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post Nov 25 2007, 04:53 PM


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Hi guys??

Recently I've come across an advertisement of a product named "Surbo".. a RM150 device that is said to have the capabilities of incresing the power of our car and less petrol to up to 15%.

It is said to increased the air pressure up to 2x and gives power to the car ala turbo.




Can be trusted arr this device??? hmm.gif

Personally I never trust any device that is said to help reducing the petrol usage of the car while at the same time increasing the power of it... but the advertisement is quite convincing hmm.gif
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lol
you spend first and see whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Nov 25 2007, 04:56 PM


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yaya....

u try 1st....
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post Nov 25 2007, 04:59 PM


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...... long time no heard this surbo liao ~ lolz ~

still got selling ?
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:00 PM


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their site...its confusing how it works
http://www.surbo.net/
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:01 PM


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Get a real turbo man... would u want to lose face after being tailed or overtaken by a real turbo car?

As for consumption... where there is a power increase, the fuel economy will go down. Newton's law... what goes up must come down.
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:02 PM


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eh.. got website pulak. I google just now got only a place in Italy sweat.gif

And now the website really is not that convincing lar...

Dunno should try or not... I pulak jadi kambing hitam arr?? sweat.gif


Really no one here has try it arr??
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:03 PM


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Go to Zerotohundred.com and find out... many tried, works for a while and later throw it away.
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:09 PM


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zerotohundred.com... heard it many times. Very famous site arr/?

Will head there now... thanks guys.
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:10 PM


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QUOTE(Satria-Craze @ Nov 25 2007, 05:02 PM)
eh.. got website pulak. I google just now got only a place in Italy sweat.gif

And now the website really is not that convincing lar...

Dunno should try or not... I pulak jadi kambing hitam arr?? sweat.gif
Really no one here has try it arr??
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no lah ~ u not being a black sheep ~ u just been supporting subro nia ~

I think got few ppl here have this stuff
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:16 PM


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I heard that this Surbo is basically a cone shape thingy which fixed into the air intake filter.
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:17 PM


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look like those X 1R product! duno can be trusted or not!
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:22 PM


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QUOTE(johnkor @ Nov 25 2007, 05:17 PM)
look like those Coupefan/johnkor clones! duno can be trusted or not!
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edited for justice/truth/lulz
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wah sei like this aslo wana play !sot sot tei !
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:26 PM


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Bro, 1 advise from some old uncle tongue.gif Dun waste ur money here, get a real turbo or change to better car if u can afford it. Better still, stay stock =)
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:46 PM


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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 25 2007, 05:01 PM)
Get a real turbo man... would u want to lose face after being tailed or overtaken by a real turbo car?

As for consumption... where there is a power increase, the fuel economy will go down. Newton's law... what goes up must come down.
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I support his words actually. ~ I mean on the 2nd column.

If you wan performance, u lost on FC. same thing if you wan good FC, you lose performance

If these were good, They carmaker will take this technology and selling.
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:55 PM


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And with petrol going up as high as RM 2.50, many would downgrade their cars. I'm thinking of a smaller Smart fortwo in a couple of weeks because my current car is a fuel guzzler (RM 50 @ 150km) due to previous turbo upgrades increase the power from 156hp on wheel to 265hp on wheel. However, I'm not selling mine but will instead use it for as weekend car.
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post Nov 25 2007, 05:58 PM


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Useless things..rather use that money to pump petrol.. wink.gif
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post Nov 25 2007, 06:03 PM


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wow.. most comments doesn't sided on surbo.

Like this I dun wan to install anymore... save money go for mivec better... sweat.gif
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post Nov 25 2007, 06:19 PM


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QUOTE(Satria-Craze @ Nov 25 2007, 06:03 PM)
wow.. most comments doesn't sided on surbo.

Like this I dun wan to install anymore... save money go for mivec better... sweat.gif
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well, those product usch as surbo, cyclone and etc were not really having a good feedback.

seem those only hit and run product.
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1st u go get it
2nd u try 1st
3rd give us ur review tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2007, 06:22 PM


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A wise decision my friend... save up and get en engine upgrade instead. After that, if budget permits and income is stable... opt for turbo and be prepared to upgrade the stock seats because u will need something to rest your butt in.
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post Nov 25 2007, 07:20 PM


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RM150 only? Y not giv it a try?

I have no idea y others said save money to turbochange or swap engine or change car which need ar least 20 times of the RM150.....

RM150 only, go try n let us know...
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post Nov 25 2007, 07:49 PM


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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Nov 25 2007, 07:20 PM)
RM150 only? Y not giv it a try?

I have no idea y others said save money to turbochange or swap engine or change car which need ar least 20 times of the RM150.....

RM150 only, go try n let us know...
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the thing is, that surbo thing wont be a value for money item to be installed to your car. It may only works for a short period of time and later on it will fails. Well.. not actually fails, just that you've felt the surbo worked, but then you insists on for more power while in reality, that surbo thing maybe just cant give more power increment.. all in all, its a waste of money. Will you spend your money for something that only works for a short period of time? wink.gif

RM150 may looks small to you, but may not to others.
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post Nov 25 2007, 08:48 PM


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Ask yourself... if it really works, why no car manufacturer offer it as an optional item? And why no dyno charts?
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 25 2007, 08:48 PM)
Ask yourself... if it really works, why no car manufacturer offer it as an optional item? And why no dyno charts?
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should be also saying it for carb engine. this was phase-out tech stuff gua. brows.gif brows.gif

it just plain marketing stuff
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post Nov 26 2007, 01:37 AM


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What about micro compressor?
My friend's vios install it and say save petrol and more power..
I don;t believe that,anyone using it?
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post Nov 26 2007, 02:05 AM


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Devices that increase horsepower and together save petrol never comes together. More power means more petrol burned. whistling.gif
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post Nov 26 2007, 02:30 AM


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Lame website. Looks like created by a little kid. lol.

The so called "dyno" is a graph made in Microsoft Office. LAWL.
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post Nov 26 2007, 02:32 AM


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u want turbo, get a proper turbine and turbo setup lah... why waste
money in gimmicks such as surbo... doh.gif
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I make for u using coke can, cost? One teh tarik and 10minutes =p
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 26 2007, 02:32 AM)
u want turbo, get a proper turbine and turbo setup lah... why waste
money in gimmicks such as surbo... doh.gif
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nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif ..
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Nov 26 2007, 02:34 AM)
I make for u using coke can, cost? One teh tarik and 10minutes =p
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haha.... i order first
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ppl still got sell this stuff ? haha ..
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huh...
15% power increase...
is that mean a 100HP car can get a 15HP extra power..
seem impossible...???
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post Nov 26 2007, 07:33 AM


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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 25 2007, 06:01 PM)
Get a real turbo man... would u want to lose face after being tailed or overtaken by a real turbo car?

As for consumption... where there is a power increase, the fuel economy will go down. Newton's law... what goes up must come down.
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i guess TR20DET is better with his car instead
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It had two surbo in the market. One is the cyclone surbo and another surbo is this,

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I know some ppl already using this surbo in S.I.E. and it claimed it work. Improve braking power and also pick up.. only RM170.
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it might increase ur car performance but you will end up losing FC
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The metal canister should be filled with cap ayam air filter (and magnet maybe) which guarantees to give you more dust particle into your engine.

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just use that rm150 in a massage centre! sure enjoy more than installing all that crap!
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QUOTE(maddriver @ Nov 26 2007, 09:28 AM)
just use that rm150 in a massage centre! sure enjoy more than installing all that crap!
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nod.gif well said nod.gif
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post Nov 27 2007, 06:01 PM


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haha surbo is still on? man.....

it is like a fan that have so called special angle plate to create vortex when u put it in ur intake hose..

save ur money...u wan i can teach u how to DIY one..concept is simple
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 25 2007, 05:01 PM)
Get a real turbo man... would u want to lose face after being tailed or overtaken by a real turbo car?

As for consumption... where there is a power increase, the fuel economy will go down. Newton's law... what goes up must come down.
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Nov 26 2007, 02:05 AM)
Devices that increase horsepower and together save petrol never comes together. More power means more petrol burned. whistling.gif
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not really. if u study thermodynamics increasing the pressure would increase the efficiency and the power/combustion ratio. but sometimes the fuel/air mixture has to be adjusted to create a proper combustion and that might increase the fuel consumption. its all highly dependant on many factors. needless to say, i sucked at my thermodynamics.
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i think surbo is used in some merc rite?? anyway whats the diff with supercharger??
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Nov 27 2007, 08:13 PM)
i think surbo is used in some merc rite?? anyway whats the diff with supercharger??
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supercharger=compressor. turbo uses exhaust gasses. supercharger uses an extra belt pulley to run the compressor. turbo usually has some sort of lag depending on the turbine size. but the compressor usually uses some hp to create more hp. i suggest reading up more on the net.
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yeah, supercharge disengage in top end. means its more of low and mid end power. good for cruising around town with fast acceleration. turbos are on the mid and top end. cause they often lag on low end. surbo has been standards in some car.

Some cars have surbos design fitted in the engine as standards. my friend told me if you rip open some of the pipings, you'll see some swirl design fins. not sure abt it.
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Nov 25 2007, 07:20 PM)
RM150 only? Y not giv it a try?

I have no idea y others said save money to turbochange or swap engine or change car which need ar least 20 times of the RM150.....

RM150 only, go try n let us know...
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A try? bro, this surbo thingy has been around since 3-4 years ago. Lots of people triy it and the feedback is not really good. IMHO the thing is working technically but the impact is very..very minimal(u cant even noticed)...for rm150..better spend it on fuel.


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QUOTE(porkchop @ Nov 27 2007, 08:13 PM)
i think surbo is used in some merc rite?? anyway whats the diff with supercharger??
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Surbo in Volvo or Saab means soft turbo. In other word low boost turbo, they still use the turbine..but tuned it at low boost(not this rm150 so called Surbo device). The only merc model use turbo is the one that say bi-turbo. Most merc use kompressor in other word supercharged. Supercharged system shared the same principle as turbocharged which is drawing more air into the combustion chamber(forced induction). Supercharged generate it turbine system by crankshaft while turbo by exhaust system.

Regarding the turbo lag problem..thats why the turbo manufacturer came out with twin turbo system to reduce or prevent turbo lag by separating one turbine 'duties' in to two. Or even sequential turbo system..which the two turbines works at different timing at low and high end.


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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Nov 27 2007, 08:17 PM)
supercharger=compressor. turbo uses exhaust gasses. supercharger uses an extra belt pulley to run the compressor. turbo usually has some sort of lag depending on the turbine size. but the compressor usually uses some hp to create more hp. i suggest reading up more on the net.
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yes...this kind of info can be googled up or to be exact at wikipedia or howstuffworks.

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my uncle use it in his unser last time...
for his car i can say can feel different la coz my dad has an unser also not too long ago ...
but i read lots of comment in forums and web ...that they got con badly...
huhu...too bad ey
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post Nov 28 2007, 08:35 AM


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the topic say -light pressure turbo system.....

izzit? eheheh
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hurm....wif pressure to maybe the air...if they say,small increase in performance,it does make sense..but if improve of fc...doesn't seems so..

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If ppl can feel the difference it's all up in the head, after spending money cannot feel difference, the brain can't accept it so it's made believe that the thing really works, placebo effect. To really test must go dyno test la. Butt dyno not accurate one =p
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Might as well go for v-power tongue.gif You only have to pay extra rm10 for every full tank (40L) than regular fuel
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