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Technical PlayStation 3 FAQ For Beginners, anyone here like2maintain V2 FAQ thread?

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aiman04
post Nov 25 2007, 11:50 AM

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Hi guys,

I have fw questions that I put up in the other thread. Wonder if you guys could help me. See below.

Thanks!


QUOTE(aiman04 @ Nov 24 2007, 11:33 PM)
Hey Gurus,

I have done a lot of search through the internet, and learned a lot of things about PS3. But this time I have decided to ask my new friends here instead.

My PS3 is 2 weeks old, but now my HDD already filling up 50GB of the available 74GB space. So, I'm thinking of backing up now by upgrading to a bigger HDD.

Now, from my research, I am pretty much confident already to do the hardware exchange, the HDD is a normal Seagate SATA 2.5" 5400rpm.

But I have few questions to clarify before I do this.

1. I'm seeing that there are SATA-2 HDD, is there any difference, can PS3 use it? Also, can I use 7200rpm?

2. Because of the big data to backup, I need an external disk at least around 60GB in FAT file system. I know Windows can't format bigger than 32GB, but I found a software that can do it (http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197). The question here, can PS3 detect an external USB FAT drive bigger than 32GB?

3. The backup utility will keep all your game saves, pictures, videos, songs, but not the XMB, ID settings, etc because they are stored in somekind of a BIOS like memory. Now my understanding is, it will backup the demo games too, but not the purchased ones because of copyright thing? So I need to re-download my purchased games again? And I can re-download them as many times I want through the same PS3, but on diffrent PS3, 5 times right?

4. Downloading through PS3 is quite slow compared to my PC, can I re-download my purchased games using my PC and transfer to the PS3 (using the Folding@Home proxy link replacement method)? I mean, my PS3 must have been activated when I purchased the game in the first place, is it not?

It's been 2 weeks of extensive research about PS3 for me. Found a software that can extract AVC.h264, convert the audio only, and remux to create a .MP4 files from my .MKV HD videos (even splitting the file at 4GB if it's too big, PS3 have problems for videos >4GB playback, plus FAT can only store 4GB each file). If anyone wants it, you can get it here, http://sentry23.googlepages.com/. The software is fast, about 10 minute for a 3 GB video. This because it doesn't do any converting to the video because it's already in AVC.h264 format, it only remuxes it to the .MP4 container so that PS3 recognizes it  . But it mostly works with 720p videos only, even though some 1080p can be successful too.

I have also found a way to download PS3 demo games from PSN using my PC, using proxy to intercept the F@H download link. And learned a fair amount of stuffs about PS3 and purchasing games from US/JAPAN/ASIA PSNs using CC.

So, this time for these 4 questions I'm wondering that any of you seasoned PS3 owners here can help me, I'm kind of exhausted already.

Thanks!
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 25 2007, 12:52 PM)
aiman, tabik to ur interest in ps3

1. use back 5400rpm, more stable
2. yes, its able to read bigger size HDD as long as its FAT32, im using swissknife (go google)
3. not sure on the backup, but yes on the 5 times thingy
4. some can i suppose

are u stating tat the ps3 will display the vid @ its native reso of 720?
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Thank you so much for your helps. Also tabik to everyone here too. I also learned a lot here too.

Now I'm going ahead to upgrade my HDD, maybe get a 5400rpm to be safe. Swissknife, I'll google that.

About video playback? YES, we can play videos at its native 720p resolution, even 1080p.

I found two programs that are quite reliable to do it. I'll try to write about it a little bit. Might miss something, as I'm wrting from my memory.

PS3 Video 9
Recommended for remuxing .MOV Quicktime HD Videos

http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/

Can convert almost any video files to PS3 video formats. But converting big and long vidoes will take a very long time for HD videos at 720p or 1080p.

So they also provide a profile to extract AVC.h264 video and it's audio (it will convert the audio only if needed) from .MKV or .MOV (Quicktime) files, and then remux the video and audio together again, but this time into an MPEG-4 video container that is .MP4. This will take only about 1 minute for file that will take 50 minutes if you do the normal conversion. To use this don't use the wizard, but use the "current conversion" tab instead.

MKV file - Select "MKV Passthrough" method.
720p - Works 50% of the time.
1080p - Never work for me.

MOV file - Select "Quicktime HD MOV Passthrough" method.
720p - Works 95% of the time.
1080p - Works 95% of the time.

I still use this program to convert HD movie trailers from http://www.apple.com/trailers/#section=justhd which you can get 1080p trailers with awesome picture quality. And PS3 will play it that same native 1080p resolution!

GOTSent 0.23 Beta 6
Recommended for remuxing .MKV Matroska HD Videos

http://sentry23.googlepages.com/

If you don't already have it, you'll also need these two filters:

AC3Filter Haali Media splitter
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/

AC3Filter
http://ac3filter.net/project/1/releases

Doesn't do any conversion, only remuxes .MKV files to MPEG-4 video format for PS3. Very fast.

Just browse for your .MKV file, it will extract AVC.h264 video and it's audio (it will also convert the audio only if needed) from the .MKV file, and then remux the video and audio together again, into an MPEG-4 video container that is .MP4. This also take only about 1 minute for file that will take 50 minutes if you do the normal conversion.

Plus one extra feature, it can split your video at 4GB if it's bigger than that, because of 2 things. First, if you transfer the file using USB external FAT32 HDD, you can only put files no bigger than 4GB, second, I read reports saying that PS3 has troubles playing videos bigger than 4GB.

MKV file only.
720p - Works all the time.
1080p - Never work for me, but can be successful for high profile h264 videos.

Really reliable for .MKV files. I have download a certain 7.5GB .MKV 143 minutes video with 720p resolution, used this program to remux it, took about 15 minutes. The video was split to two 3.6GB .MP4 files. Transfered using my USB HDD, and the video played gorgeously at 720p resolution!

This post has been edited by aiman04: Nov 25 2007, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 25 2007, 05:39 PM)
im sorry, but i don see tat method in ps video 9
could u pls advice thoroughly
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OK. Here it goes.

After you launched PS3 Video 9, click convert, and then current conversion.

Click on "Convert video" to browse for your file, for example Quicktime HD movie trailer, Transformers_trailer_1080p.mov.

In the profile (inside "new video to convert"), select "Quicktime HD MOV Passthrough". Then click "Start".

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The remuxed video will be save on the location that you can set in the "Settings" area of the program, and go to "Devices" > PS3.

The same is true for .MKV videos, only you need to select the "MKV Passthrough" profile.

But like I said in the previous post, for .MOV videos, most of the times it works, but maybe 5% don't. If it don't, for a short video like a movie trailer you can do a full format conversion instead, choose any of the profiles that suits best. It will be much slower though.

And probablity of success for .MKV videos is much worse, so I suggest that you use the GOTSent program instead. Works all the time for me for .MKV 720p videos.

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 25 2007, 08:40 PM)
i think mine isnt the latest version, no passthrough

tried the gotsent, but alas, kenot
some issues, but im not sure wat sad.gif
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Download the latest version here:

http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/

The GOTSent program is for MKV videos only. It is really easy. Just browse for your file, set destination folder, leave everything as default, and click convert.

http://sentry23.googlepages.com/

Maybe you need to install these first:

http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/

http://ac3filter.net/project/1/releases

My method here doesn't change the video resolution, frame rate, etc at all. It just take it as it is and put it into an MPEG-4 container. So the picture quality remains as awesome. Hope you get it to work.
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post Nov 26 2007, 09:57 AM

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Really? Not really sure why...
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post Nov 28 2007, 08:41 AM

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Finally, I have upgraded my HDD to 160 GB.

I bought the Hitachi 54000rpm SATA HDD at LY for RM290.

Backing up (32 GB), formatting, restoring, all took more than 2 hours.

All my downloaded games, demos, purchased restored OK.

Thanks everyone for your tips!
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 28 2007, 09:44 AM)
wah, now socheap aredi.... only 290....
wen is the 1tb price gonna drop?
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Yeah, but Seagate is a little bit more expensive though.

I used the original PS3 HDD as my portable external HDD now.

Tried to connect to my laptop to see the content, but apparentlly PS3 uses a whole different formating itself. It is neither FAT32 or NTFS so Windows see it as unformatted.

I formatted the old HDD as NTFS now, I have checked out PSN forums saying it won't void the warranty. It was designed to be upgraded. No worries anymore.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 28 2007, 10:44 AM)
ur ps3 wont be able to read ur old HDD
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Yeah. I know. But everything's already been backed-up and restored to my new HDD. No files were lost. Working fine.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 28 2007, 10:53 AM)
no lar, i mean the externall kenot be use for ur hdd tats all, cos last time i reformatted mine to FAT 32 to support ps3

evo, i think now can aredi , early fw will allow either 480/576 or 1080 only
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Oh, yeah, I know about that. Forgot to mention I partitioned the old HDD to 2 partitions, one as FAT32 and the other one as NTFS.

Tried with PS3 as external, PS3 can detect the FAT32 part of the HDD. No problem. I can use it to transfer files to PS3. nod.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 28 2007, 11:20 AM)
aiks.. can detect partition ar?
i learn something new today
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Yes, it can. My other HDD that I used to backup the PS3 also had partitions, no problem. But of course, only the FAT32 partition, not the NTFS.
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QUOTE(-milo- @ Nov 29 2007, 06:58 PM)
oo..i rather have an official launch here rather than none..then maybe at least we can have our own m'sia psn account:P
not to mention easier to claim for warranties..
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We were also waiting for the official launch in Malaysia, but cannot anymore.

Just last month I asked the staffs at the Sony Wing in KLCC about it, even they don't know about it.

The rumour I heard is that they will launch PS3 in Malaysia together with the new DualShock®3 sometime next year.


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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Nov 28 2007, 10:50 AM)
Blueray movie can only run on 1080p? or can it be played in 720p?
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It can be played with an HD ready 720p TV, which will be converted to 1080i.

Only full HD TV can display at it's native 1080p.

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LOL. Had the PS3 for a month now, only now I notic this.

I see the "activate system" in the account management.

Anyone got any extra info for that? Should I activate or not?
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QUOTE(deitylord @ Dec 1 2007, 08:17 PM)
yo aiman
i tried the method u posted before using GOTSent
but it took like 3 hours to do it and didnt work
whenever i tried opening the folder my comp hangs =.=

anyway, those blu rays you downloaded audio is 4.1 or 5.1?
i read you have to set the lvl from 5.1 to 4.1 or else no audio or something
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3 hours? That's too long. Remuxing technique shouldn't take that long. What is the duration of the video? I have done it more than 20 times, all ran perfectly fine. I used the program for a 4.3 GB, 100 minutes video, took me less than 2 hours. I have also done it for a 8.2 GB, 143 minutes video, took me less than 3 hours, even that maybe because I also split the output video to two 4 GB MP4 files.

Do you have enough HDD space? The program will create files with the total size equivalent to the original MKV file. So to be save, ensure you have free space at least double the original MKV file. If you doing split, better have 3 times the size.

Or, was the video 1080p? Because as I stated in my post 1080p video is not guaranteed to work. Even if you successfully remuxed to MP4 using GOTSent, the most common case is that you will hear the audio but seeing black screen when played in PS3. But there are still some cases that it did work. These are mostly for high profile h264 AVC.

Which comes to your next question. The level 4.1 and 5.1 in this case is NOT the audio channels. The program will convert the audio to 2 channel AAC anyway because as of the current firmware, PS3 can't play multi-channel audio MP4 yet (I think so, haven't tried since the 2.01 update). The 4.1 / 5.1 here refers to the AVC.h264 main profile. This is the technical part of the codec, no need to know further about that as the program will do it for you. Do not change any settings in GOTSent. Just browse for your MKV file, set the output destination, if the original file is bigger than 4 GB, toggle on "split", and click "convert" and that's it.

Hope that will help.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 3 2007, 09:45 AM)
Can i ask how to change Ip address for PS3?
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If not mistaken you can do that through manual connection setting in PS3. Not sure if there's extra steps to do, like setting the router etc.

Never bothered to look because I don't really mind about my PS3's IP, always use automatic.

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QUOTE(friendly_ip @ Dec 4 2007, 05:50 PM)
Eh, i want to ask,

Currently i failed to connect to the internet through the wireless network.

My error is the DNS error.

Will it solve if i use a wire connection?

Biggest problem is i dont have the access to the rounter, damn sad.gif
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Got that problem before.

What I did, I disconnect the power cable for the modem and/or router for 5 minutes, and then re-connect. Worked for me.
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QUOTE(ps360 @ Dec 5 2007, 11:37 AM)
Can I save my PS3 game at a certain point and play it on an another PS3 without starting from the beginning? Will having units from different region be a problem? So far, I can't seem to copy my gamesaves from a JP unit to continue playing on a SG unit. Any advice? Thanks.
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Maybe backup utility. But it will backup everything and when you restore to different PS3 than the data on that PS3 will be removed. OK, not a good choice. Plus game saves are unique to each ID, you must have same ID for the other PS3 too.

Not sure about region, should be OK I think.

Or you can just take your HDD to the other PS3 and swap.

Anyone got idea?
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QUOTE(acougan @ Dec 10 2007, 05:50 PM)
i've copied paste the PSN sharing method fr neogaf in  the 1st post.

a note of warning: becareful when sharing ur PSN account especially when CC details are involved. always keep the secret question/secret answer to yourself to protect your identity.
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Yeah. The only thing I hesitates that the shared PS3 must keep my ID. I know I will change the password, but still, still feel uneasy. sweat.gif

But come to think about, I still willing to do it, if the other person is willing to share his purchased games too. whistling.gif
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Here's a little tutorial on how to download demo games through your PC, and install them into PS3.

Game links also included.

This method, you need to sacrifice your F@H. But this is the easier than the Store method.

Here's how you do it:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Enjoy!


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QUOTE(-milo- @ Dec 12 2007, 12:02 AM)
i've read somewhere that game saves could not be copied to a new hdd? if so  if me plan to buy 40g to upgrade it to 160g,the best time to upgrade it would be when i 1st get my hands on the console?
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OK, didn't see your post. I have upgraded mine to 160GB HDD. All my game saves are backup perfectly. In fact, everything. Purcased games, demo games, pictures, video, songs, etc.

Except your IDs and system settings, those are saved internally on some BIOS like memory on the console itself.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 12 2007, 09:14 AM)
aiman, i think he says gamesave ler...
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I wasn't responding to that post, just generally posting for FAQ.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Dec 12 2007, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(slickz @ Dec 12 2007, 03:03 PM)
awesome. that was fast!

We can rename our downloaded packages rite? All the program needs is just a .pkg file to replace the F@H file?
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Told ya. Now you need to upgrade your HDD to all those demos! icon_idea.gif

Yes, you can put any name. nod.gif

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