Decent upper body. But no leg workout? That's odd.
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Feb 15 2008, 03:35 PM
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Decent upper body. But no leg workout? That's odd.
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Feb 15 2008, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Feb 15 2008, 08:45 PM) I aint a bodybuilder and I aint going for competition ~!!! You don't do leg presses, leg curls or even any form of calf work. I don't go for comps either but aren't symmetry and aesthetics components which are universally sought in all physiques, be it bodybuilders or non bodybuilders in the fitness game? I dont squat I dont Deadlift too... Different goals my friend ~! |
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Feb 15 2008, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Feb 15 2008, 09:22 PM) Yes Sir, Don't get me wrong. I think you have decent upper body development and pretty ok potential. And for your info, imo, the squat and deadlift, however effective exercises and mass builders they are, aren't a MUST to develop an impressive physique however much they help. I do believe and understand the rules of equilibrium, but currently i do not have plans to go as big till my physique looks unbalance. Even stating as such, I do not ignore the fact that I might start with leg routines in the future. Or Squat or Deadlift ~! I acknowledge their superiority in the bb world, but i'm just too stubborn to do it at the moment. That's my lost ~! I know it since the day I started training. Darklight, I really appreciate that u took the time to go thru my journal and telling me my flaws. I do not have excuse for any of those other than my own hard headed self. I'm tackling each goals of mine at 1 time at the moment. Thought it might be time consuming, it really indicate to myself what I really want, coz till now I am only holding on a vague future image of myself. Kindly do provide with further advice and assistance in the future ~! I quote here:- QUOTE(N0eL @ Feb 15 2008, 09:22 PM) I do believe and understand the rules of equilibrium, but currently i do not have plans to go as big till my physique looks unbalance. You won't get "unbalanced" even if you grow big proportionately, but you will look unbalanced if your upper body way overshadows your lower body development. Females will notice disproportionate legs, even through thick baggy pants. I'm not trying to sound condescending nor patronizing, just merely advising you to hit those legs before the gross differences between upper and lower body start becoming noticeable. You've nothign to hurt adding 3 sets of leg presses into every workout. =) But then, it's your call, i understand of course. To each his own. This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 15 2008, 09:32 PM |
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Feb 15 2008, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Feb 15 2008, 10:00 PM) The unbalance situation i spoke of is the one as u mentioned. Upper and lower body. At the moment, I'm still not big enough to be able to differentiate my non existent leg exercise. Leg presses, leg curls, calf work? It's pretty simple. =)Wont kill me to start reading about leg exercises though. Any recommended exercises? Adding another variation into my routine aint that bad at all i guess. Burn more fat in the process. |
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Feb 17 2008, 06:21 AM
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Nice. Added in the leg presses eh? Here's a fact, do you know that 15% of your arm size is determined by your leg size?
Think about it, many guys i meet want big arms, but when i look at their physiques, it's almost impossible judging from their lack of overall muscle mass. And where're the biggest muscles in your body? =) The legs and the glutes, which contribute the most to overall LBM. You do the math. Doing legs will help you a long way. |
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Mar 24 2008, 02:03 PM
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Squatting = good. Don't worry about some people indirectly dissin' your squat poundages. Take your time progressing in poundages as long as your form is correct and you're working out with sufficient intensity, that's good enough.
You're packing on decent size i assume. Keep up the good work. |
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Mar 26 2008, 12:04 AM
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Much much better. You're among one of the faster progressing trainees in the forum. Keep it up. Looking better than quite a number of people who've started much earlier than you. High volume bb'ing ftw.
You might consider now a traditional bodybuilding split or stick to this current routine if your poundages are still going up. If it ain't broken don't fix it. As for your rear lat spread, you need to learn how to flare out your lats properly by rotating your scapula in the correct manner. But progress is definitely there. |
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Apr 24 2008, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Apr 23 2008, 10:16 PM) Workout Routine A (23/04/08) SUN *4 Good. Very good. I like the adjustments. You seriously need to consider a traditional bb'ing split soon. Once you get much stronger, it's very hard to do all the compound exercises for each bodypart in one workout.Dips - Chest Version 3 x 8 x body weight + 25lbs SQUAT 1 x 8 x 135lbs 1 x 8 x 135lbs 1 x 8 x 135lbs Incline Cable Flyes 1 x 8 x 15lbs(x2) 1 x 8 x 10lbs(x2) 1 x 8 x 10lbs(x2) Barbell Bench Press 1 x 8 x 105lbs 1 x 8 x 95lbs 1 x 8 x 95lbs Hammer Curl 1 x 8 x 30lbs(x2) 1 x 8 x 30lbs(x2) 1 x 8 x 25lbs(x2) Tricep Pushdown 1 x 8 x 31.5kg 1 x 8 x 31.5kg 1 x 8 x 28kg Hanging Leg Raise 3 x 12 Side Bend 3 x 12 x 50lbs Seated Calf Raise 1 x 8 x 100lbs 1 x 8 x 100lbs 1 x 8 x 100lbs |
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May 2 2008, 01:20 AM
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Noel, now that you're getting stronger and gaining size and doing more volume, you need to up the ante on your diet to gain and maintain. More protein biatch! =D
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Jun 6 2008, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jun 3 2008, 01:28 AM) NEW ROUTINE Prefatigue principle? Never was a fan but some trainers claim it's effective. However, never, ever do less than 10 reps on isolation exercises, especially flyes and crossovers. You defeat the purpose of them in the first place. It is actually counterproductive to growth.Chest/Leg (02/06/08) MV Incline Dumbbells Flyes 1 x 8 x 35lbs(x2) 1 x 8 x 35lbs(x2) 1 x 8 x 35lbs(x2) Barbell Bench Press 1 x 8 x 125lbs 1 x 8 x 125lbs 1 x 8 x 120lbs Dips - Chest Version 3 x 8 x body weight + 25lbs Squat 1 x 8 x 135lbs 1 x 8 x 135lbs 1 x 8 x 135lbs Leg Extension 1 x 8 x 65kg 1 x 8 x 65kg 1 x 8 x 65kg Seated Calf Raise 1 x 8 x 100lbs 1 x 8 x 100lbs 1 x 8 x 100lbs Bicycle Crunch 3 x 20 Leg Raise 3 x 12 x Body Weight + 15lbs Remarks :- Started off easy and Tiring towards the end of the session. Ain't as taxing as previous routine and probably able to lift more or add more sets. Trial and error till I get it right Diet 0900 - 1 scoop whey + skim milk + oats, 1030 - San Fran's Coffee Sunshine Bfast set + Coffee 1230 - Banana and Peanut Butter Toast 1300 - 2 Scoops VasoCharge + 2 bananas(Pre) 1330 - 1 serving Xtend BCAA(During) 1430 - 1 serving Xtend BCAA(post) 1630 - Chinese "Chung" dumpling 2000 - Broccoli + Pork 2200 - Hot Honey Lemon + Hot Honey Ginger Milk 0100 - 1 scoop Whey + HL milk |
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Jun 6 2008, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jun 6 2008, 04:56 PM) After reading the Pre Exhaustion technique, I found similarities from my own defined routine. I did not read about this till you pointed it out to me. I arranged my routines without the knowledge of this technique. That's fine. Definitely nothing wrong there with your rep/set scheme at all. Max OT principles by Skip La Cour and HVT sworn by people like Hola Bola and Ronnie Coleman both differ by a wide margin but they're all equally effective with a sound diet and good poundage progression. The obvious exception is HIT which suck balls.Well, basically i'm kinda aiming for 3 exercises per body part starting with a compound and finish it off with 2 other exercises. About the number of sets and reps, i'm still in a trial and error experiment to find the best combinations. So far based on past history, i'm doing very well with 3 x 8. With this new routine though i find the lacking of intensity with 3 x 8, therefore I am doing 4 x 8 now. Maybe I should try doing (3 x 10-12) or (4 x 10-12) and see how it goes coz with 4 x 8, I still aint feeling it. Thank you Darklight for indicating the latter. I guess it's better to increase the reps. Also, I've had some conflicting studies on pre exhaustion. My stance is uncertain on this since i have no experience in that but if it's working for you by all means keep going. But as for the iso's, it's not that it is better but it should be that way (high reps). Their function is to flush as much blood into the muscle as possible and go for the pump. Also, the probability of getting injured going low reps heavy weight on iso's are much higher. There isn't any benefit at all from low rep iso's. So, how do you find doing those low reppers for compounds? What're your rest periods in between? This post has been edited by darklight79: Jun 6 2008, 05:57 PM |
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Jun 6 2008, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jun 6 2008, 06:10 PM) Compound exercises definitely got easier as i will get sufficient rest with this split routine. Yeah, that sounds good switching it up every once in a while. I'm thinking of hitting straight sets for once and keeping the poundages moderately heavy but the problem is I'm addicted to lifting heavy. Resting time is still the same. Within 60 secs. I will go with 3 x 10-12 or 4 x 10-12 next week and see how it goes. This is only my first week with this routine afterall. Currently, I don't think that it's efficient enough as I don't really feel I get a great workout out of it. Addicted to High intensity sessions. I'm an adrenaline Junkie. I don't get DOMS anymore from my previous routine. But this new one, I'm feeling it ~!!!! |
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Jun 6 2008, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 6 2008, 06:54 PM) a spotter to me is just a sense of safety, so that you can push harder wihtout the fear of dropping the weights on you. especially on bench press. u need a spotter to train to failure.. but alternative like DBs will do fine. mah 10 cents QUOTE(N0eL @ Jun 6 2008, 07:09 PM) Exactly jones. That's the purpose of a spotter. Heh... someone asked me to be their spotter for the bench press. This guy loaded up 90 kilos. I was thinking damn... pretty impressive. Instead, what i got was a good barbell row workout at an odd angle while spotting him. I kep yelling "Yeah budday! It's all you!"But some ppl use them in order to lift heavier. I;m sure u see those alot at CF, and u know which particular group of ppl i'm referring to... |
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Jun 8 2008, 06:43 PM
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Wheeeeeeeee........................... splat.
Not really a fan of skullcrushers. Careful going to heavy on those, some fellas have got tendonitis because of them. Why don't you trying lying tri extensions? Same movement but more stretch and safer on the joints. |
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Jun 9 2008, 12:56 AM
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