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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙ V3, Official Thread

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post Mar 4 2008, 01:08 AM

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It's a waste if Persona dont have CPS. Seriously.
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post Mar 4 2008, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Mar 4 2008, 01:08 AM)
It's a waste if Persona dont have CPS. Seriously.
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Marketing strategy perhaps...as they don wanna kill gen2 or waja cps sales
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post Mar 4 2008, 01:12 AM

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Gen2 and Persona is same like Wira.
Everything will same no matter the wira is sedan or aeroback.
It should be in Persona and Gen2 also.


Added on March 4, 2008, 1:14 amBut VIM in persona is a good choice also.
Waja as premium, gen2 as spirited driving while persona as fc saving.

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post Mar 4 2008, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Mar 4 2008, 01:12 AM)
Gen2 and Persona is same like Wira.
Everything will same no matter the wira is sedan or aeroback.
It should be in Persona and Gen2 also.
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dunnolah bro..but if persona to have cps engine then it's good news to consumers they'll have more choice
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post Mar 4 2008, 08:38 AM

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if the persona HL have CPS, that's mean an extra RM5k. atm RM60k, it automatically kills the ML Gen2!
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Mar 4 2008, 08:38 AM)
if the persona HL have CPS, that's mean an extra RM5k. atm RM60k, it automatically kills the ML Gen2!
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That's why i've said before maybe it's because of Proton's marketing strategy... smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 11:39 AM

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i dun care wht they doing, can someone tell me if we can install iafm in our current car now?

coz gen2 cps n iafm is oledi out, and as i know gen2 engine placemnt in the bay is same like persona...

so plz do tell me whether i can install or not cry.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ultima @ Mar 4 2008, 11:39 AM)
i dun care wht they doing, can someone tell me if we can install iafm in our current car now?

coz gen2 cps n iafm is oledi out, and as i know gen2 engine placemnt in the bay is same like persona...

so plz do tell me whether i can install or not cry.gif
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too bad to tell u, CANNOT tongue.gif whistling.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Mar 4 2008, 11:47 AM)
too bad to tell u, CANNOT tongue.gif whistling.gif
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Care to give details why u so confident CANNOT?


Added on March 4, 2008, 12:58 pm
QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Mar 4 2008, 11:47 AM)
too bad to tell u, CANNOT tongue.gif whistling.gif
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Care to explain why u so confident CANNOT?

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post Mar 4 2008, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ultima @ Mar 4 2008, 11:39 AM)
i dun care wht they doing, can someone tell me if we can install iafm in our current car now?

coz gen2 cps n iafm is oledi out, and as i know gen2 engine placemnt in the bay is same like persona...

so plz do tell me whether i can install or not cry.gif
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IMHO, its possible to fit the IAFM due to the modular design of the Campro engine. Just my 2cent.
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post Mar 4 2008, 01:38 PM

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i tot persona has IAFM adi? and wat about CPS? persona dun have? wat's the purpose?
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post Mar 4 2008, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Mar 4 2008, 12:57 PM)
Care to give details why u so confident CANNOT?


Added on March 4, 2008, 12:58 pm
Care to explain why u so confident CANNOT?
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lol, can lar... was just trying to scare him tongue.gif make him regret! no offence sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Mar 4 2008, 01:53 PM)
lol, can lar... was just trying to scare him tongue.gif make him regret! no offence sweat.gif
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im having a heart attack at tht moment sweat.gif tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 07:16 PM

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how much to fix the iamf to the older model persona
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post Mar 4 2008, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Mar 4 2008, 01:01 AM)
i don't think h-line will have cps...but maybe for special edition one in the future? smile.gif
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Persona don't have a Manual HL version. Maybe a CPS Persona HL is somehing to look foward to smile.gif

According to MTM article

"This engine, designated Campro CPS, also has a variable intake manifold (VIM) which works like IAFM but is more sophisticated in that it also interfaces with the Engine Control Unit (ECU), thereby having more precise operation."

So IAFM not connected to ECU? If so then can put into normal campro with no problem
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post Mar 4 2008, 09:35 PM

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Proton plans own high performance engines

KUALA LUMPUR: Proton Holdings Bhd is in negotiations with several foreign parties to develop its own high performance engines, managing director Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir said.

"Work is under way to explore the next 1.8- and 2.0-litre engines. We are in talks with several foreign parties and will announce something by mid-year," he told reporters after the unveiling of the new GEN.2 yesterday.

Moving into higher-performance engines was a must for Proton to remain competitive, he said, adding that the national carmaker was also considering developing diesel-powered engines.

Going forward, the next generation and higher segment (Proton) cars will need 1.8- and a 2.0-litre derivatives. A lot of markets are migrating from petrol to diesel and it is important for Proton not to be left behind," he said.

"The markets that we want to penetrate like India and China have high demand for diesel and for us not to have diesel engines incorporated in our cars would be a mistake."

He said Proton was only considering foreign partners as local parties would not be able to provide Proton the desired technology to move forward.

"I do not think a local partner can offer us the capability to develop a 'next level' engine," he said, adding that an eventual tie-up should finalise Proton's engine product planning for the next five years.

On Proton's recent decision to make inroads in India, Syed Zainal said: "We are focusing a lot of efforts to go there and will make an announcement when the time is right."

Meanwhile, he said Proton was targeting to sell at least 1,500 units of the facelifted GEN.2 monthly.

"We have set the target based on the response for the Persona and new Saga," he said, adding that about 38,000 bookings for the new Saga had been registered since its launch in January.

Syed Zainal said should demand exceed expectation, Proton would ramp up capacity to produce 2,500 to 3,000 units of the new GEN.2 per month.

The car, which was launched late last year at the Thailand Motor Show, would be rolled out for export to Britain, Australia, Indonesia and the Middle East this year, he said.

Syed Zainal added that the biggest market for the (old) GEN.2 was Iran, with 4,000 to 5,000 units being exported yearly.

Targeted at the younger buyer, the new GEN.2 comes with a new sporty look and a (new) CAM profile-switching (CPS) engine that boasts better pick up compared with its predecessor.

The car comes in both manual and automatic transmission and is available in four colours. Prices range from RM53,488 to RM60,488 (on the road).

Syed Zainal said the GEN.2 would be available in showrooms by the end of the week.

Going forward, Proton is gearing up for the launch of its first MPV, slated for March next year.

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...38&sec=business
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yeah icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
just last week go for my friends wedding. we use a few cars upon go to fetch the bride, 1 of them is my persona and another myvi.
during going up hill at jelapang there i shift to 3rd gear rev up the engine all the way to 150km thumbup.gif
easily tapau that underpowered myvi brows.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Mar 4 2008, 10:13 PM)
yeah icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
just last week go for my friends wedding. we use a few cars upon go to fetch the bride, 1 of them is my persona and another myvi.
during going up hill at jelapang there i shift to 3rd gear rev up the engine all the way to 150km thumbup.gif
easily tapau that underpowered myvi brows.gif
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rclxm9.gif what's the rpm...
tapao DeeVeeVeeTee, don't playx2



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QUOTE(caviars @ Mar 4 2008, 09:59 PM)
According to MTM article

"This engine, designated Campro CPS, also has a variable intake manifold (VIM) which works like IAFM but is more sophisticated in that it also interfaces with the Engine Control Unit (ECU), thereby having more precise operation."

So IAFM not connected to ECU?  If so then can put into normal campro with no problem
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was thinking the same too.. if can plug and play good lar.

but don't know whether the thing REALLY works or not.. if it's not controlled by the ECU, then how.. cincai let the air flow in? mechanically controlled? how.. by the throttle? tongue.gif somemore it is made of plastic.


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QUOTE(ralf @ Mar 4 2008, 11:40 PM)
rclxm9.gif what's the rpm...
tapao DeeVeeVeeTee, don't playx2
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want to know the rpm brows.gif
persona_170km/h

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