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Nokia N95 8GB VS N82, Which one is better??

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post Jan 13 2008, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(ITnooby @ Jan 3 2008, 10:06 PM)
Yah, agreed candy bar and slider is the main different, that's why Nokia launched 2 almost similiar features phone with less price different.

Think back .. Ermm... When you hold these 2 phones on your hand, let's say forget about the brand and model. Which phone looks more like a RM2800 phone. Haha..

Just imagine one day Dell and iMAC offer same price same features of their laptop.. erm, which one do you think it looks more elegant, worth the price...

Tell me who will use all the function in N95 8GB daily.. even i strongly like N95 8GB.
WIFI: Do you use it to pop all your forward leisure mails (not important mail) in starbuck/WIFI area everyday?
GPS: Do you really need it that much in malaysia town area? Do you have so many chance to carry this GPS machine and go oversea for travelling and business.
HSDPA: Do you really know what is it by comparing to 3G? Everyone only know it is faster than 3G smile.gif Need to pay
3G: Do you use video call that much? Do you tele conferencing everytime? Need to pay
A2DP: I think people start to know how to use it perhaps

I can tell you that nowaday most of the high end handphone features are for future usage in country such as Malaysia. I read one article before by comparing how asian and european utilize the built in features of a high end phone... No offence, most of the people please don't waste the time to compare that much on the high end feature, your final decision will always made based on 2 things only haahahaha! Which are "Design" and "Camera".

Camera is not the most not important point to be considered in a phone when you are starting to understand how to fully utilize the whole phone. Other things are more interesting.
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I'm using N95 8GB. Apart from 3G and HSDPA, I use them all. smile.gif

Dunno about others, but for me, the design of N95 8GB tends to make you use all the functions, but if I'm holding N82 I'd probably use the camera hardcore only.

My view is simple, it's the multimedia keys and bigger screen make you more comfortable to use all the functions. Also due to the dual slide design, holding the N95 in landscape mode felt more like a portable video player cause you won't see the keypads. brows.gif
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post Jan 15 2008, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 15 2008, 07:08 PM)
but n95 if gaming in landscape mode with the keypad extending out not very easy right?
only thing i like about n95 is the infrared port. cant use remote control application on my n82  doh.gif
n82 has built in autorotate screen  flex.gif
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Nope, once the n-gage launch it'll support the music key as gaming keys. biggrin.gif However I do hope other game developers especially emulators can make full use of the music keys, then it'll be a real gaming device... biggrin.gif

Haven't make much use of the irport, gotta install the ir remote soon. smile.gif

N95 can also install rotateme mah, can even switch off on the fly and anywhere... biggrin.gif

BTW I went to Nokia store to play around with the dummy set of N82, the screen size surprise me a bit, it does looked bigger than I initially thought. So thumbup.gif for N82...

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post Jan 15 2008, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(uhlaw @ Jan 15 2008, 11:29 PM)
My friend just bought N95 8gb last week, and until today its camera lens already been scratched. charm lo.
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That's the downside lar, but no problem for me even I apply the protector after 3 weeks... wink.gif Still got lens door is better, at least won't kena fingerprint and accidently take photos with lots of fingerprints on the lens. smile.gif Just clean once in a while will do...
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post Jan 16 2008, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2008, 12:10 AM)
mostly on n-gage will support those keys. for other games to support would be too much trouble to produce multiple version of games.

i mean n82 rotate is built in, jz turn the screen the it will flip. no rotateme required.

n82 although candybar phone, is considered rather big for candybar.
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At least slide down the N95 and have the dpad at the left side and music keys at the right side feel more like a gaming device mah, and more comfortable to play games that way, hence there's dedicated gaming device N81. biggrin.gif

Yup the N82 is quite big but I'm comfortable with big phones though, too small I'll be rather clumsy to handle. Although I can't test the keypad and feeling of the tactile feedback (cause the dummy model dpad and keypads cannot press one sweat.gif), but the position is quite hard to do one handed operation or else will slip out from hand easily. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(uhlaw @ Jan 16 2008, 12:47 AM)
Is there any DIY lens cover for N95 8gb? for example, plastic cover or leather  hmm.gif
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Don't think so it'll be too ugly to do it no matter how, and no room for you to put anything on top... sweat.gif

Just get Martin Field Screen Protector, you'll get protecting film for screen, front camera, main camera, and flash as well. RM50 if get from bulk orders, LYN member "daijoubu" is the one to look for, or can't wait then RM68 including shipping directly from singapore (RM60 + shipping).
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post Jan 16 2008, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2008, 01:00 AM)
apply urs quickly and show some pics  tongue.gif
i wanna see how close the protector has been cut to match the button placements. not nice if plenty of gaps everywhere  shakehead.gif
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Honestly, the cutting is perfect (except the front camera, just tiny bit smaller but I almost not using it lol).

QUOTE(uhlaw @ Jan 16 2008, 01:08 AM)
So, u also using this Martin Field Screen Protector lo? Does it scratch-proof? hehe laugh.gif
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Not scratch proof, actually scratch quite easily (if kena sharp object la, finger nails aren't likely to scratch it). But hoh the scratch marks is surprisingly transparent and won't kacau the display (if scratch lightly la), it'll be invincible (I accidently scratch some when pushing the bubbles with credit card). So far no scratches on the main camera lens yet, so...Touch wood... tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2008, 01:23 AM)
far outta topic ady...anyway, the seller asked me topup another rm15 or so and he give me sticker protector for whole phone. i check and i see the stickers are not really covering the entire phone. imagine for the keypad, it's a big piece of 3 big rectangular holes for 3 rows of keypad. should be individual one by one then nice mah.. so i didnt take it. i still hvnt removed the original sticker that came with my n82 so that should work for now  thumbup.gif
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tongue.gif At least can let people consider if there's any protection available for N95 8GB. wink.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(laszlo @ Jan 16 2008, 09:54 AM)
i prefer xenon flash,im a camera freak and dont need 8gb,so N82 then
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Just FYI N95 8GB it's not about 8GB memory la that's just very minor comparison, at least N82 can get up to 8GB SDHC memory card now, and will support up to 32GB if it's going to be available. nod.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2008, 10:54 AM)
minor comparison...but in my mind, is a bit wasteful..like buyin a car with max speed 200km/h only to drive on 100km/h road. good luck using up all the 8gb tongue.gif
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That's why I never buy sport cars, wira do the job very very well for me... tongue.gif

Anyway I once almost stuck 6GB of datas in it, mostly movies cause I went to travel and took lots of pictures and videos, plus watching the movies I transfered on the go...So scare the memory will run out...8GB is a great balance, but to me 16GB is more like it, I can even put in more stuffs especially music files... biggrin.gif

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post Jan 16 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(jerm @ Jan 16 2008, 11:06 AM)
i concur that the only downside to it is that the 8gb is built-in, and not transferable.
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Dunno about what other think about this. Personally 8GB built in chip will gimme more confidence that it won't fail suddenly like memory card (I've had bad experience in the past). Memory card felt fragile to me, if buy good quality one can withstand rugged use have to pay even more. So I would rather hope for maybe 16GB built in memory than having memory card slot from future Nokia phones. brows.gif

I know if phone really kena accident the internal 8GB will also gone, but I've also experienced that my phone dropped, but miniSD gone together too...Langsung cannot access the memory card even though I can retrieve it... cry.gif
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post Jan 22 2008, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 22 2008, 08:05 AM)
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just superficial comment...obviously not user.
i can tell u that although n82 camera is very good, one small bad point is, it cannot stand on its own because the phone sides are not flat.
so when u wanna self take pic, have to set timer AND look for something to support the phone.
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You can, but only one side and in landscape. Open the memory card door, and rotate it a bit, tada, can stand liao. laugh.gif

Regarding the design, I've played with a dummy set recently, although the design is really not bad, and looks quite nice, but it felt a little too long and keypad too small (including the dpad area keys). Tried to operate one hand and my thumb still kinda uncomfortable to reach the lowest row of keys. The keys and dpad can't be pressed due to dummy set (I dunno why), really hope to play with a real set at Nokia store someday. smile.gif
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post Jan 22 2008, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(enJiNer @ Jan 22 2008, 02:10 PM)
go go n95 8gb..the best!!!
5MP camera ma!!!
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Eh, N82 also 5MP camera la, some more got xenon flash but N95 8GB dun have... sweat.gif
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:52 AM)
Yup..after use it for long, u will like your phone more..i am one of very good example...haha..
Anyway, one vote for N82 here...reason? please visit N82 official thread.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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No doubt getting used to the phone is one thing, I think the keypad on E70 is small for my fingers too, used to press wrong button often, but got used to it eventually.

But if there's something better to start with, why not? tongue.gif

No doubt, N82 is not just xenon flash, noise reduction, details and colour also have significant improvement over N95 family. Hopefully Nokia will put the same noise reduction algorithm to N95 8GB... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Clarencerx @ Jan 23 2008, 11:19 PM)
do u guys really need to take photos at nite?how much can the xenon flash help u?come on..pls b reasonable.
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I don't find I need (cause I don't have LOL). More often you'll need a good night mode pictures than xenon flash, in this case, N82 still win over N95 8GB. That said, N82 still win N95 8GB even without xenon flash. So if camera is priority, your choice is clear. smile.gif

Other than that, xenon is a plus. nod.gif

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post Jan 24 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 24 2008, 12:31 PM)
n95 and n82 will have nth to do with touchscreens.
oh wait....u're mocking us, arent u?
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Everybody is free to express their own opinion, and I find there's nothing wrong with whojen's statement, he was just expressing himself that he's waiting for iphone like upcoming Nokia phone that might or might not kill N95 8GB and N82, that's just his dream phone. Everybody has own preference, he did not like N82 doesn't mean he's stupid to choose something "inferior", and doesn't mean anyone who don't choose N82 is stupid, too. Moreover, where do you find his post offensive or even bashing N95 8GB or N82?

And please, monoblock phone user don't curse your friends and fellows around here. It's inevitable that sliders and flip phones sooner or later will have problems with the ribbon or slider, but it's also true that not every single user have the problem. Some unlucky ones have to deal a lot with the defects, and some don't. Like my brother, although he's not using Nokia, his SE S500i has been all good even after a year of usage and on top of that he even dropped his phone and knocked on the slider part, still work great until now. Also, N95 8GB is still young in the market, how the slider can tahan we still can't predict, it might be Nokia has improve the built quality that it might very durable and can last for long time. And don't tell us if we dropped our phone than habis, it's not about sliders will easily get damage or not, this is merely just cursing. Would you feel good if I tell you that N82 silvery paint will chip off like other older Nokia models even if you take great care of it? That said, there's always price to pay but it's a fact that sliders and flip is the only way to fit in more stuffs without compromising much of the overall phone size. If you look at Japanese phones, they're beautiful with great specs, and they're tons of flips and sliders. They can make it into monoblock, but do you think majority of people will want a big size phone to carry around?

Once again, for comparison between this 2 models, they're simply equal, and has been thoroughly discussed. There's nothing more to add in this thread, really.

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 24 2008, 05:40 PM)
thanks for the aspiring insight but you ppl have gotta take it easy. maybe my sarcasm has been misunderstood but in not once did i mean it in a demeaning way  icon_rolleyes.gif i too like whojen, am simply expressing and sharing my experiences in using the phone and have been very consistent in highlighting the pros and cons for boths phone in a very constructive manner. else would u prefer i come and give comments like "this sux,that sux, i like this, i like that" with no apparent reason and justification? i admit that i maybe have been negative towards those who choose their phone base on looks, but i pay good price for a phone, and i believe that for the price, phones have to redeem themselves with its capability and functions instead of just being a good looking expensive piece of brick. for smartphones, no matter how u put it, it will always be functionality and practically over looks.
noone here is cursing, in fact i would say that it is your own fear that the device will fail that has gotten the best of you. points brought forward are true, otherwise they will be discussed and argue till correct. if u believe what you said about problems not happening to anyone, then you dont have to worry. it is just a simple reminder, and should be taken as such.
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