QUOTE(castelloz @ Apr 19 2010, 03:52 PM)
How long u been in sap? 6,7 Months?
Crazy 2,3 months can do what?
SD/MM,FI simple reports display in alv, some conversion programs, and sapscript layout changes can la!
Some functional folks sometimes so stupid to think abaper just do coding in abap.
There are lot of stuffs la in abap, function modules, conversion programs using badi or bdc, sapscripts, smartforms, adobe form,
BSP, webdynpro, screen programing, badi, function module exit, data dictonary objects; tables,
data elements, structures, lsmw, workflow, idocs, and alot more la.
And the hardest i think is doing coding in object oriented because the design is the most important!
If ur design fail, everything will fail especially for complex requirements or to follow specific design
patterns eg: MVC. For simple program is sup sup sui.
And i havent talk bout performance tuning, sometimes this part is the most difficult one. Even to improve
1 sql statement also can takes a lot of time, need to try a lot of ways, views, inner join, subqueries, buffer, and ect..
And if everything fails the no choice; data archiving.
And do coding in abap also u need to code in the most efficient way, u need to know when to use local structures,
when to use field symbol, when to use CHECK statement, when to use IF Statement, when to use binary search, before use
binary search what u should do first, before use FOR ALL ENTRIES statement what u should do first to avoid the sql select all records
in the table, when u should use HASHED table and what are the do's n donts when coding abap and ect..
U think all these can cover in months meh?
And sometimes, being abaper u need to know some BW basic stuffs oso, because sometimes BW people needs abaper to do complex coding
for them. Eg: u need to know Start routine, end routine, routines in the transformation, need to learn to create
cubes, infoobjects, ods, load the cube, ods, master data, schedule them in process chain, do codings in ADP, do some variable
exit in CMOD to be used in query desginer, sometimes need to code in javascript for WAD,
and blablablablabla... Zzz..Zz....
Btw, u hardly can find good abapers in sap consulting firm la, because consulting firm dont really need a good abaper
escpecially the small sap consulting firm. They just need 2,3 seniors and the rest juniors and teach them the basics
like sapscript, do reports in alv, smartforms, conversion program, some stuffs in data dictionary, and
some badi or function module exit.
Thats all. And repeat again and again for different projects.
Some functionals(not all) are so stupid to think being abaper is so easy. Try to be one la before talk so much.
Thats why some abaper can easily tapau functional folks salary if they really good in what they doing.
Ceh.
lol, relak la.. small kids commenting. I never hear Java expert say Java is easy to master. Summore say can top abap in 2-3 months? obviously he only exposed to small area think he very pro in that area, nothing more.Crazy 2,3 months can do what?
SD/MM,FI simple reports display in alv, some conversion programs, and sapscript layout changes can la!
Some functional folks sometimes so stupid to think abaper just do coding in abap.
There are lot of stuffs la in abap, function modules, conversion programs using badi or bdc, sapscripts, smartforms, adobe form,
BSP, webdynpro, screen programing, badi, function module exit, data dictonary objects; tables,
data elements, structures, lsmw, workflow, idocs, and alot more la.
And the hardest i think is doing coding in object oriented because the design is the most important!
If ur design fail, everything will fail especially for complex requirements or to follow specific design
patterns eg: MVC. For simple program is sup sup sui.
And i havent talk bout performance tuning, sometimes this part is the most difficult one. Even to improve
1 sql statement also can takes a lot of time, need to try a lot of ways, views, inner join, subqueries, buffer, and ect..
And if everything fails the no choice; data archiving.
And do coding in abap also u need to code in the most efficient way, u need to know when to use local structures,
when to use field symbol, when to use CHECK statement, when to use IF Statement, when to use binary search, before use
binary search what u should do first, before use FOR ALL ENTRIES statement what u should do first to avoid the sql select all records
in the table, when u should use HASHED table and what are the do's n donts when coding abap and ect..
U think all these can cover in months meh?
And sometimes, being abaper u need to know some BW basic stuffs oso, because sometimes BW people needs abaper to do complex coding
for them. Eg: u need to know Start routine, end routine, routines in the transformation, need to learn to create
cubes, infoobjects, ods, load the cube, ods, master data, schedule them in process chain, do codings in ADP, do some variable
exit in CMOD to be used in query desginer, sometimes need to code in javascript for WAD,
and blablablablabla... Zzz..Zz....
Btw, u hardly can find good abapers in sap consulting firm la, because consulting firm dont really need a good abaper
escpecially the small sap consulting firm. They just need 2,3 seniors and the rest juniors and teach them the basics
like sapscript, do reports in alv, smartforms, conversion program, some stuffs in data dictionary, and
some badi or function module exit.
Thats all. And repeat again and again for different projects.
Some functionals(not all) are so stupid to think being abaper is so easy. Try to be one la before talk so much.
Thats why some abaper can easily tapau functional folks salary if they really good in what they doing.
Ceh.
btw guys, I want to ask how high SAP BASIS salary can go? mind to explain why netweaver going to replace BASIS? Netweaver job need to do programming? as i know netweaver is web platform for sap therefore MySAP.
This post has been edited by Selectt: Apr 19 2010, 04:08 PM
Apr 19 2010, 04:05 PM

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