buy now better wait for both real phenom or penryn out jan next year, then can decide which one more worth buying =P anyway, juz 1 month away =P
Phenom x3 and x4 now in Malaysia, The new K10
Phenom x3 and x4 now in Malaysia, The new K10
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Dec 7 2007, 06:14 PM
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buy now better wait for both real phenom or penryn out jan next year, then can decide which one more worth buying =P anyway, juz 1 month away =P
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Dec 21 2007, 03:32 AM
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really hard to understand, AMD already admits their processor still cant outperform current Intel processor by adjusting the price accordingly which is reasonable i think, why still arguing who got the best processor. We juz need a good performance/value processor....
Added on December 21, 2007, 3:37 am QUOTE(seng87 @ Dec 18 2007, 06:54 PM) Hie Guys... Anyway currently i think they are equally in term of technology. juz which one first, Intel choose to go for 45nm while AMD gone to native quad. Soon, it will be Intel go for native quad and AMD go for 45nm.AMD have a huge dissapointment to us as an end user, but as AMD Fans, I will stand by them, they need our support... They are lack of fund for their R&D to enhance their technology... As you guys know that the market place for Intel is larger, thus the profit for them is higher and they can do more on their R&D, in the other hand AMD is lack of fund and they can't do anything but to delay to perfect their processor... IMO, AMD technology is better than Intel, just that they are lack of money.. This post has been edited by timljh: Dec 21 2007, 03:40 AM |
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Dec 30 2007, 02:07 PM
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for consumer like us maybe not really realise wat native quad can do, i juz finish my research on multicore for my assignment, licensing will be a prob for MCM processor like core 2 quad, the charge for software is double as many company accept a MCM processor as 2 processor instead of 1 for native quad, therefore licensing cost for business is considerably high. the performance for native quad will outperform non-native in a multiprocessor system.
Added on December 30, 2007, 2:12 pm QUOTE(ikanayam @ Dec 26 2007, 10:36 AM) AMD won't be mass producing any 45nm stuff anytime soon. Their 45nm chip tapes out in january. Validation takes a long time, especially for server targeted parts. Despite their "catching up with intel on 45nm" claims, I don't see them mass producing this till end of 2008 earliest. early 2009 or later is more realistic. It's all marketing speak. thats same goes to intel as it wont go to native till tat period.This post has been edited by timljh: Dec 30 2007, 02:12 PM |
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Dec 30 2007, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Dec 30 2007, 03:12 PM) Please show me some licenses that support your claim. check hereAMD's per core performance is so far behind that even with the deficiencies of being non monolithic the intel chip performs better in dual chip configs, and even for many quad chip configs. For the consumer space it doesn't matter. Per core performance is still much more important. i lost other links only found this after check back history, maybe some say wiki is not trust able but the point for the licensing part makes sense, if they juz pack more chip on one module the company can saves millions for license, they willing to pay tat incentives to processor maker for tat saving. Added on December 30, 2007, 7:32 pmper core performance is better but the links between cores broke when it is non-native, they need to travel from die-die instead and power consumption is higher as well. u pay more for tat core performance as well as electricity for long term. for us maybe few bucks of electricity doesnt matter but try to think on the point of view for business, they can save a lot for electricity per month basis. This post has been edited by timljh: Jan 3 2008, 01:52 PM |
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