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post Nov 26 2007, 06:07 PM, updated 19y ago

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Almost missed this but here goes: Kotaku talks about the R4 (link here, do check out the comments)

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Nintendo's Biggest Threat? R4
It's called the R4, and it's here to rain on Nintendo's parade. The R4 fits right into the DS's cartridge slot. Data is stored on a Micro SD and downloaded via a flash drive. The R4 has a small slot that the Micro SD card goes into. The China-made piracy device is available all over Akihabara, where retailers advertise it vaguely: "New R4 shipment has finally arrived! You know what it does! Absolutely no questions will be answered concerning this product..." or "Guaranteed for one week only! Of course we can't explain what the R4 will do..." Says a Nintendo spokesperson:

We are keeping a close eye on the products and studying them. But we cannot smash all of them.

With DS games appearing on the internet within days of release, the R4 is certainly be a very real threat. And something Nintendo should be keeping a closer eye on.


Here's the original article on the Times Online (link here)

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The R4 chip is only small - but it looks like a giant pirate to Nintendo
Advertisements for the R4 chip in Tokyo
Leo Lewis in Tokyo

The R4 looks like a simple piece of plastic. It is just a couple of centimetres square, a few millimetres thick and unbelievably easy to use. For Nintendo it is the Christmas stocking filler from hell.

Made in China, available for sale over the internet and now doing a roaring trade on the streets of Tokyo, the R4 has emerged as perhaps the ultimate video game piracy tool.

Costing a little more than £20, the device is a virtually unlimited passport to illegally downloaded software titles for the Nintendo DS - the handheld games console that has taken Japan, and much of the world, by storm.

In the Akihabara electronics district of Tokyo, where the R4 has just gone on sale, the product is ubiquitous but deliberately shrouded in mystery.

Many stores advertise that they have the R4 in stock and describe sales as "very strong" but refuse to say what it actually does, for fear of potentially dire legal consequences.

"New R4 shipment has finally arrived! You know what it does! Absolutely no questions will be answered concerning this product . . ." reads the sign outside one electronics store just off the main Akihabara drag. "Guaranteed for one week only! Of course we can't explain what the R4 will do . . ." reads another in the store next door.

Other shops in the area are visibly nervous about it because it falls into what they refer to as a "grey zone" - the product itself is not illegal - but nearly everything that a customer would do with it probably is.

A floor manager at Iosys told The Times that the store was considering pulling out of sales following complaints; high street electronics shops refuse to stock it because it is legally questionable and damages sales of legitimate games software.

In the hands of the 35 million DS users around the world the R4 chip has the potential to deal a heavy financial blow to Nintendo and to the dozens of software developers that make games for the machine. Nintendo is Japan's third most valuable listed company with a stock market value of more than $85 billion (£41 billion) and revenues of $7.8 billion in 2006.

The R4's function is simple: it is a direct conduit for illegal game downloads and other unofficial software. Built to fit into the DS's existing game cartridge slot, the R4 will transfer on to the console anything saved on a removable flash memory chip.

Most DS games appear on the internet and are ready for downloading within a few days of the legitimate version going on sale. Vidoes on youtube. com offer first-time users of the R4 an easy-to-follow tutorial in making the device work. Salesmen even quietly suggest visiting youtube.com rather than attempting to decipher its Chinese instructions.

As an experiment The Times obtained an R4 chip and downloaded free of charge on the internet ten new Nintendo DS games - worth about £400. The games, one of which had gone on sale only the day before, worked perfectly. The entire process took less than half an hour.

The R4 is not the first time that China has exported the means of games piracy to the outside world. Games software is heavily pirated and available throughout Asia. However, the R4, said one industry analyst, takes games piracy into a new level.

Beyond the purchase of the device, the user never has to go to stores to buy pirated software. "The R4 gives ordinary users the ability to sit at home and just browse the internet for any game that takes their fancy. A few clicks of the mouse and it is theirs free. Unlike previous piracy tools, the technology is not intimidating," he said.

"We are keeping a close eye on the products and studying them. But we cannot smash all of them," a Nintendo spokesman said. Some believe the R4 may have the same disruptive effect on Nintendo's business model as early music file-sharing sites such as Napster had on the record industry.



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post Nov 26 2007, 06:50 PM

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ah the R4....the greatest thing to happen to the DS, hahah!

seriously i don't think the hardware sales in this region would have picked up so rapidly the last years without the R4.....of course that has also cause resale value of pre-owned DS games to drop dramatically too.... cry.gif
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post Nov 26 2007, 06:55 PM

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I don't know, in my opinion, the pirates will always pirates and legal buyers will always buy legal even if they have the R4 chip in hands.

And to me, these articles are like free propaganda for the R4 chips, lol.
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post Nov 26 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(why_79 @ Nov 26 2007, 06:50 PM)
ah the R4....the greatest thing to happen to the DS, hahah!

seriously i don't think the hardware sales in this region would have picked up so rapidly the last years without the R4.....of course that has also cause resale value of pre-owned DS games to drop dramatically too.... cry.gif
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now u know. brows.gif aiks, i also dunno whether this benefits those who own original games. while we can get cheaper original games, on the other hand we have to sell the games so cheap when we dun feel like owning it anymore. very conflicting. rclxub.gif
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Zoro, please watch this topic, if it turns into heavy piracy discussion, please close it. Thanks nod.gif

Edit: or to anyone else, use the REPORT button.

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post Nov 26 2007, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Nov 26 2007, 06:57 PM)
Zoro, please watch this topic, if it turns into heavy piracy discussion, please close it. Thanks nod.gif

Edit: or to anyone else, use the REPORT button.
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no problem. lol
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post Nov 29 2007, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Nov 26 2007, 06:55 PM)
now u know. brows.gif aiks, i also dunno whether this benefits those who own original games. while we can get cheaper original games, on the other hand we have to sell the games so cheap when we dun feel like owning it anymore. very conflicting. rclxub.gif
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actually if you go the the games store overseas or check out ebay, you will notice that most of the pre-owned games goes for very cheap, because games are so readily-available there, there is enough to meet the demand only rare and OOP used games demand a high fee.

only in this region does pre-owned games goes for such a high price because most games are difficult to obtain here, original version that is. so the deflated price is not such a bad price because i often see ridiculous price going on at the trade commerce rclxub.gif

of course i never intend to sell off any part of my game collection....

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post Nov 29 2007, 12:13 PM

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well, selling the r4 is not good for the shop either. coz ppl will stop buying original game and the shop are not profiting from it.
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well..sames goes as gun...kill or protect...
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post Nov 29 2007, 02:26 PM

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...another "pirate vs original" talk...sleep.gif" sigh..
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post Nov 29 2007, 02:46 PM

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you'll be surprised but the shops are actually profiting from selling downloaded games to ppl.
QUOTE(HMMaster @ Nov 29 2007, 12:13 PM)
well, selling the r4 is not good for the shop either. coz ppl will stop buying original game and the shop are not profiting from it.
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QUOTE(freak @ Nov 29 2007, 02:46 PM)
you'll be surprised but the shops are actually profiting from selling downloaded games to ppl.
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Yeah, in Klang (and probably everywhere else) kids come in and pick and choose what games they want, and the shop keeper will load the games into the R4's microsd card.
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post Nov 30 2007, 04:25 PM

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wow another way that they make money from free stuff..

 

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