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post Dec 6 2007, 11:34 AM, updated 19y ago

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Hi its my first post here, hope this is ok... smile.gif

I have been playing the acoustic for nearly 2 years now and thought of moving on to electric guitar... biggrin.gif

Have been doing some research and shopping and finally after many testings and price hunting i have set my eyes on either a Epi Les Paul standard or Epi Les Paul Black Beauty. (MIK)

Most probably will get it from The Guitar Store as they are the only ones with stock now. The price is ok. Got some discount and free gifts with it.

Still havent buy yet, will buy soon for xmas!! But just wana get some real good unbiased opinions from all the experienced guitarist in LYN forums before making the final decisions...

I like playing blues, jazz and rock... tongue.gif

So anyone out there have a black beauty too? smile.gif how is it serving you? smile.gif

And anyone can share their experience with The Guitar Store?

will most probably get a lower end VOX amp with it as well... tongue.gif

Cheers!!! rclxms.gif

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post Dec 6 2007, 01:25 PM

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If you're talking about the Black beauty with 3 humbuckers, if you don't use the middle humbucker, just go for an Epi LP Custom instead. Also, make SURE it's the MIK Les Paul, as the china factory ones are pretty shoddy.

A friend of mine bought an acoustic guitar from there...... service is pretty ok. But they did a fantastic job fixing my humbuckers on my Epi ZW...... very clean, professional and would highly recommend it.

FYI, price range of the Epi LP Custom should be around the RM2500 mark, so just be careful. If you can wait for next year, Epiphone released a whole new line of guitars (Check one of the new topics). They look absolutely gorgeous and has great pickups AND 24 frets...... that's enough to drool on right there!
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post Dec 6 2007, 01:40 PM

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Well if you don't need the extra middle pickup then go for the Custom like what Blacktrix said.

It may get in your way when you pick sweat.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 10:49 AM

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Hi , thanks for the reply...

That day before I buy I tested out some fender jap strats..and i fell in love with the tone and feel of the neck + the grip of the body..and its so much lighter..its like its made so perfect..the string and fretboard are smooth to play with!!

so at last i didnt buy the epiphone black beauty...my friend adviced me not to cause better get a Gibson when im really good next time... as an epiphone is still an epiphone..

I have not bought any guitar yet..now am testing all the fenders like crazy!! i like the jap reissue model especially the one with alder body and maple neck and maple fretboard..the sound is very one biji biji..nice!!
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post Dec 10 2007, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(js_big @ Dec 10 2007, 10:49 AM)
Hi , thanks for the reply...

That day before I buy I tested out some fender jap strats..and i fell in love with the tone and feel of the neck + the grip of the body..and its so much lighter..its like its made so perfect..the string and fretboard are smooth to play with!!

so at last i didnt buy the epiphone black beauty...my friend adviced me not to cause better get a Gibson when im really good next time... as an epiphone is still an epiphone..

I have not bought any guitar yet..now am testing all the fenders like crazy!! i like the jap reissue model especially the one with alder body and maple neck and maple fretboard..the sound is very one biji biji..nice!!
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i would only pick a few fender MIJ if i were u

St54 , ST57 ,st62 ..and of course..YJM sig. strat..people all around the world saying the MIJ YJM > the MIA YJM ..lol biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 11:17 AM

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MIJ Richie Sambora strat tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Dec 10 2007, 11:13 AM)
i would only pick a few fender MIJ if i were u

St54 , ST57 ,st62 ..and of course..YJM sig. strat..people all around the world saying the MIJ YJM > the MIA YJM ..lol  biggrin.gif
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Hi gapnap,
can you share why you said only pick a few MIJ fender like the ST54,ST57 and ST62? what about the ST68?

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post Dec 10 2007, 11:38 AM

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Whaddya mean an Epiphone is just an epiphone???!!!!
They still sound good ok..... it's not like some chaplang brand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU JUST ANGERED YOUR MODERATOR! PREPARE FOR THE BANHAMMER!!!!!!!

oh wait. I can't do that.
Damn.
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post Dec 10 2007, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 10 2007, 11:38 AM)
Whaddya mean an Epiphone is just an epiphone???!!!!
They still sound good ok..... it's not like some chaplang brand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU JUST ANGERED YOUR MODERATOR! PREPARE FOR THE BANHAMMER!!!!!!!

oh wait. I can't do that.
Damn.
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omg!! sorry bout that... tongue.gif dat was wat my friend said lar..no offense man...but I agree epiphone do sound good as well, except the LP100,dont really like it...i tested the Gibs and it was totally different but of course the bigger difference is the $$$...i would have gotten an epi but somehow i fell in love with a strat!! help me!!! its nearly 50% more than the black beauty...but they say buy the one that you really like the tone, feel, smoothness..you know the 'feeling' when you hold a guitar for the 1st time and you know that is the one for u... tongue.gif
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Yeah, Strats a good idea. Trust your instinct inside man, and good luck in your first purchase. Post a pix here too when you got it!
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post Dec 10 2007, 12:30 PM

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don't fret dude! I was just joking.
Any guitar is very personal and if you somehow like and feel of whatever guitar you're holding, then yes. That's the guitar for you.

I know because that's how I felt when I held the Les Paul.
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post Dec 10 2007, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(js_big @ Dec 10 2007, 11:37 AM)
Hi gapnap,
can you share why you said only pick a few MIJ fender like the ST54,ST57 and ST62? what about the ST68?
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well...

1.U.S.A pickups

2.the lower end uses Basswood body on Strats..bah...

anyway..dont forget MIM strats...

MIJ Fender strat are just "trying to be something new and different" ...

MIM Fender strats are trying to match up MIA quality..

anyway..i would pick a MIM deluxe strat , classic 60s , classic 50s , classic 70s ..(the higher end MIM) over any common MIJ Fender..

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post Dec 10 2007, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Dec 10 2007, 11:56 AM)
Yeah, Strats a good idea. Trust your instinct inside man, and good luck in your first purchase. Post a pix here too when you got it!
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thanks, i will post the pic biggrin.gif ...yeah throughout the whole month of searching,i have tried many guitars and amps, and was so confused and i have learned not to put too much dependency on online reviews or to be pressured by the salesman but to be totally depend on your instinct/style of playing/feeling with the guitar and the satisfaction and not to put any priority on cosmetics!!!!the sound and feel matters most..


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QUOTE(gapnap @ Dec 10 2007, 12:33 PM)
well...

1.U.S.A pickups

2.the lower end uses Basswood body on Strats..bah...

anyway..dont forget MIM strats...

MIJ Fender strat are just "trying to be something new and different" ...

MIM Fender strats are trying to match up MIA quality..

anyway..i would pick a MIM deluxe strat , classic 60s , classic 50s , classic 70s ..(the higher end MIM) over any common MIJ Fender..
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yeah...the MIJvintage series and j-craft uses basswood and cheaper pickups..but the craft premium,vintage premium,special,collection uses alder or ash, some uses dimarzio and some usa texas special pickups...can check at the japan website...

however i have not tried the MIMs yet...will check it out thax..

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QUOTE(js_big @ Dec 10 2007, 10:49 AM)
Hi , thanks for the reply...

That day before I buy I tested out some fender jap strats..and i fell in love with the tone and feel of the neck + the grip of the body..and its so much lighter..its like its made so perfect..the string and fretboard are smooth to play with!!

so at last i didnt buy the epiphone black beauty...my friend adviced me not to cause better get a Gibson when im really good next time... as an epiphone is still an epiphone..

I have not bought any guitar yet..now am testing all the fenders like crazy!! i like the jap reissue model especially the one with alder body and maple neck and maple fretboard..the sound is very one biji biji..nice!!
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fail. u shud get an epi.
*ok i'm biased.* tongue.gif


Added on December 10, 2007, 12:57 pm
QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 10 2007, 12:30 PM)
don't fret dude! I was just joking.
Any guitar is very personal and if you somehow like and feel of whatever guitar you're holding, then yes. That's the guitar for you.

I know because that's how I felt when I held the Les Paul.
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same here. the feeling when i held my lespaul is much much much stronger n i so fvking in love with the lespaul, compared to my rg. drool.gif

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post Dec 10 2007, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(enteryourusername @ Dec 10 2007, 12:56 PM)
fail. u shud get an epi.
*ok i'm biased.*  tongue.gif


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same here. the feeling when i held my lespaul is much much much stronger n i so fvking in love with the lespaul, compared to my rg.  drool.gif
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yeah dat is the exact feeling...its hard to explain in words but i am sure everyone who bought their first axe went through such feeling,awesome* thumbup.gif ...i agree lespaul is great too..i like the rock sound of it...but in the end it comes to personal preference and music alignment....have u tried a fender strat before?..

...if i got the $$$ i would get one of each Gibson,American Fender,PRS and Ibanez so i can try all the styles!!haha tongue.gif

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QUOTE(js_big @ Dec 10 2007, 01:14 PM)
yeah dat is the exact feeling...its hard to explain in words but i am sure everyone who bought their first axe went through such feeling,awesome* thumbup.gif ...i agree lespaul is great too..i like the rock sound of it...but in the end it comes to personal preference and music alignment....have u tried a fender strat before?..

...if i got the $$$ i would get one of each Gibson,American Fender,PRS and Ibanez so i can try all the styles!!haha  tongue.gif
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yesh, n still prefer my lespaul. rclxms.gif

oh btw, the lespaul isnt my 1st axe. whistling.gif
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reissue MIJ strats from rm3.5k - rm4.5 k depends on year and series...overprice? what do you think? or is the quality worth the price?
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epiphone is just an epiphone? well, swap pickups!

ok im biased.
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post Dec 11 2007, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(js_big @ Dec 10 2007, 10:49 AM)
Hi , thanks for the reply...

That day before I buy I tested out some fender jap strats..and i fell in love with the tone and feel of the neck + the grip of the body..and its so much lighter..its like its made so perfect..the string and fretboard are smooth to play with!!

so at last i didnt buy the epiphone black beauty...my friend adviced me not to cause better get a Gibson when im really good next time... as an epiphone is still an epiphone..

I have not bought any guitar yet..now am testing all the fenders like crazy!! i like the jap reissue model especially the one with alder body and maple neck and maple fretboard..the sound is very one biji biji..nice!!
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get ur self a Fender then enuff said smile.gif

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QUOTE(aceejay @ Dec 11 2007, 01:56 PM)
get ur self a Fender then enuff said smile.gif
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think im gona get it from spore or order from japan..its so much cheaper that way more around 40-50% cheaper!!...but kinda risky though...

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order?...quite risky...
although most are tested and checked like those in bentley...
u never know if it fits u unless u try it

prefer walk in ones...
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post Dec 12 2007, 10:51 PM

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why dun u grab ur self a telecaster ? japanese made tele's are sweet smile.gif
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QUOTE(aceejay @ Dec 12 2007, 10:51 PM)
why dun u grab ur self a telecaster ? japanese made tele's are sweet smile.gif
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hey man, saw ur blog...its a real nice guitar...i tested one at TGS, fender jap basswood body, maple neck and maple fretboard with texas special pickup and another one is a telecaster too with flowery design on the body...i like the tone, but not the feel...but somehow i feel that my musical alignment is more to a strat or lespaul..

i still havent buy my guitar yet..dont want to make the wrong decision..

nice guitar man!! keep it up!!

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Why do i get the feeling almost everyone here hates strats? tongue.gif
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me dont like strat hehehe
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i dun hate strats, i just love les paul. biggrin.gif
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if to do a poll on lespaul, strats and ibanez i think it would be like 50%,30%,20%.
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And then, as moderator I change it to 80%, 0% and 20%
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LES PAULS FTW!

Only reason why Ibanez is inside is because I might be buying an Ibanez S Prestige Next year tongue.gif
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 13 2007, 10:00 AM)
And then, as moderator I change it to 80%, 0% and 20%
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LES PAULS FTW!

Only reason why Ibanez is inside is because I might be buying an Ibanez S Prestige Next year tongue.gif
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haha then i will just get one of each lar tongue.gif make it equal...
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 13 2007, 10:00 AM)
And then, as moderator I change it to 80%, 0% and 20%
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LES PAULS FTW!

Only reason why Ibanez is inside is because I might be buying an Ibanez S Prestige Next year tongue.gif
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HOW DARE U............































give only 80% to lespauls? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(enteryourusername @ Dec 13 2007, 11:42 AM)
HOW DARE U............
give only 80% to lespauls?  tongue.gif
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I CHANGE ALL TO ->

STRAT : LESPAUL : IBANEZ
120 : -10 : -10

Hahaha..!! rclxm9.gif

but worldwide wonder how is it like ? hmmmmm
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QUOTE(js_big @ Dec 13 2007, 11:50 AM)
I CHANGE ALL TO ->

STRAT : LESPAUL : IBANEZ
120    : -10        : -10

Hahaha..!!  rclxm9.gif

but worldwide wonder how is it like ? hmmmmm
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the strat dropped alot of points when jimi and srv died...and when clapton became a wuss...
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I second that! Les Paul now has the re-emergence of Jimmy Page with the recent reunion tour......
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Clapton a wuss? muahahah

The Eric Johnson Strat seems pretty awesome ler. But to me, it's LesPaul and Telecasters FTW. tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 03:46 PM

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hmmmm biased opinions!!!! mad.gif

hahaha..best of both worlds you know... tongue.gif
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Well when Cream had their recent reunion he went for a Strat/Cornell setup because the SG/Marshall setup didn't work (He said at the end of the DVD that they brought in the old stuff during rehearsals).

+10 to strats and -10 for SG. biggrin.gif

Anyway... why has this thread turned into a guitar bashing thread? =.="

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Dec 14 2007, 04:11 PM)
Well when Cream had their recent reunion he went for a Strat/Cornell setup because the SG/Marshall setup didn't work (He said at the end of the DVD that they brought in the old stuff during rehearsals).

+10 to strats and -10 for SG. biggrin.gif

Anyway... why has this thread turned into a guitar bashing thread? =.="
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wow, by slamming the SG/marshall combo...you indirectly slammed Marshalls too.
wheres blacktrix? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Dec 14 2007, 04:25 PM)
wow, by slamming the SG/marshall combo...you indirectly slammed Marshalls too.
wheres blacktrix? tongue.gif
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Nvm, the Cornell amp is basically a tweed amp so +10 Tweed -10 Marshall Super Lead.

Now it's directly slamming. biggrin.gif

Seriously though, although I'm a Fender fan, I would love to own a Les Paul and a ES335. The former because you-know-why and the 335 because of Mr.335. biggrin.gif Also, it's probably because I prefer semi-hollow guitars to full-hollowed ones.

Damn off-topic. biggrin.gif
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i want a ES-335 cos of eric johnson tongue.gif

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Listen to his tone on the Total Electric Guitar DVD and you'ill regret selling your strat. tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 06:03 PM

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Led_zep_freak,which fender do u own?..i stil havent bought my fender yet..everyday wake up thinking bout guitar and think bout it before sleep haha..
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Strat. biggrin.gif

Speaking of Fender, I was browsing U-Box in office just now, and they had a mid-80s Pink Paisley Tele for less than RM1.5k. O_o Damn tempting.
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Oh great,which strat do u have?..talking bout d pink paisley,think i tried one tele pink paisley guitar with flowery design with one piece maple neck at tgs!very nice!MIJ wan..bt i like strats..haha..


Added on December 14, 2007, 7:05 pmBtw,wats u-box?karaoke?

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i guess he meant ishibashi u-box?

http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/
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Oi! TS! If you're done, then I'm gonna close this thread.
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yeah please do thax...

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