i currently have two sets of ram (2x1GB kingston and 2x512mb crucial) and both are value ram. different people may have different insight about overclocking.

to me, it's always about price per performance ratio. i can't afford expensive performance parts, that's why overclock comes into the picture. get the cheapest parts and overclock to match performance part rating.

but as usual, overclockable cheap stuffs are considered gems.

some other people just want to push stuffs to the limit, that's why they buy high performance stuffs.

mod, try b4 max pump vdimm and see how far your ram can go ?
kinda curious to see the max oc of that promos chipset ram

This post has been edited by dblooi: Jan 9 2008, 11:06 PM

Great price per performance ratio = Overclocked hardware = Wise bussiness = YOU ARE A MIDDLE CLASS CITIZENS

I have a micrometer, you can borrow it if you can figure how to get it from me in penang and return it when you're done..

Try to beat my HTT record on the nview..hoping you can reach 400.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=14603943

It can clock a lot better than G1(3.0Ghz with stock cooler & stock voltage is quite possible), and the heat & power consumption barely rises even when overclocked.

I'm not sure about this, but the cache latency seems to be unchanged from G1.


Lol..almost like removing the IHS, but with the edge remaining as a shim..
May have some slight contact problems though, you gotta be very even on all sides.

Bingo, me got this type of thinking too
That is why I never invest into those high performance RAM

The most expensive I will invest in a PC system is the LCD coz no one teach me how to OC LCD

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Added on January 10, 2008, 12:07 amCoz many ppl said nowadays those IHS were laser welded, very high risk to cause core damage when remove.
If lap till see the core I will still sand those remaining IHS lower to get better contact to the core

This post has been edited by ongbs: Jan 10 2008, 12:07 AM

thx for your offer...but..i still dont know the measurement of the original ihs and after lap....

thanks 4 your thought man.. ..now i see wider view on overclocking..

same situation with me... lol stuck with value

i guess most AMD users are budget wise minded, that includes me as well. Speaking of which... performance rams these days are blardy cheap, can't wait for my 4gb kit from kingmaker, RM400 for a kit of 2x2gb DDR1000 kit

Also, is it just me, or does anyone else here feels that AMD runs windows smoother than intel counter parts? being using dblooi's F3 for awhile.. and a couple of days ago i set up my friend's C2D E6850 and it a littler choppier than my very own F3.... hmm..

amd x2 5200+ vs amd x2 5000+ black edition

which one better?

i saw the review that x2 black edition can overclock and beat x2 5000+, but x2 black edition cache is smaller than 5200+

Black edition till the end is still a brisbane, on the same clock as a 5200 does, the 5200 wins. The black edition has an unlocked multi which makes it fun to tweak, you can have a cheap ram and clock the CPU skyhigh without ram limitation and also, keep the speed low while burning your ram skyhigh.

But after tasting Windsor and brisbane cores, id go for 5200+ anytime rather than 5000+ BE.

5200+ can overclock better than 5000+ BE ?

I don't know but, I don't see the point of running high HTT because it doesn't increase performance.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/608586

help me.. can anyone provide this item faster..

i found out that most review recommand 5000+ BE insted of 5200+, cause 5200+ cant do much in overclock.

review? nowadays they are more like corrupted advertisements to me
a CCB8F 5200+ beats 5000+ BE in no time, in term of clock to clock CPU performance , OC ability and also L2 cache capacity and latency

edited: unlocked multiplier? i doubt that you will use up to 25x multiplier

This post has been edited by dblooi: Jan 10 2008, 12:43 PM

instead of getting 5000+ BE, might as well get a 4400+ G2

i do have the converter, RM14 in my shop =)

Yes, reviews are only used as a refference and not final concluding result. Most review these days are corrupted.

very much agreed.

except reviews from your own pocket la hahahaha

lol... very true, but it hurts hahaha. Pocket very big lubang now