2 hours queue in BG9 is not fun. I've told my fellow Hordes in BG9 to give Alli some honor but they never listen and defense like mad. 15 on d with healers and archers and drek alive is not fun when the q is 2 hours.


So how long can I get exalted with WSG from revered ? 21k rep to farm.

Thats the problem. Horde used to get decent honour even if they afked the match. But now with the patch changes to AV, alliance can play for 30-45 mins for 60 honour.

alliance in my battlegroup Cyclone win majority of the AV.. in fact, they win much more in all the BGs compare to hordes. i'm just amaze how battlegroup can differ so much from 1 another..

imho i think should expand the battlegroup.. rather than 8 realms.. make it 16realms!!

you won't be killing the same opponent that much often and screw ur diminish honor return..
you won't have to wait 5-10min for a 2v2 to pop...
you won't have to wait 5-10min for a bg on wicked hours...
you don't have to match against the same team for the last 5 arena games.. (unless we are the farmer team)
the balance of power in BG and arena can normalized...

This post has been edited by exshige: Dec 17 2007, 12:17 PM

check my epeen thread and see how alliance play to get 0 honor in AV. lulz

=edit=
just to add in, BG's im in i win AT LEAST 70-80% of them and about 20-30% of them is a perfect game (8-10 min eots 4 cap alli spawn camp or 5-7 min WSG 0 alli flag or 0 honor AV or 5 cap AB's you name it)

and im in cyclone

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 17 2007, 12:59 PM

O.o wat time u play in? wee hrs for US peep or wee hrs for msian peep?

normal asia pacific timezone. whenever i get back from work between 6-8pm to 2-3 am

Really? 2-hour AV queue for hordies in BG9?

my average waiting time (que) for AV in BG9 is about 1hour 10 mins. So, in a day can do about 2 to 3 AV games and do the other Bgs while waiting for it.

The funny thing is that horde side always start the game with less players then the alliance (eg. 35 alliance vs 28 horde). Are the alliance really boycotting AV or maybe less players queing for it on horde side because of the 1 hour wait?

In all AV i am in, the raid group always try to get highest honors possible. Defend all horde buildings & GYs, do not let alliance kill the captain, cap all alliance bunkers, GYs, Mines, and kill all hostile moving objects on the field. Because waiting for one hour for the game & getting more honors worth it.

Sounds a lot like Alliance's AV experience pre 2.3. Especially the queue times.

Well I usually spam the trade channel telling the rest not to play AV, and let the hordes wait like how we used to wait for an AV match

...and I thought BG9 is an extremely active battlegroup?

Very competitive in the arenas. Just maybe not the battlegrounds?

I wasn't aware that BGs were solo play.

teamplay starts from one individual, i got the skill/gear/charisma to lead the horde.

examples:

- me defending iceblood tower. while it takes 2-3 sub par geared people to defend, i alone can take on 2-3 sub par geared alliance at once. (and we all know how people likes running AV in shit gears, i mean, ive did a 2.8k riposte crit on some cloth before, so go figure.) that manpower is freed to either defend IB GY, or offend.

- co-ordinating attacks/defends in AB/EOTS (its really just running around the nodes, need someone to co-ordinate the movements, and the horde to listen. that is the hardest part, but its always worth it)

- leading offense team on WSG (co-ordinating cc's on enemy healers while downing enemy FC, or not even letting enemy picking our flag at all)

someone's gotta do it, i just happen to be that person.

you sir are the true champion of the horde

still depends on the rest of the BG players to work along

but yea it helps.

Take this rule:

Everyone in the BG are idiots, except YOU. Yes, YOU. It is up to YOU to defend that node in AB. It is up to YOU to guard towers in EoTS. It is up to YOU to recap our base in AV. It is up to YOU to stop the Alliance flagcarrier in WSG.

Once YOU know that all depends on YOU, your side will perform better. Once people know someone (aka YOU) is doing something useful instead of the usual mindless zerg in the middle of the flag, they will flock to your side and follow your lead.

Well done, you've managed to look past the sarcasm and replied constructively. You are now 1 step closer to rejuvenating the LYN WoW Forums.

^ this guy speaks the golden truth

---

Added on December 19, 2007, 10:20 amactually, no. ive been posting the way ive been posting since day 1, looking past sarcasm or not. nothing really changed from my side. perhaps you're seeing things differently?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 19 2007, 10:20 AM

Don't think anyone with your type of mentality will ever change.

good that you realized that at least.