weekdays prot, weekend ms.

X-perl n Bongos2.

no im not, ive seen ur armory countless of times and your arena teams and i have full confidence to defeat you/them. ur gear is in majority 1 season behind me and the majority of my team. same goes for ur team. and even for your team, your win ratios are all around 60% only. yes, you have pve raids, guild managing yada yada, but the thing with arenas is that, you ONLY REALLY NEED TO PLAY JUST 10 GAMES. its not the quantity of arenas you play but more so the quality aka - winning games instead of losing them.

to summarize again:
- no im not assuming your running with a nub team with pve gear
- yes ur still gonna bend over
- and again, this thread is pointing out how skillless rolling bgs are, and you sir, are asking me to check out the people you roll with during weekend bgs? bad move there.

and sorry to hear about your friend btw.
and lastly, SPOILER YOUR PICS IF UR LAZY TO RESIZE IT GAWD.

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Added on December 7, 2007, 2:03 pmthats a rather stupid question unless your into that S&M bondage thingy

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 7 2007, 02:04 PM

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Added on December 7, 2007, 2:03 pm

thats a rather stupid question unless your into that S&M bondage thingy

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what do you think lol

1 season behind? 2piece s2, 2piece s3, s1 shoulders, full pvp vindicator set. In fact more than anything i swap 1 piece of generic item out just to attain the 5% hit which i dun see it being attainable by full pvp gear. And gauging my last s2 arena is a poor reflection as it was just in the dying moments for me to collect points as i hardly could arena at all so i had to arena with just normal ppl in my situation to collect whatever points we could in the last month.

Well i won't really participate any further in explaining other than get results which i intend to do for this season for myself as that's all that really matters to u. Futile tryin to explain my own situation just to polish up my ego.

Have fun in arena.

And i have no idea how to insert spoiler. haha.

I read you right the first time, because even after 40 posts I'm going to reiterate my very first post for you:

Your battlegroup server cluster is filled with terribads.

It's not just the PUGs in your screenshots, it's not just the organized BG groups that lose to PUGs, it's not just the dearth of organized BG action on your battlegroup.

My beef with you is that you've been a source of much amusement on the World of Warcraft LYN forums with your constant e-preening over your arena ratings and how dismissive you are when anyone even farts in the direction of your 'achievements'.

You said it yourself. It's the same crap, no matter the scaling of gear quality, team or raid size, PVP in World of Warcraft is the same crap.

However it also includes your precious arena system. Arena just takes a different skillset, a different sort of discipline from what proper WSG took pre-arena, that's all to it. In a game so painfully rock-paper-scissors your group matrix puts forth one step towards victory, and everything else, from individual skill, latency, gear, spec puts the other foot in. I've known lots of incredible WSG players on Tichondrius who have not replicated the same success in arena back when it was first introduced and gradually quit PVP or the game. Does that make them any worse players? It doesn't.

Drop that hypocritical stance of yours and see things for what they are: you've constantly referred to your gear, your spec and your team setup while cock-fencing in this thread: how has any of the three have to do with skill in a game that is essentially rock-paper scissors?

You're playing a bandwagon spec, have a strong team matrix built around your class in all 3 arena brackets, and have gear you have attained (and that anyone can attain, given time.) it doesn't reflect your skill so much as your dedication.

weapons are the clear definitive measurements for melees, which does set you behind considerably.

and unless ur gonna be replacing ur teammates soon with supposedly "non-normal-peoples", sorry to say that you wont go far. 360 resil enh shaman, (its not really the resil part, just more of him being enh.) 360 resil disc priest with only 11k buffed health and 1.3k healing as a disc priest (better off being holy until he can get around 1.4k heals or at least more resil to not need blessed resilience), mutilate rogue being 330 resil, with a wierd talent build, that in most top muti rogue's perspective including mine, it sucks horribly, and also no weapon chain on offhand (perhaps pve dagger, who knows), resto shaman thats 294 resil without grounding totem talent??!!?

the rest with under 100 resil i wont even bother mentioning them, but who knows if they are in pve.

so judging from this, and what you claim, you are actually better off 1v1'ing me, especially when warriors > rogues in general by default. so in the end it may not be just problem on your end, but perhaps problems in your teammates, and in arenas/team play, it goes both ways. and bringing them in is just making things worse lol.

but at least you got one thing right, i only care about results, and everything else is irrelevant to me. same goes for you too for arenas, as they are really really enjoying

p/s: the spoiler button. between B/I/U and YOUTUBE buttons.

I dont care about numbers... cos i don't play the game anymore... That phoenix... is a boner though.

you gotta give him credits for dedication and effort, he spent 3 month of non-stop pvp nearly 100 hours a week to get that high warlord ranking.
With so much effort put in, its only logical that he'll boast about it for the rest of his life.

He grinded his High Warlord rank using a logitech flight-sim joystick(NOT KEYBOARD) and a mouse, since his fingernails were 6 inces long on his left hand.

my point is, just let it go. Quaz is a pure HARDCORE(caps in IMPACT fonts). Trying to compete with him on a 'normal' level, we just won't win. Let him boast all he want.

This post has been edited by Sichiri: Dec 7 2007, 03:48 PM

I didn't doubt his dedication. I know exactly what it takes to get HWL. Although playing for 4 and 1/6th of a day every week for 3 months seems quite a big amount for his server.



He's hardcore in a way that anyone who can put up the same amount of time can achieve within a reasonable time limit. Nobody is trying to beat him on equal ground because no one wants to. His boasts are as hollow as his achievements because there isn't equal ground in World of Warcraft.

The only thing he can truly boast about are his arena ratings because thats the one thing that no one can take away from him or have exactly the same, unless they were on his battlegroup and playing the same brackets and actually playing games against him.

Even then, I'd be curious to see how he'd perform on Bloodlust.

This post has been edited by BoardWarrior: Dec 7 2007, 03:38 PM

A girl did my Warlord grind for me. <3

Stormscale is a PVP server. There is competition nonetheless.

I'm playing 2v2 with this dude in my guild keldorn. The 5v5 was from last season.

LOL, i bet he becomes infertile after sitting on that mount. The phoenix fire has cooked his balls.

first and foremost, if my battlegroup server cluster is filled with terribads, whats your proof? what do you based it from?
our 2v2/3v3/5v5 top teams are all on 2.5-2.7k and above. while its not BG9 standard with their 2.9k rated teams with a lot of sponsored professional teams playing, you have nothing to claim that cyclone, or any BG group for that matter being terribad.

and what does you having your personal beef against me have anything to do with me, or this thread for that matter? if your somehow butthurt, sore or even jealous of my epeening over the forums, my advice is that you keep it to yourself and not go apeshitting around people's threads. better for yourself as you dont make yourself look like a clown, but also others by not reading your personal hate posts.

also, letme refresh you a bit:





letme highlight the above, especially the one specially highlighted.
and in case you still didnt understand, no, i didnt included arenas.

what does this still mean? yes im still implying that arenas are different and yes BG/World pvp = non factor PVP.
and am i being a hypocrit? dont think so.

As for your comments about arenas being RPS plagued, while i will agree with you on 2v2/3v3 formats, 5v5 format is almost non-existant, especially when you can rotate in other classes should you feel being RPS countered.

Again, if ur butthurt from my gear, team, and my spec, as mentioned above, keep it to urself. And since you even critisize my skill, let me clear this up to you:

first off, i focuses mainly on 5v5, 2v2 and 3v3 is merely for fun and even my 3v3, i run RMP AND rotating with a feral druid time to time, which is arguebly a weak composition. 2v2 i do 2 dps with mage or feral druid but mainly with holy priest (now being disc)

for the main event - 5v5, i run a rather "standard" 2345 setup, but instead of a warrior, im a rogue. and if you've been very keen to the pvp world, rogues run 4dps setup as their main 5v5. so arguebly, a rogue being in a 2345 is a weak composition. so, does that mean that i am actually much more skilled running a supposedly weaker composition?

ill leave that up to you to decide while i mix and match my team compositions to my heart's content and win games.

but comeeeee to think of it. im done being good and continously to let you shit toss in my thread anonymously with 0 credibility. so now,

armory profile?
PTR copy of said profile?

wanna have a dance on PTR?

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Added on December 7, 2007, 6:17 pm^ this guy knows my stuff.

but some correction:
during the last 2ish months, i pvp'ed every day for 20+ hours. so if you count 20x7 thats around 140 hours per week.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 7 2007, 06:17 PM

lol kurei ball's are cooked!!!....!!! he's at za nao lol...trying to get the bear mount!!

because there is pvp competition, and hwl grind is basically competing amongst your own faction, a dog eat dog world. the bigger the competition, the more you got to put in.

i avg on 1.5mil-2mil honor gain per week, yet that only puts me around top3 and not even guaranteed number 1 spot. however things werent as bad as it were 2-3 generations before me as theres no "warlord group".
in a warlord group, you kill every competition outside of your group, and then fix standings for everyone within the group. so the ammount of time needed to put in can be reduced significantly.

also, if you didnt know, ratings system in the arenas works on zero-sum gain. the more players, the more gain. add that fact, along with the fact that theres a lot of news spreading that BG9 Asia/pacific team sucks would also be a good deciding factor that most likely ill be getting higher ratings.

better yet, overpopulated and pvp crowded BG means better queues and better queues means more games and that means more ratings. our 5v5 queues can go as high as well... on a bad day, 4-5 hours of queue and 0 games done ftw. you get the idea.

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Added on December 7, 2007, 7:05 pmyea and hes currently wearing pve thats why i didnt comment lol.

with his resil, any team you face with a priest would be utter disaster for ur paladin lol. or lol locks with their op COT and you cant remove it with ur setup. RPS at its best. hence 5v5 is where its at.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 7 2007, 07:05 PM

I know you didn't include arenas, which is why I pointed out that the arena system is included in what you call nonfactor PVP. For someone who seems to get off on telling people to read their posts, you don't seem to be doing a lot of reading yourself. I'd tell you to read my post again when I mention that arena and all other PVP in this game are only separated by a need for different skillsets and disciplines and that being good at arena doesn't make you a superior PVPer but hey! Gotta farm those arena points buddy!

Thanks for validating what I said about what it takes to win in arena with your statements about your 5s btw!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in a fair and square competitive environment, when you lose to a team the logical fix to it would be to do everything better, to play better, train harder? What do you just said you do in this game? If you run into a cockblock you have the luxury of switching specs and classes around for your 5s. Madskillz buddy!

You do what you need to do to win in this game. Thats something that everyone here understands. Just drop the pretense, and all your number crunching. Kurei definitely rubbed you the wrong way but heck, when all you can spout is his/his mates gear, their arena points, their win ratio, and how he is going to bend over, you're only making the arena system come off looking as bad as it really is.

Even at the highest levels of arena competition, the game is plagued by the RPS, and the best teams will have their members play classes they're not familiar with and/or stack classes in order to give them the advantage. What kind of fair and balanced competition platform will encourage or even reward that?

and ive pointed out in my first post, and along this thread mainly in replying to you, that arena system definitely isnt included. For someone who seems to get off on telling people to read their posts, you don't seem to be doing a lot of reading yourself. See where im getting now?

and no, arenas and all other pvp in this game arent just seperated by a need of different skillsets/disciplines. just the fact that many people if not almost everyone can ace other form of pvp EASILY while not every person get good ratings in arenas is a proven fact. if its just simple skillsets and disciplines then theoretically it shouldnt be world's apart. true, being good at arenas may or may not make you a superior pvper, but being good in bgs or ganking people clearly does NOT make you a good pvper. anyone can do it, simple as that.

and how did i validate what it takes to win in an arena? 5's comes with a 10 man roster, obviously is for you to ultilize it, and by ultilizing it you reduces if not COMPLETELY eliminates the RPS factor. as i said and will say again, 2's and 3's are plague by RPS and even with rotating people you still wouldnt eliminate RPS at all. 5's you can do it due to the larger roster and game play format. and the game is in general balanced around group pvp, not solo/small scale pvp. so unless ur having some serious misunderstanding or lacking reading skills (as proven before anyways) you arent getting anywhere with statements without facts to back yourself up. hell, i can GUARANTEE you, you WONT win by just swapping people if your gonan suck anyways, the advantage of class swapping in 5's is not as significant as say 2's or 3's due to, as i said earlier and will saying again - RPS factor in 5's is very minimal and thus class does not play a critical role. OBVIOUSLY you'd still have to run at least a healer or double healer setup.

And HOW am i making the arena system come off looking bad? imo im rather promoting it even more. probably cuz you cant do good at it thus your making such absurd statements. and hey, since your mentioning about highest level of arena competition (something you're prolly not familiar with and prolly wont ever will), have you EVER seen people stack classes in 5's and got over 2.5k ratings? AFAIK no. even if there is its just that very RARE team running some wierd setup prolly for shitz n gigglez or they just cant find another class to prevent class stacking. main reason for that is that in a larget scale group pvp setup, you'd want to ultilize a variety of ultilizations as you can get, examples would be: mage offering food/water, sheep cc, frost cc etc. rogue offering control through stuns and minor cc through sap/crippling/blind. warrior, thats basically a rogue, does not offer any of those but they offer more consistant dps. and the list goes on. and its up to you to build your own composition based on what you like best/more comfortable with.

again, armory profile? PTR copy? dance? still dodging?

Hey there buddy! Something struck me about your post there, and I'm just gonna ask you outright~!

ERR... HOW DO YOU DEFINE 'ACING' PVP OUTSIDE OF ARENAS?

I'm starting to think you've been barking up the wrong tree here buddy, all that arena must be giving you tunnel vision of sorts~! Grats on using blanket statements too buddy glad you're taking a leaf outta my book! Or maybe I've been taking one out of yours~!

I stated my own experiences with players who were the best of the best in the PVP scene that existed before your precious arena system. When all the honor has been farmed and HWL rank achieved, the only thing left to do back then to play for fun and epeenery was to get involved in the WSG league that was held on BG9's PTRs. It was out of respect for the skill pool on Tichondrius that players from Nurfed (Noktyn and Vhell transferred to be with Notorious) and Eminence (Panda (Trance) and crew transferred to be with Tao, and then Insurrection) came to Tichondrius in the first place and started the transfer to Tich craze. Out of the players that existed back then, the only ones who are still playing and thriving in arena would probably be the people from Pandemic and an assortment of random people here and there.

Gee whiz! By your logic, I guess Nurfed, Tao, Notorious (minus transfers), Eminence were bads huh~?

Tell me again why arena is better?

RE: swapping. Swapping group comps won't net you a win if you suck. That's right. But will playing better with the same group get you a win the second time around? What necessitates the group swap in the first place?

Also grats on more tunnel vision, when the highest level of competition e.g. WSVG and Dreamhack (oh dear, I'm sorry, the highest level of competition must be >2.5k arena rating in your favored bracket right?) you saw examples of what I mentioned, no doubt you followed the matches. Do I need to mention the name of the tournament specifically for you to understand what I'm getting at?

I do admit one mistake on my part though! It was totally my fault that I didn't know that your favored, seriousmode bracket that only matters is 5v5! Must've been my poor reading comprehension when you give equal focus to all three brackets in your blog located at this URL http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/492823 ! The fact that your highest rating bracket is your 3s totally misled me too! Nice mace buddy glad your 5s got you that mace!

Glad to see you reach 2k rating with 2345 with a rogue, last I heard of that setup it was for as a counter to 4DPS shadow damage teams! Or maybe, you're actually 3.5DPS? If you weren't the leader of your guild and didn't have only one level 70 warrior who is stuck in a 1270 rating 3s team, would you rather run a warrior instead of a rogue?

Thanks for being doggedly always wanting the last word in though. We couldn't have gotten this far without you!

P.S. Duels with character copies on the PTR prove a lot mirite? You're one season above me in terms of gear and weapons, the outcome is decided! You win buddy! You're better than I am!
P.P.S. LOL see what I did there?
P.P.P.S. You remind me of Serennia. Oh and for your benefit...

LAST. WORD.

This post has been edited by BoardWarrior: Dec 8 2007, 02:18 AM

Now this is what I call PVP Epeening right here!