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alan8181
post May 15 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Sep 21 2008, 01:28 PM)
Supex charge you for 'advises'

Just walk in any bank, pray u get a good marketing officer, you get those advise for free.

I would say that if you got your loan like >4 years ago, you can feel free to go for refinancing now, it'll save you money even though u have to pay for the penalty incurred

Interest charged nowadays are going at BLR - 1.7 to 2.x % where interests charged few years back are going at BLR + xx %

You don't need anyone to tell you that you will be saving money by refinancing.
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Hi,

To be honest, without being harsh to you, no hard feeling,

Do you think that re-financing ALWAYS can help us to reduce the interest?

You gotta bear again the penalty, legal fee and etc which is hidden from you into your loan amount whether direct or indirectly..

If you have advance loan software to read about the amortizing schedule on the repayment, portion of interest and principal paid, you would be surprise to see your NEW monthly repayment amount (after refinancing done) which though may appear lower than the old loan (to impress you with the reduction) but the portion of the interest actually may sometimes higher than the old one.

Don't get caught in the creation of the cycle of debts again by the promises made by ads. Unless you re-finance to get extra cash for investment which may help you earning more than the interest imposed by the financial insitution.


"IN THE WORLD OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE RIGHT THING BECOME A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(smcg @ Jun 12 2008, 11:43 AM)
mortgage reduction is suitable for any term loan. flexi loan is also 1 of the term loan. bank do provide mortgage reduction, everybody can do it, but the problem is how much do u understand ur loan agreement???

kundam:
if ur monthly repayment is 1k, n u pay 2k, normally will save more than 50%!!! let say u r paying for 30yrs normally. if u pay 2k, u will pay off in less than 15 yrs!!!!!!  i agree with what u say, don't simply do any Refinancing unless u get a very good interest rate!!!  for flexi loan, my idea is, u borrow 100k, 10 yrs, n u dump in 100k, let it automatic deduct ur repayment monthly, n spent 10yrs to see. coz as i heard from bank regarding the flexi loan, they say the interest will offset if u borrow the $$, n dump in the same amount tat u borrow.. so i think this way can help u find out the truth!!
in my opinion, if a business can help u earn 50k, n u need to take out 5k, izzit worth to do?? there's no free lunch in this world. even u do it urself, u oso hv 2 spent time on it. time is $$.
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I would say any true mortgage reduction strategy may help you even to save on tremendous interest, if aapplied correctly, only OD (Overdraft) you don't have to apply mortgage reduction strategy. The rest you still may to save interest.

I can't answer your question directly as a matter of fact, telling the truth things sometimes may make myself liable for legal action.

Just a token of advice, whether you believe or not, I won't be making a money anyway, stay clear away from promises made from 'others' on loan package of .....

Just a question to guide you to 'hidden' fact:-

If you are operating financial institution, would you create/promote a financial product which can make yourself earning a lesser income?

OF COURSE A HELL NOT! IT"S A BUSINESSMEN BROTHER>


"IN THE WORLD OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE RIGHT THING BECOME A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:16 pm
QUOTE(kundam1 @ May 26 2008, 11:08 AM)
SUPEX MORTGAGE IS NOT A SOLUTION FOR FLEXI LOAN FOR SURE!!!

I would like to remind everyone here. For those who is using Term Loan, SUPEX might help.

I'm using SC Mortgage1 loan. So far the only bad point about flexi loan is Higher INTEREST!!! BLR + XX.

For my case, there is no concern since in interest is more than 4%, my company will subsidise the rest of all. If BLR=8%, my company will pay 50% of interest charged for me.

However, 1 simple question which SUPEX MORTGAGE consultant all can't answer here is:

1. If my monthly installment is RM1k and I pay RM2k every month to my account (assume BLR is fix), how long I can finish my payment? If you use a normal loan calculator, a double payment of your required payment will indeed reduce your years to half!

2. If SC Consolidated Statement is a +ve value, will there by any interest charged?

3. Flexi Loan is just  like a Overdraft account, if you take out extra payment, OF COURSE YOU WILL BE CHARGED INTEREST! Where got FREE OVERDRAFT in this world? So if put in Extra $, that's it...... If you take out, REMEMBER, INTEREST RATE IS BLR ( Still cheaper than Credit card for those CARD SLAVE).

4. Flexi Loan calculate based on your -VE value. Which means how much you owe the bank at the current Month(or DAY), of course how much interest you are charged. Simple mathematic, I'm not sure why people doesn't make sense about it.

5. If your account is a +ve Value, you can terminate the account anytime (More than 5 years no penalty). So once you terminate the account, of course your loan finish. Because you already END THE FACILITY.

6. Normally SUPEX member pandai. They ask you to request an "EARLY SETTLEMENT STATEMENT". Early settlement will always follow the calculation of TERM LOAN. Hence your EXTRA PREPAYMENT will not be calculated. HOWEVER, they will return you the $. Beware, EARLY SETTLEMENT and +VE account in your Condolidated STATEMENT is different. EARLY SETTLEMENT is something you wanna do with Refinancing or EPF. Positive Consolidated Statement means if you have a CASH youself and debit into the account, and at the end BANK OWE you $ not you owe Bank $ anymore.

7. My advise here is, don't simply do any Refinancing unless you get a very good interest (FIX INTEREST, maybe 4%) for the whole loan TERM.
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Brother, Flexi loan is NEVER an OD or similar.

I would say any true mortgage reduction strategy may help you even to save on tremendous interest, if aapplied correctly, only OD (Overdraft) you don't have to apply mortgage reduction strategy. The rest you still may need to apply to save interest.

I can't answer your question directly as a matter of fact, telling the truth things sometimes may make myself liable for legal action.

Just a token of advice, whether you believe or not, I won't be making a money anyway, stay clear away from promises made from 'others' on loan package which "HELP YOU SAVE INTEREST".....

Just a question to guide you to 'hidden' fact:-

If you are operating financial institution, would you create/promote a financial product which can make yourself earning a lesser income?

OF COURSE A HELL NOT! IT"S A BUSINESSMEN>


"IN THE WORLD OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE RIGHT THING BECOME A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Alan

This post has been edited by alan8181: May 15 2009, 12:16 PM
alan8181
post May 15 2009, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(vinext @ Feb 27 2008, 02:43 AM)
i m so shocked abt what i read here, eg: how does SC got to do w this.
Totally shocked, obviously based on my experience w the govt, supex is doin somethin not known to even lawyer or bankers (but i m aware of their effective n genuine service)
former bank negara Senior Exec
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It's all about money, it's hardest concept to accept.

Some laws are just not so 'convenient', 'expedient' or 'costly' to be applied - it's money

Politics + Economy is a virtually inseparable 'entity' esp in country where law is not as advanced.

If you are operating financial institution, would you create/promote a financial product which can make yourself earning a lesser income (interest)?

OF COURSE A HELL NOT! IT'S A BUSINESSMEN.... BROTHER remember, i would like to operate bank whenever possible>

As a matter of fact, the US and UK have introduced Mortgage Audit Act or similar law to protect consumer and to regulate on the loan matter, which we don't have.

Many of the 3rd World countries including Malaysia, we don't have such law to protect / educate us to be a smart consumer, thus we are always subject to Contract Act, and as far as the latter Act (law) is concerned,

"YOU ARE BOUND BY WHAT YOU SIGNED"

Do you think you can request to amend terms and condition as entailed in the letter offer or loan agreement of the financial institution?

If can, let me know immediately, I would gladly furnish you a list of amendments to give to the legal effect to save on interest so myself without having to go thru 3rd party company to apply mortgage reduction strategy.



"IN THE WORLD OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE RIGHT THING BECOME A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:25 pm
QUOTE(Pai @ May 15 2009, 12:17 PM)
And with SUPEX, you need to pay extra to SUPEX, THEN still have to pay the penalty, legal fees and etc  rolleyes.gif
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If applying mortgage reduction strategy correctly, re-financing sometimes is not needed so you are not paying all that fees brother.



"IN THE WORLD OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE RIGHT THING BECOME A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 1 2007, 01:07 AM)
SUPEX had a "not-so-good-reputation" in the online community for property investor such as http://realestate.net.my/forum/ and http://www.myrealestate.com.my/
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There is always PROs and CONs

Use our wisdom and judgment to all these comments and posts.

The best way is to find out your own.


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This post has been edited by alan8181: May 15 2009, 12:27 PM
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post May 15 2009, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Sep 21 2008, 01:28 PM)
Supex charge you for 'advises'

Just walk in any bank, pray u get a good marketing officer, you get those advise for free.

I would say that if you got your loan like >4 years ago, you can feel free to go for refinancing now, it'll save you money even though u have to pay for the penalty incurred

Interest charged nowadays are going at BLR - 1.7 to 2.x % where interests charged few years back are going at BLR + xx %

You don't need anyone to tell you that you will be saving money by refinancing.
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If i am operating a business of banking, i would offer FREE ADVICE only when it helps to sell my products.

Logically, there is a cost for everything, whether you believe or not =)



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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(numbertwo @ May 15 2009, 12:31 PM)
SB consultant?

Show me how a new loan (ie BLR - 2%) interests can be higher than the old loan (ie. BLR + 1%) in a term loan with a same balance outstanding, let say 30 years tenure.. rolleyes.gif

Nowadays the amortization worksheet is everywhere, even my kids have a copy to play with.. biggrin.gif
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I need to have full info before I can advise on anything.

Your old letter offer and monthly repayment now and etc.

Beware, amortization could be wrong sometimes=)


Alan

This post has been edited by alan8181: May 15 2009, 12:34 PM
alan8181
post May 15 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(on2920 @ Dec 1 2007, 01:24 AM)
Yes I agree, the Supex guy is not straight to the point, he just want to hook you up so u will pay for his services.. Of coz, he will sweet talk and gave a very good picture during the seminar, but to get any actual work done, you hv to pay up..

Read here, http://www.realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7555

and here, http://www.realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3240
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I am not selling SUPEX product but i went thru their SUPEX training just to obtain more info and find out the truth.

Real case study really put me into great shocked during in that training.

I won't reveal to 3rd party too coz it's risky and it against BAFIA Act too. but i know sth where your can't see it without going to SUPEX training. Anyway, you won't be as knowledgable as i am to pay RM7-8k just to learn sth, will you?

Real war between all financial institutions and SUPEX are intense. I just believe in truth always prevail.

I can't believe what I see.

I am a just a mortgage consultant with legal background to advise people get the best loan from almost any banks and help ppl to save money in variety ways. I just hate ppl without ethical. I am person with mission to help ppl to save money wherever possible.


"IN THE WORLD OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE RIGHT THING BECOME A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:41 pm
QUOTE(numbertwo @ May 15 2009, 12:31 PM)
SB consultant?

Show me how a new loan (ie BLR - 2%) interests can be higher than the old loan (ie. BLR + 1%) in a term loan with a same balance outstanding, let say 30 years tenure.. ?

The only "chance" is perhaps not paying the same repayment amount, plus becoz the new loan has a peak(highest interests charge) during the initial period of x years..   But in overall, you will save hell of an interests go for refinancing (of course if it is viable looking at your old loan %!)
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Yeah. u may be right.

It depends. If the interest is too far off comparatively between new loan and existing loan. Of course, re-financing is one of the good option to apply to save cost. But there are still many other ways to do it which is even more effective.


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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:44 pm
QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 1 2007, 07:27 PM)
What does it mean by reducing housing financial?
What is in your mind?
Easy steps....reduced your loan burden by earning more money.
Or in the start, loan less, or shorter tenor......
Once you're committed to the loan, tell me logically or sensibly how to reduce the burden besides earning more to pay the burden off?

What these guys do is to help you evaluate which package suits you the most. And they charge you for that. So why not do own research instead of paying them to do it? Give me the money and I'll help you choose a loan package, but obviously I wouldn't be responsible if one day you felt that it's worthless. That's what they do.
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Even if i am mortgage consultant to help ppl get the best package for loan. I don't charge them.

They are talking about the SUPEX where they may help ppl to save on MORTGAGE INTEREST which is not that easily be done by ordinary ppl or bank officers.

If so simple can do it with the bank, i think the SUPEX is stupid to have introduced this business and i wonder why and how he may survive for more than 10years of operation in Malaysia.


"IN THE WORLD OF THE UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH MAY BECOME REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:47 pm
QUOTE(kuya @ Dec 1 2007, 07:52 PM)
property also got this kind of con scheme.... tot only timeshare in tourism industry only....... rule of thumb.. our money, lets manage ourselves.
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If you think they are really a con men, please to lodge a report or official complaint to Bank Negara.

And wondering why they can survive for more than 10 years of operation and being awarded the top CEO award by the Business Global Magazine and being interviewd by the NANYANG SAN PAU for mortgage reduction and so many magazines have info about them.


"IN THE WORLD OF THE UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH MAY BECOME REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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This post has been edited by alan8181: May 15 2009, 12:47 PM
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post May 15 2009, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ May 15 2009, 12:48 PM)
Alan,
I think you have half a point right which I agree, that is , ways of reduction of interests paid is not documented anyway, so general public will never understand how it can be done.  Simple ie.  Prepayment, many thought that by paying prepayment it would save them intersts... but not many knows that bank actually park your prepayment, or so called advanced payment somewhere else without doing any saving for your loan account..  There are just many tricks in this loan thingy whereby normal folks will not know...  But these tricks are not worth  a few K to pay to supex for sure IMO!
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Thanks bro.

There is not free lunch.

If that's so simple, again, SUPEX is stupid to have introduced this business and i wonder why and how he may survive for more than 10years of operation in Malaysia.

There are things appear right but it's not right, there are things appear wrong but it may appear right.

It's hardest concept to tell, unless you yrself been thru the training to see what they say.

Prepayment by the bank is just on total principal reduction (save little interest only but not as much) as apposed to The real "prepayment" within the meaning of true Mortgage Reduction? You got me? I think got a famous book on this mortgage matter by foreign author. I forgot the authur, i will let u know.

Sometimes i think i am very smart too but caught up too with advance tricks setup by the financial institutions. Hey think again, so many great think-tank at the back in support of them.

Without in-depth study research, we won't find out, i respect the CEO of SUPEX coz i personally know him of his integrity and his relentless to show his efforts in revealing the daring truth.


"IN THE WORLD OF THE UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH MAY BECOME REVOLUTIONARY ACT"
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