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The questions of who, what, where and when isn't really much of an issue here. I believe major epeening threads which merely stroke ones ego will always be target for flamers and the likes. This is akin to the argument of post counts ages ago which goes something like "Oh look you have 1 post and I have 3004002 posts. This means my package is longer, thicker and squirts farther than yours". If everyone starts a forum thread with the word "Constructive" in their mind I think we will be more happy people.

As far as educating people on how not to be a flamer, I would think that we Malaysians are smart enough to already know. The only thing I suspect we Malaysians lack is the ability to see past criticism and sarcasm.

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Added on December 12, 2007, 5:01 pmWhat I'm trying to say is, women these days are more aware of their sexuality and getting less inhibited with it. This in turn leads to the notion that Love=Sex being totally dropped.

Don't get me wrong here, I totally agree that women have been sexually active 10 years ago and more definitely. What I'm merely stating is that the current mindset of women when it comes to sex is different from what you would find in a women 10 years ago.

This post has been edited by loafer: Dec 13 2007, 02:07 AM

Actually, i wouldnt agree on the example of:

try imagining some new forumer comes in, with 0 post count, flaming some old skool forumer that has 3004002 post counts (provided they are legit non-spammed posts), in a 3rd person's view, most likely you're going to take the one with the most post count when it comes to post credibility. of course, this is always subjected to the thread topic/contents, the posts being posted by both sides, and of course the contents of the flame posts. But you get the idea that YES, it CAN actually give a benchmark on one's credibility, so indirectly yes, said poster with 3004002 post would prolly have a package thats longer, thicker, and squirts further.

is something starting again??

Of course, that's assuming that we're talking about flamers and people who doesn't know what they're talking or debating about. You must realize not everyone flames a thread for the sake of trolling or posting random crap. There has been lots of credible debates out there only to have one's thought cut off just because you decided to be a casual reader rather than an opinionated reader. Not everyone with 30004010 posts know what they're talking about.

So like I mentioned earlier, being constructive and being able to see past sarcasm and criticism would probably be one of the better ways to "rejuvenate" the WoW forums.

Well said, if theres is any disagreement in this post, i would have to say, rather than actually putting effort in being constructive, seeing past sarcasm and criticism, id go with "take internet with a pinch of salt". if even half of the people does that on LYN WoW boards, things would be so much more lively imo, be it the flames or having serious constructive debates.

No.. I can't agree with you here Q. Have you seen the amount of nonsensical posts jas has been posting lately?
It's like he gets an euphoric orgasm each time he posts something... even if its just "I just cummed while owning noob #13213213908392131 on wow"

Credibility is given where it's due. But never discount the views of the new guy. Unless they spout garbage nonstop

One thing Malaysians lack is the disabilty to see past sarcasm and new ideas. Things are taken too seriously and personally. Most of us are brought up where 'image' (or the Cantonese call 'Mien'/Face) is extremely important. Thus, when one's believe/perception is questioned, his defensive mechanism just activates without any grasp of the situation which will eventually lead to a heated argument instead of an open discussion where there are gives and takes.

It is due to this that regardless of what another says, one will always stick to his guns and ridicule other people's ideas without even using a single grey cell. Admitting an error is seen as a sin.

Just don't feed the trolls and stick to constructive arguments.

Do you think we'll ever get a malaysian server?
or at least a singapore one?

well, for my part, i took him with a pinch of salt and for the most part, /ignored him. hope this helps lol.

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Added on December 13, 2007, 12:49 pmnope.

there were talks about a singapore server though, but until now nothing

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 13 2007, 12:49 PM

agree with you 100% too bad this can never ever change....this always occours in malaysians forum's or forums that malaysians troll's in. for example:LYN,RO guardians....and 1 more that i forgoten

Hmm....well, you all gotta admit that WoW LYN Forum has gotten better, or worst depending on how one looks at it.

I don't see the one-sentence trolls anymore though compared to a year ago when I first started reading this.

w00t !!

you wanna see again? just above my post? lulz

Well, the downside of kinda putting up more "knowledgeable" posts is that we're indirectly intimidating people.

that never bothered me. just the people that take it as serious as cancer does.

There shouldnt be any downside on putting up informative posts. =/

Sometimes it is. And I guess all of us have been guilty of a bit of flaming here and there, some more than others.