 09:56 AM) Ermmm...i normally take the processor code and search AMD website. Thanx for the link bro,gonna take out the HSF and look at the code. 1600-LE: http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=81 -pWs-  QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 20 2007, 10:22 AM) ADX XXXX IAA X CZ , ADX = 125W Who owns the king of F3 bro? ADA XXXX IAA X CZ , ADA = 89W ADO XXXX IAA X CZ , ADO= 65W edited: CZ= windsor F3 CCB8F= king of F3 for now
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Dec 20 2007, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 20 2007, 10:26 AM) Thanx for the link bro,gonna take out the HSF and look at the code. all proc from handpicked 3800 F3 v1 & v2 are CCB8F labeled Who owns the king of F3 bro? |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 20 2007, 10:29 AM) all proc from handpicked 3800 F3 v1 & v2 are CCB8F labeled Hehe,i mean all between the user bro.whose F3 is the king rite now? |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 20 2007, 10:31 AM) Hehe,i mean all between the user bro.whose F3 is the king rite now? honestly, i dunnono time to setup iced water cooling and oc all 30+ processors extremely b4 i sell them |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 20 2007, 10:35 AM) honestly, i dunno Haha..i will answer that your F3 is currently the fastest rite now. no time to setup iced water cooling and oc all 30+ processors extremely b4 i sell them |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:58 AM
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the fastest now is still dblooi
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Dec 20 2007, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 20 2007, 02:47 AM) all 6000+ is F3 cpu with same stepping with the dblooi 1600-LE ? You live in penang right... You know PC Depot? they got sell 1600-LE.. very cheap some more RM160 can getbut default 3ghz and 2mb cache .... =P Added on December 20, 2007, 2:50 am cannot detect that cpu on the market yet... it is available now? if using 45watt cpu... maybe it is cooler... Here PC Depot Website: http://www.pcdepot.com.my/ Download their pricelist... |
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Dec 20 2007, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(redken @ Dec 19 2007, 11:14 PM) Guys, i have encountered a huge problem with my Biostar 690G. The latest Biostar bios doesnt want to go higher than 290 FSB. Can someone please recommend me a modded BIOS? Some sifu please share bioses with me. Thanks.Appreciate it. Thanks. |
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Dec 20 2007, 11:37 AM
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Bios for TA690G
R69AMB26.BST <--Try google for it bro. This post has been edited by ocz: Dec 20 2007, 11:46 AM |
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 19 2007, 06:13 PM) psu ggbyte odin pro 550w x ok ker?i think bcoz of my ram...vdimm is limited,so i cant push all the way...try wif 533 juz now..cant boot..still tweaking to find the reason.. try lower to 400.. try oc back.. if very hard.. posibly ur psu man..QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 19 2007, 09:57 PM) program hack FYI, cpuz is the program that easy to hack.. so u can ur data of oc... then u upload it, n there is ur name in the top.. |
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 20 2007, 12:21 PM) FYI, cpuz is the program that easy to hack.. so u can ur data of oc... then u upload it, n there is ur name in the top.. like hacking a game....scan the value...then lock...then change all...then woooo...7ghz xD |
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 20 2007, 09:19 AM) Well, the 1mb cache of the 6000 is nice..but price Walau bro, without HSF also u test yr proc ah? Its cooler and has lower wattage cos its only single core..believe this or not, you can actually run most K8 single cores without a HSF, as long as you have a fan blowing on the IHS and do not load the thing for more than 15mins at once (enough to boot up cleanly). On idle it will not overheat, especially if CnQ is on. How I know this? It took more than 5 mins for my former F2 to reach 65C on idle when I removed the HSF during an experiment, and I didn't even have a fan blowing on it. Proves that the IHS is really doing its job, in absence of a HSF it prevents the processor from overheating rapidly, it becomes sort of a mini heatsink. Wanna test if the thermal shutdown protection working or not ah? |
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Dec 20 2007, 07:45 PM
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quote=ocz,Dec 20 2007, 05:08 AM]
Disable the cool and quiet in the bios Get to know the voltage and vdimm, load up some cpu-z screen shot.we'll begin to help. [/quote] ok sifu, this mine.. pls help [attachmentid=363579] |
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Dec 20 2007, 08:53 PM
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Do you mind list out your hardware as well?? Thanks
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Dec 20 2007, 09:02 PM
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[quote=-pWs-,Dec 20 2007, 08:53 PM]
Do you mind list out your hardware as well?? Thanks -pWs- here my rig... AMD 3500+@2200mhz AC freezer 64 pro Asus m2n32 sli deluxe 1gb X 2 kingston value DDR2 667mhz bfg 8800gts oc2 320mb enermax liberty 500watt |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:38 PM
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Elite
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As what I can see, I assume that your processor stock Vcore is 1.375 +-.
Here some steps for you to the journey of overclocking. 1. Manual set Vcore and Vdimm. Vcore = 1.4v & Vdimm = 1.8v 2. Set HT Link Multiplier to x4 3. Set Ram Divider to 533MHz & Ram Timing to 5-5-5-15-21-2T 4. Add HTT by 5 or 10MHz. Then Orthos to test stability for around 30 mins for each setting. 5. If error detected, add Vcore and Orthos again. P/S: 1. HT Link and HTT are different things. 2. For Orthos program, google it then you will find it 3. Please use CoreTemp to monitor the temp. Better keep under 60C If anything weird happen, please do post here -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 20 2007, 09:39 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:49 PM
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[quote=-pWs-,Dec 20 2007, 09:38 PM]
As what I can see, I assume that your processor stock Vcore is 1.375 +-. Here some steps for you to the journey of overclocking. 1. Manual set Vcore and Vdimm. Vcore = 1.4v & Vdimm = 1.8v 2. Set HT Link Multiplier to x4 3. Set Ram Divider to 533MHz & Ram Timing to 5-5-5-15-21-2T 4. Add HTT by 5 or 10MHz. Then Orthos to test stability for around 30 mins for each setting. 5. If error detected, add Vcore and Orthos again. P/S: 1. HT Link and HTT are different things. 2. For Orthos program, google it then you will find it 3. Please use CoreTemp to monitor the temp. Better keep under 60C If anything weird happen, please do post here -pWs- thanks for ur guide.. mybe try to oc tonight...just download the orthos program, but how to use it, what i mean is there is alot of stress options there. which one to use 1st anyway, thanks again:respect: This post has been edited by Milo_77: Dec 20 2007, 10:13 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:00 PM
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CODE [QUOTE] Reply goes here [/QUOTE] Do not delete the [/QUOTE] If everything is correct, should appear as below. QUOTE Reply goes here -pWs- |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:17 PM
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[quote=-pWs-,Dec 20 2007, 10:00 PM]
CODE [QUOTE] Reply goes here [/QUOTE] Do not delete the [/QUOTE] If everything is correct, should appear as below. -pWs- [/quote] refer to the orthos program, which one should be stress 1st?? This post has been edited by Milo_77: Dec 20 2007, 10:19 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 20 2007, 06:59 PM) Walau bro, without HSF also u test yr proc ah? Something like that..don't try it on those Athlons without IHS though..Wanna test if the thermal shutdown protection working or not ah? |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:26 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(Milo_77 @ Dec 20 2007, 10:17 PM) If everything is correct, should appear as below. Blend would be nice -pWs- refer to the orthos program, which one should be stress 1st?? -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 20 2007, 10:27 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 11:07 PM
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Dec 20 2007, 11:28 PM
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Elite
8,545 posts Joined: Aug 2006 From: 224.0.0.6
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Modded BIOS link for Biostar TA690G and DFI Inf UltraII-m2 already added to the second post on the first page.
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Dec 20 2007, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 11:28 PM) Modded BIOS link for Biostar TA690G and DFI Inf UltraII-m2 already added to the second post on the first page. Nicely done bro,I think we need a lot more and more use full links. -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 12:50 AM
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Elite
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Any idea? Let me know if you guys got any opinion.
Thanks -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:32 AM
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just finished oc my rig. bro pws, got question here. how to increase my dram frequency
. the orthos stress error in 43 minute. should increase the vcore somemore?? [attachmentid=363761] [attachmentid=363762] |
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Dec 21 2007, 02:21 AM
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who else can bring in the F3 gems ? ........
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Dec 21 2007, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Dec 21 2007, 02:21 AM) who else can bring in the F3 gems ? ........ Theres a forumer selling it in the garage sales.  |
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Dec 21 2007, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Dec 21 2007, 02:21 AM) who else can bring in the F3 gems ? ........ one and only....dblooi |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Dec 21 2007, 02:21 AM) who else can bring in the F3 gems ? ........ direct go get 6400+ guarantee clock 99 ...all amd top cpu mostly are picked before dblooi version .. hehe all cpu comes in batch and preselected and assign the clock maybe i sell this cpu if got phenom choice in future but not now..looks like 9600 phenom black edition is a solid choice to buy oc hits 3ghz stable... |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(Milo_77 @ Dec 21 2007, 01:32 AM) just finished oc my rig. bro pws, got question here. how to increase my dram frequency Ram Freq is increased too by pumping HTT. . the orthos stress error in 43 minute. should increase the vcore somemore?? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Still remember you use Ram Divider 533MHz. If you use this divider, at your stock Clock Speed, your Ram Freq @ CPU-z will be 244.5 instead of 314.5. Now, look back the screenies you just uploaded. You already increase the Ram Freq from 244.5MHz to 305.6MHz. So, conclusion is HTT increase, Ram Freq increase If Orthos error, for you case, your ram have not overclocked yet, increase one step of Vcore. And of course, Orthos again to ensure stability. -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 21 2007, 07:42 AM) direct go get 6400+ guarantee clock 99 ... Wow..3GHz stable. How bout the Errata issue when oc to the speed?all amd top cpu mostly are picked before dblooi version .. hehe all cpu comes in batch and preselected and assign the clock maybe i sell this cpu if got phenom choice in future but not now..looks like 9600 phenom black edition is a solid choice to buy oc hits 3ghz stable... -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 07:45 AM) Wow..3GHz stable. How bout the Errata issue when oc to the speed? still got that issue in b2 core...-pWs- they disable the TLB errata to gain that speed... only B3 core in Q1 2008 is gonna release without that bug... that's all i read ... hope AMD do comes back .... personally never touch phenom before |
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Dec 21 2007, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 20 2007, 11:37 AM) is this B26 an official Biostar BIOS? Coz the problem is i dun have a floppy drive at the moment, i had to flash in windows.  I am currently stuck with corrupted graphics with Official B15 bios. Sux. |
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Dec 21 2007, 08:45 AM
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Dec 21 2007, 10:30 AM
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Dec 21 2007, 10:35 AM
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Guys, I gotten my 5600+ F3. It start with CCB8F 0746APMW. Model: ADA5600IAA6CZ. Is it a good proc? Will post results tomorrow after OC kau kau.
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Dec 21 2007, 11:24 AM
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Any sifu can help me with my corrupted graphics problem with TA690G@official bios B15? Is it bios or software related? Please help.
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Dec 21 2007, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 21 2007, 10:30 AM) here's a clearer version of the 3G phenom Pi 1M result 
edited: that one is ES proc, now check this out retail product of phenom X4 9500 at 2.7G super pi 1M is 27. 875s the memory benchmark shows that it even lose to K8 am2 processor 
bro pws, maybe you wanna check this out. at 2.7G with AMD HD 3850 , 114353Dmarks in 3Dmark06( check oc detail from SS) 
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Dec 21 2007, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 07:44 AM) Ram Freq is increased too by pumping HTT. what is the maximum value of the vcore?? so in my case the ram freq has been increased. i just increased the HTT to 250 and cpu freq to 250 and multiply by 11. is this ok?? another question, why should use the 533mhz ram divider instead of 667mhz?? Still remember you use Ram Divider 533MHz. If you use this divider, at your stock Clock Speed, your Ram Freq @ CPU-z will be 244.5 instead of 314.5. Now, look back the screenies you just uploaded. You already increase the Ram Freq from 244.5MHz to 305.6MHz. So, conclusion is HTT increase, Ram Freq increase If Orthos error, for you case, your ram have not overclocked yet, increase one step of Vcore. And of course, Orthos again to ensure stability. -pWs- anyway thanks again This post has been edited by Milo_77: Dec 21 2007, 11:45 AM |
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Dec 21 2007, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(Milo_77 @ Dec 21 2007, 11:41 AM) what is the maximum value of the vcore?? so in my case the ram freq has been increased. i just increased the HTT to 250 and cpu freq to 250 and multiply by 11. is this ok?? another question, why should use the 533mhz ram divider instead of 667mhz?? Maximum value of Vcore depend on your temperature. Make sure it is below 60 degree when Orthos ING. anyway thanks again For the Ram Divider, if you use 667 divider, then your ram will be 786MHz which meant you already overclock your ram for 2650MHz clock speed. And yes, you can use 667Mhz divider but in your case, you need to add some Vdimm to get to 786MHz. -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 21 2007, 11:53 AM |
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Dec 21 2007, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 21 2007, 11:26 AM) bro pws, maybe you wanna check this out. Haha..cannot compare la. Phenom le. at 2.7G with AMD HD 3850 , 114353Dmarks in 3Dmark06( check oc detail from SS) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I think my processor still bottlenecking the 3850 Later go back overclock F3 more and see. -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 11:49 AM) Maximum value of Vcore depend on your temperature. Make sure it is below 60 degree when Orthos ING. if wanna use the 667 ram divider, what is the timing for ram. just same as 533 ram divider?? you say that to get 786mhz must add Vdimm. how much to increase? For the Ram Divider, if you use 667 divider, then your ram will be 786MHz which meant you already overclock your ram for 2650MHz clock speed. And yes, you can use 667Mhz divider but in your case, you need to add some Vdimm to get to 786MHz. -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Milo_77 @ Dec 21 2007, 12:04 PM) if wanna use the 667 ram divider, what is the timing for ram. just same as 533 ram divider?? you say that to get 786mhz must add Vdimm. how much to increase? That one you have to figure yourself. I cannot tell you how much Vdimm need to be added. And for the Ram Timing, you can play w it too. Google Ram Timing and study on it -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:03 PM
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hmmm..i just sold my toys...got some $ now...plan to get a cooler and graphic card....got what graphic card n cooler nice ah?? the wat...xigmatek good ah?
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Dec 21 2007, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 21 2007, 01:03 PM) hmmm..i just sold my toys...got some $ now...plan to get a cooler and graphic card....got what graphic card n cooler nice ah?? the wat...xigmatek good ah? Cooler go for Xigmatek.GC how much your budget? Nvidia or ATI?? -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 11:53 AM) Haha..cannot compare la. Phenom le. try to focus on overclock the ram and HT link instead of raising the cpu clockspeed I think my processor still bottlenecking the 3850 Later go back overclock F3 more and see. -pWs- maybe there will be a big difference |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 01:05 PM) Cooler go for Xigmatek. nvidia or ati better and cheaper?GC how much your budget? Nvidia or ATI?? -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 21 2007, 01:50 PM) try to focus on overclock the ram and HT link instead of raising the cpu clockspeed I think i better make the ram timing tight. See how it goes first maybe there will be a big difference Thanks for suggestion -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 21 2007, 01:53 PM) nvidia or ati better and cheaper? How much your budget? FPS go for Nvidia. Image go for ATI. Not sure this theory still work or not. But for me, I confirm choose ATI because me hard AMD fanboy -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 02:11 PM) How much your budget? i want to use for gaming and oc....but i duno which is...value for money =D FPS go for Nvidia. Image go for ATI. Not sure this theory still work or not. But for me, I confirm choose ATI because me hard AMD fanboy -pWs- anyways i'm nvidia fanboy oh ya...my iced watercooling overclock gonna start again...this time...double the amount of ice and smaller pieces of ice... last time i break it downstairs then all harden back to the pail shape =.= waste time to try to sepatare |
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Dec 21 2007, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 21 2007, 02:15 PM) i want to use for gaming and oc....but i duno which is...value for money =D Then go for 8800GT ..no regret anyways i'm nvidia fanboy oh ya...my iced watercooling overclock gonna start again...this time...double the amount of ice and smaller pieces of ice... last time i break it downstairs then all harden back to the pail shape =.= waste time to try to sepatare Wow... aim for 3.9GHz?? -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 04:02 PM
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bro pws, got question here. how long to run the orthos program. currently still running the program, 2 hours and 7 minutes with no errors..
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Dec 21 2007, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Milo_77 @ Dec 21 2007, 04:02 PM) bro pws, got question here. how long to run the orthos program. currently still running the program, 2 hours and 7 minutes with no errors.. As long as possible -pWs- |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 02:18 PM) Then go for 8800GT ..no regret 8800gt ah? how much... Wow... aim for 3.9GHz?? -pWs- haha...if can i want 4g =x...but i change motherboard first... come come support http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=54&t=595534&st=0 |
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Dec 21 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 21 2007, 02:25 AM) Theres a forumer selling it in the garage sales. Acecombat is selling his off, from dblooi's bulk..Last chance to ever get one.. QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 02:11 PM) How much your budget? It still sort of works out, but the image quality thing now a bit hard to say if gaming. But in video & HD decoding, ATi pawns Nvidia big time. FPS go for Nvidia. Image go for ATI. Not sure this theory still work or not. But for me, I confirm choose ATI because me hard AMD fanboy -pWs- |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:39 AM
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Add me as F3 user. 1st attempt but it seem I set Vcore too high. Any recommended Vcore here?
AMD 5600+ F3 | capriodimitri | M2N32 Sli Deluxe | Corsair Twin 2X CL5 | Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Advise for M2N32 Sli Deluxe user, DO NOT upgrade BIOS to 1503 unless you are running Phenom. There are several major bugs in it. It lock HT Link as 1X, PCI-E has bandwidth issue, cause extreme loss of graphic performance. My 3D Mark 06 drop to 6200 from 9300. After flash back, I manage to break own record to 10800. [attachmentid=364245] Any advise for me to OC this proc kau kau? Not my proc, can do whatever I like, keke. This post has been edited by capriodimitri: Dec 22 2007, 01:17 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:44 AM
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image quality actually ati is the king... well known ATI
high fps nvidia is the king... lower cpu usage for hddvd / bluray playing... even mpeg2... ati is the king... less driver issue is ATI... always driver problem nvidia... i am nvidia user and ati user before... that's what i know... Added on December 22, 2007, 12:46 am QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 22 2007, 12:39 AM) Add me as F3 user. 1st attempt but it seem I set Vcore too high. Any recommended Vcore here? i think u dun even need to pump vcore on that speed..Advise for M2N32 Sli Deluxe user, DO NOT upgrade BIOS to 1503 unless you are running Phenom. There are several major bugs in it. It lock HT Link as 1X, PCI-E has bandwidth issue, cause extreme loss of graphic performance. My 3D Mark 06 drop to 6200 from 9300. After flash back, I manage to break own record to 10800. [attachmentid=364245] Any advise for me to OC this proc kau kau? Not my proc, can do whatever I like, keke. This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 22 2007, 12:46 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:58 AM
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Elite
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@ capriodimitri
Please follow the rules. Kindly please provide me the details. Template: CODE Processor Model | LYN Nick | Mobo Model | Ram Type | Cooler Model Thanks -pWs- |
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Dec 22 2007, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 11:28 PM) Modded BIOS link for Biostar TA690G and DFI Inf UltraII-m2 already added to the second post on the first page. bro, UII-m2 modded BIOS what is the diff? Advantages?-pWs- Added on December 22, 2007, 1:17 am QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 21 2007, 02:15 PM) ..................................... he is aiming for 4GHz.... oh ya...my iced watercooling overclock gonna start again...this time...double the amount of ice and smaller pieces of ice... last time i break it downstairs then all harden back to the pail shape =.= waste time to try to sepatare right bro dj? This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 22 2007, 01:17 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 22 2007, 01:16 AM) bro, UII-m2 modded BIOS what is the diff? Advantages? You can view to the page. Everything is well-explained there. For latest modded bios, they add few more ram timing options like MAL, tRef and so on -pWs- |
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Dec 22 2007, 02:05 AM
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Hello may i know what is HT voltage regulator?In o/c need to adjust RAM volt and CPU volt......then other?
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Dec 22 2007, 02:09 AM
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My last stable overclock to use 24 hours /7 days
vore 1.475... wrong reading from cpu-z This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 22 2007, 02:10 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 22 2007, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 02:05 AM) Hello may i know what is HT voltage regulator?In o/c need to adjust RAM volt and CPU volt......then other? Normally I do not touch other voltages.You can if and only if u wan to go extreme -pWs- |
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Dec 22 2007, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 02:09 AM) My last stable overclock to use 24 hours /7 days bro, u plan to use for 7/24 ah?vore 1.475... wrong reading from cpu-z CPU Temp look quite high wor...60C?? full load? This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 22 2007, 02:28 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 22 2007, 02:27 AM) bro, u plan to use for 7/24 ah? consider low for me... heheCPU Temp look quite high wor...60C?? full load? yup plan use this for 24 hours... no shut down.... normal use... never reach that heat also.... |
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Dec 22 2007, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 02:21 AM) Normally I do not touch other voltages. oic.Meant other voltage wont affact the stability of the system?But now i set 1.4625V 267x10.5 2.3Vdimm 400Mhz 4 4 4 12.It's stable.But i tried to push up more it cant stable to pass orthos run and booting up system.I shld adding by where?You can if and only if u wan to go extreme -pWs- |
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Dec 22 2007, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 02:43 AM) oic.Meant other voltage wont affact the stability of the system?But now i set 1.4625V 267x10.5 2.3Vdimm 400Mhz 4 4 4 12.It's stable.But i tried to push up more it cant stable to pass orthos run and booting up system.I shld adding by where? amd cpu have the limit... pushing more vcore that doesn't even help improve the stability of it means u just hit the wall.... u can drop the clock and prime until u can find the stable clock it can support... drop vcore slowly and prime to find the best vcore for it.... i already tested a lot 4000+ and they almost dun like to climb to 3ghz stage.... 5000+ black edition might be the nice upgrade to gain 3.2ghz with multiplier change to 16x i just tested 5000+ just now and it can even go to windows with 3.0ghz without adding vcore but no futher test... 3.2ghz can boot with default vcore but blue screen at windows means it want more more vcore This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 22 2007, 04:30 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 09:25 AM
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Add me xD
 AMD Athlon X2 4000+ G1 | noobianz | Biostar TF560 A2+ | Corsair Value Ram DDR667 | 560mhz effective | 5-5-5-15 | 9.5cm fan mounted on custom heatsink This post has been edited by noobianz: Dec 22 2007, 10:04 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 09:27 AM
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Kindly please provide me the details.
Template: CODE Processor Model | LYN Nick | Mobo Model | Ram Type | Ram Speed | Ram Timing | Cooler Model It is better to provide the details for me as you might not update the signature. Thanks -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 22 2007, 09:30 AM |
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Dec 22 2007, 09:46 AM
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Boss, you didn't correct my stats in the list
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Dec 22 2007, 09:52 AM
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Ok bro...I thought i told you will change for you next update
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Dec 22 2007, 10:10 AM
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Opppppsss my bad... Slow internet connection... slow to update list.. haihhh.. sorry
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Dec 22 2007, 10:13 AM
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Thanks for the reminder.
Maybe tired already ..never notice that. Will get it down as soon as possible For who want to edit to database, last kind reminder I will ignore who do not fulfil the requirement. Dun wan keep myself repeating here. Thanks -pWs- |
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Dec 22 2007, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 09:52 AM) Ok bro...I thought i told you will change for you next update I didn't receive your reply, guess it got lost or something. But thanks anyway.-pWs- QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 10:13 AM) Thanks for the reminder. Never mind..we'll remind them for you.Maybe tired already ..never notice that. Will get it down as soon as possible For who want to edit to database, last kind reminder I will ignore who do not fulfil the requirement. Dun wan keep myself repeating here. Thanks -pWs- Right guys? |
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Dec 22 2007, 10:38 AM
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Thanks
Does Vcore gain stability for ram also?? Any idea? -pWs- |
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 21 2007, 11:26 AM) here's a clearer version of the 3G phenom Pi 1M result but if can get like f3 version now.. i mybe think to change to it.. dont like higher vcore..
edited: that one is ES proc, now check this out retail product of phenom X4 9500 at 2.7G super pi 1M is 27. 875s the memory benchmark shows that it even lose to K8 am2 processor
bro pws, maybe you wanna check this out. at 2.7G with AMD HD 3850 , 114353Dmarks in 3Dmark06( check oc detail from SS)
QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 02:05 AM) Hello may i know what is HT voltage regulator?In o/c need to adjust RAM volt and CPU volt......then other? i think it's more like to stable ur oc when u push ur HTT..correct if worng |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 04:27 AM) amd cpu have the limit... pushing more vcore that doesn't even help improve the stability of it means u just hit the wall.... oic.Hmm what the best voltage shld i apply to hit 3.0Ghz?But i tried 1.4625V it cant boot up 2.8Ghz but at 1.475V it can boot up lolzu can drop the clock and prime until u can find the stable clock it can support... drop vcore slowly and prime to find the best vcore for it.... i already tested a lot 4000+ and they almost dun like to climb to 3ghz stage.... 5000+ black edition might be the nice upgrade to gain 3.2ghz with multiplier change to 16x i just tested 5000+ just now and it can even go to windows with 3.0ghz without adding vcore but no futher test... 3.2ghz can boot with default vcore but blue screen at windows means it want more more vcore QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:42 AM) but if can get like f3 version now.. i mybe think to change to it.. dont like higher vcore.. I wanna try but i have no information about it.Nvr dare to try now.I am newb lolzi think it's more like to stable ur oc when u push ur HTT..correct if worng |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 11:25 AM) oic.Hmm what the best voltage shld i apply to hit 3.0Ghz?But i tried 1.4625V it cant boot up 2.8Ghz but at 1.475V it can boot up lolz there is no definition of best voltage.. just make sure u didnt exceed 60c n it consider safe.. (when orthos only)I wanna try but i have no information about it.Nvr dare to try now.I am newb lolz if u dont know wut r u doing, just leave it at default.. |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:30 AM
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Bro pls update mine ~ for stable use
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Dec 22 2007, 11:35 AM
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vcore?? tinggi nyer.. why use 9??
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Dec 22 2007, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 22 2007, 11:35 AM) vcore?? tinggi nyer.. why use 9?? Wonder why i using 667 devider @ 10multiper, it cant boot even at 260 bus speed but when i lower the multiple to 9.5 it can boot even at 336 bus speed@ 3.2Ghz but the super pi is damm slow only 36s@1m after that i try lower again to 9 multiple @ 336 bus speed @ 3.0Ghz, the SP result is better than 9.5 multiple @ 30s@1m BTW the MAL ,Trd n other timing how to set is better? |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 22 2007, 11:35 AM) vcore?? tinggi nyer.. why use 9?? maybe he wanna form a beautiful figure333 HTT, 1000 HT link bro tachlio, your vcore why set to so high? your proc can do 3.3G prime stable adi with that vcore |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 11:41 AM) maybe he wanna form a beautiful figure tat make me feel weird.. they seem like high vcore 333 HTT, 1000 HT link bro tachlio, your vcore why set to so high? your proc can do 3.3G prime stable adi with that vcore more vcore less money.. |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 11:41 AM) maybe he wanna form a beautiful figure don know why i set 1.275vcore got got problem when load to window~333 HTT, 1000 HT link bro tachlio, your vcore why set to so high? your proc can do 3.3G prime stable adi with that vcore so i set to 1.3 it is ok~ later when have time i try again~ coz the ram i still no time to tweak yet all direct choose loosen 1st |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 22 2007, 11:47 AM) don know why i set 1.275vcore got got problem when load to window~ change to the modded bios adi?so i set to 1.3 it is ok~ later when have time i try again~ coz the ram i still no time to tweak yet all direct choose loosen 1st your mobo got problem with oc ram, need suitable bios only can oc properly about ram tweak, you can check my posts in V3 last few pages... i share with alive88 and few guys here b4 |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 11:50 AM) change to the modded bios adi? ya using the Modded bios by -pWs-your mobo got problem with oc ram, need suitable bios only can oc properly about ram tweak, you can check my posts in V3 last few pages... i share with alive88 and few guys here b4 don know why 667@10 mutiple stuck at 260 busspeed only~ BTW the Trfc for each ram, Mal, refresh mode N trd how to choose when start OC? This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 22 2007, 12:05 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 22 2007, 12:03 PM) ya using the Modded bios by -pWs- trfc set to 75ns, MAL set tp 8 or 9, refresh rate use 3,9us don know why 667@10 mutiple stuck at 260 busspeed only~ BTW the Trfc for each ram, Mal, refresh mode N trd how to choose when start OC? 2600/6= 433 your ram just oc a bit only, what's the ram timings that u use during that time? This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 22 2007, 12:27 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 12:26 PM) trfc set to 75ns, MAL set tp 8 or 9, refresh rate use 3,9us 667 lolz~ 2600/6= 433 your ram just oc a bit only, what's the ram timings that u use during that time? it can do 336x9.5 n 336 x9 but cant even pass 260x10 |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:43 PM
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How bout 533 divider? Can pass 260 HTT??
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Dec 22 2007, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 22 2007, 12:42 PM) 667 lolz~ don't use 9.5 multi , low performanceit can do 336x9.5 n 336 x9 but cant even pass 260x10 i meant what's ur ram timings when you oc 260X10 that time 5-5-5-15-2T? |
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Dec 22 2007, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 12:43 PM) How bout 533 divider? Can pass 260 HTT?? ya 533 can even OC till 3.5@10 mutiple no problem-pWs- Added on December 22, 2007, 12:59 pm QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 12:44 PM) don't use 9.5 multi , low performance ya...i meant what's ur ram timings when you oc 260X10 that time 5-5-5-15-2T? will ram timing affect it?? coz i set too loose? This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 22 2007, 12:59 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 01:47 PM
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I would say that is divider problem.
My DFI also giving me problem in divider. For my case, I cannot achieve more than 3000MHz [10Multi] for 533 divider -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 22 2007, 01:48 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 10:38 AM) Thanks I'm not sure, but I have an experience which points to the possibility. Back when I was underclocking my F2, I pushed the vcore as far as I could go, but the processor quickly got unstable at anything but the lowest speeds. The strange thing was, at the unstable point, the ram was heavily underclocked, but the stability tests that it kept failing had everything to do with ram. Stability tests that didn't stress ram could pass for days with no problems.Does Vcore gain stability for ram also?? Any idea? -pWs- Here's a quick breakdown. At stock speed, I could run at around 0.950V and at least boot to windows, but only around 1.025v would it pass CPU stability tests happily BUT it would still fail memory tests regardless of what vDimm I pumped (I didn't touch timings though, ram running at stock timings & frequency). Only at 1.125 would it be 100% stable. |
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add me bro
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 22 2007, 03:00 PM) add me bro Why your core voltage is so low?Mine at least 1.475 oni can boot 2.8Ghz. = =3800 f3@3091.8ghz | alive88 | TF590SLi | Crucial Ballistix PC6400 | 1030 | 5-4-4-5-11-2T | Stock |
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Dec 22 2007, 05:36 PM
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hmm...using 3850 now
and use vista already...problem is i cannot use ati tool =x...and my graphic card feels hot...how to check the temp? |
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 05:28 PM) Why your core voltage is so low?Mine at least 1.475 oni can boot 2.8Ghz. = = probably you have no idea about what is F3 windsor alive88's vcore is consider too high adi for him to do 3.0GHz check this out, what can a F3 windsor do at 1.475v Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 06:06 PM) probably you have no idea about what is F3 windsor OMG....Izit brisby sux?...BTW the RAM Vdimm how many ? 583Mhz.. alive88's vcore is consider too high adi for him to do 3.0GHz check this out, what can a F3 windsor do at 1.475v |
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Dec 22 2007, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 08:21 PM) OMG....Izit brisby sux?...BTW the RAM Vdimm how many ? 583Mhz.. vdimm? Max pumpedbut actually i can do it with 2.25v my 10th can do 1200Mhz with ~2.3v |
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Dec 22 2007, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 08:21 PM) OMG....Izit brisby sux?...BTW the RAM Vdimm how many ? 583Mhz.. F3 is the real gem for AMD lor...G1 is another testing proc by amd i guess. the G2 is better.. |
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Dec 22 2007, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 06:06 PM) probably you have no idea about what is F3 windsor my cpu cannot gain any stability over 3.4.... any other push will prime fail... alive88's vcore is consider too high adi for him to do 3.0GHz check this out, what can a F3 windsor do at 1.475v cannot boot to 3.5 but pc also shut down.... must be heatsink cannot tahan sudden peak of temp... QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 22 2007, 08:30 PM) F3 is the real gem for AMD lor...G1 is another testing proc by amd i guess. the G2 is better.. i think b1 and b2 is da same cpu... only b2 can clock higher only...the cpu cache latency for both is same speed.... |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 08:45 PM) my cpu cannot gain any stability over 3.4.... any other push will prime fail... maybe its time to go for watercooling?? following AoiNatsume steps??cannot boot to 3.5 but pc also shut down.... must be heatsink cannot tahan sudden peak of temp... i think b1 and b2 is da same cpu... only b2 can clock higher only... the cpu cache latency for both is same speed.... i thought got improvement for the later proc?? inaccurated temp readings solved?? |
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Dec 22 2007, 09:00 PM
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..........Anyway i can boot up at 3.0Ghz but cant pass orthos test and SuperPI test... i am wicked sick.
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bro, add me to ur list...
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 22 2007, 08:58 PM) maybe its time to go for watercooling?? following AoiNatsume steps?? wait i rich 1st hehe...i thought got improvement for the later proc?? inaccurated temp readings solved?? black edition temp reading is also wrong from what i know =X but someone manage to clock it to 3.4 ... i dunno that is stable clock or not =X |
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Dec 22 2007, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 09:00 PM) ..........Anyway i can boot up at 3.0Ghz but cant pass orthos test and SuperPI test... i am wicked sick. bro, what's ur temperature when u use 2.8GHz 1.475vcore? can show a SS ? interested to know thanks |
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 22 2007, 08:58 PM) maybe its time to go for watercooling?? following AoiNatsume steps?? Dunno about temp, but the power consumption is i thought got improvement for the later proc?? inaccurated temp readings solved?? When both are at 3Ghz, a Brisbane G2 takes about half the power of a Windsor (less than 80W). Use stock heatsink also can overclock quite high for G2. Only one downside, must overclock 0.1Ghz more than Windsor to match Windsor's performance. |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 09:32 PM) wait i rich 1st hehe... no doubt G2 got better clockspeed than G1. but without proper temp reading, make me feels worried all the time..black edition temp reading is also wrong from what i know =X but someone manage to clock it to 3.4 ... i dunno that is stable clock or not =X can using old timer method, by touching the heatsink. but for me its kinda hassle... QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 22 2007, 09:42 PM) Dunno about temp, but the power consumption is power consumption for G2 sure lower. yeah, due to longer latency (correct me if i'm wrong), have to oc it 0.1ghz higher to match windsor... When both are at 3Ghz, a Brisbane G2 takes about half the power of a Windsor (less than 80W). Use stock heatsink also can overclock quite high for G2. Only one downside, must overclock 0.1Ghz more than Windsor to match Windsor's performance. |
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Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM
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the latency is more giving it to clock more higher....
same as ram latency... u may see why ddr3 latency so high with higher mhz... it is due to 65nm technologies... more smaller capacitor less heat... This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 22 2007, 10:38 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM
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phenom 9600 black overclock to 3GHz stably
(but wait, check the vcore )This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 22 2007, 11:05 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 22 2007, 10:52 PM
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bro dblooi,is it 3.1ghz at 1.275v high?
coz if my fsb is 314(3.14ghz)1.275 vcore.already not stable ive tried to boot 3.4 at 1.350vcore.pass sper pi 1m..only once.. This post has been edited by alive88: Dec 22 2007, 10:54 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:52 PM) bro dblooi,is it 3.1ghz at 1.275v high? HTT 314? Orthos ? no idea as i never test that b4 for ur proc coz if my fsb is 314(3.14ghz)1.275 vcore.already not stable ive tried to boot 3.4 at 1.350vcore.pass sper pi 1m..only once.. only test stability of those proc with Pi 1M This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 22 2007, 11:04 PM |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:21 PM
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ya lor..with orthos cant pass..1.275 is ok..honestly never try wif 1.25..1.2v also cant even boot bro..dont know why..mybe vdimm too low can affect or not?
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Dec 22 2007, 11:21 PM
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Just read one review for intel Dual Core and Quad Core Q66.
Forgot what the model for Dual Core For Quad Core, it take almost double power consumption as Dual Core. I think the same goes to Phenom Not sure though. HeheIf want to go Quad, prepare money for electric bill as well. Hahahahah -pWs- |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM) the latency is more giving it to clock more higher.... my statement b4 correct what..i mean the diff performance between the brisbane and windsor is caused by the latency.have to clock 0.1ghz higher for brisbane.same as ram latency... u may see why ddr3 latency so high with higher mhz... it is due to 65nm technologies... more smaller capacitor less heat... with smaller caps, does that means more caps can be stuffed inside the die?? means the size smaller, but the total caps used increased?? |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM) the latency is more giving it to clock more higher.... same as ram latency... u may see why ddr3 latency so high with higher mhz... it is due to 65nm technologies... more smaller capacitor less heat... QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 22 2007, 11:24 PM) my statement b4 correct what..i mean the diff performance between the brisbane and windsor is caused by the latency.have to clock 0.1ghz higher for brisbane. aiyoyo...it's transistor , not capacitor with smaller caps, does that means more caps can be stuffed inside the die?? means the size smaller, but the total caps used increased?? for k8 am2 proc number of transistors 90nm: 164 to 243 million (depending on cache size) 65nm: 221 million |
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Guys,im still in doubt about Intel Dual Core versus AMD Dual Core.
Actually,which is better? E2160 or X2 3800F3 OR E6320 or X3 6400. |
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Dec 22 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 11:21 PM) Just read one review for intel Dual Core and Quad Core Q66. For phonom 9500 and 9600, they are rated as 95wForgot what the model for Dual Core For Quad Core, it take almost double power consumption as Dual Core. I think the same goes to Phenom Not sure though. HeheIf want to go Quad, prepare money for electric bill as well. Hahahahah -pWs- C2Q power consumption is doubled maybe becoz they just simply combine two dual core together then gao thim while phenom is native quad core processor |
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 22 2007, 11:35 PM) Guys,im still in doubt about Intel Dual Core versus AMD Dual Core. E2160 or X2 3800F3 = definately 3800 F3, why? personal experience, heck i even prefer the F3 over E4300, despite benchmarking results, in real world windows environment i feel that the f3 is way more responsive and my apps loads much faster. Actually,which is better? E2160 or X2 3800F3 OR E6320 or X3 6400. |
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 22 2007, 11:45 PM) E2160 or X2 3800F3 = definately 3800 F3, why? personal experience, heck i even prefer the F3 over E4300, despite benchmarking results, in real world windows environment i feel that the f3 is way more responsive and my apps loads much faster. both r ocable if 2160 is m0 , but intel calculate PI faster than AMD |
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 11:31 PM) aiyoyo...it's transistor , not capacitor again, my mistake...transistor lor... for k8 am2 proc number of transistors 90nm: 164 to 243 million (depending on cache size) 65nm: 221 million |
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QUOTE(likito @ Dec 22 2007, 11:51 PM) both r ocable if 2160 is m0 , but intel calculate PI faster than AMD these days processor applications performance are not calculated by PI anymore. PI is just one way to bench your proc and should not be taken as the only result you need to grab a processor. |
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:36 AM) ongbs...u're down haha, come on....dblooi bro..u're my next target i never afraid of challenges |
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 22 2007, 11:31 PM) aiyoyo...it's transistor , not capacitor opps sorry .... oc till stim.. @@ for k8 am2 proc number of transistors 90nm: 164 to 243 million (depending on cache size) 65nm: 221 million |
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Dec 23 2007, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 12:38 AM) haha, come on wah chun xDi never afraid of challenges eh my ice still got 3/4 pail...wasted |
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:36 AM) ongbs...u're down WALAU EH...this budak ah...wei...jangan lari ah.......dblooi bro..u're my next target Wait for me....wait ah...let me lap my F3, lap my waterblock, lap my hand 1st jiak lat! |
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 23 2007, 01:03 AM) WALAU EH...this budak ah...wei...jangan lari ah... lolWait for me....wait ah...let me lap my F3, lap my waterblock, lap my hand 1st jiak lat! u can do it... go for it |
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Dec 23 2007, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 23 2007, 01:18 AM) lol haha..everybody challenge like this only can beat intel ma u can do it... go for it |
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Dec 23 2007, 03:37 AM
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huh intel fan wanna war again...
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Dec 23 2007, 03:46 AM
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huh? where?
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Dec 23 2007, 03:55 AM
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/491075/+820
argue about heat am i wrong? This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 23 2007, 03:55 AM |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 23 2007, 03:55 AM) i dont even know that arguement exist...lolwe better just ignore it la...we have our own road.. he wan say let him say la...just let ie be... This post has been edited by dj.eRicZzz: Dec 23 2007, 04:04 AM |
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Dec 23 2007, 06:46 AM
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Database Updated
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Dec 23 2007, 06:54 AM
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=14771718
u dun update mine This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 23 2007, 06:55 AM |
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Dec 23 2007, 07:00 AM
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Updated
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM) the latency is more giving it to clock more higher.... Supposedly yes, the higher latency is allowing it to clock higher, but it doesn't really seem to be like this for AMD's 65nm procs. Brisbane doesn't overclock better than Windsor, even G1 loses to F3 (only G2 pulls up even). I suspect it was due to design issues, the original cache controller design couldn't work properly under the different characteristics of smaller transistors. Its most likely, since Phenom's main issue is also the cache controller.same as ram latency... u may see why ddr3 latency so high with higher mhz... it is due to 65nm technologies... more smaller capacitor less heat... QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 11:21 PM) Just read one review for intel Dual Core and Quad Core Q66. Its true for C2D & C2Q, but for AM2 its more like one Phenom = 1.5 Athlon X2 power consumption. Power consumption per core dropped quite a lot in G2, then Phenom.Forgot what the model for Dual Core For Quad Core, it take almost double power consumption as Dual Core. I think the same goes to Phenom Not sure though. HeheIf want to go Quad, prepare money for electric bill as well. Hahahahah -pWs- QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 23 2007, 12:33 AM) these days processor applications performance are not calculated by PI anymore. PI is just one way to bench your proc and should not be taken as the only result you need to grab a processor. Not really, PI is used to compare single core performance using basic instruction sets. Many applications still aren't multithreaded (especially games) and a fair number of apps don't really benefit from SSE so PI reflects performance in those applications.QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 23 2007, 01:03 AM) WALAU EH...this budak ah...wei...jangan lari ah... While you're at it, you might as well remove the IHS..save all that trouble lapping..and get better temps too..Wait for me....wait ah...let me lap my F3, lap my waterblock, lap my hand 1st jiak lat! But don't do it if you're gonna use a clip on air cooler later on..only screw on coolers..clip on coolers are core crushers. |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 23 2007, 03:55 AM) a bit off topic.........well...interpret from what's bro clawhammer said, i think he meant AMD thread is hotter / crowded QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 11:19 AM) wow so cold? I tot intel is hot. QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 22 2007, 04:56 PM) AMD is always hotter. QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 23 2007, 03:41 AM) Maybe I should be very careful and specific in every single post, going through facts, documentations and grammar plus vocabulary checks because Malaysian forummers have problems understanding and intepreting words in a very generalized statement. This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 09:10 AMIn other forums, I normally don't have such issues. |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:31 AM
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Guys. I just got my 5000+ Black Edition yesterday at RM365.
 Doing rock stable at 3.1Ghz. Multipler 15.5 set x 200 standard fsb. Thinking to push more now. |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:31 AM) Guys. I just got my 5000+ Black Edition yesterday at RM365. SS pls Doing rock stable at 3.1Ghz. Multipler 15.5 set x 200 standard fsb. Thinking to push more now. wow, just check your signature. your rig really make me edited: what's max multi that can use for 5000+ black? This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 09:34 AM |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 09:33 AM) SS pls read the review i think its 25.5. ill check the bios later. wow, just check your signature. your rig really make me edited: what's max multi that can use for 5000+ black? trying to rewire the cable in this casing take me a long time. poorman rig ma, everymonth has to allocate some money to upgrade slowly. after this planning for second 3870, 2 more gb ram. still waiting for phenom to become stable. cool. i attached later the ss. doing 3dmark now. |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:44 AM
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Waa...AM2+ board. How much you bought it?
How the overclocking functionality? Nice?? -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 09:44 AM) Waa...AM2+ board. How much you bought it? so far good. bought at 588 with quad fx slot.How the overclocking functionality? Nice?? -pWs- i seen you can basicly set manual all the item that we need. even timing and others. dont see any issue in with the board. if we run orthos normal we do a cpu blend test or cpu stress test? This post has been edited by DevilMan: Dec 23 2007, 09:50 AM |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:47 AM) so far good. bought at 588 with quad fx slot. Wow...that is nice. i seen you can basicly set manual all the item that we need. even timing and others. dont see any issue in with the board. Nice rig you have there. -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:52 AM
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Thanks PWS.
Here is my early screen shoot for stock voltage. P.S. My RAM is not showing dual ddr in CPUz. Which one is better Multiplier OC or FSB? Thanks. This post has been edited by DevilMan: Dec 23 2007, 11:01 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 23 2007, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:36 AM) ongbs...u're down wait for me.. on da way to make my rig ....dblooi bro..u're my next target |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:15 AM
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i've bought a new mobo (waiting for it to arrive) and it's ASUS M2A-VM...
currently i'm using Abit NF-M2S which is so poor in OC, cannot adjust anything else except core clock and can get from 3.01GHz to 3.403GHz only.. anyone can comment about my future mobo? My future setup: (after mobo arrive) X2 6000+ ASUS M2A-VM 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2 667 Stock cooler (mayb gonna take cheapo coller.. around 100+) gaygaybyte 7300GS any1 hav seen this kind of setup? how much approximately my next oc score (passed SuperPI 32M) |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:26 AM
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sorry to say, IMHO Asus M2A-VM still not a good ocing mobo. why dont u buy biostar or abit mobo?? however, for ur proc (6000+), going 3.4ghz is considered good already...
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Dec 23 2007, 11:28 AM
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really aaa... nvm then~ change my mission... from changing a good mobo, become changing to a 4 ram slots mobo... :~(
well... ram running on dual channel or single channel or dual + single (3 x 1GB).. does it hav any effect to OC result? |
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:28 AM) really aaa... nvm then~ change my mission... from changing a good mobo, become changing to a 4 ram slots mobo... :~( recomend u to use dual channel onli( 2 ram) more ram, u will face prob to oc higher..well... ram running on dual channel or single channel or dual + single (3 x 1GB).. does it hav any effect to OC result? This post has been edited by xixo_12: Dec 23 2007, 11:47 AM |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:44 AM
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AMD Phenom Processor Update - Memory Bandwidth
AMD Phenom Processors Don't Have Crappy Memory Bandwidth Afterall Link: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/617/1/ Good news for AMD Fans Still remember last time benchmarks was made using 9600 and memory bandwidth is losed to Intel. -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:28 AM) really aaa... nvm then~ change my mission... from changing a good mobo, become changing to a 4 ram slots mobo... :~( using more ram slot will burden the memory controller on ur board, hence will decrease ur ocability a bit...well... ram running on dual channel or single channel or dual + single (3 x 1GB).. does it hav any effect to OC result? |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 11:44 AM) AMD Phenom Processor Update - Memory Bandwidth anyway bro.. 3850 bape u bli ha?? have conflict to run it??AMD Phenom Processors Don't Have Crappy Memory Bandwidth Afterall Link: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/617/1/ Good news for AMD Fans Still remember last time benchmarks was made using 9600 and memory bandwidth is losed to Intel. -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:53 AM) anyway bro.. 3850 bape u bli ha?? have conflict to run it?? RM 6xx The performance so far so good. Waiting for Crysis installer and test on it -pWs- |
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:53 AM) anyway bro.. 3850 bape u bli ha?? have conflict to run it?? xixo forming triple A platform ka? (AMD proc, AMD chipset , AMD gc) |
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:52 AM) Thanks PWS. wow...Here is my early screen shoot for stock voltage. P.S. My RAM is not showing dual ddr in CPUz. Which one is better Multiplier OC or FSB? Thanks. u call tat poor man rig ar... ahha... |
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Dec 23 2007, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Dec 23 2007, 12:14 PM) wow... Well, its took 3 months to build this. u call tat poor man rig ar... ahha... |
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Dec 23 2007, 01:55 PM
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@DevilMan
I think your ddr is not in dual channel mayb due to ganged mode and unganged mode. -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 01:55 PM) @DevilMan fixed edi. hehehe. I think your ddr is not in dual channel mayb due to ganged mode and unganged mode. -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 02:20 PM
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How you fix? Mind to share??
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 02:20 PM) How you fix? Mind to share?? Bios update. -pWs- |
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:15 AM) i've bought a new mobo (waiting for it to arrive) and it's ASUS M2A-VM... If you're looking for a value for money setup by overclocking, then you're planned setup has some major mistakes..for a start, no wise overclocker will buy a top end chip unless there's something special about it, which for most cases including this one there is nothing special. All chips of the same revision and core code have the same design, so in your case any chip using a Windsor F3 with 1mbx2 cache will overclock similarly to the 6000, while being a lot cheaper (check here for a list). Board, Asus has traditionally been overpriced, go for something like gigabyte or biostar. Biostar is a good choice for overclockers, almost as good as Abit in features & price but without the quirkiness of Abit (Abit boards usually have some weird 'perangai' somewhere, but are the best value for money in terms of OC functions for their mid to high range boards).currently i'm using Abit NF-M2S which is so poor in OC, cannot adjust anything else except core clock and can get from 3.01GHz to 3.403GHz only.. anyone can comment about my future mobo? My future setup: (after mobo arrive) X2 6000+ ASUS M2A-VM 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2 667 Stock cooler (mayb gonna take cheapo coller.. around 100+) gaygaybyte 7300GS any1 hav seen this kind of setup? how much approximately my next oc score (passed SuperPI 32M) Another thing, don't dream of overclocking a 6000 on stock cooler, its already quite hot at its stock speed of 3Ghz (~100W). And the typical limit for a Windsor F3 using decent third party aircooling in normal, non-aircon room is 3.2-3.4Ghz, there will not be much noticable difference from the stock speed. QUOTE(omara86 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:28 AM) really aaa... nvm then~ change my mission... from changing a good mobo, become changing to a 4 ram slots mobo... :~( It will run in single channel mode. You must pair all your ram to run dual channel, and anything more than 2 sticks (1 pair) will impair overclocking.well... ram running on dual channel or single channel or dual + single (3 x 1GB).. does it hav any effect to OC result? QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 11:44 AM) AMD Phenom Processor Update - Memory Bandwidth I knew that the new Stars architecture has a damned good memory controller, just that I wondered why it was losing in memory benchmarks. Now I know why.AMD Phenom Processors Don't Have Crappy Memory Bandwidth Afterall Link: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/617/1/ Good news for AMD Fans Still remember last time benchmarks was made using 9600 and memory bandwidth is losed to Intel. -pWs- What's really scary about it is when its on a dual processor system..Ram benchmark more than 10000 MB/s.. |
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 02:41 PM) Bios update. bro im planning to get the same board as yours in preparation for phenom. Id like to know what is the max vcore/vdimm that your board can pull of? |
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 23 2007, 03:48 PM) bro im planning to get the same board as yours in preparation for phenom. Id like to know what is the max vcore/vdimm that your board can pull of? Let me check and get back to you later. It should be able more that enough. |
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Dec 23 2007, 04:14 PM
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I just downloaded the MSI K9A2 Platinum manual from MSI.
@Devilman Is it the BIOS setting same as the manual?? IIANM, there are only few setting for ram timing. -pWs- |
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Dec 23 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 04:14 PM) I just downloaded the MSI K9A2 Platinum manual from MSI. hmm...i just read it too... @Devilman Is it the BIOS setting same as the manual?? IIANM, there are only few setting for ram timing. -pWs- i guess is the manual not detail enough i will give a C- to this handsome mobo's manual edited: just check the layout of the mobo , notice that it has two phase power design for ram part ( while normal mobo only have single phase). theoretically this mobo is build to do insane ram oc This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 06:13 PM |
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 06:00 PM) hmm...i just read it too... timing, vdimm is definitely insane. its has so many options until i dunno what set. i guess is the manual not detail enough i will give a C- to this handsome mobo's manual edited: just check the layout of the mobo , notice that it has two phase power design for ram part ( while normal mobo only have single phase). theoretically this mobo is build to do insane ram oc |
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Dec 23 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 07:53 PM) timing, vdimm is definitely insane. its has so many options until i dunno what set. after some googling,at last i found the bios dram configuration SS of your mobo bro -pws-, you would love to see this 
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hey wait...i think he plug his ram wrongly adi if i'm not mistaken, to form dual channel on MSI mobo, two sticks of ram need to plug in different colour dimm slots 
check his CPU-Z SS, really single channel only another typical case of didn't read manual b4 setup the rig link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447 This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 08:33 PM |
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Add me please, an update to previous result. I think this is the highest OC I can achieve with this proc without any errors.
5600+ X2 Windsor F3 | capriodimitri | M2N32 SLi Deluxe | Corsair XMS2 | 6400 | 5-5-5-15-23 | Xigmatek HDT S1283 [attachmentid=365107] QUOTE Show your SuperPi 32M or Orthos [>1 hour] with CPU-Z overclocked screenshot I wonder why quite a number of new records do not have SuperPi 32M or Orthos >1 hour? A few of them just post 1M SuperPi. Even if windows able to boot with such high speed, wont it be unwise to run at such unstable processor calculation? Using F3, I notice vcore require is much lower to achieve higher speed. But since I am new in OC here, how some people can achieve such high OC (with dry ice and etc) but aint using it for daily use? Is it just for benchmark? For me, I cant go higher than 3.22Ghz with this proc without error. Even I pumped muvh vcore but it is still the same. It can boot up at 3.3ghz but got error at Orthosing. I think the main purpose of OC would be maximize our value of the proc esp for daily usage, right? Hope to hear opinion from you. This post has been edited by capriodimitri: Dec 23 2007, 08:36 PM |
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 08:28 PM) after some googling, yep, must be diff ram slot color. i feel my cpu still bottleneck my card. at last i found the bios dram configuration SS of your mobo bro -pws-, you would love to see this
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hey wait...i think he plug his ram wrongly adi if i'm not mistaken, to form dual channel on MSI mobo, two sticks of ram need to plug in different colour dimm slots
check his CPU-Z SS, really single channel only another typical case of didn't read manual b4 setup the rig link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447 |
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Hello , somebody who can help me ? Sometimes it no display and got sound 'beep' like no ram plug in . But i off and turn on again it can run My Pc Spec is like below :
Abit KN9 Ultra Motherboard Athlon64 3500+ processor (AM2 Socket) Kingston 1GB DDRII 667MHZ Ram x2 (Run Dual Channel ) MSI 8600GT OC Edition Cooler Master extreme power 430w power supply Asus DVD-RW Sata Drive Seagate 160gb sata HDD Seagate 80gb ide HDD My BIOS setting like that : My bios setting is like that FSB = 252MHZ Multiplier = x11 pcie clock =100MHZ cpu core voltage =1.550V Ram voltage = 1.90v HT speed = 3x cpu cool and quiet control = disabled DRAM setting is 667MHZ cas latency =5 clocks TRCD=5 clocks Trp =5 clocks Tras=15 clocks Trc = 19 clocks Trfc0 for dimm1= 127.5 ns Trfc1 for dimm2=127.5 ns Trfc2 for dimm3=127.5 ns Trfc3 for dimm4=127.5 ns command rate = 1T After that i got one question , i use this bios setting previously can overclock to 256MHz X11 (2816MHZ ) , but now cannot reach again if my ram plug dual channel , but can boot if i use 1 ram only ! This is my question , Thank for all the people can help me ! Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 23 2007, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 08:36 PM) Add me please, an update to previous result. I think this is the highest OC I can achieve with this proc without any errors. i'm sure bro -pws- is doing his job well5600+ X2 Windsor F3 | capriodimitri | M2N32 SLi Deluxe | Corsair XMS2 | 6400 | 5-5-5-15-23 | Xigmatek HDT S1283 [attachmentid=365107] I wonder why quite a number of new records do not have SuperPi 32M or Orthos >1 hour? A few of them just post 1M SuperPi. Even if windows able to boot with such high speed, wont it be unwise to run at such unstable processor calculation? Using F3, I notice vcore require is much lower to achieve higher speed. But since I am new in OC here, how some people can achieve such high OC (with dry ice and etc) but aint using it for daily use? Is it just for benchmark? For me, I cant go higher than 3.22Ghz with this proc without error. Even I pumped muvh vcore but it is still the same. It can boot up at 3.3ghz but got error at Orthosing. I think the main purpose of OC would be maximize our value of the proc esp for daily usage, right? Hope to hear opinion from you. those results with pi 1M will not be added into database wow, looking for a debate? your question is simple to answer let's take an example, you watch F1 racing? one of the hottest race on earth. But don't you think it's stupid? create such fast and mighty beast but cannot use it for daily life But yet so many people love it, why? Because those F1 drivers enjoy the game and people enjoy watching. extreme overclock is more or less the same thing |
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seriously,ur vdimm is not enuf..one ram is ok..but not dual channel rite?pump ur vdimm to 2.0..n try trfc to 75ns
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 08:52 PM) i'm sure bro -pws- is doing his job well nice metaphore there...i like it.. those results with pi 1M will not be added into database wow, looking for a debate? your question is simple to answer let's take an example, you watch F1 racing? one of the hottest race on earth. But don't you think it's stupid? create such fast and mighty beast but cannot use it for daily life But yet so many people love it, why? Because those F1 drivers enjoy the game and people enjoy watching. extreme overclock is more or less the same thing mostly ocer will try their best to achieve best score in benchmark. however, for daily usage, with such high vcore, vdimm etc2, pumped, not good for ur hardware healths... lifespan would reduced lo... |
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 08:52 PM) i'm sure bro -pws- is doing his job well Thanks, I agree what you are implying. Me not looking for debate la, still new those results with pi 1M will not be added into database wow, looking for a debate? your question is simple to answer let's take an example, you watch F1 racing? one of the hottest race on earth. But don't you think it's stupid? create such fast and mighty beast but cannot use it for daily life But yet so many people love it, why? Because those F1 drivers enjoy the game and people enjoy watching. extreme overclock is more or less the same thing Just wanna ask a technical question, actually. Is it possible to OC so high and yet so stable for certain batch of proc? Example, mine is OC to 3.22, if I get another similar proc, will the result be same, or there is a possibility to OC to 3.4?Why is it there is error, despite I have check all the following: vcore, vdimm, ram timing + speed, HT bus, temperature? Is it luck? |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(HMV DVD @ Dec 23 2007, 08:46 PM) Hello , somebody who can help me ? Sometimes it no display and got sound 'beep' like no ram plug in . But i off and turn on again it can run My Pc Spec is like below : your vcore.... Abit KN9 Ultra Motherboard Athlon64 3500+ processor (AM2 Socket) Kingston 1GB DDRII 667MHZ Ram x2 (Run Dual Channel ) MSI 8600GT OC Edition Cooler Master extreme power 430w power supply Asus DVD-RW Sata Drive Seagate 160gb sata HDD Seagate 80gb ide HDD My BIOS setting like that : My bios setting is like that FSB = 252MHZ Multiplier = x11 pcie clock =100MHZ cpu core voltage =1.550V Ram voltage = 1.90v HT speed = 3x cpu cool and quiet control = disabled DRAM setting is 667MHZ cas latency =5 clocks TRCD=5 clocks Trp =5 clocks Tras=15 clocks Trc = 19 clocks Trfc0 for dimm1= 127.5 ns Trfc1 for dimm2=127.5 ns Trfc2 for dimm3=127.5 ns Trfc3 for dimm4=127.5 ns command rate = 1T After that i got one question , i use this bios setting previously can overclock to 256MHz X11 (2816MHZ ) , but now cannot reach again if my ram plug dual channel , but can boot if i use 1 ram only ! This is my question , Thank for all the people can help me ! quite high adiwhat's ur cooling? Mind to share? from the SS, you are overclocking your ram adi... what you can do is .. a) change command rate to 2T b) lower down the memory divider to 533 or 400 c) change trfc to 195ns ( if cannot boot, change back to 127.5, judge the situation by yourself ) look at your SS, i afraid your proc adi reach the limit This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 09:07 PM |
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Dec 23 2007, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 08:41 PM) yep, must be diff ram slot color. i feel my cpu still bottleneck my card. maybe is time for you to get windsor F3 QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 23 2007, 09:00 PM) nice metaphore there...i like it.. thanks, glad to see you like it mostly ocer will try their best to achieve best score in benchmark. however, for daily usage, with such high vcore, vdimm etc2, pumped, not good for ur hardware healths... lifespan would reduced lo... QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 09:05 PM) Thanks, I agree what you are implying. Me not looking for debate la, still new haha, i know...just kidding about the debate Just wanna ask a technical question, actually. Is it possible to OC so high and yet so stable for certain batch of proc? Example, mine is OC to 3.22, if I get another similar proc, will the result be same, or there is a possibility to OC to 3.4?Why is it there is error, despite I have check all the following: vcore, vdimm, ram timing + speed, HT bus, temperature? Is it luck? of coz, your answer is definitely a big yes different stepping , oc ability also different for windsor F3, always go for CCB8F 1st batch number? it's depend on your luck for this part your 2nd question. i would say that nope it is not luck. debugging an error always skills and experience involved This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 09:24 PM |
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Dec 23 2007, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 08:52 PM) i'm sure bro -pws- is doing his job well those results with pi 1M will not be added into database wow, looking for a debate? your question is simple to answer let's take an example, you watch F1 racing? one of the hottest race on earth. But don't you think it's stupid? create such fast and mighty beast but cannot use it for daily life But yet so many people love it, why? Because those F1 drivers enjoy the game and people enjoy watching. extreme overclock is more or less the same thing daxn like your F1 comparison bro! Genius! |
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Dec 24 2007, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 03:57 PM) Let me check and get back to you later. It should be able more that enough. "more than enough" <- this statement is not applicable to some people here Anyways, id really love to know the exact figure of the max vcore so that i dont have to suffer what im suffering right now with a limit of 1.55v =( |
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Dec 24 2007, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 08:28 PM) after some googling, Very nice for a MSI board. But i prefer DFI board at last i found the bios dram configuration SS of your mobo bro -pws-, you would love to see this » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « rig photos » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « hey wait...i think he plug his ram wrongly adi if i'm not mistaken, to form dual channel on MSI mobo, two sticks of ram need to plug in different colour dimm slots » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « check his CPU-Z SS, really single channel only another typical case of didn't read manual b4 setup the rig link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447 -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 07:55 AM) Very nice for a MSI board. But i prefer DFI board DFI? Expensive. Cant afford. -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 24 2007, 08:28 AM) DFI? Expensive. Cant afford. nice cpu there devil.... go futher lah... some friend say it can go 3400.... |
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Dec 24 2007, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 12:08 PM) xixo forming triple A platform ka? amd hard fan yang susah nak mati detected.. haha (AMD proc, AMD chipset , AMD gc) QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 08:28 PM) after some googling, seem like a lot of ram tweaking.. good enuf..at last i found the bios dram configuration SS of your mobo bro -pws-, you would love to see this
rig photos
hey wait...i think he plug his ram wrongly adi if i'm not mistaken, to form dual channel on MSI mobo, two sticks of ram need to plug in different colour dimm slots
check his CPU-Z SS, really single channel only another typical case of didn't read manual b4 setup the rig link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447 QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 08:36 PM) Add me please, an update to previous result. I think this is the highest OC I can achieve with this proc without any errors. 5600+ X2 Windsor F3 | capriodimitri | M2N32 SLi Deluxe | Corsair XMS2 | 6400 | 5-5-5-15-23 | Xigmatek HDT S1283 [attachmentid=365107] I wonder why quite a number of new records do not have SuperPi 32M or Orthos >1 hour? A few of them just post 1M SuperPi. Even if windows able to boot with such high speed, wont it be unwise to run at such unstable processor calculation? because purpose of 1m is just to enter SPI 1m chalengge, for sure it's not stable clock.. if yes, sure 32m will be included, if u succes to run SPI 32m , it's not the proof that the system is stable enuf, conclusion is: it's just for benchmark Using F3, I notice vcore require is much lower to achieve higher speed. But since I am new in OC here, how some people can achieve such high OC (with dry ice and etc) but aint using it for daily use? Is it just for benchmark? For me, I cant go higher than 3.22Ghz with this proc without error. Even I pumped muvh vcore but it is still the same. It can boot up at 3.3ghz but got error at Orthosing. who want to use high speed but need to invest a lot of money to buy dry ice I think the main purpose of OC would be maximize our value of the proc esp for daily usage, right? Hope to hear opinion from you. there is a lot of purpose: 1. fun 2. daily use many ppl will choose fun.. the daily setting is put in the second choice... for example: DBLOOI using CnQ.. am i right DB?? QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 09:05 PM) Thanks, I agree what you are implying. Me not looking for debate la, still new oc is luck + skill + money, it depending to each other Just wanna ask a technical question, actually. Is it possible to OC so high and yet so stable for certain batch of proc? Example, mine is OC to 3.22, if I get another similar proc, will the result be same, or there is a possibility to OC to 3.4?Why is it there is error, despite I have check all the following: vcore, vdimm, ram timing + speed, HT bus, temperature? Is it luck? |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Dec 18 2007, 08:01 PM) Hei dblooi... all AMD 1600-LE is F3 stepping right? Yes, they are F3s...Played with one... QUOTE(redken @ Dec 18 2007, 08:06 PM) Even if so. What good does a single core do? Well, some people with a budget setup might actually get a single core 3.4Ghz with the price of RM150.QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 18 2007, 08:14 PM) hi tictac ... Iirc, LE-1600 do not come with CCB8F. The one i got was CCBVF if not mistaken...wow...i was about to say no it isn't but then after did some searching.. result shows that it is F3 stepping
a tip to pick a good F3 proc look at the proc , pick those with CCB8F 1 you will have 50% chance to get stock voltage hit 3G proc if you do so Just to share a little since i played with one. LE-1600 Abit NF-M2S Kingston DDR2 667 (set to 533 5-5-5-15 vdimm 1.9) At stock vcore and vdimm 1.9, i managed to run 24hours stable at 2.9Ghz. I could not get pass HTT 264x3, i have no idea why...once push FSB to 265 only, it boots into post, but i just would not continue loading from there. Too bad the proc in hometown now, if not will test it with my AN9-32x when i collect it later today... Anyway, i do have a strong feeling that it might be able to boot 3.3-3.5. Btw, i'm running stock HSF and stock thermal paste and guess what, 34c on idle at 2.9Ghz and around 45c on load. Now waiting for my: AN9-32x 2x1GB D9GCT, then i will pm -pws- to add me to the list...  |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 24 2007, 10:52 AM) amd hard fan yang susah nak mati detected.. haha yeah i used to underclock my proc to 1GHz & 0.8vcore seem like a lot of ram tweaking.. good enuf.. oc is luck + skill + money, it depending to each other use central brain identifier to check for watt usage, 11W only but now stop doing that adi due to unstability .. trying to troubleshoot now, suspect .net framework 2.0 didn't install properly:sweat: This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 24 2007, 11:02 AM |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 24 2007, 11:01 AM) Yes, they are F3s...Played with one... well, CCBVF is older batch of F3 Well, some people with a budget setup might actually get a single core 3.4Ghz with the price of RM150. Iirc, LE-1600 do not come with CCB8F. The one i got was CCBVF if not mistaken... Just to share a little since i played with one. LE-1600 Abit NF-M2S Kingston DDR2 667 (set to 533 5-5-5-15 vdimm 1.9) At stock vcore and vdimm 1.9, i managed to run 24hours stable at 2.9Ghz. I could not get pass HTT 264x3, i have no idea why...once push FSB to 265 only, it boots into post, but i just would not continue loading from there. Too bad the proc in hometown now, if not will test it with my AN9-32x when i collect it later today... Anyway, i do have a strong feeling that it might be able to boot 3.3-3.5. Btw, i'm running stock HSF and stock thermal paste and guess what, 34c on idle at 2.9Ghz and around 45c on load. Now waiting for my: AN9-32x 2x1GB D9GCT, then i will pm -pws- to add me to the list... if LE-1600 available in CCBVF, i don't think it is impossible for it to come in CCB8F batch |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 24 2007, 08:58 AM) nice cpu there devil.... trying later. too many xmas party to attend to. go futher lah... some friend say it can go 3400.... just formatted my pc again. This post has been edited by DevilMan: Dec 24 2007, 11:13 AM |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:01 AM) yeah i used to underclock my proc to 1GHz & 0.8vcore i think it edi included in CD package rite..use central brain identifier to check for watt usage, 11W only but now stop doing that adi due to unstability .. trying to troubleshoot now, suspect .net framework 2.0 didn't install properly:sweat: |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 24 2007, 11:11 AM) i think it edi included in CD package rite.. should include along with the cd driver. |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 24 2007, 11:11 AM) i think it edi included in CD package rite.. yeah , but something just wrong if i use that one in CD.downloaded a fresh version from microsoft webby, so far so good.... but not sure issit that's the reason caused unstability will try to stress the rig tonite This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 24 2007, 11:19 AM |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:16 AM) yeah , but something just wrong if i use that one in CD. dont stress it, it need only 2 paracetamol... downloaded a fresh version from microsoft webby, so far so good.... but not sure issit that's the reason caused unstability will try to stress the rig tonite |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 24 2007, 08:58 AM) nice cpu there devil.... Hehehe, review will be up soon. So many things to review; go futher lah... some friend say it can go 3400.... Xigmatek, MSI K9A2, Saphire 3870 and 5000+ Black Edition.  |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 24 2007, 11:18 AM) dont stress it, it need only 2 paracetamol... haha ic bro xixo stop trying super pi adi? btw, still using single stick of 10th nowadays? don't plan to get another one? |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:24 AM
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At last manage to use 5x HT Multi already @ 3200Mhz
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Dec 24 2007, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:23 AM) haha ic working la bro, no time.. next sem i do it.. will curi another 10th from sumone bro xixo stop trying super pi adi? btw, still using single stick of 10th nowadays? don't plan to get another one? .. for daily use just using one stick je la.. lg pown main game n make some work.. so i think no need la..Added on December 24, 2007, 11:28 am QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:24 AM) At last manage to use 5x HT Multi already @ 3200Mhz interested with tulisan.. lawa woo..haha.. congrats..
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Dec 24 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:24 AM) At last manage to use 5x HT Multi already @ 3200Mhz it looks good!
-pWs- what's the HT voltage in order to do that? QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 24 2007, 11:25 AM) working la bro, no time.. next sem i do it.. will curi another 10th from sumone so nice, curi one for me also .. for daily use just using one stick je la.. lg pown main game n make some work.. so i think no need la.. oh ya, what's the max speed that your 10th can do? try b4? |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:31 AM
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Stock HT voltage.
I think is Vcore problem. Add one more step for it @xixo_12 Thanks -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 24 2007, 11:41 AM |
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Dec 24 2007, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:24 AM) At last manage to use 5x HT Multi already @ 3200Mhz Izit setting with HT link? = = i din found anything setting about HT multiplier.
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Dec 24 2007, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:05 AM) well, CCBVF is older batch of F3 Ya, the possibility is there, but wondering if AMD will ever sell that many of those LE 1600s.if LE-1600 available in CCBVF, i don't think it is impossible for it to come in CCB8F batch Those LEs that i've seen, guess what only CCBVF. I would really like to try out a CCB8F if there is any... |
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Dec 24 2007, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 24 2007, 01:39 PM) Ya, the possibility is there, but wondering if AMD will ever sell that many of those LE 1600s. check post# 388 Those LEs that i've seen, guess what only CCBVF. I would really like to try out a CCB8F if there is any... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2610477 unless you insist that rifcozo is telling lie .... then i got nothing to say in that case ha, just kidding honestly , CCB8F is nothing special i've seen CCB8F proc since half year ago |
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Dec 24 2007, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:24 AM) At last manage to use 5x HT Multi already @ 3200Mhz normally all 590 chipset board support 1650 HT
-pWs- that's what i know... nice clock there... maybe i should drop my clock to 3200 with higher hypertransport too hehe....... |
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Dec 24 2007, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 24 2007, 12:58 PM) Izit setting with HT link? = = i din found anything setting about HT multiplier. Yea...HT Link Multiplier. Different motherboard w different setting.Check it out. This setting should be existed in every board QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 24 2007, 03:05 PM) normally all 590 chipset board support 1650 HT Haha...I copy CV6149's setting that's what i know... nice clock there... maybe i should drop my clock to 3200 with higher hypertransport too hehe....... -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 02:37 PM) check post# 388 Sorry...my bad for being such noobish... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2610477 unless you insist that rifcozo is telling lie .... then i got nothing to say in that case ha, just kidding honestly , CCB8F is nothing special i've seen CCB8F proc since half year ago My CCB8F is ready to rock...waiting for rams only...Collected my AN9 32x d... Next thing to worry, how to get my XP-90 to work with the without the AM2 Bracket... |
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Dec 24 2007, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 24 2007, 04:25 PM) Sorry...my bad for being such noobish... i got that bracket... My CCB8F is ready to rock...waiting for rams only...Collected my AN9 32x d... Next thing to worry, how to get my XP-90 to work with the without the AM2 Bracket... later when i'm finished doing my testing, will let u know... AN9 32x somemore. nice mobo... This post has been edited by rainingzero: Dec 24 2007, 05:52 PM |
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Dec 24 2007, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 03:55 PM) Yea...HT Link Multiplier. Different motherboard w different setting. My board Biostar TA770 A2+ ........i couldnt find the HT multiplier in bios. = = Izit unavailable?Sorry being noob ==Check it out. This setting should be existed in every board Haha...I copy CV6149's setting -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 06:35 PM
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Oh... This setting should be available.
Mayb need to ask TA690G user here. I can see that the setting for both board -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 24 2007, 06:28 PM) My board Biostar TA770 A2+ ........i couldnt find the HT multiplier in bios. = = Izit unavailable?Sorry being noob == did u read tru the manual 1st? try to spend some time to read tru it... trust me, you will benefit alot |
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Dec 24 2007, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 24 2007, 06:28 PM) My board Biostar TA770 A2+ ........i couldnt find the HT multiplier in bios. = = Izit unavailable?Sorry being noob == if it is the same with TA690G, is should be under Overclocker Engine then you'll find something related to HT. too lazy to restart and check for you |
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Dec 24 2007, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 24 2007, 04:25 PM) Sorry...my bad for being such noobish... enjoy the power My CCB8F is ready to rock...waiting for rams only...Collected my AN9 32x d... Next thing to worry, how to get my XP-90 to work with the without the AM2 Bracket... |
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Dec 24 2007, 10:28 PM
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Bad news for AMD Fans again
Phenom going to be delayed again: http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20071224PD200.html -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 10:29 PM
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im using AMD X2 6000+
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Dec 24 2007, 10:30 PM
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Fix your picture and follow the rules.
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Dec 24 2007, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 10:28 PM) Bad news for AMD Fans again same trick from AMD again Phenom going to be delayed again: http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20071224PD200.html -pWs- adi fed up with this... after long waiting but they release a product that performance lose to another 1 year old retail product This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 24 2007, 10:49 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 24 2007, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 10:43 PM) same trick from AMD again chill la...let them slowly do....slow and steady ma.... adi fed up with this... after long waiting but they release a product that performance lose to another 1 year old retail product anyways..merry xmas to all amd overclockers...happy overclocking |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:00 PM
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im using AMD X2 6000+
Mainboard is ASUS M2Ne Memory DDR2 800 1GB KINGSTON  AMD X2 6000+ | rasyid | ASUS M2N-E | Kingston DDR2 800 1GB X 1 piece | stock HSF |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:17 PM
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bro pws, which bios version u r using?
can share yr BIOS setting? my mobo gila liau, need 1.4V to do 2.7GHz, HTT 1357MHz |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:22 PM
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I am using this bios. 8UM2DA09RXX
How come suddenly become like that?? -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:22 PM) I am using this bios. 8UM2DA09RXX thx, will update the BIOS and see...How come suddenly become like that?? -pWs- dun know leh...to conserve power I set to 2.7GHz for daily use but at default Vcore it not stable... maybe due to the 5X HTT |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:28 PM
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Oh...If 3x HT or 4x HT, problem still persists??
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Dec 24 2007, 11:29 PM
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@rasyid, r u planning to OC ur system?u seems dont talk much..just post u system only
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Dec 24 2007, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:28 PM) Oh...If 3x HT or 4x HT, problem still persists?? didn't try 3x and 4x, now busy BT, will update BIOS later -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:33 PM
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Haha...Okie.
But I dun think is 5x HT problem. -pWs- |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 24 2007, 11:25 PM) thx, will update the BIOS and see... hoho, return of brother ongbs dun know leh...to conserve power I set to 2.7GHz for daily use but at default Vcore it not stable... maybe due to the 5X HTT hope you can solve your problems soon one question: you guys set the HT bandwidth to 8x or 16x? |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:35 PM
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16x for both directions. Why??
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Dec 24 2007, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:35 PM) 16x for both directions. Why?? The higher is better rite?-pWs- Thats mean 16X is better.. |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:35 PM) 16x for both directions. Why?? nothing, just try to survey and see who's using 8x here -pWs- anyone try this before? Compare 8x and 16x HT bandwidth by using everest memory benchmark |
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Dec 24 2007, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:34 PM) hoho, return of brother ongbs no lah...old man now quite only...running below 3GHz wor hope you can solve your problems soon one question: you guys set the HT bandwidth to 8x or 16x? |
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Dec 25 2007, 12:51 AM
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last time i duno den i set to 8x..now use 16...
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Dec 25 2007, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 25 2007, 12:51 AM) last time i duno den i set to 8x..now use 16... bro dj, how many degree C drop after lapping yr F3? |
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Dec 25 2007, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 25 2007, 08:08 AM) bro dj, how many degree C drop after lapping yr F3? think back la..i dont remember properly...but i think few degree only...not much |
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Dec 25 2007, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 08:36 PM) I wonder why quite a number of new records do not have SuperPi 32M or Orthos >1 hour? A few of them just post 1M SuperPi. Even if windows able to boot with such high speed, wont it be unwise to run at such unstable processor calculation? Its all part of the fun..speed trills..some OCers are like that, others do it to get high end stuff at cheap cost.Using F3, I notice vcore require is much lower to achieve higher speed. But since I am new in OC here, how some people can achieve such high OC (with dry ice and etc) but aint using it for daily use? Is it just for benchmark? For me, I cant go higher than 3.22Ghz with this proc without error. Even I pumped muvh vcore but it is still the same. It can boot up at 3.3ghz but got error at Orthosing. I think the main purpose of OC would be maximize our value of the proc esp for daily usage, right? Hope to hear opinion from you. QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 24 2007, 11:01 AM) Yes, they are F3s...Played with one... A single core 3.4Ghz might actually be a good choice for gaming, since quite a lot of games in the past year are starting to get processor bottlenecked again after a number of years of graphic bottlenecked games (thanks to gameplay physics). Many games don't use multi cores at all, and many of those which do it pretty inefficiently, not much improvement from single core. Well, some people with a budget setup might actually get a single core 3.4Ghz with the price of RM150. Iirc, LE-1600 do not come with CCB8F. The one i got was CCBVF if not mistaken... QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:01 AM) yeah i used to underclock my proc to 1GHz & 0.8vcore I had that problem too..realised why after reading anandtech review on Penryn, which includes an explaination of why vdroop is good (shocking, isn't it?). My mobo (NF-M2 nview) has vdroop disabled, which I've come to realise messes up CnQ and underclocking, because on idle the voltage regulators stop boosting the voltage (it boosts on load to counter vdroop) and the voltage sometimes drops to an unstable level without me noticing it.use central brain identifier to check for watt usage, 11W only but now stop doing that adi due to unstability .. trying to troubleshoot now, suspect .net framework 2.0 didn't install properly:sweat: Read the article here http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel...aspx?i=3184&p=5 QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 10:43 PM) same trick from AMD again Its too bad, but at least they've learnt their lesson. I think Phenom 65nm will not be around for long, and AMD will quickly move to Deneb (45nm), which is already in initial production. Deneb will have more cache, and should be able to clock higher. If AMD doesn't mess this up, then AMD will have a fighting chance end of 2008. Only problem now is funding, AMD is running a loss for quite a while. There's been talk of companies possibly buying up AMD like how AMD bought ATI, since AMD/ATI current value is actually less then what AMD bought ATI for. adi fed up with this... after long waiting but they release a product that performance lose to another 1 year old retail product QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:43 PM) nothing, just try to survey and see who's using 8x here I don't think it would make much difference in memory benchmarks, but maybe graphics benchmarks. Memory operations don't use the HT link. anyone try this before? Compare 8x and 16x HT bandwidth by using everest memory benchmark Btw its 8 bit vs 16 bit, not 8x and 16x. QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 25 2007, 09:37 AM) think back la..i dont remember properly...but i think few degree only...not much I expected as much. AMD's heatpreaders are extremely flat compared to Intel's 775 procs. |
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Dec 25 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 25 2007, 10:06 AM) I don't think it would make much difference in memory benchmarks, but maybe graphics benchmarks. Memory operations don't use the HT link. Btw its 8 bit vs 16 bit, not 8x and 16x. really appreciate it |
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Dec 25 2007, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 24 2007, 11:29 AM) it looks good! i think ddr2-1233.. no so good.. the pic edi delete.. coz in 3days i have 'war' with spyware.. bosan tol.. last2 format.. format all important data..so sad.. what's the HT voltage in order to do that? so nice, curi one for me also oh ya, what's the max speed that your 10th can do? try b4? QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:31 AM) Stock HT voltage. no wonder ur vcore too high..I think is Vcore problem. Add one more step for it @xixo_12 Thanks -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 25 2007, 10:53 AM) no wonder ur vcore too high.. High meh?? -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 10:56 AM) High meh?? i use 1.360v for my system (shown in sigs)-pWs- This post has been edited by xixo_12: Dec 25 2007, 11:13 AM |
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Dec 25 2007, 11:16 AM
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I see. Different hardware I think
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Dec 25 2007, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 11:16 AM) I see. Different hardware I think think so.. coz u got so many superb hardware attached -pWs- ..haha |
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Dec 25 2007, 12:06 PM
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Nope I think.
I think my mobo is the real culprit. Need higher Vcore if compared w other boards. -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 12:06 PM) Nope I think. is time to change this I think my mobo is the real culprit. Need higher Vcore if compared w other boards. -pWs- This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 25 2007, 12:20 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 25 2007, 12:28 PM
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dfi packaging is the best ive ever seen..looks technical..and modern..
btw,bro,do u know the retail price?any review? u planning to get one ah? |
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Dec 25 2007, 12:34 PM
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It can use 3 gpu...Is it all 16X if use at one time?
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Dec 25 2007, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 25 2007, 12:28 PM) dfi packaging is the best ive ever seen..looks technical..and modern.. 1k + I think. btw,bro,do u know the retail price?any review? u planning to get one ah? QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 25 2007, 12:34 PM) It can use 3 gpu...Is it all 16X if use at one time? Should 4 right? 790FX chipset -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 01:54 PM
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All sift here i got one question regarding the 8 pin ~
My new GC need 8 pin to support it~ but i have check my PSU it has 8 pin but manual write it is a 8pin Processor Power Connector.. I do check pic for GC 8 pin the pic show same as what i having nw~ My question is do i can use this 8pin Processor Power connector on my GC? Do it is same? |
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Dec 25 2007, 02:06 PM
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Here's mine
 X2 3600+ Brisbane GI|yupihas|Abit nf-m2s|Kingston Value ddr2 667 1gb X 2|773mhz|4-4-4-12-17|stock my mobo's sux like hell !! Cant change vcore n vdimm at all !! Argghhh!! I've OCZ platinum ddr2 8000 but I cant use them coz they need 2.1V >.> pls recommend me a good non-sli mobo for oc under rm350 ... hopefully pci-e 2.0 edit: PS: Im desperate to use dat ram LOL This post has been edited by yupihas: Dec 25 2007, 02:09 PM |
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Dec 25 2007, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(yupihas @ Dec 25 2007, 02:06 PM) Here's mine PCIE 2.0? i doubt that u can get any at the price below 350 X2 3600+ Brisbane GI|yupihas|Abit nf-m2s|Kingston Value ddr2 667 1gb X 2|773mhz|4-4-4-12-17|stock my mobo's sux like hell !! Cant change vcore n vdimm at all !! Argghhh!! I've OCZ platinum ddr2 8000 but I cant use them coz they need 2.1V >.> pls recommend me a good non-sli mobo for oc under rm350 ... hopefully pci-e 2.0 edit: PS: Im desperate to use dat ram LOL if u were asking me which mobo is nice, definitely i will tell u to go for biostar TA690G check this out result achieved by using biostar TA690G price for TA690G is around RM250-RM265 This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 25 2007, 02:20 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 25 2007, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 25 2007, 02:18 PM) PCIE 2.0? i doubt that u can get any at the price below 350 Biostar TA770. Pcie 2.0. RM320 if u were asking me which mobo is nice, definitely i will tell u go for boistar TA690G check this out result achieved by using biostar TA690G price for TA690G is around RM250-RM265 This post has been edited by DevilMan: Dec 25 2007, 02:20 PM |
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Dec 25 2007, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 25 2007, 02:19 PM) Biostar TA770. Pcie 2.0. RM320 ha ic ..... my bad didn't know they are selling it so cheap |
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Dec 25 2007, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 25 2007, 02:21 PM) ha ic ..... my bad AM2+ support. Wanted to get this before. didn't know they are selling it so cheap |
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Dec 25 2007, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 12:06 PM) Nope I think. agreed with you here bro.....I realise this issue quite sometime already..when compare with Abit Kn9....I think my mobo is the real culprit. Need higher Vcore if compared w other boards. -pWs- dunno how to explain this |
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Dec 25 2007, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 25 2007, 12:34 PM) It can use 3 gpu...Is it all 16X if use at one time? No. Its 16x only if there are 2 GPUs or less, if more then it will split one or both of the 16x lines into 2 8x lines.Kind of sayang very few 790FX mobos actually have slots for 4 GPUs. But then again, very few games can make use of even 3 GPUs. There's an interesting article in anandtech QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 25 2007, 01:54 PM) All sift here i got one question regarding the 8 pin ~ The 8-pin CPU power connector is different from the 8-pin PCI-E connector, you won't be able to force it in even. However it is possible to rewire it to be useable for PCI-E. Just change the CPU plastic plug with the PCI-E plug.My new GC need 8 pin to support it~ but i have check my PSU it has 8 pin but manual write it is a 8pin Processor Power Connector.. I do check pic for GC 8 pin the pic show same as what i having nw~ My question is do i can use this 8pin Processor Power connector on my GC? Do it is same? |
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Dec 25 2007, 05:14 PM
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I duno is wether my brisby problem or my board i cant stable in window at 3.0Ghz.
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Dec 25 2007, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 25 2007, 05:14 PM) I duno is wether my brisby problem or my board i cant stable in window at 3.0Ghz. Request for some screenies. Please include CPU-z [CPU & Memory] and Memset. -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 25 2007, 05:13 PM) The 8-pin CPU power connector is different from the 8-pin PCI-E connector, you won't be able to force it in even. However it is possible to rewire it to be useable for PCI-E. Just change the CPU plastic plug with the PCI-E plug. Bro can v chat more detail on this ~Dont wan OT too much my msn : tachlio@hotmail.com I'm trying to get a pin-out of the 8-Pin PCI-E connector for those of us who would rather make one than buy one, or who can't find one to buy (if anyone knows where to buy one, that would be good too). So far, I have the original 6-pin pin-out thanks to our own W1zzard! here's my more in-depth version, albeit made in paint...  Here's what I have on 8-pin so far, I don't know what the rails are, but the shape of the pins is a start...  After further research and ample time of the cards that require these being released, the diagram I made was found to be wrong. I used a picture of a 6 to 8 pin adapter, and that company must have color coded the wires incorrectly. Thanks to KennyT772 we have an up-to-date, CORRECT diagram.   Source Have anyone try ground the another 2pin using the 6pin Power connector ? This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 26 2007, 12:54 AM |
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Dec 25 2007, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 07:33 PM) Request for some screenies. Please include CPU-z [CPU & Memory] and Memset. actually problem is i duno how to screen shot in window.That why i din post up any pic. = = -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 08:45 PM
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1. Press PrintScreen on your keyboard.
2. Then paste it to Paint. 3. Save it in JPEG format. -pWs- |
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Dec 25 2007, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 08:45 PM) 1. Press PrintScreen on your keyboard. THANK YOU ALOT ! 2. Then paste it to Paint. 3. Save it in JPEG format. -pWs- When i back my house i will post up ASAP.Currently on vacation.Still cant run off from forum lolz.Poisonous. = = |
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Dec 25 2007, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 25 2007, 05:13 PM) No. Its 16x only if there are 2 GPUs or less, if more then it will split one or both of the 16x lines into 2 8x lines. 8x at pcie 2.0 is equally pcie 1.0 16x. so it will be running 16x 8x 16x 8x pcie 2.0. Kind of sayang very few 790FX mobos actually have slots for 4 GPUs. But then again, very few games can make use of even 3 GPUs. There's an interesting article in anandtech The 8-pin CPU power connector is different from the 8-pin PCI-E connector, you won't be able to force it in even. However it is possible to rewire it to be useable for PCI-E. Just change the CPU plastic plug with the PCI-E plug. |
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Dec 26 2007, 12:26 AM
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Guys, i have a Q here.
Brisbane 2.3GHz = Windsor 2.3GHz ? |
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Dec 26 2007, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(black^demon @ Dec 26 2007, 12:26 AM) Guys, i have a Q here. For your answer : NoBrisbane 2.3GHz = Windsor 2.3GHz ? This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 26 2007, 12:33 AM |
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Dec 26 2007, 01:09 AM
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emm maybe 2.3g windsy=2.4-2.5g Brisby??
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Dec 26 2007, 01:23 AM
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http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/366/ath...90nm/page13.php
that's the different... real time using... i would say windsor is faster compare using brisbane... use both before... This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 26 2007, 01:26 AM |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM
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Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap.
The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM) Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap. The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... 10c is pretty much |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:38 AM
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hhe ethanx..
try lap ur proc bro..Its not scary as i think it was laa hehehe |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:52 AM
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hehe, told ya am2 proc isnt hard to lap
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Dec 26 2007, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM) Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap. no photo shoot ar? comes share share The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... |
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Dec 26 2007, 03:36 AM
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Please add me bro pWs
3800 X2 Windsor F3 | yeop | Inf nF4 UltraII-M2 | Crucial 10th | 5300 | 5-5-5-5-11 | Xigmatek HDT S-1283 
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Dec 26 2007, 04:07 AM
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yeaop,
yeah at last heheheh..Congrats! |
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Dec 26 2007, 04:11 AM
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Sorry have to Off topic abit..
but i need help from fellow Am2 die hard fan. If you have unused Am2 mobo backplate..Please do pm me..Im looking for it. The backplate may come from dead mobo,3rd party heatsink Please! DFI doesnt have this plate End off topic This post has been edited by CV6149: Dec 26 2007, 04:20 AM |
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Dec 26 2007, 07:29 AM
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Database Updated
PM me if I left anyone -pWs- |
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Dec 26 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 01:09 AM) emm maybe 2.3g windsy=2.4-2.5g Brisby?? 2.3 windsor.. add 0.1 to brisbane.. |
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Dec 26 2007, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(yeop @ Dec 26 2007, 03:36 AM) Please add me bro pWs finally see this fella.. how bout vdim bro??3800 X2 Windsor F3 | yeop | Inf nF4 UltraII-M2 | Crucial 10th | 5300 | 5-5-5-5-11 | Xigmatek HDT S-1283
Added on December 26, 2007, 11:43 am QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM) Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap. wah CV got improvement on SPI.. tight timing too.. good2.. PUT ICE..... The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... This post has been edited by xixo_12: Dec 26 2007, 11:43 AM |
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Dec 26 2007, 12:32 PM
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wah lot of update...cannot oc so much at home...donlod only..since my 2nd rig not complete yet...but almost ad..will oc back after this....
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Dec 26 2007, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM) Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap. haha bro, me also lap my F3 last night, but not till mirror like lah!The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... as u said, the edge feel higher...just lap the side more. the AMD stepping/wording still can see! |
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Dec 26 2007, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 12:54 PM) haha bro, me also lap my F3 last night, but not till mirror like lah! any results to share?as u said, the edge feel higher...just lap the side more. the AMD stepping/wording still can see! |
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Dec 26 2007, 01:27 PM
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btw,interested to here if realy that LE1600 it's can really oc 3ghz since it's come by stepping f3.
any result of it? |
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Dec 26 2007, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 12:54 PM) haha bro, me also lap my F3 last night, but not till mirror like lah! bro ongbs , overclocking soon? as u said, the edge feel higher...just lap the side more. the AMD stepping/wording still can see! maybe i can go to ipoh this weekend |
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Dec 26 2007, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 01:07 PM) any results to share? not comparing as b4 I used Germin II, after lapping changed to WC liau.Added on December 26, 2007, 1:51 pm QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 26 2007, 01:28 PM) bro ongbs , overclocking soon? Not so soon OC lah...haven't fix the mobo properly. maybe i can go to ipoh this weekend OK, call me yam cha when u r here This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 26 2007, 01:51 PM |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:10 PM
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From Ipoh?Near where = =.Interested to see ur mirror F3.= =
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Dec 26 2007, 02:10 PM
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anyone one am2+ mobo yet?? how's the OCability??
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Dec 26 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 26 2007, 02:10 PM) From Ipoh?Near where = =.Interested to see ur mirror F3.= = Me near J.Jusco, and u?not lapped till mirror-like lah bro... Just lapped the edge more with 1000 grid sand paper. Will upload photos later (Photos updated). I lap cause wanna make sure the proc surface is flat, to me I feel that even lap till mirror-like the results not much different. This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 26 2007, 02:40 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 26 2007, 02:41 PM
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wow , bro ongbs lap ur proc????
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Dec 26 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 26 2007, 02:41 PM) wow , bro ongbs lap ur proc???? aiya..x kisah warranty lah...this F3 from china, wanna claim warranty kah? still have warranty onot?? Nanti i kan lap till all wording gone! Make sure it really flat tengah run Orthos ni This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 26 2007, 02:47 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 26 2007, 02:45 PM
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hheheheheh...
if u can get 2000 grit sand paper pm me ya.... i oso want it.... |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE your vcore.... quite high adiwhat's ur cooling? Mind to share? from the SS, you are overclocking your ram adi... what you can do is .. a) change command rate to 2T b) lower down the memory divider to 533 or 400 c) change trfc to 195ns ( if cannot boot, change back to 127.5, judge the situation by yourself ) look at your SS, i afraid your proc adi reach the limit Thank for suggestion from dblooi , i use stock cooler only , Normal use like download movie and watch movie the cpu temp reach between 50c and 57c !!Maybe i will change other powerful cooler later , but my big problem is i lower down the memory divider to 533 or 400 , it directly no display and not any beep sound come out ! If change command rate or trfc also like that !!! Got any suggestion again thanks...... |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 02:44 PM) aiya..x kisah warranty lah...this F3 from china, wanna claim warranty kah? wow..that is hot.The smart guardian known to be off about 9-10c..if measure with coretemp.. Nanti i kan lap till all wording gone! Make sure it really flat tengah run Orthos ni that mean core temp shud about about 58-59c liao laaaa |
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Dec 26 2007, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(HMV DVD @ Dec 26 2007, 02:46 PM) Thank for suggestion from dblooi , i use stock cooler only , Normal use like download movie and watch movie the cpu temp reach between 50c and 57c Powerful cooler? Seem u need it badly, My F3@3GHz using Germin II <50C full load! (2x120 fans running at low speed, quite) !!Maybe i will change other powerful cooler later , but my big problem is i lower down the memory divider to 533 or 400 , it directly no display and not any beep sound come out ! If change command rate or trfc also like that !!! Got any suggestion again thanks...... Wanna buy my few mths old Germin II? Me bought RM149 that time (4 to 6 mths, forgot liau), since we are both from Ipoh, easier COD ma.... Added on December 26, 2007, 3:01 pm QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:51 PM) wow..that is hot.The smart guardian known to be off about 9-10c..if measure with coretemp.. ya lah, me wanna test my Thermaltake SilentWater WC ma...just passed 2hrs Orthos test with radiator fan running at low speed! that mean core temp shud about about 58-59c liao laaaa Yr F3 lap till mirror-like ka bro? This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 26 2007, 03:07 PM |
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Dec 26 2007, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 02:34 PM) Me near J.Jusco, and u? I cant take any picture ..no digicam....not lapped till mirror-like lah bro... Just lapped the edge more with 1000 grid sand paper. Will upload photos later (Photos updated). I lap cause wanna make sure the proc surface is flat, to me I feel that even lap till mirror-like the results not much different. i lap with 800>1000>2000..make it flat..check with razor blade...n no till the copper like came out la... |
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Dec 26 2007, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 02:59 PM) Powerful cooler? Seem u need it badly, My F3@3GHz using Germin II <50C full load! (2x120 fans running at low speed, quite) bro ongbs busy cari business here Wanna buy my few mths old Germin II? Me bought RM149 that time (4 to 6 mths, forgot liau), since we are both from Ipoh, easier COD ma.... when you gonna start , let me know ok? maybe i can bring my stuffs and oc together |
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Dec 26 2007, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 26 2007, 03:42 PM) bro ongbs busy cari business here No lah..u ah...OC Nut... when you gonna start , let me know ok? maybe i can bring my stuffs and oc together Dun want u to rip and rape my pity F3 |
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Dec 26 2007, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 02:34 PM) Me near J.Jusco, and u? i live near maxwell college there. = = i also using geminII.But mine orthos at AMD 4000 2.7Ghz get 49celcius...not lapped till mirror-like lah bro... Just lapped the edge more with 1000 grid sand paper. Will upload photos later (Photos updated). I lap cause wanna make sure the proc surface is flat, to me I feel that even lap till mirror-like the results not much different. QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 26 2007, 02:45 PM) hheheheheh... wow if could find it in ipoh tell me also.if u can get 2000 grit sand paper pm me ya.... i oso want it.... |
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Dec 26 2007, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(amd_hardcore @ Dec 26 2007, 02:45 PM) hheheheheh... Butterworth got a lot la~ If need buy i can help on that if u can get 2000 grit sand paper pm me ya.... i oso want it.... But do post the result here woo |
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Dec 26 2007, 06:10 PM
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can get from Ace hardwares, i got my 1200 and 2000 grit from there, already stock up 5 pcs of each for future use hehe.
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Dec 26 2007, 08:41 PM
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Where is Ace hardware?
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Dec 26 2007, 09:23 PM
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Hi, all i need some help my friend wanna buy new AMD Quad Core.
May i know what type quad core u all recommend?? The mobo he choose is DFI 790Fx-M2R http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169064 but still cant find in Malaysia~ Can anyone help me on this? This post has been edited by tachlio: Dec 26 2007, 09:24 PM |
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Dec 26 2007, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 26 2007, 08:41 PM) Where is Ace hardware? Ace hardware which i know of are as below- The Summit USJ - Mid Valley - Ikano - Sunway Pyramid New Wing |
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Dec 26 2007, 10:40 PM
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PWS,
Please add me to the list: AMD X2 5000+ Black Edition| DevilMan | MSI K9A2 - AMD 790FX | Team Elite DDR2 PC2-6400 2GB Kit | DDR2 800Mhz | 5-5-5-15-24 | Xigmatek HDT S1283 This post has been edited by DevilMan: Dec 26 2007, 10:55 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 26 2007, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 02:44 PM) aiya..x kisah warranty lah...this F3 from china, wanna claim warranty kah? Bro ongbs,you run 3.1Ghz with 1.488V? Nanti i kan lap till all wording gone! Make sure it really flat tengah run Orthos ni Not too high ka the voltage? |
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Dec 26 2007, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 25 2007, 10:30 PM) 8x at pcie 2.0 is equally pcie 1.0 16x. so it will be running 16x 8x 16x 8x pcie 2.0. Well no, if running Crossfire with 2 cards then its 16x 16x PCIE 2.0. If crossfireX with 4 cards then it drops to 8x 8x 8x 8x PCIE 2.0. This is explained on AMD's website (on the page about the 790FX chipset).QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM) Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap. 10C..at first I thought, no way..The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... But then I saw you're using watercooling..no wonder la.. QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Dec 26 2007, 01:27 PM) btw,interested to here if realy that LE1600 it's can really oc 3ghz since it's come by stepping f3. @meno managed to overclock one to 2.9Ghz on a mobo without voltage adjustments. No screenshot cos didn't have time to install windows before he left (he's staying in penang, the system is at his hometown).any result of it? QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 12:54 PM) haha bro, me also lap my F3 last night, but not till mirror like lah! as u said, the edge feel higher...just lap the side more. the AMD stepping/wording still can see! QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 02:34 PM) Me near J.Jusco, and u? Wow, yours is pretty uneven before lapping (based on the difference caused by lapping). None of the X2s I've used have been that uneven.not lapped till mirror-like lah bro... Just lapped the edge more with 1000 grid sand paper. Will upload photos later (Photos updated). I lap cause wanna make sure the proc surface is flat, to me I feel that even lap till mirror-like the results not much different. |
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Dec 26 2007, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 26 2007, 10:49 PM) Bro ongbs,you run 3.1Ghz with 1.488V? wat to do...my DFI not stable running 3GHz@stock Vcore Not too high ka the voltage? Added on December 26, 2007, 11:09 pm QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 26 2007, 10:58 PM) .............................. yalor, so me lap it kaw2 aldy Wow, yours is pretty uneven before lapping (based on the difference caused by lapping). None of the X2s I've used have been that uneven. This post has been edited by ongbs: Dec 26 2007, 11:09 PM |
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Dec 26 2007, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Dec 26 2007, 11:07 PM) wat to do...my DFI not stable running 3GHz@stock Vcore Ya,i think you're right.Mine running 3.2Ghz need 1.45V only BUT the vdimm is 2.25v.I tried 2.15v but cant boot always error. |
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Dec 27 2007, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 26 2007, 09:23 PM) Hi, all i need some help my friend wanna buy new AMD Quad Core. Recommended to have Phenom when B3 stepping is out. May i know what type quad core u all recommend?? The mobo he choose is DFI 790Fx-M2R http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169064 but still cant find in Malaysia~ Can anyone help me on this? -pWs- |
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Dec 27 2007, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 26 2007, 03:42 PM) bro ongbs busy cari business here eh some of ur stuffs at my hand eh when you gonna start , let me know ok? maybe i can bring my stuffs and oc together |
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Dec 27 2007, 07:08 AM
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News for who which plan to use Phenom in AM2 board
Phenom Fails Most AM2 Compatibility Tests : http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/26/phe...ards/index.html -pWs- This post has been edited by -pWs-: Dec 27 2007, 07:08 AM |
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Dec 27 2007, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 26 2007, 09:23 PM) Hi, all i need some help my friend wanna buy new AMD Quad Core. woow...your friend is overclock hardcore? May i know what type quad core u all recommend?? The mobo he choose is DFI 790Fx-M2R http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169064 but still cant find in Malaysia~ Can anyone help me on this? Added on December 27, 2007, 7:44 am QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:06 AM) Just lap my beloved proc.The IHS is damn worst without lap. to reduce the temp diff. between the core, the only way is to remove the IHS The edge is sticking up than the middle..now is flat and smooth. improve about 10c from load temp.. But the weird thing is still the diff temp btw the core. It doesnt change much!.... This post has been edited by gsan: Dec 27 2007, 07:44 AM |
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Dec 27 2007, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 27 2007, 07:08 AM) News for who which plan to use Phenom in AM2 board Damn it man, those board makers are really lazy..its not that the board can't run Phenom, but they're taking their own sweet time to release bios updates allowing Phenom to be used on AM2 boards.. Phenom Fails Most AM2 Compatibility Tests : http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/26/phe...ards/index.html -pWs-  |
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Dec 27 2007, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 27 2007, 07:08 AM) News for who which plan to use Phenom in AM2 board My M2N32-SLi Deluxe has new bios for Phenom. However, it is full of bugs and I have to downgrade it. It lock at HT 1X and PCI-e bandwidth greatly reduced. My 3D Mark 06 scores reduced from 9300 to 6200. Asus has good reputation updating their firmware for their products and good warranty/service as well. That's the difference among the board maker. Phenom Fails Most AM2 Compatibility Tests : http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/26/phe...ards/index.html -pWs- QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 27 2007, 07:42 AM) woow...your friend is overclock hardcore? How to remove? With current AM2 clamping type of its cooler, I think it might actually damage the processor as we cant control the pressures of cooler on the naked processor. Added on December 27, 2007, 7:44 am to reduce the temp diff. between the core, the only way is to remove the IHS |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:05 AM
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Hello , somebody can guide how to oc more higher for my spec :
Below is my pc specification: Abit KN9 Ultra Motherboard Athlon64 3500+ processor (AM2 Socket) Kingston 1GB DDRII 667MHZ Ram x2 (Run Dual Channel ) MSI 8600GT OC Edition Cooler Master extreme power 430w power supply Asus DVD-RW Sata Drive Seagate 160gb sata HDD Seagate 80gb ide HDD AMD Stock Cooler Now my bios setting is like that : FSB = 252MHZ (2772MHZ) Multiplier = x11 pcie clock =100MHZ cpu core voltage =1.575V Ram voltage = 1.95v HT speed = 4x cpu cool and quiet control = disabled DRAM setting is 667MHZ cas latency =5 clocks TRCD=5 clocks Trp =5 clocks Tras=15 clocks Trc = 21 clocks Trfc0 for dimm1= 195 ns Trfc1 for dimm2= 195 ns Trfc2 for dimm3= 195 ns Trfc3 for dimm4= 195 ns command rate = 1T Previously , i can overclock to FSB=256MHZ (2816MHZ) before 1 week , But now directly no display and no beep sound again . So i force to downclock to 252MHZ . Can expert recommend some ram timing , voltage setting to push back my speed back to 2816MHZ . Thanks |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE command rate = 1T change to 2t first wut divider u used?? suppose to use 400 first to stable the max proc This post has been edited by xixo_12: Dec 27 2007, 10:22 AM |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:27 AM
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theres nothing wrong wif ur timing..its in the middle..not too loose, not too tight..so ur in a safe position..but change the command rate to 2t.increase ur vdim..ur dvder is 667,and according to the dvder table, it will be cpu/7..so ur ram is 2772/7= 396 -396x2=ddr792
u may need to increase ur vdimm..try to put it at 2.0 or 2.1 if u have active cooling xixo... ko da blik melaka ker This post has been edited by alive88: Dec 27 2007, 10:27 AM |
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Dec 27 2007, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 27 2007, 10:27 AM) theres nothing wrong wif ur timing..its in the middle..not too loose, not too tight..so ur in a safe position..but change the command rate to 2t.increase ur vdim..ur dvder is 667,and according to the dvder table, it will be cpu/7..so ur ram is 2772/7= 396 -396x2=ddr792 aku balik 30.. then i have dating with gf orang lain..haha.. when u back to malacca.. after this DUAL CHANNEL in action.. u may need to increase ur vdimm..try to put it at 2.0 or 2.1 if u have active cooling xixo... ko da blik melaka ker |
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Dec 27 2007, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Dec 26 2007, 01:27 PM) btw,interested to here if realy that LE1600 it's can really oc 3ghz since it's come by stepping f3. any result of it? QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 26 2007, 10:58 PM) @meno managed to overclock one to 2.9Ghz on a mobo without voltage adjustments. No screenshot cos didn't have time to install windows before he left (he's staying in penang, the system is at his hometown). Ya, managed to Boot Windows 2.9Ghz@264x11. (My Dad installed windows after i left, will try to get a screenie when i get back home).From what i see, the mobo is the limiting factor there. Using only an Abit NF-M2s. I could not adjust proc voltage, nb voltage, vdimm max out at 1.9, i could not find a way to even set the ram to DDR2 400 to test out the max for the proc. I have strong feelings telling me that eventhough it's a CCBVF, not a CCB8F, 3ghz should be easily achieved provided you have the proper setup. Would like to test it on my AN9 32x... Try to search for a CCB8F, should be able to OC quite far... |
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 25 2007, 02:19 PM) Biostar TA770. Pcie 2.0. RM320 where got sell it??? btw thus HT multiplier affects stability after OC? CPU score in 3dmark06 and everest are the same despite of different HT multiplier edit: "almost the same" btw mine still not listed QUOTE(yupihas @ Dec 25 2007, 02:06 PM) Here's mine This post has been edited by yupihas: Dec 27 2007, 12:42 PMX2 3600+ Brisbane GI|yupihas|Abit nf-m2s|Kingston Value ddr2 667 1gb X 2|773mhz|4-4-4-12-17|stock my mobo's sux like hell !! Cant change vcore n vdimm at all !! Argghhh!! I've OCZ platinum ddr2 8000 but I cant use them coz they need 2.1V >.> pls recommend me a good non-sli mobo for oc under rm350 ... hopefully pci-e 2.0 edit: PS: Im desperate to use dat ram LOL |
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Dec 27 2007, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(yupihas @ Dec 27 2007, 12:38 PM) where got sell it??? You can ask eric from robyncom though. JustPC and cycom is also selling if im not mistaken. btw thus HT multiplier affects stability after OC? CPU score in 3dmark06 and everest are the same despite of different HT multiplier edit: "almost the same" btw mine still not listed I beleive the mobo is very good and stable. |
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Dec 27 2007, 01:44 PM
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Damn my sem break is almost over >.< only few days left... my freedom .... nooooo >.< guess have to wait for mid-sem break
ta770 !!! Im falling in love with u!!! btw abit nf-m2s cant change to ddr2 400 ler... minimum is 533 only after i buy biostar ta770 im not going to sell it , im going to smash it wif a hammer n burn it to crisp a good way to please a broken heart |
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Dec 27 2007, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 26 2007, 10:40 PM) PWS, bro,Please add me to the list: AMD X2 5000+ Black Edition| DevilMan | MSI K9A2 - AMD 790FX | Team Elite DDR2 PC2-6400 2GB Kit | DDR2 800Mhz | 5-5-5-15-24 | Xigmatek HDT S1283 what is ur 5000+be Temp, idle and load. i angkat one 5000+BE (after long time tak OC).. mine 5000+ BE temp defult @2.6g idle: 45~47c load: 52~c OC @ 3.2g idle: 47~49c load: 68c im using SilverStone Nitrogon NT06 cooler. detect the temp using everest 4.2.1170 (trial version)..dont know if the temp is detect accurately or not. thanks |
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 27 2007, 03:08 PM) bro, Shit,what is ur 5000+be Temp, idle and load. i angkat one 5000+BE (after long time tak OC).. mine 5000+ BE temp defult @2.6g idle: 45~47c load: 52~c OC @ 3.2g idle: 47~49c load: 68c im using SilverStone Nitrogon NT06 cooler. detect the temp using everest 4.2.1170 (trial version)..dont know if the temp is detect accurately or not. thanks That is hot. I never tested using everest but from MSI CoreCell . Mine idle for 3.2Ghz at 1.39vcore is 31c and max load 45c Standard vcore at 3.1Ghz is 30c and max 42. Using Xigmatek and facing dual 12cm on top of my casing and another exhaust fan at the side. Download everest, will test later. |
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Dec 27 2007, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 27 2007, 03:08 PM) bro, use your hand mor mor it and feel the heat... u know hot or not lor....what is ur 5000+be Temp, idle and load. i angkat one 5000+BE (after long time tak OC).. mine 5000+ BE temp defult @2.6g idle: 45~47c load: 52~c OC @ 3.2g idle: 47~49c load: 68c im using SilverStone Nitrogon NT06 cooler. detect the temp using everest 4.2.1170 (trial version)..dont know if the temp is detect accurately or not. thanks b2 temp is n0t accurate anyway... |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 27 2007, 03:42 PM) use your hand mor mor it and feel the heat... u know hot or not lor.... If hand can't feel then use yr tongue as temp probe, sure can detect the temp one b2 temp is n0t accurate anyway... , haha, just kidding...btw, 5000+ BE temp defult @2.6g idle: 45~47c load: 52~c the idle and full load temp only diff by 5 to 7C? if correct yr cooler must be good |
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Dec 27 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(yupihas @ Dec 27 2007, 01:44 PM) Damn my sem break is almost over >.< only few days left... my freedom .... nooooo >.< guess have to wait for mid-sem break The NF-M2s sucks big time... ta770 !!! Im falling in love with u!!! btw abit nf-m2s cant change to ddr2 400 ler... minimum is 533 only after i buy biostar ta770 im not going to sell it , im going to smash it wif a hammer n burn it to crisp a good way to please a broken heart Btw why Ta770? There are other choices around that range, with one that obviously stands out, the K9A2 CF. Anyway, i was also considering about the TA770, K9A2 CF/Platinum, M3A...But ended up getting an AN9-32x... Wanna wait for prices of 790FX to come down further before jumping to AMD 7 series chipset mobo. Anyway, AN9 32x is a nice mobo to play with, loadsa tweaking options to fully utilise ur proc and ram... QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 27 2007, 03:42 PM) use your hand mor mor it and feel the heat... u know hot or not lor.... Bro, i just got to boot my F3 yesterday.b2 temp is n0t accurate anyway... Haven't install windows or anything yet, only test boot only, borrowed 1 piece of ram from Lohwenli. I manage to boot 3.3ghz with stock vcore... Hoping to get maybe 3.4-3.5 with stock vcore, but that will be insane. Btw, B2 temps are out. Used to run a Brisby 4400(or was it 4200 can't recall), idle temp on stock cooler was around 55c and load temp running prime was 79-80 ... But the hsf was still not really that hot to touch...@dblooi, thanks for the chip bro. It really performs as what i expected it to do... This post has been edited by @meno: Dec 27 2007, 04:15 PM |
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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 27 2007, 04:13 PM) The NF-M2s sucks big time... Congrats =) can't wait to see your best clock Btw why Ta770? There are other choices around that range, with one that obviously stands out, the K9A2 CF. Anyway, i was also considering about the TA770, K9A2 CF/Platinum, M3A...But ended up getting an AN9-32x... Wanna wait for prices of 790FX to come down further before jumping to AMD 7 series chipset mobo. Anyway, AN9 32x is a nice mobo to play with, loadsa tweaking options to fully utilise ur proc and ram... Bro, i just got to boot my F3 yesterday. Haven't install windows or anything yet, only test boot only, borrowed 1 piece of ram from Lohwenli. I manage to boot 3.3ghz with stock vcore... Hoping to get maybe 3.4-3.5 with stock vcore, but that will be insane. dblooi, thanks for the chip bro. It really performs as what i expected it to do... |
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