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post May 7 2026, 07:37 AM

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The thing MITI did is to eventually keep jobs afloat in this dire fuel supplier disruption situation.

If foreign car brand come in with new tech, sure many people will buy those if prices cheap. What will happen to local industries? Sure the orders will get low, as sales of local made vehicles shifted to foreign brands.

Low local demand, local industries stats to suffer and layoff. Then creates more problem as of why the gomen no protects local company.

In other hand, MY progress too slowly in transition to EVs. When foreign brands comes in with loads of EVs, we have none EVs model to compete. Eventually will loose out to foreign brands with superb tech and low price (if allowed).

The gomen in dire situation which one hand to keep local industries afloat (keeping jobs) and the othe hand to promote EVs (reduces reliance on use of fossil fuel for transportation).

All boils down to slow react on gomen energy policy.
1. Late to adopt multiple source of energy generation especially renewable energy (solar)
2. Too relies on fossil fuel (coal, natural gas etc.)
3. Late to consider nuclear power generation.

Without abundant of energy source, not enough power to power up EVs in MY. China is different story as they uses EVs to store excess power that they manage to produces.
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post May 7 2026, 07:39 AM

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Ini pasti kena MACC nanti punya lah ... so one sided the deal... nampak sangat... hiding behind melindungi pekerja tempatan...

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post May 7 2026, 07:45 AM

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MITI can make decisions alone?

or was this reviewed by PMX too?
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post May 7 2026, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ May 7 2026, 07:36 AM)
the higher the better..to many cars now
what do u even mean? ice cars still affordable enough. so that doesnt reduce cars on the road. it only impacts cheaper evs to replace those ice cars. meaning NOT less dependence on oil for transportation needs.

if people need a car, theyll get an ice. so doesnt mean FEWER cars on the road :/
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post May 7 2026, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 7 2026, 07:47 AM)
what do u even mean? ice cars still affordable enough. so that doesnt reduce cars on the road. it only impacts cheaper evs to replace those ice cars. meaning NOT less dependence on oil for transportation needs.

if people need a car, theyll get an ice. so doesnt mean FEWER cars on the road :/
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So basically it's a bunch of people complaining they can't get cheap EV with fancy feature ?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 7 2026, 07:47 AM)
what do u even mean? ice cars still affordable enough. so that doesnt reduce cars on the road. it only impacts cheaper evs to replace those ice cars. meaning NOT less dependence on oil for transportation needs.

if people need a car, theyll get an ice. so doesnt mean FEWER cars on the road :/
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once the price of petrol going up surely u will see fewer cars on road.
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post May 7 2026, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ May 7 2026, 01:03 AM)
Can help to ask your boss why there's the rule 80% CKD has to be exported while the 20% only can be sold to the local?
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lek ah. belum mintak buat bateri kat mesia. laugh.gif
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post May 7 2026, 08:37 AM

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post May 7 2026, 08:44 AM
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Our local industry cannot support all this high tech industries, period. Even if we talk about semiconductor companies in Penang, these are mostly chip packaging and wire bonding factories only. See a chip made in Malaysia or Philippines? It's that process! That's among the lowest tier of process in semiconductor industry. Of course we don't need to talk about the rest of the industries. Until today P2 and P1 don't have own car platform, engine and gearbox (P1 used to have engine and platform but all are history now as they are subpar products). So, I don't see how this protection advances the nation in terms of technologies and creating values. It is only rebadging and to some extent, adding a butt to a hatchback. The local ecosystem supplies parts like plastic, seats, air conditioning components, infotainment units and other less vital components. There's no engine, gearbox and platform which are the 3 most essential components in a car. Buat apa, for so long? When you do something for so long, it must have an output that is substantial, else you should quit.
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QUOTE(ryujin0x @ May 6 2026, 11:30 PM)
MITI is correct here. Malaysia doesn't have the market to support the number of EV companies that China has. If too many cars, they might just close shop after X number of years leaving car owners hanging (then will hear why gov never do this or that). So to give company's like BYD, Geely profits in order to be here long term - they made this rule. EV's can easily do CKD here as its easier to install an EV compared to ICE.

Good policy. Need less emotional unstable people on the internet and how come these 'car analyst' or 'specialist' dont understand long term positive impact of a policy like this.
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Kroni protectionism at the best.


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post May 7 2026, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(ryujin0x @ May 6 2026, 11:30 PM)
MITI is correct here. Malaysia doesn't have the market to support the number of EV companies that China has. If too many cars, they might just close shop after X number of years leaving car owners hanging (then will hear why gov never do this or that). So to give company's like BYD, Geely profits in order to be here long term - they made this rule. EV's can easily do CKD here as its easier to install an EV compared to ICE.

Good policy. Need less emotional unstable people on the internet and how come these 'car analyst' or 'specialist' dont understand long term positive impact of a policy like this.
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next GE all these clowns won't be there liao.
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QUOTE(15cm @ May 7 2026, 12:18 AM)
why is this guy making video while driving?
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Anti EV wet dream lo ..... they so happy and better if no more EV here ...LOL
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QUOTE(tifosi @ May 7 2026, 01:07 AM)
Imagine this is just for handling vehicles. What blunders and mess they make on daily basis for other industries?

Really need to kick that fker Jo out
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Malaysia do have strong protectionism for local industries. All you do is report to MITI about cheap import dumping below cost and they will investigate and issue anti dumping bill with revised import duty to protect local industries.

For example, Malaysia did strongly protect its steel industry. Imagine that in order for me to import steel bars, I have to wrote letters to all of local manufacturers to ask them if they can manufacture these sizes that I want. After they replied in writing that they cant do it, only then will I be able to submit an application for AP to import these items.

But something happened. Najib got too close with China and end up giving up on certain segment of the steel industries, namely the long products (aka bars and hollow bars). So after a 10 years gradually reducing the import duty of long products, now we are stuck with a flat 10% iirc. Our steel mills manufacturing long products collapsed in the name of Amsteel and few others. Last I heard the last one is close to closing as well.


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post May 7 2026, 09:17 AM
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They are forcing manufacturer to do CKD if they want to do business in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(sankai80 @ May 6 2026, 11:38 PM)
Think of a car like a lego. You assemble all the parts here. MITI in their defense is not asking them to transfer technology for battery which will probably draw a sharp rebuke from Beijing if they did.

QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 6 2026, 11:55 PM)
As per Bobo. This is akin of pushing Toyota away when they came to our shores when Proton was still in its infancy and because of byd being competitive those glcs who own Toyota BMW and other German brands have suffered a slow death.

So tell me how is this good for us when it protects those glcs and suppliers?

Also because of this byd pulls out of the country. So the very thing the goverment doesn't want to happen, happens when those owners are left without byd support.

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Malaysia employs 700,000 people in the automotive industry. IF the Chinese car makers have vendor lock and negative margins, what do you think this 700000 thousand people going to do? All become salesman? IDK the rational behind why toyota was not let in so no comment.

QUOTE(brkli @ May 7 2026, 12:00 AM)
if ev car sold at RM30K, I wonder what will people do when the vehicle they using now spoilt and no longer support?
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They will buy new ones. But no EV can sell at 30K

QUOTE(periuknasi @ May 7 2026, 12:15 AM)
amalan membaca amalan mulia. miti rule for byd factory is 80% of volume for export.
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I dont agree with this policy too so MITI need to explain. However membaca amalan mulia - nowdays got AI if lazy to use google but profit per unit/gross/net profit per unit is different then CAPEX investment into factory ya. Two different things. I know its nice to char kuay teow everything at once but this looks like two different policies.

I am a fan of BYD and I think BYD should be given special exemption to sell their cars here under 100k with special rules on factory and maybe some parts and all service need to be done by local SMEs
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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 7 2026, 08:48 AM)
kalau saya tak tongkat, nobody can get tongkat

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Lets let mainlander Chinese people be saleperson. Their amoi all very pretty.
I guarantee you all the Chinese NGO, MP, Chamber of Commerce will support the ban. This is protectionist policy yes but for a reason.
In defense Malaysia need those manufacturing jobs more than the sales job so MITI should allow mainlanders to do sales if they need to negotiate.
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QUOTE(ryujin0x @ May 7 2026, 09:50 AM)
Think of a car like a lego. You assemble all the parts here. MITI in their defense is not asking them to transfer technology for battery which will probably draw a sharp rebuke from Beijing if they did.
Malaysia employs 700,000 people in the automotive industry. IF the Chinese car makers have vendor lock and negative margins, what do you think this 700000 thousand people going to do? All become salesman? IDK the rational behind why toyota was not let in so no comment.
They will buy new ones. But no EV can sell at 30K
I dont agree with this policy too so MITI need to explain. However membaca amalan mulia - nowdays got AI if lazy to use google but profit per unit/gross/net profit per unit is different then CAPEX investment into factory ya. Two different things. I know its nice to char kuay teow everything at once but this looks like two different policies.

I am a fan of BYD and I think BYD should be given special exemption to sell their cars here under 100k with special rules on factory and maybe some parts and all service need to be done by local SMEs
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So to protect 700k Malaysians, the rest of the rakyat are given the choice of Proton and perodua only. Next upgrade is a Volvo and a BMW ev. Nothing in between. Monopoly isn't a good thing. That's how Proton became lazy and had to be bailed out

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