hi everyone..

i think many of u guys know bout this guy, nicked Seamonster.. he keeps selling good used stuffs at cheaper price while accept trade in.. normally he sells processor (OEM and retail)

ok here is the case,


wednesday:
i wanted to buy from him one Q6600 retail, then i also said i want to trade in with one of my E2160.. so he said ok..
i have to pay him RM540..
I agree with that, but i said i need the q6600 to be in my hand first before i posted out my E2160.
He said ok, but i have to pay him full amount first. I asked how much, he said RM700. I agree with it.

thursday:
this is the day he shud posted out the processor... later in afternoon i asked him whether he already posted or not, he said he cant post it yet bcoz he still waiting for the heatsink + receipt from the guy he bought the q6600 (remember he is a trader)..
but i said i need the cpu fast so just post the processor first and the rest of the stuffs later. he said ok, he will post the processor today and the other stuffs on friday..

Friday:
i got the item..


The next week:
I still didnt receive the other stuffs..
I posted out the E2160 on thursday to one address he gave (shah alam)

The week after:
I didnt yet receive my stuffs (the heatsink + receipt)
and he also didnt receive my cpu..

this week:
i tried to solve with him in Pm but in the end of the day he refuse to entertain me.. He also acted sarcasticly in PM..

Today:
i try to solve thing and only ask him to admit his mistake.. but he dun want.. instead he challenge me to open this thread coz he said he wants to see if he can win against a 4k post senior member..

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Ok, the problem here is both of us dun keep the poslaju receipt.. so we failed to prove it to make things easier.. On my part, i already bear my loss (for the E2160) and seamonster dun have to refund me back..

it's like i'm buying the Q6600 alone.. not trade in..

but for Seamonster part, he didnt want to admit his mistake when i asked bout the heatsink + receipt.. u know, i dun really care bout the heatsink + receipt.. but if u bought sthing retail, and agreed to have those stuffs, surely u want it rite? and in this case the stuffs means more esp for warranty purpose..

i PMed him few times to discuss, but he keep asking where is my E2160... and try to avoid the heatsink + receipt that he lost...

just imagine,

if u buying a used car + trade in with ur current car.. while waiting for the loan process suddenly ur current car was stolen.. but u already got full loan for ur new car, can the usedcar seller decide to not sell the car to u? coz u already paid and he already got the money from bank..
can he keeps asking where the **** is the my old car? and decided to hold the new car document?




Honestly, i didnt plan to open this thread.. but he challenge me to do so.. So i open it.. I have pride as well.. not just him.. If he thinks he got so many follower due to nice stuff he is selling, then that's it..

I dun care who is wrong here. i believe both of us are wrong, by loosing the poslaju receipt.. but i believe both of us have to be responsible.. i responsible for the E2160, he responsible for the heatsink + receipt.. that's it.. In the end who doesnt want to be responsible, he is the one who is loosing..

Fyi, i also had another one E2160 lying around.. but i dun think i can replace the missing one and give this to him.. coz for what had happened..

Maybe u guys can advice us what shud i do, and what shud he do.. I hope this case can be solved easily bcoz for me, it's a very small matter.. the amount involved is very small, just rite now i think Seamonster has too much ego in him...

now i'm asking for honest opinion from u guys, no matter if u r my friend, if u think i'm guilty then i'm fine with it.. same with seamonster.. this is the 1st time i open thread here and i want thing to be solved fairly..

Thanks.



** update::

he said i have to open this thread on behalf of him and kucingfight ( the guy who is supposed to buy the E2160 from him) .. so here is another suggestion i want to ask..

am i dealing with Seamonster or Kucingfight? so what ever happens with the processor is between me and seamonster.. for kucingfight, he needs to be responsible for kucingfight, not simply by pointing finger to me when sthing goes wrong..

just imagine:

if u buy some faulty stuff from me.. and the stuff i got from other forumer .. can i simply point u to blame that guy and i just relax goyang kaki? as a seller / trader, i've to be responsible to u coz u r my customer.. then only i blame the guy who sold the stuff to me.. am i rite?

thx again~

didn't he live in pahang?

1 more, acecombat seems to know him......

hope he will help you..

wow, long story there..

i thinks 1st of all, its seamonster have to ship the retailed HSF & receipt as he promise~ no doubt

& my dear fRend irenic, u really really shouldnt throw the receipt or atleast u have the tracking no. as reference

This post has been edited by gengstapo: Dec 12 2007, 03:45 PM

irenic Deal With SeaMonster
RM540 + Q6600, He Should Send Me The Whole Set Processor + RM540 Just I Can Send My Q6600 To Him..

But He Told Me To Help Him Abit.. Coz Don't Have Extra Processor , No PC To Use..

I Regret That I Accepted His Request.. Made The Trouble Worst ..


He Told Me He Sent The Processor( To kucingfight address of coz, coz kucingfight paid me rm200 ).. On Thursday, Should Reach At Friday Or Latest Also Delay Within 1Week..

Few Weeks Later.. kucingfight still havent received the processor..
i keep updated him...

Since Took Long Time To Wait, I Paid RM10 For Apologize For My Customer Pending..

This Monday Already 3Weeks + Still Havent Received, I Dissapointed And I Refund Another RM210 To kucingfight
So Total I Refunded To kucingfight is rm220 Although He Paid Me rm200 for the E2160.

I Made Alot Apologize To kucingfight since he pending on long time..

kucingfight told me , Just Request irenic the Tracking No. To Check Where Is The Processor La..
Ok.. I Did That..

irenic Told Me What? "Sorry, I Lost The Receipt.. Can't Provide You Any Tracking No."
And Then Terrible You Guyz Know? What He Said?
" I Felt That You 2Guyz, kucingfight & SeaMonster Con Me "
Item Received But Tell Me Din't Received..


What I Can Do Now?

Advise Plz..

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Added on December 12, 2007, 3:41 pmNo Need 2 Thread..

Use Yours Enough..

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Added on December 12, 2007, 3:41 pmLater PPl Confuse..

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Added on December 12, 2007, 3:48 pmYeah ... kucingfight Came...

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Added on December 12, 2007, 3:50 pmIf I Tell You I POSTED, I Also Din't Keep The Receipt Le?

So How?

This post has been edited by SeaMonster: Dec 12 2007, 03:50 PM

Ok simple. Let's get straight to the point. I'm the buyer of irenic's E2160 which goes thru Seamonster (middleman).

Let's get things straight fwd buyer seller relationship. I don care what's goin on with Seamonster & irenic . I'm dealing with Seamonster.

Point is, i haven got the proc (e2160) till today. By all means, i don hav any intention to scam. If i've had receive it, i will let u know. If i haven received yet, i will let u know aso. All this while all packages had been diverted to this similiar address and i've got no mising packages ( over 100+ packages til today)

Off course both parties can counter sue each other that they had sent, but bottom line is, irenic claimed he had sent to me but i've not received it. So who's to be blamed? You show me the poslaju shipping code, and i'll keep my mouth shut. simple

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Dec 12 2007, 03:59 PM

This Topic Confirmed Sure HOT And Attactive

a good solution.. get the shipping / tracking number.

Hmm i see a "safe trader" and an "elite" involved and a not so senior member..

The funny part is why sender didnt give tracking code and buyer also didnt request?

Usually i will give tracking code once i posted..so far i never recalled i never gave.

Thats all my comments.


I dont really read thru the whole thing, but i guess since sender cant prove he sent the item then sender should bear the lost rite?
Anything else from the story?
SeaMonster did his part?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Dec 12 2007, 04:06 PM

Any Comment To Solve This Case?

Need Advise...

I saw something like u lost HSF and receipt?
So have u did your part?

Coz i saw irenic already bear the lost of his proc.

Ya, But He Want Me To Bear His Lost..

The Problem Is..

Since His Amount Is RM160, Mine Only LittleBit..


And He Said " SeaMonster & kucingfight Con Him "

This post has been edited by SeaMonster: Dec 12 2007, 04:10 PM

One thing from my side, i've settled the payment with Seamonster on E2160 and gave him my add. So i did not know what was goin on between them. I'm juz doing my part in the trade.

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Added on December 12, 2007, 4:11 pmAlso not to add any fire, off course he can always claimed he has sent the proc. I do not want to comment further, juz provide me the shipping code..and we'll know from there.

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Dec 12 2007, 04:11 PM

Ya.. Correct..

Sorry To Involved You.. Really Feel Sorry..

Can Friend Tell Them How Much U Paid Me , And How Much I Refunded?

Hmm i guess if u really tried hard, u could check with postlaju eventhough u dont have the tracking code..
But if u give details like posting date and address they could check it out....and that is only if within 15 days b4 they trash the records.

Is That I'm A Irresponsible Seller?

Found That Here Can't Gain POSTs Point 1 ..

This post has been edited by SeaMonster: Dec 12 2007, 04:15 PM

the initial buying price from Seamonster was rm200

And he refunded me rm220 after 1wk+ of waiting.

I think he's an ethical person, bearing the 'extra' cost of compensation. I do feel bad for him

But as i see it, this thing will juz go round n round the whole bush

Lolz yeah u dont get postcount +1 here.

So what is the story about irenic complaining about SeaMonster?
Something about HSF and receipt?

Juz to clarify one thing..irenic didnt state the actual date of his time line.

The thursday he's referring in his 1st thread tat he has posted the cpu was 27 November.

I Don't Know Him..

Request For Tracking No. Just Avoid Me..

Keep Chasing His Hsk + Receipt...


And Then Thread Me That Will Report Me..

Then Want Me To Refund Him..

This post has been edited by SeaMonster: Dec 12 2007, 04:25 PM

go to pos laju and ask for detailed poslaju transaction on that day?

That's His Job.. And We Pending For His Update...

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Added on December 12, 2007, 4:26 pmWow.. Topic Going To Be "Red Box" Already..

This post has been edited by SeaMonster: Dec 12 2007, 04:26 PM

Lemme get this clear..

He already bear the cost of his lost proc, means he pays u the extra money worth of this proc rite?
If that case, its not important about the tracking code anymore rite?

Then now u should have also do your part if above is true, rite?

But He Told Me He Lost More Than Me..

Want Me To Bare His Lost.. Share Share..

fine then, u will know how precious the receipt when issue like this come

i'll never throw receipt until buyer confirmed received my shipment

[QUOTE]Message Forwarded From kucingfight

[QUOTE][QUOTE]Message Forwarded From irenic

[QUOTE][QUOTE]why u didnt reply me?

what happen to my box, and my money..

[/QUOTE]


Tracking No. Plz..

Thank You..

I Need To Check With Which Lousy Courier Service

I Will Help You To F*** Them 'KawKaw"
[/QUOTE]


haih the f***ing courier is none else than the post laju..

btw, besides the e2160, how bout my box?

if the e2160 is missing, i have to bear it (RM160!!).. but if the box is missing, shud i bear it as well? (warranty, heatsink) lol.. not fair at all..

i know u're in the safe side since i didnt hold ur money, but u hold my money and my box as well.. so plz considerate!

if both items are missing, then i hope u can pay / refund me some money since legally this 'retail' Q6600 i bought is not retail anymore..

TQ.[/QUOTE]


Here He Told Me..

Let me put this clear.

1. irenic claims he has sent the proc to me , but i didnt receive it.
2. once i've received it, Seamonster will return rm160 to irenic
3. the hsf & box part, it's not my concern, it's between Seamonster & irenic

situation is, irenic is on the 'loosing' side as he still has rm160 with Seamonster

"the box" mentioned is it the box u supposed to send to him? a part of the item he bought rite?

Then what is the reason u dont send to him, since he already pay RM160 compensation for his lost proc?

Afaisee, irenic has done his part by paying extra RM160 to cover the lost proc.
And SeaMonster has done his part by refunding to kucingfight.
But just left the part about SeaMonster and the box and receipt rite?

Yea i get it...
I dont really see u as part of the story actually not really have any connection

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Dec 12 2007, 04:39 PM

I'm Newbie even Install 3D Card 2900XT Also Need To Called AceCombat FewTimes To Confirm, But My Mobo Still Burnt And Sent RMA, Mobo Sold To Forumer After RMA With RM1250 Bundle With Q6600 Processor.

My Mobo Is Asus P5e x38...



I'm Newbie That Called AceCombat And Jerren How To Install XFX 7900GT Gc.. I Not Dare To Install This Time..
Just Yesterday Nite Only.. The Card Havent Installed Yet..


irenic?

He Throw His Receipt As He Is A Senior Member That With 4k POSTs?

plz make it correct.. Seamonster is not middleman.. He is a trader.. do u think if u buy 1 car from a used car shop, the seller is middleman.. and act u r buying a car from the previous owner? NO issit?

i claimed i had sent the proc to the address seamonster requested. i dun even know who lives there.. until this problem happened, only i know he is selling to u..

i dun have to show u the poslaju shipping code, even if i have.. i'm dealing with seamonster, and that's it.. if i lost it, he have to responsible with u (and he did) .. so for ur part, it shudnt b a prob..

it's just between me and seamonster now. thx

thats the prob. when i asked him to do what he shud do, he keeps pointing to the lost processor.. then how to solve lor?

LOL.. i dunno if u are acting or u really dunno.. i ask u to bear the lost of the heatsink + receipt.. I told u many times in PM the processor lost i have to bear it, but why not u bear for the lost heatsink + receipt? it's not fair if i have to bear for both missing stuffs..

i nvr told u con me.. but i said, plz be sincere if the item really arrive or not.. coz i dun have tracking number to check.. but when he said no, i assume no.. i didnt make a big fuss by keep saying that .. LOL..

why shud i provide u dude.. i'm not even deal with u.. i deal with seamonster..

i see he already paid u.. wutever amount he paid to u, then it's up to him..

rite now the problem is i lost the E2160 i sold to seamonster (but he is yet to pay me.. so what's the problem here?)

and at the same time he lost my hsf + receipt (which i already paid)

and his inability to recognize the problem here leads to this ..

as i said, even if u pay rm1k to him, it doesnt related me at all.. coz u owe me heatsink and receipt.. just that..

he is an ethical person for u coz he solved u in a good way..

but he failed to keep his ethical attitute with everyone and in the case, with me...

You Own Me E2160 Full Set..

newbie or not, receipt can save u when it needed
no need follow the other(s), can think easily marr..

100/ 4k even 15k of postage means nothing..

"i nvr told u con me.. but i said, plz be sincere if the item really arrive or not.. coz i dun have tracking number to check.. but when he said no, i assume no.. i didnt make a big fuss by keep saying that .. LOL.."

Nice U-Turn...

U Really Good In Car.. What Buy Card What Car ....
U - Turn So Nice... Now..

ok fine. i'm 'clean here.

- i'm off here and nothing to do with u guys -

- END-

Me Too..

Rain Heavy Here... Line Not Really Smooth Now..

irenic.. Good Luck

i want u to bear the lost of the heatsink + receipt coz i lost more than just the cost of the heatsink.. u know why? i need the receipt to prove it as retail one.. and those 2 stuffs are needed for warranty purpose..

do u think i really want heatsink? i've few q6600 hsf (the one with copper base) lying .. i can snap pic for u..

but is that what i want? i just need those 2 stuffs to ensure the mine is a 'retail' one..

so now u lost it, admit it la .. u havent done ur part..

u r absolutely right.. but i already said i accept my fault for loosing the receipt, that's why i wont ask for the Rm160 .. but i want him to be responsible for the hsf + receipt too..

since he makes a big fuss for it, maybe i can negatively say act he is selling me an OEM processor?

this is not about junior or senior.. yeah i am a senior member... i throw my receipt.. but i accept my mistake.. and u? junior member, lost ur receipt, and dun want to accept ur mistake.. owh do u mean i have to forgive u coz u r newbie? need guidance ? if so, think logically what is the thread is all about.. i dun really care bout money.. summore it is just a damn heatsink.. i just want u to accept ur mistake and be responsible.. even at the end i offered u to just accept ur mistake and that's fine for me.. settle.. but u refuse..

owhh i want to think negative as well..

1) u might be doing this coz u actually dun have the hsf, box and receipt... the proc is maybe an OEM one..

2) u are so sad coz failed to get RM40 profits from the E2160, so u want to take revenge and dun want to give me my stuff (be remind that the hsf and receipt is mine since i already paid to u)

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Added on December 12, 2007, 4:50 pmOWN or OWE?

i didnt owe u coz i'm selling to u the E2160 and u didnt pay me any cents for that..

if u meant OWN, i dunno how to explain

This post has been edited by irenic: Dec 12 2007, 04:50 PM

Sorry , I Throw My Receipt..

fraud is a crime
OEM will always OEM even provide the HSF/ receipt

Sea Monster , please dont act childish here posting stupid comments.

Now its cleary show of that everything has settle between kucingfight.
Its u that still left Heatsink + receipt that havent sent to irenic.

I cannot see why Irenic is wrong now.

And please no more stupid post from you
thank you

I'm Noob Ma..

Sorry Loh..

Own or What I Don't Know La.. Sorry My English Very Very Bad...

U Trade Your E2160 To Me.. U Din't Sell To Me...

Btw how do u differentiate OEM with non?
Just the receipt?

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Added on December 12, 2007, 4:55 pmSo irenic paid RM160 to cover the lost of the proc.

So u got nothing to lose, except the RM10 u paid to kucingfight..

So why dont u send or cover the lost of your HSF and receipt?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Dec 12 2007, 04:55 PM

hey, i dun think u get what i meant..

for the receipt both of us are wrong.. loosing it..

but a good seller is not just by selling cheap stuff, or give highest offer.. but also how they offer their after sale service.. in this case, i buy from u a Q6600 retail complete.. but u only gave me proc and lost the other stuffs..

and how u gonna be responsible for it?

do u accept ur mistake for not being responsible with it earlier?

that's why i tried to tell u and i asked u to admit ur mistake for that (irresponsible), but u refuse to do it in PM..

so now a public apologize for being irresponsible will settle everything..

I wonder if Pos Office will cooperate by checking what package send by
irenic and seamonster. If yes, then you guys will have proof.

sorry mate, i cant compare OEM proc or retailed if both comes with original HSF

manufacturer able to scan it i believe..

^^ serial number

U Seem Like Aviod Your Mistake U Failed To Send My E2160 To Me..

What do u mean?

He paid u RM160 to cover the cost of the E2160 rite?

yeah, all i want is the prove of the retail processor i bought..

i hate to think negative, coz i also have no prove to say that this is an OEM proc.. just bcoz i dunno it doesnt mean it is an OEM..

and just bcoz he failed to show his poslaju receipt, it doesnt mean he act dun have the stuffs..

but if can think the other way round, so do i.. and that's just reveal his mistake..more mistake i mean..


i dun care if this is OEM or retail... i've been thinking to keep the proc as backup once penryn is released.. or maybe i can sell at very2 low price due to lack of details (warranty status esp..)


and rite now i dun think he will gives me the heatsink or receipt since he said he already posted to me.. but if he lied, then i can simply forget this matter if he post me the receipt later on.. Only receipt is enuff, no need hsf.. i can just think this as one of problem in online dealing

and public apologize is a must...

Noob is not an excuse to avoid this situation

Earlier irenic already say he pay full price (which is RM700) because he want the proc to be in his hand first before trade the E2160 to you for the refund of RM160. NOT trade yet. You only trade it after you refund RM160 to irenic and you receive the E2160. So at this situation now, irenic is buying this proc from you and haven't trade yet because the package missing. AND if buying from you should get the full package (means the receipts and HSF) rite?

to u or to kucing?

or u sell the e2160 to other ppl??

If this is the situation now, i guess seamonster have to send irenic the receipt + hsf asap.
he din owe u anything now, u just like selling him a retail Q6600 with the price of rm700, right?

no.. it's not ur E2160 yet.. coz u havent paid me anything LOL.. dont be too silly lar.. open ur eyes and minds.. and think a bit!

u r absolutely right..

Irenic sent the proc directly to kucingfight, so that is out of the question.

the easiest way i think to solve now, irenic request to refund & send the so called RETAILED Q6600 to seamonster

seamonster then, have to refund irenic money..

case closed

yeah.. i sent the item directly to one address in shah alam.. later he asked me whether i already sent the item to his boss.. coz his boss already asking..

i thought it's really his boss coz i know he owns a shop in pahang.. i thought in shah alam is really his boss..

if i know it's kucingfight, maybe can just COD in cyberjaya? coz last time i cod with him in cyberjaya.. but i dunno whether he stills around here or not..

send back the packages lost again how?

thats one is they problem..

Clear me up.kucingfight already get his money back.Now the problem is between seamonster and irenic.The main problem is the processor still havent arrive even after 1 week right?

Maybe the problem is f***g Pos Laju.My package got delivered after 1 week from the date I posted last week.The one who posted the item should go to post office and try check the postal.

Come on Seamonster,you have great reputation on LYN.Clear this mess quickly.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Dec 12 2007, 05:22 PM

the best way now is for someone named izzani to come in front and provide prove that the Q6600 is retail..
ur cooperation will be much appreciated



yeah after consulting few ly.net members, most of them said seamonster might be cheating me by selling OEM proc.. so the best way is to ask for full refund..


act it is very simple.. if lost again, and i dun have receipt, i'll bear the loss..

if i have the receipt, i wont have to bear the loss, but we can ask poslaju to track the parcel..

it's so simple yet someone named seamonster cant understand.. hmmm

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Added on December 12, 2007, 5:29 pmit's bcoz of his so called reputation he really eagers asking me to open this thread.. he said he wants to challenge me.. and he is so free until he likes to see how a junior member fight against 4k posts senior memberr.. lol..

for me it's not about seniority..even that guy is moderator, elite, staff, safe trader or 10 stars member also if he is wrong, than he is wrong.. the reputation wont cover up ur mistake..

like me, i already a senior member and already granted a safe trader.. can i easily blame any prob to my buyer or selles just bcoz of this reputation? NO! i still have to follow rules and ethics to follow.. if i break it, i have to be responsible..

This post has been edited by irenic: Dec 12 2007, 05:29 PM

@seamonster
u just call forumer name@nick izzani to come here..let him@her clear all this thing out...whether that proc really retail...just provide his nick at LYN..so
easy for TS to ask him personally...

since u also lost receipt for that proc...that receipt the only one can prove that proc retail not oem...except u previous owner come here and clarify it...

just make public apologize to TS...

This the 'original' owner page
http://forum.lowyat.net/user/izzani

Check it out.But he is been offline for 2 days.

1.From what I read,Irenic paid extra RM160 as a safekeep to Seamonster pending for the arrival of the E2160 processor he sent using Pos Laju and then Seamonster already sent the HSF+receipt to him with Pos Laju.

2.Both party never keep receipt and tak ada bagi tracking number and item didn't arrive.So I think the best way is Seamonster should only refund back a small sum to Irenic since it is not Seamonster's fault that the E2160 processor went missing.

3.All in all both party are wrong cause both of you lost the receipt and cannot trace the item.

4.Seamonster should return back a sum which is more or less to cover the price of heatsink and the rest of the money he keeps it.

5.Seamonster should also give him back or issue a new receipt for the Q6600 processor if he still can prove he bought it from ther retailer.

Which part u saw SeaMonster posted the HSF and receipt?

I think i only saw he posted the proc itself.

He said he posted it but lost also and he didn't keep the receipt.So Seamonster must pay Irenic back the sum equal to or same as the price of the HSF

I only know SeaMonster posted something to irenic and he already got it..
And then something about HSF and receipt getting lost, means i assume it wasnt sent together with the proc.

Nonetheless, since the HSF and receipt is lost, then SeaMonster should compensate to irenic or refund if irenic feared its an OEM proc.

In short, we can split everything into 3 seperate deals.

Q6600 between seamonster and irenic
irenic paid the full price. irenic claimed to receive the processor but not the receipt or the heatsink.
Conclusion: seamonster still owes irenic the heatsink and receipt

E2160 between irenic and seamonster
irenic claimed to have sent out the processor. However, the processor is claimed to have not arrived. Due to irenic not being able to provide proof of sending (lost of receipt), irenic is to bear the loss. seamonster has not paid anything for the processor. No refund needed
Conclusion: Deal is considered void. Case closed

E2160 between kucingfight and seamonster
kucingfight paid seamonster for the processor. The processor did not arrive. seamonster refunded kucingfight with compensation (very good dealer move).
Conclusion: Deal is considered cancelled. Case closed.

So after reviewing the 3 deals, 2 are "closed" except 1. seamonster still owes irenic the heatsink and receipt. Unless there is some missing information, that is the obvious solution.

This post has been edited by crazy25kid: Dec 12 2007, 06:03 PM

wah complicated case... my suggestion would be...

irenic lost processor... so he should pay for it.
seamonster lost HSF+receipt... so he should pay for it.

Irenic holds seamonster processor, he should return it
seamonster holds Irenic money, he should return it

kuching fight get extra RM20 should return it.

post malaysia cost... shared between seamonster and Irenic. Consider having a teh-tarik sesson lah.

hmm... did I solve the problem ?

TS u should pm him to come here..just to clarify that proc retail...

Wah........Life so easy.....
Maybe really could solve the problem.But the two of them are sure that they already posted the items right?As I told before this could be pos laju problem.

That is the one best conclusion I've seen so far.

As for the doubt that the q6600 is an OEM proc, if seamonster cannot prove that it's retail, Irenic deserves a full refund and post back the tray proc sent to him. This time, keep the receipt and provide the tracking number.

I think better for Irenic to just return the processor and claim his money back because without resit it dosen't matter wheter OEM or retail,he cannot claim warranty.

make life easy
the deal irenic with kucingfight is void
and if the hsf and receipt still there seamonster shud sent it to irenic

its like irenic buy q6600 price + e2160 price 700+200 rite?
......

so only irenic is loosing sumting
not u seamonster
xcept rm20 la....
the ethical refund

and if the receipt and boxhsf lost
sell like others oem
oem shud be?
600-650?
so irenic pay 700 rite?
seamonster refund 50-100

"If the Q6600 really RETAILED, why seamonster never ship it together with cpu??"..

hmm waiting for seamonster gonna say.. i think all guys already sum everything he shud do..

thx

hahaa.. he might waiting for his partner "the guy he bought the q6600" to come here to justify it(Q6600) as retailed

I traded with both parties before.
both fo them are seller and buyer.

anyway,i believe that the poslaju at irenic place is horrible and terrible,right irenic?still remember our deal right?

anyway,it's very easy here.

1.
Since irenic now starting to doubt about the proc is tray proc,we can just wait for izzani answer to prove that the proc is retail and it's from izzani.as long as it's retail,niothing big here except for the receipt and heat sink fan.

now,
if the proc proven to be the retail unit,then irenic satisfy,after that,if seamonster failed to send out the heat sink and receipt,irenic can discuss with seamonster how much to get abck since the package is not as mentioned.

RM700 is for Q6600,heat sink and receipt

since now no heat sink and receipt,irenic entitled to get some money back.it's all about irenic and seamonster how to settle.

DONT DRAG KUCINGFIGHT INTO THIS CASE ANYMORE,now is between irenic and seamonster.

2 ways to settle:
-Irenic get some refund from seamonster from the heat sink and receipt
-Seamonster prove the Q6600 is retail and ship out the heat sink and receipt.

NEXT TIME,AS A GOOD TRADER,PLS KEEP UR TRACKING RECEIPT UNTIL BUYER GET THE ITEM.
Simple only,just a piece of paper,keep for one day also cannot meh?

This thread's dispute is idiotic. People trawling the LYN pages to buy from forumers and then sell it back again to forumers aren't traders or doing any real business.
In my books, these people are purely opportunists who fail to see the consequences of this sort of buy & sell system. Messy isn't it?

1) The fact remains, if SeaMonster had advertised and sold the Q6600 as a retail CPU to TS, he needs to ensure this part of the bargain is honored. Not providing the original receipt means that the origins of that CPU is questionable. In addition, RM700 was its full price as paid by TS. I wonder how much profit did SeaMonster make out of this Q6600 sale, huh?

2) Reciting back the story, RM160 will be refunded back to TS once he traded in his E2160. Obviously this didn't happen as the package went into a black hole. SeaMonster's other deal goes sour as that E2160 was in turn sold to Kucingfight for RM200, which he added RM20 as a sort of "apology".

- why in god's name is RM20 added as an offer of "apology". A simple apology and full refund would have been enough for such a small amount. To curry favour?
- disputing & complaining how the package has been lost by Pos Laju doesn't change anything in 1) above

Good thing TS brought this up. I was looking through the LYN CPU,Mobo section trying to find a particular CPU and saw several posts from SeaMonster buying stuffs and then also selling them.
I remembered thinking, wtf is going on?

it's izzani.. i'll pm him and see if he can provides any info..

yeah poslaju is damn horrible.. but i have no choice in using them except few stuffs i'll be using skynet.. lately i've been using skynet to send stuffs to my buyer due to lack of confidence with the poslaju and depends on hurriness of the buyer..


well i brought this up bcoz it's seamonster who asked me to do so.. for the reasons i said earlier, and he also mentioned in PM he wants to be famous...

@SeaMonster
u better prove that u sold retail proc to irenic...
and why u didnt post proc along with hsf and receipt...
isnt proc and hsf come along together with a box..
i bought 6 proc so far..retail..n it is come with hsf n box..
btw...irenic already bear his own cost for his mistake..(losing post laju receipt)
and its obvious that he already took action for his part...
and now..DO YOUR PART for your own mistake..

I think that Q6600 seamonster bought from me.

Yes, i sold without HSF and no receipt.

But i confirmed its retail.

This post has been edited by izzani: Dec 12 2007, 09:53 PM

good to hear that..now all know that proc is retail..1st owner didn't provide hsf and receipt...so how seamonster want pos that proc...

retail or OEM can be checked through online.
anyway,glad to hear that it's retail.

Irenic,this solved ur doubt,now it's only seamonster to see hwo to settle the hsf and receipt case.

that means seamonster lied to me by saying he already posted the hsf and receipt hehe.. kantoii..

and izzani, how can u confirm it is retail? any screesnhot of ur receipt? and the pics of ur box? to ensure same codenumber as the one i'm using rite now?

plz help me, if anything goes wrong, i wont claim anything from u.. dun worry..

thx

so how's in the 1st place that deal said to have the procs + heatsink + receipt?

maybe heatsink can replaced....but receipt?? yikeesss

that means, it is proven that seamonster is lying in my deal..

1) saying he has the hsf + receipt..

2) saying he already posted it, while actually he dont has the items..


So now wut.. guys, whut shud i do?


btw this is quote i got from izzani in the PM..



too bad he said he already lost the box, hsf, receipts..


so i wonder how on earth seamonster claimed that he got the items from izzani .. LOL

the sound doesnt make sense..

ori HSF + receipt lost.. how to claim warranty later?
direct intel nia??

and in the world we are living rite now, only words are not enuff.. how to prove it is a real retail one without receipt of purchase or box that shows the same stepping as the one i'm using...

izzani has tried his best to show the pic, and to give guarantee bout the retail proc..

but to anyone who is in my boot, does those makes ur life easier? no.. in case there's something goes wrong with the cpu, still i cant do anything eventhough it is a retail one..


so since Seamonster is online but simply dun want to enter this thread (so far), whut shud i do? i want him to be responsible.. i dun want him to keep selling stuff outthere, pretend like this is not related to him.. hope mod can help me solving this case..

he need a nice "smart tag".. so ppl wont deal with him until this case solve

This post has been edited by gengstapo: Dec 12 2007, 11:30 PM

smart tag???sound nice

now i'm discussing with him in PM.. will let u know u whats the end of it..

i think...

Seamonster deal wif two ppl for the E2160, kucingfight and someone(called A),
then ask TS post the item to A only,

A received the item, kucingfight get nothing~
and the item is posted by TS, so Seamonster pointed to TS din post the E2160,
but he no need responsible with it bcos the item is posted by TS...

he refund +20bucks to kucingfight, actually he oredi earn a E2160 money,
lost 20bucks but...... errmmm


just my 2 cent

dont simply say anything without prove,keep the 4 cent to urself.

so right now he has lost the sink and receipt with the box.

irenic,i think replace with one 775 hsf can get the wearranty since the heat sink has no any ID on it.

huhu it's hard to prove it.. and i rather not to think that far coz it's no good to have a very2 negative thinking

well yeah.. but rite now seems seamonster is being responsible by offering me to return the q6600..
so what u guys think?

This post has been edited by irenic: Dec 13 2007, 12:37 AM