i would like to bring this thread to the attention of the board admin.

i dont know if its against the rules of the board per se , but its regarding a scheme into bringing people into the UK to work by exploiting the loophole in the system.

i dont think LYN would want to condone the advertisement of such a "service".

they purport to be running a college where they run one year "academic programmes" where the "students" only attend classes for one month and are given 11 month "holidays" in order to enable thme to work full time.


they want to take in as many "students" as poosible, obviously to maximise their cashflow.

this will have an effect on honest malaysians who are in the UK for real honest reasons and one day, malaysians may not even me able to enter the UK for short visits without applying for visa beforehand.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/585402

welcome to reality, these small colleges you can just cheat on it, heck.. i bet these type of college even can sell you their certificate/diploma as long as you got money. you dont need to study, take exam or do any assignment at all, just pay..

this situation could happen bcoz most likely some officer from ministry of education also making some profit from these college.. you know what i mean la..

uni and college in uk is pretty much have different standard and regulation i believe, its not like malaysia where private college here also offer degree course.

This post has been edited by jong52yuara: Dec 12 2007, 06:31 PM

i know.

but i dont think LYN would want to be one of their vehicles for selling their services.

its fraud pure and simple.

I believe its for the Queen's immigration department to decide if its fraud or not. Laws often have loopholes in them and exploiting it isn't wrong.

obtaining a student visa with the intent of working full time is tantamount to cheating.

its deception. pure and simple.

Yeah but its still the Immigration office that decide whether they will give them visa or not..

This is somewhat different from another thread we closed earlier, where someone was offering illegal employment (to tourist visa holders) in Australia to pick apples. That was clear-cut immigration fraud.

I agree with RBR that it's up to the Queen's immigration to determine whether it's fraud. And indeed, with that institution's study term being as short as 1 month, I don't see how yearlong visas can be approved. Notwithstanding the fact that the institution isn't DfES accredited (as far as I can see on EduBase).

I also agree that technically, it's not wrong to be acting in a way that does not violate the law.

That said, it doesn't mean that we can't be good citizens and stop ourselves from being part of a bigger problem that isn't currently addressed by the law. And let's face it - intuitively, alarm bells are going off all over that thread suggesting that the institution, or at least in the way ah_suknat portrays it, is a visa mill racket.

To be fair, they are also studying. Look, if a visa is granted, and the conditions of the visa allow work, then its all cool. I think you should be bringing this up with immigration UK. If there is indeed a loophole, then they can pass laws to patch it up.