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The Warlords, Jet Li, Andy Lau, Takeshi Kaneshiro
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chibi_tenko
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 Dec 18 2007, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Dec 17 2007, 10:47 PM) are the subs good enough for a person who doesnt understand mandarin at all? IMO, the subs are very good. Only thing is that the sub for the prologue (with all the chinese text) is a bit fast for some of the people but for the rest of the movie, the subs are surprisingly in good quality. I'm a banana so I depend on it. There's chinese, english and malay subs.  for the Warlords. BTW, I hate the phrase "Da ge shi dui de". Spoilers Alert. Click at own risk : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « One of the most cham scenes is when Jet Li ordered them to kill the POW. Andy devasted coz his promise to the Shuzhou general who sacrifice his life for his men was broken, Takeshi torn between "Da ge shi dui de!" and his own personal feelings. That scene is FTW - all three actors did a very good job with it.
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adriankhoo153
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Dec 18 2007, 08:08 AM
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If you were Jet Li, what would you think as a general will do? To divide the bread to 4000 more soldier of enemy that cant even last for 6 month as they are going for war at Nanking? Or you will think like Jet Li? He got to do it also. No choice. The massacre of 4000 enemie in Suzhou. Sad but true..
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chibi_tenko
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Dec 18 2007, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Dec 18 2007, 08:08 AM) If you were Jet Li, what would you think as a general will do? To divide the bread to 4000 more soldier of enemy that cant even last for 6 month as they are going for war at Nanking? Or you will think like Jet Li? He got to do it also. No choice. The massacre of 4000 enemie in Suzhou. Sad but true.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yeah lor, that's why I say there is not bad or good characters in the movie. Each of them forced to do what they did - but in the end, it depends whether one is strong enough to be ruthless to save his own people. Pang is a general, he thinks and acts like a general. Zhao is a simple minded mountain bandit who believes in brotherhood and oaths. Jiang is the poor fella torn between the two. If I am thrust into that situation, I'd most probably be in Zhao's shoes. Of course our own men is more important but to massacre them like that, very cham - It's the wicked fact and Pang have to do it but still... Even more cham is that the Suzhou general sacrificed himself for his men, only to have them killed like that. Like i've said, I REALLY like the acting from all 3 actors for that scene. Started crying when saw the Suzhou captain told his men to be quiet and hold their hands, and the archers crying when firing at them.  |
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funnyTONE
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Dec 18 2007, 10:35 AM
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They played some good emotion side of the ruthless soldiers. The cinematography was excellent! Yes, it does looks abit like LOTR, especially the battle field. As for the fighting scene, not much was memorable to me since they used swords and pole axes most of the times.
To be honest, I hate the lead female character. I don't blame her for what she did, but its obvious that because of her, the brotherhood fell. darn! Thank god Takeshi ***** her. hehehee.....
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chibi_tenko
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Dec 18 2007, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Dec 18 2007, 10:35 AM) They played some good emotion side of the ruthless soldiers. The cinematography was excellent! Yes, it does looks abit like LOTR, especially the battle field. As for the fighting scene, not much was memorable to me since they used swords and pole axes most of the times. To be honest, I hate the lead female character. I don't blame her for what she did, but its obvious that because of her, the brotherhood fell. darn! Thank god Takeshi ***** her. hehehee.....  Just because they hack and stab doesn't mean it's like LOTR lor. As for the swords and pole axes,  it's ancient China wor. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The brotherhood fell because of power struggle, not so much because of the woman. When Jiang saw Pang and Lian on the boat, he never confronted them nor told Zhao about it.
The brotherhood fell because the government officials where goading Pang into eliminating the threat, which is Zhao because most of their followers are loyal to the latter, not the former. Pang wanted Zhao's woman but he never thought of killing him because of her. It's the lure of power that started the chain of events.
Like Lian said before Jiang killed her, "Do you think killing me will make any difference?" Even she knows that the reason Pang wanted to kill Zhao is not because of her, but for power.
The massacre was inevitable, but the act of killing his 'brother' was purely because Pang was afraid of the power Zhao held over the troops. |
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SUSb3rnard7
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Dec 18 2007, 11:48 AM
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I only like the quote in this movie,which is before the soldiers go to battle field. 抢钱，抢粮，抢娘们! (snatch their money,snatch their food,snatch their women) This post has been edited by b3rnard7: Dec 18 2007, 11:50 AM |
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Mido_Ban
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Dec 18 2007, 05:31 PM
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Getting Started
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Was having high expectation about this month a few months ago when i saw the trailer,but it was huge disappointed.Especially takeshi kaneshiro keep repeating "BROTHER IS RIGHT" (in chinese) and the fighting scene dosent show much of the strategy mention by jet li...The script of the movie is quite boring...I hope next time they dun wasted those good actor "Andy lau,takeshi kaneshiro and jet li"...
Rating (2/5)
I recomemded you watch with low expectation...
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Belphegor
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Dec 18 2007, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Dec 18 2007, 05:31 PM) Was having high expectation about this month a few months ago when i saw the trailer,but it was huge disappointed.Especially takeshi kaneshiro keep repeating "BROTHER IS RIGHT" (in chinese) and the fighting scene dosent show much of the strategy mention by jet li...The script of the movie is quite boring...I hope next time they dun wasted those good actor "Andy lau,takeshi kaneshiro and jet li"... Rating (2/5) I recomemded you watch with low expectation... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Second that. I also expecting some other things than just like the movie did. The storyline too boring. In seconds I thought the movie is about Love and Lust.  They shouldn't put too much love and relationship into the movie or the audience would focus more on that, even there's little scene of those. I hate to watch movie like this. 3 person becomes brother, and fight against each other. Worse to worse, brothers kill each other. ended up all 3 brother died. Is kind of wasting money to watch something like that. |
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chibi_tenko
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Dec 18 2007, 08:32 PM
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It's a war movie and the director even emphasize during one of his many interviews that it is and will be a war movie.
No flying wuxia moves or pretty girls with flowing sleeves/dresses like in House of Flying Daggers or Hero.
With all due respect, if you want to rant, go ahead but be considerate and use a spoiler. Surely you have read the reviews before watching the movie and you will know that it's a movie about brotherhood and betrayal, then why go ahead and watch it only to rant about it?
This movie is not an epic movie but it's not that bad either.
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MoriJenn
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Dec 18 2007, 09:19 PM
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New Member
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Watched last week, was quite awesome with the blood being shattered everywhere. The phrase of Takeshi kept on repeating really makes me laugh. |
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skymyxe
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Dec 18 2007, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Dec 15 2007, 06:01 PM) great movie.... its really nice........ i rate it higher than I am Legend.... Really? Then I should go and watch this. I thought I Am Legend would be the best show for the X'mas season. We'll see how Warlords goes for me.  |
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jdreamer
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Dec 19 2007, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 18 2007, 08:23 PM) Second that. I also expecting some other things than just like the movie did. The storyline too boring. In seconds I thought the movie is about Love and Lust. They shouldn't put too much love and relationship into the movie or the audience would focus more on that, even there's little scene of those. I hate to watch movie like this. 3 person becomes brother, and fight against each other. Worse to worse, brothers kill each other. ended up all 3 brother died. Is kind of wasting money to watch something like that. OH GOSH! USE SPOILER LAH!!  QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Dec 18 2007, 08:32 PM) It's a war movie and the director even emphasize during one of his many interviews that it is and will be a war movie. No flying wuxia moves or pretty girls with flowing sleeves/dresses like in House of Flying Daggers or Hero. With all due respect, if you want to rant, go ahead but be considerate and use a spoiler. Surely you have read the reviews before watching the movie and you will know that it's a movie about brotherhood and betrayal, then why go ahead and watch it only to rant about it? This movie is not an epic movie but it's not that bad either. I couldn't agree more.  |
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virginslayer
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Dec 19 2007, 12:52 PM
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stupid movie la...talk talk talk..not my kind..i tot it's cantonese..and it turn out to be mandarin.
watched for 20minutes then i sleep until the end where the army shoot all the troops in the building and they chain andy lau.
jet li damn chibye. he kill andy lau to get the position n girl.but the most chum also jetli..at the end he kena stab and shoot.
but i like the idea they use etc, takeshi stab and army shoot jetli from behind with the canon fired up..wah...so nice.
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chibi_tenko
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Dec 19 2007, 01:57 PM
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I have the feeling that some of you guys here are purposely spoiling the movie for others who haven't watch it.
No one cares a damn whether you like it or not but please la, use a spoiler. Some idiot already spoil I Am Legend with their fantastic spoilers, don't spoil this movie for other people as well.
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xxcha0sworldxx
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Dec 19 2007, 03:00 PM
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Getting Started
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watch this movie yesterday!!
really awesome , especially the first war...wowowowwoowow
btw,..
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wasnt jet li's fault!! blame the bit_h and the goverment!!!
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miloy2k
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Dec 19 2007, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(xxcha0sworldxx @ Dec 19 2007, 03:00 PM) watch this movie yesterday!! really awesome , especially the first war...wowowowwoowow btw,.. ... wasnt jet li's fault!! blame the bit_h and the goverment!!! not it is not Jet Li fault.. its the movie director fault XD |
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sayming
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Dec 20 2007, 03:27 AM
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The audio presentation helped the movie a lot though the ending is quite typical and nothing really new IMO.
Overall, I think it's worth watching. They throw in action at the right time thus making the pacing of the movie very good.
Recommended watch!!
(Jet Li looks fat, Andy Lau looks like he is in that previous war movie and Takeshi Kaneshiro is as cool as ever)
Oh and whoever who worked on the english subs is really good at subbing. The translation is very very accurate. Kudos to the subber
This post has been edited by sayming: Dec 20 2007, 03:28 AM
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jdreamer
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Dec 20 2007, 09:17 AM
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I watched the movie last night. It was good.  |
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maximus85
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Dec 20 2007, 12:21 PM
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its better than I am Legend.....
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greyshadow
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Dec 21 2007, 11:34 AM
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It's a good movie with a tragic story, with lots of emotion involved. Reminds me of one of Shakespeare's tragic stories.
Three man with different personalities and different vision, Pang(Jet) has a vision for a better China, better living for the poor, Zhao(Andy) just want to take care of his brotherhood and family while Jiang(Takeshi) is a firm believer in the blood oath they took, he also act as the buffer between Pang and Zhao when conflict arise.
Emotions and acting in this movie is top notch alright, all three are great in expressing their emotion.
Btw, those expecting lots of kungfu fighting and action shouldn't go watch this movie, as this is more of a tragic drama story of three blood oath brothers, having different personalities and vision and having conflicts and misunderstanding because of that.
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