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 RM160 for Leopard, Worth it ?

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TShonght
post Dec 1 2007, 12:52 AM, updated 19y ago

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My friends bought a family pack for Leopard OSX and they decided to share together..
They asked me whether wanna join it or not..
It only cost me RM160
Is it worth it to get my iMac installed Leopard for RM160 ?
Will it get it cheaper next time , sifus ? smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2007, 12:58 AM

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i think it worth. go for it. smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2007, 02:10 AM


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Worth it, just remember to rip yourself 1 copy or see how who will the one holding on to it smile.gif

Price will drop but not so soon.. it depends on how long are you willing to wait that to happen?
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post Dec 1 2007, 02:52 AM

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Wah, so reasonable? My friend share his family pack, he sell half price (50%) off the normal one on the shelves (RM509).
TShonght
post Dec 1 2007, 04:11 AM

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Actually its my relatives.. =)
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post Dec 1 2007, 08:34 AM

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Is Leopard worth it - Yes and No

Yes - if you want new features which are amazing. There are tons of them


No - Its not really a major upgrade. If Tiger can do your job for you there is no need of an upgrade
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post Dec 1 2007, 12:07 PM

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sure it worth... but be sure u guys live near lor...
if not, when something happens n u need the dvd badly, it would be troublesome to get the DVD from someone who is living far from u... = )
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post Dec 1 2007, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(jensen_tidus @ Dec 1 2007, 12:07 PM)
sure it worth... but be sure u guys live near lor...
if not, when something happens n u need the dvd badly, it would be troublesome to get the DVD from someone who is living far from u... = )
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Not very far away..
Can I copy that cd ?
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post Dec 1 2007, 04:32 PM

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hmm... i doubt it... it's a double layer dvd if i'm not mistaken...
maybe u can try n let us know ^^
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post Dec 1 2007, 06:11 PM

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The Family Pack Software License Agreement allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-labeled computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that household. By "household" we mean a person or persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home, or condominium, including student members who are primary residents of that household but reside at a separate on-campus location. This license does not extend to business or commercial users.


Source: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebO...021Z/A#overview


I applaud you good nature, but unless you fit in the term 'household' above, what you're doing is essentially 'illegal' to Apple. If that's the case, why bother paying for it? smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2007, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(verced @ Dec 1 2007, 06:11 PM)
Source: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebO...021Z/A#overview
I applaud you good nature, but unless you fit in the term 'household' above, what you're doing is essentially 'illegal' to Apple. If that's the case, why bother paying for it? smile.gif
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I don't quite understand what you mean
We didn't live in the same house , but we are relatives , does that mean family to you ?
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post Dec 1 2007, 06:51 PM

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Can you copy the CD = yes , you can make a fine Carbon copy of it. Dont worry , its just taht it would not boot on hackintoshes.

Is it legal to do so = No

There you go. Honestly , I think its better to fork out for Leopard

EDIT :

It does not matter what relationship....as long you guys live in the same place. Thats all

This post has been edited by prasys: Dec 1 2007, 06:52 PM
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post Dec 1 2007, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 1 2007, 06:51 PM)
Can you copy the CD = yes , you can make a fine Carbon copy of it. Dont worry , its just taht it would not boot on hackintoshes.

Is it legal to do so = No

There you go. Honestly , I think its better to fork out for Leopard

EDIT :

It does not matter what relationship....as long you guys live in the same place. Thats all
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The legality is debatable. I think I read somewhere about Limited Fair Use that allows someone to copy a copyrighted data for backup purposes only.
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post Dec 1 2007, 07:45 PM

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You guys are making me so blur.
Honestly , we are not living under the same roof.
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post Dec 1 2007, 07:49 PM

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in that case, you are breaking the "Terms of Use".

on the other hand, Apple is not enforcing the license... so go ahead.
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post Dec 1 2007, 07:58 PM

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So the conclusion is
It is legal to install the Leopard right ?
Just for making sure blush.gif

This post has been edited by honght: Dec 1 2007, 07:59 PM
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post Dec 1 2007, 08:02 PM

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Sure, Apple's term and conditions are not laws. Do whatever you want with it.
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post Dec 1 2007, 08:08 PM

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Alright~
Thanks a lot all sifus ~
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post Dec 1 2007, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(honght @ Dec 1 2007, 07:58 PM)
So the conclusion is
It is legal to install the Leopard right  ?
Just for making sure  blush.gif
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It's not legal, it's only legal for within the household. Then again, legality is not really a concern with most Malaysians.

QUOTE(Voxe @ Dec 1 2007, 08:02 PM)
Sure, Apple's term and conditions are not laws. Do whatever you want with it.
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And you are not in any position to make that statement, your words against what's printed in black & white by an international company, guess who should anyone listen to?

Anyway the moment someone pays for a product, they are entering into a contract, which is binding, and naturally whatever terms and conditions that comes with the product is part of the contract.
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post Dec 1 2007, 10:20 PM

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Like civic98 says, if you're not going to follow the T&C set by Apple, why pay for it? It's not like you're conforming to it anyways.
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post Dec 2 2007, 12:15 AM

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My conscience is being tortured by your statements. cry.gif
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post Dec 2 2007, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(verced @ Dec 1 2007, 10:20 PM)
Like civic98 says, if you're not going to follow the T&C set by Apple, why pay for it? It's not like you're conforming to it anyways.
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There is difference between breaking the laws and bending the laws. Same goes as you dare to escape not paying your samans but you dare not rob a bank.
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:53 AM

 
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I agreed with Voxe.

You know what, just go live with your friend for a night. You are now in the SAME household to share the family pack. Go install Leopard on that night.

Problem solved?
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post Dec 2 2007, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Voxe @ Dec 2 2007, 12:36 AM)
There is difference between breaking the laws and bending the laws. Same goes as you dare to escape not paying your samans but you dare not rob a bank.
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Either breaking or bending the law is NOT legal. Who dares to do what is not determined by others, but only by him/herself. If you dare to do it, then do it, but don't mislead someone else into believing they are not wrong.

And like verced said, if you are already breaking or even "bending" it, why even bother to pay RM160?

QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Dec 2 2007, 06:53 AM)
I agreed with Voxe.

You know what, just go live with your friend for a night. You are now in the SAME household to share the family pack. Go install Leopard on that night.

Problem solved?
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Not really, since it says "install and use" and the term household refers to the computers, not the owners.

This post has been edited by civic98: Dec 2 2007, 07:56 AM
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post Dec 2 2007, 11:36 AM

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post Dec 2 2007, 12:36 PM

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You guys are waay out of OT.. Don't you think so? whistling.gif

Who cares about those legal issue? Apple goin' catch you? Or is it you doing a "big" business? Big deal for me... Hell yea.. tongue.gif Just share that family pack and end of story.
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post Dec 2 2007, 12:52 PM

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just get it..
why bother the apple T&C. if it worth u, u won t regret it

i don t think u scare apple ppl will catch u/report about u... they got a lot of another thing to do laaa...

OT: i like u la.. u so good boy..scare to broke T&C... tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2007, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(ioriamd @ Dec 2 2007, 12:52 PM)
just get it..
why bother the apple T&C. if it worth u, u won t regret it

i don t think u scare apple ppl will catch u/report about u... they got a lot of another thing to do laaa...

OT: i like u la.. u so good boy..scare to  broke T&C... tongue.gif
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I never broken a law before whistling.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 12:25 PM

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Aiyo...if home use close eye loh..who know..just dun announce so loud loh.
if business use better get ori.

u can copy the dvd, but it a DL DVD and it can be bootable after copy, i did backup my own just in case the ori one scratch.
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QUOTE(cktan27 @ Dec 4 2007, 12:25 PM)
Aiyo...if home use close eye loh..who know..just dun announce so loud loh.
if business use better get ori.

u can copy the dvd, but it a DL DVD and it can be bootable after copy, i did backup my own just in case the ori one scratch.
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Just buy it if you really can afford and support Apple

If not just download it from bittorrent
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(honght @ Dec 1 2007, 07:45 PM)
You guys are making me so blur.
Honestly , we are not living under the same roof.
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simple... since u not stay in same house, is illegal to share the osx.. so why u pay something is illegal? if you desperate to use leopard, just borrow it form someone or download and burn it, than leopard is all urs!
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QUOTE(yawhong @ Dec 4 2007, 09:44 PM)
simple... since u not stay in same house, is illegal to share the osx.. so why u pay something is illegal? if you desperate to use leopard, just borrow it form someone or download and burn it, than leopard is all urs!
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Better to pay something rather than not paying at all.
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illegal leopard + PAY = STOOPID
illegal Leopard + free = whistling.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 11:54 PM

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Decided to buy it.
No more argue. biggrin.gif
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