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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with **V9**, SIE "Saga Iswara Enthusiasts"

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post Dec 13 2007, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 13 2007, 06:19 PM)
wrong tuning also can get 20cent per km? Wah.. My normal carb, already 19cent per km. If weber with perfect tuning, 15cent per km? Weber is cheap. But mod the weber tapak expensive.  sweat.gif
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perfect tuning i never try before whats the fuel consumption... if i got i also dun need to be in dilemma now... rclxub.gif
fabricate the adaptor can be cheap or expensive.... dcnf is cheap, around 100bucks can get.... mine, dgv, cost about rm180... ramly had to send my carb to machine shop to fabricate the adaptor for me on the spot... sweat.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 13 2007, 07:38 PM)
just wondering about the fender bar
if the guy can drill through the metal with a battery powered hand drill, the metal cant be very thick or very hard
so, what kind of force transfer will that point have?
if the bar is a rigid system, then the surrounding metal will be flexing massively and this would be very bad for the car body
the two anchored to the door hinge points are probably abit more robust as they were designed to be anchor points...
but still, their load would be static load, not dynamic load
so the appropriateness of anchoring there is also questionable to a certain extent

im not saying the bar wont make a diff
i dont know and i wont comment on that
but its just that from the looks of it, the car body is going to be massively fatigued (unneccessarily) by the installation of this bar


Added on December 13, 2007, 7:58 pm

thats gona increase your fc
its a double butterfly
the iswara stock carbie uses a linear air flow carburator
the butterfly flap gives a non linear (exponential) air flow increase
the linear air flow carbie is practically a mechanical EFI
next to injection, this is the best
and FYI, with my 6month old 1.3 which hasnt even worn in yet properly, im getting 12.8km/L which works out to 15cents/km
not to mention next year petrol prolly gona be 2.50 or 2.60 per liter
the weber aint gonna help your wallet...
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yeap... i read in somewhere before (thanks for reminding me).... those bars actually does increase fatigue on certain parts of ur chassis... although in overall, it improves performance....
i guess the 3rd point doesnt do much in improving handling... someones said before (forgot its drex or khguan), he used 2point and 3point fender bar in his wira before... not much difference....

yeap... weber 32/36 dgv 5a is a progressive carb... its dual barrel, primary and secondary, which opens one at a time... different with dcnf or dcoe where both of their butterfly flap opens together....
well, its this characteristic that fascinates me much about the power delivery.... when the second barrel opens, u can feel an extra surge of power... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Dec 13 2007, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(andychan @ Dec 13 2007, 08:45 PM)
neosaint99 is it manual car dont have clutch oil?
i dono for other car lah but waja i see have it ?
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u mean clutch pump ahh??... cars like waja n wira, they use hydraulic clutch pump... while ours use cable saja....
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post Dec 14 2007, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 13 2007, 11:09 PM)
hello guys/sifoos..

wana ask smthng. the CAI thingy, will it give same effect to my old saga with stock carburator same as the effect it gives to those EFI engine like wira 4g15?

i know the purpose of this CAI thingy is to suck in cold air instead of hot air that circulating under the hood. im just curious about the effect to my old carb saga. biggrin.gif

thanx in advance.
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yeah... got effect... nod.gif nod.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Dec 14 2007, 01:38 AM)
yeah tats wat im reali into DGV instead of DCNF or DCOE.. haha
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post Dec 14 2007, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Dec 14 2007, 02:18 AM)
erm.. still thinkin.. now kinda on tight budget.. take it slow.. haha
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post Dec 14 2007, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 14 2007, 09:40 AM)
hey guys. need help here.

what is causing this problem ar? if u dunnow what is that, it is a leakage of engine oil i think? rite? so, y this happen? any solution?

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sry for my noobness and unclear picture sad.gif
and another one,

when i was washing my clothes just now, i found this. its from washing machine by the way. but, if i want to mod it to become a CAI can ar? hahaha.....just curious only biggrin.gif

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yeap.... oil sump leaking... remove it and change the seal around it can adi.... pretty easy if u know how... hehe... all u have to do is get a new rubber gasket and some sealant... remove the oil sump, replace the old worn out rubber gasket and apply some sealant around it... icon_rolleyes.gif

that hose is jz about 1inch la... where got enough to use... wanna buy mine??...

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/317607
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 14 2007, 10:07 AM)
ic....thanx bro for ur offer. will think about it after this  icon_rolleyes.gif

by the way, about the rubber gasket thingy. how much?

i mean all the item need to replace to prevent that problem, what are they?

*rubber gasket
*sealant

anymore? and roughly how much?

i dun think i can do it though. just need to know exactly the thing that is needed to replace so that i can buy it by myself perhaps?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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if u planning to send to workshop, jz buy the rubber gasket for oil sump enough lor... workshops will have the sealant....
if u planning to diy, here's the list...
- new oil sump rubber gasket
- high temp sealant
- car jack
- jack stand
- spanar
- screwdriver
- newspaper

u will need to replace with new engine oil after that... so, do it when its about time to change engine oil... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Dec 14 2007, 10:52 AM)
whats the offset of the iswara?
last time bought rims without knowing anything,
result,
car vibrates after 120km/h
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offset got nothing to do with vibration ma... if ur wheel rubs against inner/outer arch only talk about offset lah...
vibration mostly caused by imbalanced wheel.... go do wheel balancing... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(andychan @ Dec 14 2007, 11:16 AM)
maybe the new saga run in 2.0 v6 muahahahaha
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u give me ah??.. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(yewwing @ Dec 14 2007, 11:29 AM)
That car will cost around RM30, 000, still haven't comfirm yet...cheap car..go get it
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around rm40k+ range la at least...

QUOTE(popopi @ Dec 14 2007, 12:01 PM)
Ei, dear sifus...

car problem leh....

when driving,,, braking, accelerating.... cornering.... over bump..
the right side(not sure where actually) will come out sound like ("tak tak, tak tak..... tak...)  very loud lor.... is that something going losse? should not be suspension problem cos i already ketat it at workshop... the sound comes from the side door.... not sure where.. buy very geli.....

someone here face this problem before? when service time i also dunno what to tell the proton ppl....
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cv joint??... unsure.gif

QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Dec 14 2007, 02:17 PM)
hehehe... maybe next time 1st...

wait till i *loose rope monkey*  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(popopi @ Dec 14 2007, 02:50 PM)
erm, what s cv joint?? please enlighten me.....

where is that?
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at the end of ur driveshaft... behind ur wheel hub... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(popopi @ Dec 14 2007, 03:16 PM)
erm, but the engine comes from the side of the car..... is that related.... normal driving i will hear from behing me... at the right back.. sometimes just the sound from below me.....

so, i will tell the proton guy to check on that place.....
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ooo... from the back ahh??... never tell early... cis.... shakehead.gif

den could be many reasons lo... suspension linkage there got many thing... remove wheel and check each one of them.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 14 2007, 05:03 PM)
HID for projector headlamp is ok rite?

Will not glare at the incoming traffic?
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it depends... if ur light is misalligned, even projector headlamp also useless...

QUOTE(popopi @ Dec 14 2007, 05:17 PM)
ohh... thanks....

just my another 2 cent.... will there be problem at the car chasis that will cause this sound? like erm... the bone cracking? or something dangerous?

haha, what i heard... sometimes the sound comes from below me... sometimes from behind.... sometimes from my side...... anyting to do with the door? erm.... haha... just want to know all posibilities.... so that i can tell the proton guy... and this is my LAST free service charge visit to proton. next time i will need to pay liao.... cry.gif
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chassis wont so easy break la.... unless if u put ur car under heavy stress all the time, for example playing drift n slide here n there.... this can accelerate metal fatigue.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 14 2007, 06:33 PM)
erm,...the iswara doesnt have a chasis
a chasis is basically a metal frame onto which everything is built
lorrys n busses still do have chasis

many cars nowdays use channeled sheet metal
the body of the car is the frame
there is no discrete frame in the car

check out the delorean DMC12
it has a very unique chasis
really cool! thumbup.gif
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saga iswara chassis metal frame looks like this....

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Added on December 14, 2007, 10:13 pm
QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 14 2007, 10:06 PM)
Today i went to best kit at pandan indah to ask further about bodykit. i already ready that go there ask about custom, sure kena lan si 99 since I only driving lmst, while most car I see is, subaru, lancer, 350z, supra and got alot sport car there even i saw the Impak maksima cefiro there. Then only i know, most of the impak maksima car done the bodykit at there. When I entered the shop, I was serve well by the boss even he saw my car there. Then, he showed me alot of bodykit for iswara/saga. But the design so so only. But the boss, brought me to his room and used the computer to custom to me. Wah.. the boss are so good. While chat around 59 minutes, my cousin custom make buddy club for his putra already done. it just took 59 minutes to custom make a bumper. Then I went to the place which there custom make. not only the boss friendly, the workers there are very friendly. even there were busy doing their stuff, their still can answer my question in polite way. I asked some design for my car. Haha.. Rm800 settle to custom make but without paint. It look very nice. Smart and fierce. Thinking to install that before chinese near year. The custom make, and their art work really nice. The custom made bumper was perfectly fit on my cousin putra without any gap. While the workers helped my cousin to install a new pair of headlamp without extra charge. So everything is done so me and my cousin go. Since at the Pandan Indah industry area is kinda quiet, my cousin make power slide.. Sekali slide kena pot hole, the bumper crack. The bumper only 2.5cm from the ground. Only 10 minutes installed the new bumper and now already crack. So went  turn back to the shop, the worker fixed the bumper  for free.. Haha.. Some more all the workers and boss were laughing. 

That is the experience that I faced today at best kit bodykit. Bravo to their work and service.
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post Dec 15 2007, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 14 2007, 11:31 PM)
hahaha
so sad that car kena strip kau kau
but yea...thats the frame already
no chassis in view anywhere tongue.gif
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post Dec 15 2007, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 15 2007, 01:12 AM)
wah
how u know?...
u steal wan ar?... tongue.gif
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muahahaha... nolah... last time someone posted before mah... his car stolen... den after dunno how long found back in this condition... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 15 2007, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 15 2007, 09:19 AM)
Why got people transplant engine, but no people transplant chasis 1? Hehe,
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post Dec 15 2007, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Dec 15 2007, 01:33 PM)
@ the_catacombs
you selling what spark plugs?
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side-gapped sparkplugs... like this one..

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i sold a few already and receives good comments from them...

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post Dec 15 2007, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Dec 15 2007, 06:54 PM)
side gapped?
means what?
you DIY it yourself?
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yeah, diy using machinery... interested??...

side-gapped plugs allows the spark to be more exposed... thus, allowing ur air/fuel to burn more efficientlly... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 15 2007, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Dec 15 2007, 07:51 PM)
aha, i just changed mine yesterday while servicing my car
by the way, anyone using Volks Racing lubricant?
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what u changed??... why never change mine??... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 16 2007, 01:02 AM

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this photo like langgar pokok adi... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 16 2007, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Dec 16 2007, 10:33 AM)
you tak advertise awal-awal
mana la i tau...
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post Dec 16 2007, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Dec 16 2007, 07:27 PM)
kecik macam semut, siapa nak tengok?
bikin la besar-besar macam wa punya...
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