I think what he meant was 'there's no life on the rig'
the most interesting thing is looking at that piece of wood...

I had this experience before. I would like to share a situation that i've done myself. its works, but u must really confident on what u capable of. chances, hurm.. 50-50 i would say..

its my 2nd day on a new company, and another company call for an interview. so i didnt really thinking of moving again, but i just go and try my luck.

talk as i am.tell what i have done and i just be myself.


Interviewer: What ur expecting salary?

Me: Rm4000 (i saw in the advertisement before, the job offer 1800. Hehe)

Interviewer: we offering only 1800, as you are fresh grad in the industry. why u expect 4000?

Me: I have the knowledge, capabilities that worth 4000 and i strongly believe i could make more than that for this company.

(bla bla bla.. some of the chit chat.. then i go home.)


3 weeks later, they call if i would take the job if they offer 3100. but then i said if 4000 then i take it. few of nice talk again, hang up.

a week after that, they call again and offer for 3800. but too bad, i'm already move to another company who offer better.

Moral of the story, i think any interview we go, the important is CONFIDENT and BE YOURSELF.
others will come to you, if its yours.

bullys, you are correct, Dreamer mentioned before the task of recruiter is to offer as low as possible salary to the candidates unless you dare to nego with them ...

wow...that's double the orignal price =='

but i tot some of them said...
" in the art of negotiating, the 1 offer 1st the 1 will lose"

and some more if lets say i'm from cust service line
wanna change line to logistic

how to ask in a polite manner?

That's simply amazing. Going against the grains and you are the one that stand out. Congrats!

Which is better?

Salary RM10k, stay and work in KL
Salary SGD5k, stay and work in Singapore.

which place more friends? i'll stick with that one

Unlikely to be true.

There's plenty of fresh graduates around. No particular reason to keep increasing their offer unless there's no other graduates around, or you have specialized skills not easy to find which would not be the case since you are a fresh graduate.

i tried that, they offer 1.8k as well...
but i only managed to bargain it to 2.5k
but it's definitely negotiable depending on how to deal with it

it true.

Mr bullys, may i know which company u r working for..or at least where is ur place of work??miri?? coz i have an offer dat i would like to ask ur opinion for..maybe u have any experience dealing with the company,or have any friends working there..

Job Title : Sales Administration
Age: 22
Job Description : Sell products, do administration and paperworks, collection.
Years spent in company : 5 months
Company : Local Developer
Industry : Property
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 0
Salary : RM2,300 basic + RM200 petrol
Bonus: Annually : Never received before. Heard max is 2.5 months.
Working hrs: 9am-6pm
Allowance: Sun/Pub Hols work RM50/day + 1 replacement leave.
Overtime : No OT

Am i underpaid? Should i look for a job that pays better elsewhere??

This post has been edited by plush: Sep 5 2009, 12:20 PM

PM me sir!

i think its normal in sales field...they earn alot through commission though...

me..

Age: 24
Job Title :Admin Executive
Job Desciption : Manage admins and account
Years spent in company : 6 month
Company : Sdn Bhd
Industry : Beauty and Health
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : -
Experience before joining : Fresh graduate
Salary : RM 1.5 k basic (OT every 15th)..sob sob..

RM10K la.

in KL, 1 plate of maggie goreng costs RM4, u can eat 2,500 plates.
in SG, 1 plate of maggie goreng costs $4, u can only eat 1,250 plates.

Do the maths.

Job Title : Analyst Programmer
Age: 25
Job Description : Coding in vb.net
Years spent in company : 1 1/2 year
Company : small? (~20 staff)
Location : PJ area
Industry : IT - health industry
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : fresh grad
Salary : RM 2,600 (was 2k when i joined)
Working hrs: 9am-6pm (no OT)
Extra : 1 parking lot and company phone

Any comments? My friends told me that I could get better pay.

although SGD5k, but if the person is competence & decided to develop career in foreign country, then worth it.

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Added on September 8, 2009, 9:22 amto make the future boss more itchy of you, never directly disclose how much you want
boss: how much expeted salary
me: i believe i should be compensated as a top performer.
then just stare the interviewer calmly & remain silent with sweet + confidence smile

then he/she will be surprised & little bit shocked for a moment, & become more interested to have the deal with you

i read it from a book & actually tested it out & it works great

This post has been edited by laucn: Sep 8 2009, 09:22 AM

just got promotion.. rm600 increment..

Job Title : Senior IT Support Executive
Age: 31
Years spent in company : 1 1/2 year
Company : MNC
Location : KL
Industry : Research
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 5 years
Salary : RM 3,600 (was 3k when i joined)
Working hrs: Shift

still feel underpaid and likely to jump ship next year.

congrats on the increment....