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BeastX
post Jan 19 2009, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 19 2009, 04:38 AM)
Hi BeastX,
  Can we call custom malaysia and give them the detail to check out from them how much taxes and charges we need to pay before sending the car back? Cos based on my computation (also depending on the FOB Value at custom's price lists) and if their price lists is anything about RM50k i will be looking at around RM20-30k to bring back my honda jazz which is 6yrs old (also if it's not negotiable la). SO i just wanna get a quote from them first see can afford or not and then later stage when arrive, try to negotiate somemore. Hope you know what i mean. If yes, i will try call the custom malaysia up or if you have a specified number to call

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Cannot help you there, but you can try contacting them by phone on number listed on the website (Or friends/family can personally go to the Custom office). As Jazz is also sold by Honda Malaysia it should be quite straight forward.
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post Jan 19 2009, 05:28 PM

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I called up the custom today at 03-8882 2346 and told me i need to pay effective tax rate of 150.25%. Didn't tell me exact figure and at what cost price. Not really helpful. She told me to submit my invoice? What invoice? I also don't know. I actually asked my father to call since i'm overseas. He also don't know much. SO complicated. Sigh...


Added on January 19, 2009, 6:00 pmHi All,
This is one of the runner from a company which quote me for bringing my honda jazz back

1. Custom Docket Price ( Yen 1,350,000 ) Rm 52,000.00
2. Custom Import Duty ( 30% ) Rm 15,600.00
3. Custom Exsais ( 60% ) Rm 40,560.00
4. Custom Sales Tax ( 10% ) Rm 10,816.00
5. Total Duty Rm 66,976.00

This is not including our local handling and local agency charges.

If you need more info please do not hesitate to contact us.

That is so expensive. How come he charges so expensive?

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post Jan 19 2009, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 19 2009, 05:28 PM)
I called up the custom today at 03-8882 2346 and told me i need to pay effective tax rate of 150.25%. Didn't tell me exact figure and at what cost price. Not really helpful. She told me to submit my invoice? What invoice? I also don't know. I actually asked my father to call since i'm overseas. He also don't know much. SO complicated. Sigh...

Added on January 19, 2009, 6:00 pmHi All,
  This is one of the runner from a company which quote me for bringing my honda jazz back
1.    Custom Docket Price ( Yen  1,350,000 )    Rm 52,000.00   
2.    Custom Import Duty  ( 30% )                     Rm 15,600.00
3.    Custom Exsais ( 60% )                             Rm 40,560.00
4.    Custom Sales Tax ( 10% )                         Rm 10,816.00
5.    Total Duty                                               Rm  66,976.00
This is not including our local handling and local agency charges.
If you need more info please do not hesitate to contact us.
That is so expensive. How come he charges so expensive?
Wow... Jazz is a "cheap" car... in Yen (before Yen appreciated). It is really not a good time to bring in Jap. made car, with the current currency situation (as bad as the 97 eco. crisis)

See my estimate was about right on the Docket price. Anyway the runner calculation did not include the depreciation of FOB value

Let's see... If the rate excise (by the runner) is correct at 60% (and not 75%) the effective tax would be 128.8% (RM66.976k) and not 150.25% (see the large increase in discrepancy when excise duty includes import duty).

Runners may charge you a fee of up to RM2k for their service which includes applying to MITI, JPJ, Puspakom and such. You don't have to pay a cent, if you have time and do the procedures yourself (As I did). You only need RM2(I think) for the JK69 form, and fee for registration and testing (which would not be included in the runner's service) and about a day's time.

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post Jan 20 2009, 03:52 AM

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Yeah...

I think he also did not deduct 15% off from the FOC price. I think he deduct the 15% from the 75%. that's why he got 60%. Also got another quote from a shipping company charging me AUD4,400 for shipping including 1 hour loading time. IF more than 1 hours charge AUD100 per hour. Even more expensive than my first quote.

Third. I try to get a quote from alliedpickford.com.my she said not advise me to bring back my car from overseas and gave me an attachment saying can't bring back car > 5yrs so i told her it's common with ppl with AP permit. SHe said she will check out the AP permit things and get back to me. She will need someone to come to my house to measure my car waa...


Added on January 20, 2009, 4:03 amHi BeastX,
I believe you have shipped your car from overseas to Malaysia last year before right? Can you tell me what is the process you did? Like once you get your AP permit, what you do next?

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 20 2009, 03:52 AM)
Third. I try to get a quote from alliedpickford.com.my she said not advise me to bring back my car from overseas and gave me an attachment saying can't bring back car > 5yrs so i told her it's common with ppl with AP permit. SHe said she will check out the AP permit things and get back to me. She will need someone to come to my house to measure my car waa...
  I believe you have shipped your car from overseas to Malaysia last year before right? Can you tell me what is the process you did? Like once you get your AP permit, what you do next?
Why is there a need for measurements, go to Honda.com.my and all the measurement are there. Private ownership (non commercial) you can bring in a car as old as you want.

Ok... my process
1. Get necessary documents needed by MITI as listed on their site. Make sure you copy down the chassis and engine No.
2. Send car by container, made sure you have ample of time to return to Malaysia and settle the AP application. You may ask the shipping company to hold on for a better/suitable date to ship you container.
3. Send-in your application when you arrive in Malaysia while you container maybe in transit in the ocean/seas. By right it should only take 1 week to process your application, but mine took about 3 weeks.
4. You should have a "bill of Landings" (from the shipping company), List of things, and your AP.... hand it over to a forwarder company which you hire, which handles the port landings/custom/handling/trailer truck and such. They will inform you the tax needed to be paid, as calculated by the custom office, with this document head to the custom office to appeal for a further reduction, uses your best excuses (currency appreciation/student and such), you should get some further discount. Settle the tax/duty your container will be released. All other things other than the car should be tax free.... so import as many Aussie stuff as the container can handle, big stuff may need 3/6 months of prove of purchase.
5. The forwarder should return your AP when you collect your car/stuff, you will need a temporary plate (to legally) drive you car to Puspakom. Go to JPJ/Puspakom to get your vehicle registered with the necessary with documentation (including the AP). The AP will be collected/returned to JPJ when you register you vehicle. Pay insurance, road tax and get the car plate done and you can drive the car within the day (as I did).

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post Jan 20 2009, 11:40 AM

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Thanks BeastX,
Can i know which forwarder that you use to handle your issue in Port Klang? How much he charge you? Maybe i can use him/her as well? Hehe...
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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jan 20 2009, 11:40 AM)
Thanks BeastX,
  Can i know which forwarder that you use to handle your issue in Port Klang? How much he charge you? Maybe i can use him/her as well? Hehe...
My 40ft container's final destination is in KK, North Borneo with the forwarder based there.... They charged me about RM1k ++. Maybe friends/family/forumers with Port Kelang experience/contact can help you...
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post Jan 20 2009, 04:02 PM

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Hey, BeastX,
Are you from KK? I'm from KK too. LEts hope we are not from the same school.. MAybe we actually know each other le.. haahah


Added on January 23, 2009, 4:46 amHere is the updated tax depreciation schedule and tax rate as at January 2009

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post Jan 23 2009, 06:10 PM

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I live in Thailand and have a vintage car I would like to bring over, but the import tax to Thailand is 300% based on whatever they think the car is worth.

It looks like bringing it to Malaysia, and then getting a visa for it at the Thai Malay border may be an option for me - the car "visa" lasts upto 6 months and I dont have to take the car out of Thailand to get it renewed.

I was wondering if its plausible to get a Malay citizen, agency or company to import it for me? Theres a lot of posts on this thread - sorry if I missed something and my question doesnt make sense.

The car is a 1979 Chevvy Corvette (30 years old), its 350ci (5.7 litres) its in "as new" condition. I dont know if I can find the original purchase price - but it would be quite low, like $5,000USD or something silly like that. Current value in Australia is about $30k USD. Would it really be depreciated at 30 years do you think? If depreciation applies then the tax should be faily low - I tried to follw the posts, but got a bit confused about whether all the tax is reduced or just part of it, so I cant figure out what the expected tax should be

In Thailand they dont let you know how they estimate the cars value - its totally unknown until the inspectors see it - so theres no way I would import to Thailand directly.

Any feedback would be very appreciated.
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post Jan 24 2009, 01:28 AM

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Hi,

I am thinking of bringing back a 2007 X5 3.0 from Canada to Malaysia. I am currently in Canada and will be going back to Malaysia next year. Do I need to complete the JK69 form now and get it endorsed at MITI (which will become a personal AP) before coming back to Malaysia? or all these can be done once I am back in Malaysia, but the car would have already been on its way to Port Klang?

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QUOTE(zemmhassim @ Jan 24 2009, 01:28 AM)
Hi,
I am thinking of bringing back a 2007 X5 3.0 from Canada to Malaysia. I am currently in Canada and will be going back to Malaysia next year. Do I need to complete the JK69 form now and get it endorsed at MITI (which will become a personal AP) before coming back to Malaysia? or all these can be done once I am back in Malaysia, but the car would have already been on its way to Port Klang?
Thanks.
Sure, the process should take a week, you can apply while it is in transit, the sooner the better, be fore-warned the tax is 221.75% x 3 years depreciation (unless the change the tax rate before/at 2010). ... but I bet your X5 being a left hand drive will be inconvenient in Malaysia.

221.75%.... almost(more) like you pay the price of 3 cars for 1.

If you have a spouse working in canada (proof of employment), you can get another car imported.


Added on January 24, 2009, 12:31 pm
QUOTE(Amagnon @ Jan 23 2009, 06:10 PM)
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I was wondering if its plausible to get a Malay citizen, agency or company to import it for me?  Theres a lot of posts on this thread - sorry if I missed something and my question doesnt make sense.
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One thing to point out, the car brought in through personal AP needs to be under the AP applicant's name for 2 years before any transfer is allowed..

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Added on January 24, 2009, 12:31 pm
One thing to point out, the car brought in through personal AP needs to be under the AP applicant's name for 2 years before any transfer is allowed..
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Thanks for the respsonse, I am running out of options - I love my car, and dont want to sell it, but it seems like getting it here is going to be extremely expensive and difficult ><
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QUOTE(Amagnon @ Jan 25 2009, 06:54 PM)
Thanks for the respsonse, I am running out of options - I love my car, and dont want to sell it, but it seems like getting it here is going to be extremely expensive and difficult ><
A 30 years old car have very little tax on it in Malaysia.... depreciation over 30 years... is about only 2.4% or the original cost (brand new in 1979) left for FOB value. Rough calculation... as US 5k is much higher in 1979 than now... The tax in Malaysia should be only about US300...

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jan 18 2009, 08:18 AM)
I should have been more specific... use my calculations on post 66 on page 4..
There is no made in Japan (25% cut, but a 15% "keuntungan peralihan" cut)
The last part on Effective tax can be disputed, it is either 115.5% or 150.25%(as stated)

If your FOB value is RM 50k (estimate), after 6 years it will be RM15k, RM13.5k (if after 72 months they give you 10% depreciation.

CIF value = RM13.5k + RM1.2k + RM202.5 = RM14.9k

Effective maximum tax (if it is 115.5%) = RM 17.2k, (if it is 150.25%) =  RM22.39k...

You can appeal for further cuts... 30 to 40% more (of the effective tax) if you are lucky..

This also highly depends on the exchange rate. It would be much better if it is calculated based on AUD than Yen. The difference could be as much as 30% (Yen gain against AUD since Sep 08)
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How do you get the FOB value for Jazz rm50k , market price is rm85k ?
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QUOTE(emanresu @ Jan 26 2009, 02:56 PM)
How do you get the FOB value for Jazz rm50k , market price is rm85k ?
Bro...Langkawi is only RM65k...In Japan, before the appreciation of yen, it is only RM40k (with Honda still making profit)... FOB value is always lower than the retail value in Langkawi by around 15% to 20%....
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Seriously...

now i dunt know how to calculate it cause after reading all of those comment,i'm so confuse wif it *sigh*

need help then wif the calculation..

ok,here we go the example n hope that u guys can help me..

lets say i live at australia,WA for 3 years , and bought a car for at least 2 years old already..
can u calculate for me ? owh owh, and can any1 calculate if i bought the car for at least 3 years ?

the car is 2nd hand and it cost like AUSD 19000 = RM 45000

its a 1996 japanese car , 4 cylinder Petrol Turbo 2.0L (1998cc)

hope that thats help,if not,pls do let me know watelse i need to give the detail. thankx
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QUOTE(FOX_HOUND @ Jan 26 2009, 07:42 PM)
Seriously...

now i dunt know how to calculate it cause after reading all of those comment,i'm so confuse wif it *sigh*

need help then wif the calculation..

ok,here we go the example n hope that u guys can help me..

lets say i live at australia,WA for 3 years , and bought a car for at least 2 years old already..
can u calculate for me ? owh owh, and can any1 calculate if i bought the car for at least 3 years ?

the car is 2nd hand and it cost like AUSD 19000 = RM 45000

its a 1996 japanese car , 4 cylinder Petrol Turbo 2.0L (1998cc)

hope that thats help,if not,pls do let me know watelse i need to give the detail. thankx
13 years depreciation is comes to roughly 12.91% of the car value left. Lets say the car value is RM65k* in 1996... in 2009, it depreciated to 8.4k (FOB), CIF is roughly RM 9.7k, effective tax is 150.25% ..... so your tax should be at RM14.57k

*The big if on the car value (a Subaru WRX or Evo??)...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jan 26 2009, 10:58 PM)
13 years depreciation is comes to roughly 12.91% of the car value left. Lets say the car value is RM65k* in 1996... in 2009, it depreciated to 8.4k (FOB), CIF is roughly RM 9.7k, effective tax is 150.25% ..... so your tax should be at RM14.57k

*The big if on the car value (a Subaru WRX or Evo??)...
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cooolll..plus cargo n everything..think that still within budget :-P n cheaper than buying 2nd here..hehehe..
well..wanted to get impreza sti but couldnt effort 2 buy so, evo is my only option left.like the old evo but dislike the new new evo n vice versa for the impreza :-)

but wat ever it is,thankx for your help,glad that u could help me wif the calculation :-)
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Can please check and see whether my calc is correct or not.

Audi TT 1.8l 12 months rm150k EU

-15% = 127k
-25% = 95k
CIF max 100k

100k x 157.4% = 157k total tax??

That's almost like buying a new TT in msia, or did i do something wrong there? Can get cheaper or not? If not then I'll buy it in msia only lol.

Off topic : Is it possible to change from left hand drive to right hand drive? if yes around how much would it cost?

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C I B A I... kastam!!!

With all those paramount value, the revenue made them pay for the `submarine`...`iskandar`...`renovation on theirs' house`...fk it.

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