The Metal Guitar For Xmas
The Metal Guitar For Xmas
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Dec 4 2007, 02:08 PM
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Whoa. Very badass looking guitars you guys have. Nice sofas too
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Dec 4 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Dec 4 2007, 02:07 PM) Hey, Cannot leh,the RR3 too high for my budget.I'm going for the SA160 because it's versatile and prettypick RR3 if u gonna metal. LOL I went to Bentley with RG1570 in mind, but ended up not buying that one bcos the sound is simply not as good as RR3 (pickups big difference). Whats your budget actually? RGR321EX is ok, i have tested one too but maybe need to change PUPs if u want better sound. However, dont forget amps...get a decent one if possible. hehe |
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Dec 4 2007, 04:57 PM
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FYI, the SA160 doesn't have 24 frets, just 22. But it's a damn versatile and light guitar......
If you're changing the pickups, might I suggest DiMarzios? the Evolution are a great pickup for the S series. BTW, I can't seem to find any information on the SA160 on Ibanez's official website...... mind filling us on the details? |
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Dec 4 2007, 05:38 PM
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The SA160 is discontinued adi.It features mahogany body,HSS,SAT30 bridge.
DiMarzios are active pups right?I dunno,but I guess EMGs are outta my list.They don't sound as chunka chunka in SS amps.Is that true? |
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Dec 4 2007, 05:45 PM
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btw, about mahogany.
ie. on that RG321 or SA160. just cos it has mahogany does not mean its going to sound full. remember the LP was also one big thick ass slab of mahogany, that helps to give it the tone too... whereas the ibanez is one thin ass piece of thing that loosely can be called wood |
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Dec 4 2007, 05:47 PM
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Yeah,I tried the LP but I personally didn't like the feel.Hard to admit because I really love the tone and looks of the LP.I'd take feel over tone.
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Dec 4 2007, 05:52 PM
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i dunno about SA's neck...but i've tried SZ...and the epi neck isnt that far off.
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Dec 4 2007, 06:30 PM
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Nope. The DiMarzio Evolution are Passive........ but quite alot of punch.
Oh, and who says EMGs arn't good with solid state??? |
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Dec 4 2007, 06:37 PM
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i'm an EMG person, but dimarzio x2n is pretty good for passive. has a ton of punch. or you can try an invader, also passive.
if you wanna give passive emg's a try, go for hz-h4. i'm using them now |
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Dec 4 2007, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Dec 4 2007, 05:38 PM) The SA160 is discontinued adi.It features mahogany body,HSS,SAT30 bridge. Methinks that you should go either for high-power DiMarzios (Evolution, X2N etc) or active EMGs (81, 85, 89). Stay away from the passive EMGs (no offence, SweetTooth! DiMarzios are active pups right?I dunno,but I guess EMGs are outta my list.They don't sound as chunka chunka in SS amps.Is that true? QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Dec 4 2007, 05:47 PM) Yeah,I tried the LP but I personally didn't like the feel.Hard to admit because I really love the tone and looks of the LP.I'd take feel over tone. Well, like Everdying said, the LP sounds like that because it's one big slab of mahogany, whereas the SA is a thin slab.But with good EQ and good gain I'm sure you can get bone-crushing tone from the SA. (Although maybe in a direct A/B comparison, the LP will most likely sound fuller.) Personally, I'd take feel over tone too. I think a guitar that's comfortable and nice to play with goes a long way compared to one with "better" tone. Remember, you're not going to get a Gibson LP with to-die-for tone at that price range! (Ok ok, I admit, I detest the LP! Probably as much as Everdying detests the RG! |
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Dec 4 2007, 07:42 PM
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Dec 4 2007, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 4 2007, 06:30 PM) Nope. The DiMarzio Evolution are Passive........ but quite alot of punch. 7: Thou shalt not ask ?I like X?s tone, what pickups does he use??.Oh, and who says EMGs arn't good with solid state??? If you like said player?s tone, getting his amp will get you 95% of the way there. THEN get the pickups, and it should make up the last 5% (if your guitar is made of the same wood). Also, related to this commandment: PLEASE STOP LOOKING AT EMG?S IF YOU HAVE A PRACTICE AMP, THEY?LL ONLY SOUND HOW YOU EXPECT IF YOU HAVE A MESA RECTO, OR SIMILAR ALL-TUBE, DARK-VOICED, HIGH GAIN AMP. If you have such an amp, be my guest, EMG?s can sound huge/awesome/generally pretty darn metal, BUT WITH THE RIGHT AMP. See Commandment #1 and #2. Copied from ultimate-guitar.True?I think it does provide a little punch though. Added on December 4, 2007, 8:20 pmBtw,how much does the DiMarzio Evolution cost? This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Dec 4 2007, 08:20 PM |
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Dec 4 2007, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Dec 4 2007, 08:19 PM) 7: Thou shalt not ask ?I like X?s tone, what pickups does he use??. I dont know to what extent that statement is true but I do believe amps influence sound more than PUP.If you like said player?s tone, getting his amp will get you 95% of the way there. THEN get the pickups, and it should make up the last 5% (if your guitar is made of the same wood). Also, related to this commandment: PLEASE STOP LOOKING AT EMG?S IF YOU HAVE A PRACTICE AMP, THEY?LL ONLY SOUND HOW YOU EXPECT IF YOU HAVE A MESA RECTO, OR SIMILAR ALL-TUBE, DARK-VOICED, HIGH GAIN AMP. If you have such an amp, be my guest, EMG?s can sound huge/awesome/generally pretty darn metal, BUT WITH THE RIGHT AMP. See Commandment #1 and #2. Copied from ultimate-guitar.True?I think it does provide a little punch though. Added on December 4, 2007, 8:20 pmBtw,how much does the DiMarzio Evolution cost? |
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Dec 4 2007, 08:54 PM
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True, amps ARE a big part of the sound.
But if you add in EMGs compared to stock, crappy pickups, I'm sure you can tell the difference. |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Dec 4 2007, 07:03 PM) Methinks that you should go either for high-power DiMarzios (Evolution, X2N etc) or active EMGs (81, 85, 89). Stay away from the passive EMGs (no offence, SweetTooth! i was stating a passive pickup from each of those 3 famous brands but most people say the hzh4 sucks anyways...but then again most people compare it with actives |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:45 PM
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isnt the dimarzio x2n a passive alternative for those who want EMG active sound?
and the H4 sux anyway, and thats comparing it to passive duncans |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Dec 4 2007, 08:37 PM) I dont know to what extent that statement is true but I do believe amps influence sound more than PUP. yameh..well i can spot an evo , JB , tone zone easily... but most of the time i can't figure out what amp/settings somebody is using... most of the time i guess its a Peavey ...turn out to be a line6 POD pro |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:49 PM
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heck...even if joe satriani or steve vai played an acoustic...
you would know its them playing...cos like they say...its all in the fingers |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(gapnap @ Dec 4 2007, 10:46 PM) yameh.. Really? LOL I dont know well i can spot an evo , JB , tone zone easily... but most of the time i can't figure out what amp/settings somebody is using... most of the time i guess its a Peavey ...turn out to be a line6 POD pro Anyways...comparing JB and evo, which one has higher output? |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:57 PM
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i'm using a SA120, also mahogany body but with H-H setting.
try fooling around with your EQ, effects, and you can get a nice tone out of it... to me, i'll pick the RG1570...H-S-H + AANJ + prestige FTW!! |
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