You changed your working environment at the age of 35? Do you feel any difficulty in it? Don't you feel it is a bit risky to do so?

Well, in Spore fresh graduate with degree from Poly can easily earn S$2700 and the great thing is we can easily save more than 50% of our paid. I just don't understand why our friend said never compare with Spore....hahaha, probably we hv no way to compete liao. Here the pay is quite pathetic and living cost also killing.

sad...

if it is me.. i decline

why u wanna decline if it's u? im just thinking that nowadays fresh grad cant be so demanding.

Same with me.

Age : 23
Job Title : Assistant Boiler Engineer
Job Desciption : Providing solutions on Boilers in Power Industry
Years spent in company : 5 mths
Company : Alstom Power Service (China)
Industry : Power
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Graduate Engineer
Experience before joining : None
Location : HK & China
salary : Approx HKD16,000 (MYR7K++)
Benefit : Travel expense claim, daily allowance if working in China, CNY bonus plus yearly salary review
Cons: Have to stay far away from family

sad.....

it this how our freshgrad's thinking now?

How freshgrad should thinking now and why?

freshgrad now can demand high salary? i think with rm1750 plus benefits and allowance already enough for me, at least for the start and that's an average salary for fresh. dont compare with banking or oil&gas industry la...

my parents paid my uni fees totalling around 130k and if i earn 1750.. how long would it take to justify what they paid...

i worked in starbucks and i earned rm6.4k ... go figure

Exactly the point. You forgot about the living expenses at uni time, i believe it surely more than your uni fees. 1750, either the company not doing good, or they are abusing their employee.

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Added on February 24, 2008, 2:56 amdid you survey the market price before you say that's the average pay? Anyway, if you are happy with that, then jsut stick with it.

This post has been edited by iDk: Feb 24 2008, 02:58 AM

hmm.. the statistic is from jobstreet.. u will find out that most of the company will give around rm1500-rm2000 to fresh grad.. if u read starjob every sat, the salary will be around that also.. fresh grad working for INTEL also get rm2900. banking field also give around rm2200-rm2800 to fresh grad. so what the heck with your rm6.4k????

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Added on February 24, 2008, 5:47 amforgot to mentioned.. my friend (fresh grad) working at sclumberger(management trainee). the pay is rm4900. starbuck really got so many bucks. i wonder if the waiter with SPM earned rm2000++ permonth..

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Added on February 24, 2008, 5:50 amanother thing to be mentioned, dont tell me that u r working with starbuck in US...

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Added on February 24, 2008, 5:54 am check this out....

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Added on February 24, 2008, 5:59 am@SeLrAhC : if u r an engineer, now u r senior manager.. iDk, maybe u r a manager rite now??

This post has been edited by mutt: Feb 24 2008, 06:00 AM

brother.... like you say, intel is paying 2.9k for 1st class grad. Just take that as the benchmark, k? You dont forget intel is in penang, i assume you are at selangor. So your expenses here is higher than penang (dont put in the land property thingy). At melaka, infenion paying 2.6k, same go with NS. And it is in melaka again. Living expenses much lower than selangor. At selangor should be atleast 2.9k. Dont forget intel, infenion, NS's job is office work, no need to travel outside to site. But yours need to travel, go site some more. One simple thing, your company how they count the petrol? Mileage claim or petrol card? If mileage claim, you still might have the chance to cover your maintenance fee. If petrol card, then you have to pay yourself. Atleast you are using the company car. But from what i see, your company most properly will ask you to use your own transport.

Your survey is incomplete without taking account of other stuffs like location and stuffs.

Sorry, i'm not manager or senior, i just same like you, fresh and new.

This post has been edited by iDk: Feb 24 2008, 06:19 AM

im sure dont want to be abused and i will know and notice if the company try to abuse me.

rm1750 is the basic. forgot to mention got site allowance rm300 permonth. and my office will be the site office. milage claim 50cents per km.

im an average student. so with such salary and benefits im already happy. plus, i live with my family, dinner always ready, no utility bills to be paid... the conclusion is, i already got free accommodation. anyway, rm1750 only for 3months period. maybe after that can increase up to rm2.2k? who knows..

another thing to tell u.. actually, bahan mentah like ikan, sayur etc.. are cheaper in KL compared to some other states.. also we have hypermarkets (tesco,giant,c4) which every stores will put the price just the same (except for the bahan mentah). the thing to be consider is property (rental or house installment)

if in KL we spend rm6 for lunch, i dont think other states can be as low as rm3 perlunch. average will be rm4-rm5. so it just a slight difference. actually, ppl who live in klang valley spend their money more on shopping and entertainment. that's why the salary doesnt look enough.

toll is another thing. this i admit that to work in klang valley, must consider this (but my company already give toll allowance) unless to opt out using motorcycle to work.

traffic jam = eat your fuel (this also the cons) but we can always use motorcycle.

end of my story.. lol

increment of 25%, very unlikely to happen. At mlk, one meal cost around 2.5~3. The distance maximum is 20 minutes drive at mlk with jam.

In the end, if you happy with what you got, then everyone also happy.

before look at the salary offered , 1st look at what quality n how much capabilities u hav in u and the potentials of the company tht offer u a job.
A low starting salary doesn't mean a low remuneration 2yrs later, some companies will do huge adjustment when u prove urself worthy n not based on ur background (1st class ? world class uni/col?).

In many cases, fresh grad tend to think a company tht offer low salary is hopeless n one tht offer high salary is the future....give u an example : a MNC offer 1800 for a start but train n groom u well with their training program VS a company tht offer 2500 but require u to immediately perform efficiently.

afterall, how many fresh grads is ready n fit for any job the moment they grad ? give urself 2-3yrs on field b4 u complaint about underpaid.


just my 2cents, not against u or any fresh grad.

im thinking the same way as u and im fresh grad..

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Added on February 24, 2008, 11:34 amoh man.. 2.5~3 per meal?? still got ah?? maybe nasi ayam can la plus air kosong..

This post has been edited by mutt: Feb 24 2008, 11:34 AM

Well said man...

If you know how to hunt... you may get a meal of that price...

im talking bout the average.. if want to hunt, no matter where we can hunt for cheap meal..

hahahaa... sry dude... i was earning usd XD

i believe most MNC offers a minimum of 2.5k ... chinaman maybe 2k... how do u make a comparison? check out the gov's pay grade and you will know.. gov is now a very employer and paymaster...

1750 is a total rip off...