wow..this thread actually made me sign up as a member...

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Added on August 23, 2008, 7:15 pmwhats the salary range have u guys heard of ..... need to have a comparison between........ module VS age VS years of SAP exp.



This post has been edited by cesarmora: Aug 23 2008, 07:15 PM

i think when it comes to inexperience ones, its Axon. You dont hear much complains from Axon because obviously, all you ppl hear is local news and Axon's core is not local, they're very Europe, US based.

I heard they have intakes, 3-4 times a year and its all for fresh graduates!

Accenture dont do fresh graduates, from the way i last heard they hire, even "experience" get rejected from their hard interviews.

JSPC was the perfect fresh grad company once, now they have joined with Axon. Infact all local companies are taking in fresh grad and training them.

So open your ears.

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Added on May 3, 2009, 4:58 pmTalk about the track record, not just the untung. Why does companies only choose oracle or SAP.. must be something right? You obviously have no idea how stategic options are evaluated and why they choose either SAP or not. When they ask for Accenture, they're already asking for SAP. Cause they'll send in their SAP negotiators.. You think ppl can simply go in and talk any solutions?

Chezzbal, if you can quote companies which are screwed up by SAP, or Accenture please list them all here. I would like to know and see if your facts are valid and not some relentless ranting. Cmon, talk facts..not just making noises of complaints.

SAP is for companies which can afford it ..yes, some pay for name. It is thee of the insanely expensive software, that everyone knows... Even decision makers know and decide before signing the multi million dollar deal, we're talking Ringgit here.

Some choose it for the reliable system supporting their business, be in oracle or SAP.. not some ah chong software called "cheezbal solutions"l for instant. Pun intended.

Besides all those Directors from the client's side, do you actually think the words of any sales man can convince them so easily to use SAP? They're some chinaman run, they are cost conscious...whatever they decide might well have some valid points, not to mention advantage of using a specific software.

SAP is expensive...OFCOURSE!!! wht the hell do you think?! I have seen and been in far too many other SAP consultancy companies, now sitting in MNC and I can assure you that those smaller cowboy companies are event worse.

Chezzball, remember your homework,

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Added on May 3, 2009, 5:07 pmcertified does not guarantee u high pay and a job btw. i know ppl who have paid 25k and struggle to find job in SAP.

First questions is..do you have experience. Second if you got family. And they will pay you normal salary, if got family a lil higher..Thats all.

This post has been edited by cesarmora: May 3 2009, 05:07 PM

Hhehe, yeah lah all those google thing I know. I'm no accenture fan, infact I'm digging up all the dirt I can find. If there's dirt I'll know, just like how Harald the CEO sold of ISS of all his share why? must be some story behind it, and that we must did..the WHY the HOW and the WHAT.

I was wanting to know about the local clients. Trust me, I've done some sale pitches and dont need to say project screwed up la, even sales pitching screwed up everyone in the market will know what more project screw up. So when you mention accenture, ofcourse yes on a global scale they should be crucified if they messed it up.

All those news on google, on the net yeap read them and I could not agree more, to a certain point. But compare them with the local companies in Msia, most are worst also, im not pro acc but i know when they do sales pitching, their rates are a little higher, everyone knows that but they still win projects, they still somehow steal the cake of others, I dont know if its the brand they carry or their sales ppl must be really. good.

For you if you're paid higher, perhaps its because you jumped around which is understandable- if not then you're simply blessed really.

I'm certified myself but my starting was no different than a master holder that joined along. All these years of jumping sure did bring my salary high, but i dont think its just because of my cert, in fact i can see it weighing about 20%, if compared to the 80% of "experience". Experience is such an over rated word in SAP world don't you think?


Btw when i did my certification it was 22,500K. Price has gone up huh.

I already have a hint where you're coming from... but indian consultants some are damn good, some are lousy crap. I've met some bullshitters and i have leaved fromfrom really good knowledgeable ones. Somehow asian consultants still have the edge, chinese especially. But then again, there aint not much green field projects no more. Those that want to do certification, be prepared to work very hard first 3 years, the 4th, 5th year ah the head hunters will start calling.

But on a second note, most malaysian head hunters only have the crap roles seriously. If you've appliedto all main MNC's and consulting firms, they are pretty much useless.

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Added on May 7, 2009, 12:33 amgiven a choice, which country will you want to work between these 4.

China (Shanghai)
Singapore
Thailand (Bangkok)
Australia - with 30% or more of ur money going to tax

don't go into detail, we're talking feeling here, which country you think as a SAP consultat you'll be able to adjust well if there is a project need?

This post has been edited by cesarmora: May 7 2009, 12:33 AM