Went for the spider launch, i was seriously as impressed as Voltaire on his deathbed talking to a priest. Phenom simply isn't the magic bullet to kill Intel, and with it's shitty yields, how can AMD even beat them on cost?

The PR dude said that their yields were very good and that they were shipping in bulk. Then i asked, when can we expect in say the hands of customers, he said late January.

Logically if you're shipping enough chips, you'd be able to satisfy both OEM and Retail markets at the same time as Intel has done, but i guess this isn't the case if it's going to reach so late.

Anyways, anyone got any info on their workaround for the TLB issues, fish asserts that there's 10 percent perf hit, i'm very much inclined to believe, but sources are scarce.