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post Feb 4 2026, 06:44 PM, updated 2 months ago

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Anonymous Submission: I Really Regret Buying an EV

When I first bought it, I was the most excited person in the family.

Eco-friendly. Premium. Save on petrol. Future trend. No servicing needed. Government tax exemptions, and so on.
The salesman made it sound like if you didn't buy one, you were being left behind by the times.

In a moment of heat, I signed immediately. Cash buy.

I got the car in about 10 days. The delivery ceremony was great, too.

For the first few months, I truly felt I was very smart.
Not having to visit petrol stations felt amazing. Everyone was envious.

The electricity bill didn't seem expensive either.
Until reality slowly kicked in.

1. Range anxiety is not what you imagine

Every time the battery hits 30%, my mood changes.
Go to the mall to charge—full.

The App shows a vacancy—it's broken when you arrive.

Someone finishes charging but doesn't leave, hogging the spot.
Each charging session takes 1-2 hours; a total waste of time.

You stop wandering off on long distances spontaneously.
You start calculating if there's enough power to get home.

2. For those living in condos, it’s truly painful
I live in a condo.
The management hasn't installed chargers yet.
I can only charge outside.
And the electricity rates outside aren't cheap at all.
It's about the same as petrol. Especially now when it’s only RM1.99.
Sometimes I have to drive out specifically at midnight just to charge.
You start to miss the past: 5 minutes at a petrol station and you were done.

3. Depreciation is scarier than you think
I went to check the resale value.
The dealer said bluntly:
"EVs are hard to trade in; we only dare to take it at half price."

That was the moment I woke up:
This isn't saving money; this is locking your money dead inside a car.
Half price for a one-year-old car? I was speechless.

4. Problems? Wait for parts
I had a minor issue once.
Waiting for parts made me question my life.
It wasn't a matter of a day or two.
It was weeks.

Then you realize: this isn't a Myvi where you can get it fixed anywhere. The service center just tells you to wait...

5. New models keep coming out, making old ones obsolete
Every few months, there's a new model.
Longer range, faster charging, more features, better looks.
People always prefer the new over the old.
Your car instantly becomes "old tech."
You feel like it's being looked down upon everywhere.
Like those old "fish tank" CRT TVs from back in the day.

6. You stop daring to travel freely
In the past, I'd just "go" whenever I wanted.
Now, I first check: where is the charger?
Especially for outstation trips.

EVs aren't bad.
They just aren't suitable for everyone.

Especially if you:

    []Live in a condo or apartment
    []Travel long distances frequently for sales
    []Don't have a fixed charging spot
    []Care about the resale value of the car


Really, think it through.
I'm not telling you not to buy one.
I just hope you don't end up like me, regretting it only after buying.
Unless it's your second car / weekend car.
This isn't saving money.
This is just trading one problem for another

Ps: I bought it in cash, so it’s not that I can’t afford the loss. Don’t talk to me about "big picture" or "vision." I just feel like a total idiot.





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post Feb 4 2026, 06:47 PM

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6. You stop daring to travel freely

EV fanbois said you just need to plan every single trip accordingly.

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post Feb 4 2026, 06:47 PM

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impulsive buying without thinking deeper

Stay condo sudah a major red flag, then concern about resale value is second red flag

Baik beli ICE car with budi 95
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:48 PM

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buy saga or bezza lor, if you want to save petrol.

some joker think live in condo mean its a merah.

but truthfully, this ain't an issue in Australia. My friend lived in a 15 yr old condo, yet it can cater to wallbox chargers.

Just msia here haven't truly embraced or have the right infrastructure.

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post Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM

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not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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Which is why i think from economic and cost saving perspective, ice car make more sense
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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All depend on your location
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:51 PM

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post Feb 4 2026, 06:51 PM

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he is right though.

in it's current form, EVs are most suitable as aunty sunday market cars. or for fetching kids to and from school.
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:53 PM

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since 1943 i have mentioned here i have range anxiety
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:53 PM

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stay condo midnight go out charge, takde kerja buat
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:47 PM)
EV fanbois said you just need to plan every single trip accordingly.
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Half price for a one-year-old car? I was speechless.


50% depreciation for 1 year old EV? scarier than fiction unless 2nd hand salesmen want to potong him

QUOTE(loserguy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:51 PM)
he is right though.

in it's current form, EVs are most suitable as aunty sunday market cars. or for fetching kids to and from school.
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no leh,. i see many landed house with EVs and own charger very happy using it as daily driver

This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Feb 4 2026, 06:54 PM
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:55 PM

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Ev fanbois are vegan. They cant stop telling u how great it is.
Rubbish la EV. I prefer my car getting serviced anywhere i want. Not at the mercy of SC
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:56 PM

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From no mental problems became having mental problems. Lol..

Duck says:

Anxiety disorders are a group of mental health conditions characterized by excessive fear, worry, and anxiety that can interfere with daily activities. Common types include generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder, and effective treatments are available, including therapy and medication.

Duck then suggested:

Alprazolam, commonly known by the brand name Xanax, is a medication used to treat anxiety disorders and panic disorders. It belongs to a class of drugs called benzodiazepines, which work by calming the brain and nervous system.

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post Feb 4 2026, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:54 PM)
50% depreciation for 1 year old EV? scarier than fiction unless 2nd hand salesmen want to potong him
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100% depreciation if you bought a Neta owai.
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:57 PM

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go pasar and fetch kids to kindie boleh la, charge at home, naiisee
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:50 PM)
All depend on your location
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same goes for ICE cars also bro.

if you go ulu places petrol cars also share same concern

rule of thumb is to always pump petrol/charge full as often as you can
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post Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Feb 4 2026, 06:55 PM)
Read a comment on reddit
Ev fanbois are vegan. They cant stop telling u how great it is.
Rubbish la EV. I prefer my car getting serviced anywhere i want. Not at the mercy of SC
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but but but...EV what is there to service?
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Feb 4 2026, 06:55 PM)
Read a comment on reddit
Ev fanbois are vegan. They cant stop telling u how great it is.
Rubbish la EV. I prefer my car getting serviced anywhere i want. Not at the mercy of SC
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Tesla bois: u need to service?
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I seriously think medical field should create a depression category for EV owners that suffer a lot of anxieties

Too much anxieties from owning EV is causing a lot of mental health issues


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It's like last time when petrol cars were introduced. Lack of petrol stations susah mau pump.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:54 PM)
no leh,. i see many landed house with EVs and own charger very happy using it as daily driver
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I mean it works best if you have a fixed schedule or are just using it around town. Where you do not need to think about your next charge.

It is not exactly just forget about everything, hop in and go on a long trip kind of car. You have to check if it is charged, plan where you are going to stop so that you can make it to the next stop etc.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM)
but but but...EV what is there to service?
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you only save on engine oil, spark plugs etc. Tyres, suspensions, air cond gas, belts and all the other parts are still there.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM)
but but but...EV what is there to service?
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Ala yg servis tu benda rosak la. Got such thing as ever lasting washing machine that never breaks?
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Feb 4 2026, 07:01 PM)
It's like last time when petrol cars were introduced. Lack of petrol stations susah mau pump.
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Anything new is always difficult and takes time, ppl get comfy using petrol so they think ev would be the same when it comes to infrastructure.


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QUOTE(loserguy @ Feb 4 2026, 07:02 PM)
I mean it works best if you have a fixed schedule or are just using it around town. Where you do not need to think about your next charge.

It is not exactly just forget about everything, hop in and go on a long trip kind of car. You have to check if it is charged, plan where you are going to stop so that you can make it to the next stop etc.
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I think it is useful for lao lang who drive within KV only. I havent driven further than klang in two years. owai. & genting also no problem with chargers.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:54 PM)
50% depreciation for 1 year old EV? scarier than fiction unless 2nd hand salesmen want to potong him

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atto3 under 3 years ago 150k , now carsome take 50k only

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Feb 4 2026, 07:09 PM)
atto3 under 3 years ago 150k , now carsome take 50k only
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Yes. Like that must also increase medication's dosage d..
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He hopes people dont end up like him. I hope more people end up like him. Lol
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 07:08 PM)
I think it is useful for lao lang who drive within KV only. I havent driven further than klang in two years. owai. & genting also no problem with chargers.
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See. That's the point. You checked if there were chargers in genting. There are very few. if no other, places in malaysia where you would need to check if there were petrol stations around.
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Yes. Like that must also increase medication's dosage d..
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no service required doesnt mean stuff wont break.
if dont have regional spare part warehouse, wait la long2 for part.

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Stay condo without charging facility

But buy ev
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I strike all the 6 points stated above with my KELISA!
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Buy a new saga, ev be weekend car. Problem solved
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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Unless you are going off road, into the jungle trail.
Why worry about petrol refill?
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QUOTE(supsupsui @ Feb 4 2026, 07:28 PM)
Buy a new saga, ev be weekend car. Problem solved
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Like that will face financial difficulty then night time cannot sleep, need to eat zolpidem every night d..
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Feb 4 2026, 07:31 PM)
Unless you are going off road, into the jungle trail.
Why worry about petrol refill?
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Go offroad can bring extra petrol in jerrycans. EV cannot bring spare battery.
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Just because u pay in cash does not necessarily mean u cannot afford to lose.

Anyway all these are known issues (good /bad)for EV. Why after buy then regret. Just enjoy the smooth ride je la.
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stick to BEZZA SAGA please

stop pancut self esteem
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Feb 4 2026, 07:37 PM)
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dam my neighbour exactly like u, one legacy and one Juniper parking side by side, summore same colour in Diamond Black

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His problem is living in condo

For now practical way of owning an EV is when u charge at home
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Feb 4 2026, 06:55 PM)
Read a comment on reddit
Ev fanbois are vegan. They cant stop telling u how great it is.
Rubbish la EV. I prefer my car getting serviced anywhere i want. Not at the mercy of SC
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Which new ICE car with warranty doesnt need to service at SC? Please let me know.
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That's why people keep saying buying EV is a scam. Especially in Malaysia where petrol is still cheap.

Buying EV now is for early adopters. EV technology improves by leaps and bounds in just a few months.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Feb 4 2026, 07:41 PM)
Just because u pay in cash does not necessarily mean u cannot afford to lose.

Anyway all these are known issues (good /bad)for EV. Why after buy then regret. Just enjoy the smooth ride je la.
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He rich but kiamsiap wait until midnight to charge
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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petrol station is everywhere.

angkat, tolak, masuk, picit has been unbeatable for many years.

The only thing that came close to replicating this formula was Hydrogen vehicles but this never transformed into mass market due to the expensive nature of producing hydrogen and logistics.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Feb 4 2026, 07:37 PM)
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Tesla Model Y and a Xiaomi SU7

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EV is definitely not for everybody for now, but for most people, it's a no-brainer.

The arguments against it are getting thinner.
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Inb4 why buy EV when it at rm1.99/liter
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Feb 4 2026, 07:42 PM)
stick to BEZZA SAGA please

stop pancut self esteem
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QUOTE(skycool @ Feb 4 2026, 07:52 PM)
That's why people keep saying buying EV is a scam. Especially in Malaysia where petrol is still cheap.

Buying EV now is for early adopters. EV technology improves by leaps and bounds in just a few months.
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Zeekr in Chynaaa also no value 1


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i stop at "i live in condo"..that is pretty stupid move by ev owner
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Feb 4 2026, 06:48 PM)
buy saga or bezza lor, if you want to save petrol.

some joker think live in condo mean its a merah.

but truthfully, this ain't an issue in Australia. My friend lived in a 15 yr old condo, yet it can cater to wallbox chargers.

Just msia here haven't truly embraced or have the right infrastructure.
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If you can’t differentiate the difference between Australia and Malaysia, the fault is on you too lol
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QUOTE(mrhulk @ Feb 4 2026, 08:11 PM)
i stop at "i live in condo"..that is pretty stupid move by ev owner
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my condo dont have independent charger but has more than 20 Teslas
not included the rest brand
the rich must be stupid kan

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Lol, anyone with half intelligence of a human would be able to foresee all this la. It does not requires critical thinking, just basic common sense. Those concerns are well known concerns of ev.

If you are being clouded by FOMO or to feel proud by owning an ev, all this will die down within few months.
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“The electricity bill didn't seem expensive either.”

“ I live in a condo.
The management hasn't installed chargers yet.
I can only charge outside.
And the electricity rates outside aren't cheap at all.”

Apa ranjiao kejap cheap bill kejap charge outside

inb4 tipu lettew
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QUOTE(BobThe Builder @ Feb 4 2026, 08:23 PM)
“The electricity bill didn't seem expensive either.”

“ I live in a condo.
The management hasn't installed chargers yet.
I can only charge outside.
And the electricity rates outside aren't cheap at all.”

Apa ranjiao kejap cheap bill kejap charge outside

inb4 tipu lettew
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Full tank only RM30
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i thought of ev to join the cool gang.

but why use ev in hot countries when the battery depreciates 30% faster so i got analog NA engine 1.5 cruising 80km on highway. life is good no rush, only runs 100km per week, max 2 full tanks per month. budi donasi back to gov.

now i think back, maybe a hybrid is better.
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Pandai pandai lah hang nak hidup.

Sendiri dah dewasa ada otak boleh fikir.

You are the one that willing to purchase the car, then you have to face all the disadvantages of using EV car.


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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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My car can goes up to 880kmh for long distance and I fill at petronas. never ever, I planning where to fill as petronas is everywhere. that is the heaven of ice. what I hate about ice is need to change engine oil every 10k km while for ev busuk busuk 20k km only service.

never ever got range anxiety.

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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Even if you sesat somewhere, there is bound to be a petrol station around. Even if there isn't, someone could share their tank with you with a hose. With EV you are just stuck. And you Re going to pay a lot for a mobile fast charging service.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 4 2026, 08:21 PM)
Lol, anyone with half intelligence of a human would be able to foresee all this la. It does not requires critical thinking, just basic common sense. Those concerns are well known concerns of ev.

If you are being clouded by FOMO or to feel proud by owning an ev, all this will die down within few months.
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Bold of you to assume some of the users have common sense in the first place... biggrin.gif

But yeah, if you're limited by funding, location, space or even mental power, one shouldn't dabble in a newfangled tech without sizable time, commitment and wealth to back it up. For the rest of the people not having such conveniences, just stick to ICE. You're doing it wrong if you're in just because of FOMO.

I would totally buy an EV if the frontier areas of malaysia have conveniences for charging one. But that won't be anytime soon. AI slop relevant image below:

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My bros laugh at me when i drove taycan out too.. call me their bitch car next to their real cars

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 4 2026, 06:47 PM)
EV fanbois said you just need to plan every single trip accordingly.
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Imagine that you are already have your road trip all carved out nicely of where to eat, sight seeing and shopping and then you need to reshuffle your plan because the charging point at the planned place is either full when you arrived or not functioning.... Lol

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It's like last time when petrol cars were introduced. Lack of petrol stations susah mau pump.
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Feb 4 2026, 06:48 PM)
buy saga or bezza lor, if you want to save petrol.

some joker think live in condo mean its a merah.

but truthfully, this ain't an issue in Australia. My friend lived in a 15 yr old condo, yet it can cater to wallbox chargers.

Just msia here haven't truly embraced or have the right infrastructure.
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It's just petrol price is too cheap over here. If subsidy removed for M40 and T20, you'll see condo having private parking chargers pop up here and there.
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TS obviously person that always make wrong decision & regret after all the time, he need to be more responsible as an adult change his behavior not blaming on salesman .
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QUOTE(Chrix @ Feb 4 2026, 10:12 PM)
Bodoh apa ni

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Live in condo known no charger then surprise pikachu difficult charge

These fake arse article to get readers & engagement is getting stupid af
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Well where i stay there people who buy EVs and there are no charging bays.
I know there is one BYD the owner only use like less than 4 times a month as i always see it parked in the same position in the parking lot.

So yeah, you would be surprised there are a lot of people who buy into the hype without doing any research first.
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QUOTE(xeNOS @ Feb 4 2026, 09:35 PM)
Imagine that you are already have your road trip all carved out nicely of where to eat, sight seeing and shopping and then you need to reshuffle your plan because the charging point at the planned place is either full when you arrived or not functioning.... Lol
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Spontaneity with ICE: Suddenly I thought wanna go this place, let's go!

Spontaneity with EV: Aiya charging point full/rosak, hopefully I can make it to another charger.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Feb 4 2026, 07:31 PM)
Unless you are going off road, into the jungle trail.
Why worry about petrol refill?
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Feb 4 2026, 07:57 PM)
petrol station is everywhere.

angkat, tolak, masuk, picit has been unbeatable for many years.

The only thing that came close to replicating this formula was Hydrogen vehicles but this never transformed into mass market due to the expensive nature of producing hydrogen and logistics.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Feb 4 2026, 08:52 PM)
Even if you sesat somewhere, there is bound to be a petrol station around. Even if there isn't, someone could share their tank with you with a hose. With EV you are just stuck. And you Re going to pay a lot for a mobile fast charging service.
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Feb 4 2026, 08:50 PM)
My car can goes up to 880kmh for long distance and I fill at petronas. never ever, I planning where to fill as petronas is everywhere. that is the heaven of ice. what I hate about ice is need to change engine oil every 10k km while for ev busuk busuk 20k km only service.

never ever got range anxiety.
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i dont disagree with you guys feedback, i dont have range anxiety too but thats cause i usually pump even when 50% left in tank. so assuming i did buy an EV, i would do the same as well which is charging every night + anytime i can

but all your comments are basically what im pointing out la. wherever petrol station are, EV chargers while in lesser numbers also exists unless you live in super ulu places. though by that time the folks there dont really care abt ICE vs EV cars debate, but just using what works for them best

but IMO EV right now in MY unless youre fully in KV region, cannot be your primary car since the charging infra are still short. the EVs itself however are fine right now but higher range is always better
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but but but...EV what is there to service?
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EV tyres deplete way much faster than ICE due to its weight and torque. If not mistaken 30% faster. About 1+ yr need to change. And note EV cara tyres are different, larger and way more expensive.

There are similar wear and tear items like suspension and brake, coolant, battery, cabling.

China brand still require to return annually to service.

I think nett nett should be the same price not cheaper.

Petrol and Electricity nett nett also shall offset.

So change to EV to save cost is not a wise choice.

EV is more expensive than ICE but with lower to no resale value.

So, buy for the like of different experience and tech = OK.

Buy cause wanna save money = NO
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the owner that feel great abt ev normally have at least 2 cars and the ev as the third fun car

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 4 2026, 11:43 PM)
EV tyres deplete way much faster than ICE due to its weight and torque. If not mistaken 30% faster. About 1+ yr need to change. And note EV cara tyres are different, larger and way more expensive.

There are similar wear and tear items like suspension and brake, coolant, battery, cabling.

China brand still require to return annually to service.

I think nett nett should be the same price not cheaper.

Petrol and Electricity nett nett also shall offset.

So change to EV to save cost is not a wise choice.

EV is more expensive than ICE but with lower to no resale value.

So, buy for the like of different experience and tech = OK.

Buy cause wanna save money = NO
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you mean even change tire cannot change at indepentdent workshop?

wait wtf cabling need to change/service? not in ICE gua...

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Feb 4 2026, 08:56 PM)
only buy when charging station same number with petrol station & can full charge < 5 min.
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Can charge at home, time is not a problem anymore.

Technically there are indeed more ev charging station than petrol station today.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM)
same goes for ICE cars also bro.

if you go ulu places petrol cars also share same concern

rule of thumb is to always pump petrol/charge full as often as you can
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If u go ulu places confirm no charger. I'm pretty sure no matter how outskirt surely there will be a petrol station, maybe brandless, but I feel if green color one maybe is Petronas, yellow is Shell and Red/Blue is Petron.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 4 2026, 11:43 PM)
EV tyres deplete way much faster than ICE due to its weight and torque. If not mistaken 30% faster. About 1+ yr need to change. And note EV cara tyres are different, larger and way more expensive.

There are similar wear and tear items like suspension and brake, coolant, battery, cabling.

China brand still require to return annually to service.

I think nett nett should be the same price not cheaper.

Petrol and Electricity nett nett also shall offset.

So change to EV to save cost is not a wise choice.

EV is more expensive than ICE but with lower to no resale value.

So, buy for the like of different experience and tech = OK.

Buy cause wanna save money = NO
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EVs are suppose to be cheaper due to excise duty exemption, which just over not long ago. Compare same level, and EV tends to have more promotion (aka cash rebate). So if buy cause wanna save money = YES, because for the same level car you are actually getting it way cheaper.
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many genius never include whats in the ev package to "save" money

a solar panel that cost 20-30k that optimize output for 10 years before required to change the panels, a charging dock at home that cost 5k+, replace ev battery at year 8-10 for 15k+
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 4 2026, 11:48 PM)
you mean even change tire cannot change at indepentdent workshop?

wait wtf cabling need to change/service? not in ICE gua...
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Can lah. Like Michelin Primacy range, there is e.Primacy.
Other parts better go back own workshop, dun wanna touch all the sensors…
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 4 2026, 11:52 PM)
Can charge at home, time is not a problem anymore.

Technically there are indeed more ev charging station than petrol station today.
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my bro in US got ev. but mom not allow him to charge at home. scared kaboom. so he always go outside charge. anyway US with standard 110v home voltage, take forever to charge too unless upgrade install charger
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 4 2026, 11:53 PM)
If u go ulu places confirm no charger. I'm pretty sure no matter how outskirt surely there will be a petrol station, maybe brandless, but I feel if green color one maybe is Petronas, yellow is Shell and Red/Blue is Petron.
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thats what i thought too at first, but from my experience (albeit anecdotal) there are a pretty significant amount in outskirts by 2025 already

for eg last time i drove to Lukut to visit my relatives, they already have quite a number of EV chargers available altho still countable by one/two hands

unless your level of ulu meant in middle of jungle, but that too suffers from no nearby petrol stations as well
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2026, 12:10 AM)
thats what i thought too at first, but from my experience (albeit anecdotal) there are a pretty significant amount in outskirts by 2025 already

for eg last time i drove to Lukut to visit my relatives, they already have quite a number of EV chargers available altho still countable by one/two hands

unless your level of ulu meant in middle of jungle, but that too suffers from no nearby petrol stations as well
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the real question...how common are 350kW + chargers?
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i see rant by stupid people, say buy ev than so hard need to charge, if you cant even afford to install a ac charger at home, then dont bother buy EV and bitch about your dumbass decision making
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 4 2026, 11:56 PM)
EVs are suppose to be cheaper due to excise duty exemption, which just over not long ago. Compare same level, and EV tends to have more promotion (aka cash rebate). So if buy cause wanna save money = YES, because for the same level car you are actually getting it way cheaper.
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Compare performance like torque yes… 0-100 in how many sec then true. But if that is the consideration …

Other than that EV offers more electronic stuffs and electronics stuffs run on diff grade of components which end users do not gauge like life span of screen, sensors, cameras, pc etc … but usually they “optimize” life span of all electronic parts and components to the warranty period. And those cant get recon from any workshop. So need to be careful - also reason second market not great.

I think Msia still in infancy stage, EV all new cars less than 10 yrs …

Maybe read reviews for China market, how is the repair looks like after so many years …


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QUOTE(Adiksado @ Feb 5 2026, 12:13 AM)
i see rant by stupid people, say buy ev than so hard need to charge, if you cant even afford to install a ac charger at home, then dont bother buy EV and bitch about your dumbass decision making
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Buy first think later is our culture … the person in article pay with cash so pretty loaded so is okay …just rant for fun
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2026, 12:10 AM)
thats what i thought too at first, but from my experience (albeit anecdotal) there are a pretty significant amount in outskirts by 2025 already

for eg last time i drove to Lukut to visit my relatives, they already have quite a number of EV chargers available altho still countable by one/two hands

unless your level of ulu meant in middle of jungle, but that too suffers from no nearby petrol stations as well
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My ulu definition is kampung area. I'm pretty sure there are many kampung area don't have even 1 charger, like maybe Serdang Kedah, or there is another palm tree plantation area deeper which I forgotten the name, there is none. But I can see at least 1 petrol station when I pass by this area, yes, you can argue you can drive further to another town to get the charger, but my point is small town/kampung I can see the petrol station, but I don't see the charger.


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the real question...how common are 350kW + chargers?
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i dont know really if they have any specific chargers, i dont own a EV car. i just see when i enter petrol stations if there are EV cars charging and most of them do have despite like 2 bays nia

QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 5 2026, 12:18 AM)
My ulu definition is kampung area. I'm pretty sure there are many kampung area don't have even 1 charger, like maybe Serdang Kedah, or there is another palm tree plantation area deeper which I forgotten the name, there is none. But I can see at least 1 petrol station when I pass by this area, yes, you can argue you can drive further to another town to get the charger, but my point is small town/kampung I can see the petrol station, but I don't see the charger.
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yeah understandable, there are still no super convenient chargers nearby but there are still some within driving distance. however we are still discounting that these folks had the chargers installed in their homes and we will have no way of finding out lol

i was in Tangkak recently and somehow i see the occassional EV cars zooming around despite not seeing any chargers in petrol stations. arguably they could be those fellas who also visiting kampung and brought those slow chargers to plug onto normal sockets
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 5 2026, 12:13 AM)
Compare performance like torque yes… 0-100 in how many sec then true. But if that is the consideration …

Other than that EV offers more electronic stuffs and electronics stuffs run on diff grade of components which end users do not gauge like life span of screen, sensors, cameras, pc etc … but usually they “optimize” life span of all electronic parts and components to the warranty period. And those cant get recon from any workshop. So need to be careful - also reason second market not great.

I think Msia still in infancy stage, EV all new cars less than 10 yrs …

Maybe read reviews for China market, how is the repair looks like after so many years …
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2026, 12:10 AM)
thats what i thought too at first, but from my experience (albeit anecdotal) there are a pretty significant amount in outskirts by 2025 already

for eg last time i drove to Lukut to visit my relatives, they already have quite a number of EV chargers available altho still countable by one/two hands

unless your level of ulu meant in middle of jungle, but that too suffers from no nearby petrol stations as well
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Places like Lukut and PD confirm ada DC charger

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 5 2026, 12:12 AM)
the real question...how common are 350kW + chargers?
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Actually u don't need 350kw charges, most of the EV cars has maximum cap on DC charging. I would say 100-120kw is sufficient

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like then buy
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what to debate pulak





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EV car price is higher than ICE

So it is suitable for:
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Before you buy any car, is not about how you learn to adapt the car, but is the car able to adapt to your lifestyle.

If you are someone that love freedom, do thing adhoc, dont want to follow a certain level of discipline, DONT GET EV car.

Only get EV Car, if you can be discipline, if you have extra one car, if you dont bother about the value.

If you love to change your car every 2-3 years, this might not be the best option for you, unless money is not a concern.

Infact all car will cause you massive loss, just EV worst. This is not new. Since hybrid car during Prius era, all hybrid car dont have much value either.

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5 years later, time to change.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Feb 5 2026, 12:56 AM)
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lebih one lah u guys compare here and there

like then buy
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ketatrd 20k celery should buy
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 4 2026, 11:43 PM)
EV tyres deplete way much faster than ICE due to its weight and torque. If not mistaken 30% faster. About 1+ yr need to change. And note EV cara tyres are different, larger and way more expensive.

There are similar wear and tear items like suspension and brake, coolant, battery, cabling.

China brand still require to return annually to service.

I think nett nett should be the same price not cheaper.

Petrol and Electricity nett nett also shall offset.

So change to EV to save cost is not a wise choice.

EV is more expensive than ICE but with lower to no resale value.

So, buy for the like of different experience and tech = OK.

Buy cause wanna save money = NO
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EV is cheaper to own and run if you buy the cheaper models and travel at least 10-20k annually. When you start to compare those above 150k then difference probably not much liao. You get those stupid things like frameless door window, motorized door, auto park (useful for women). Also EV tyres are a scam. Just fit normal tyres and you're good to go.

Personally I wouldn't pay for those extra that I don't need. If they included the suspension that ride better than RR, then I'll pay the extra because it's something different.
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No need. What can be done is buy two. Everytime you go travel you drive one n tarik one. Batery habis tukar kete. The batery long one turn kena tarik
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Too much anxieties from owning EV is causing a lot of mental health issues
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Having a charger port at home solve 90% of his issue. Lol
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EV is cheaper to own and run if you buy the cheaper models and travel at least 10-20k annually. When you start to compare those above 150k then difference probably not much liao. You get those stupid things like frameless door window, motorized door, auto park (useful for women). Also EV tyres are a scam. Just fit normal tyres and you're good to go.

Personally I wouldn't pay for those extra that I don't need. If they included the suspension that ride better than RR, then I'll pay the extra because it's something different.
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EV selling point also the tech and different experiences… less mundane as compared to typical ICE.

Petrol in MY still affordable, buying low cost EV defeats the purpose.

Normal tyres can work but not optimal perhaps may die faster and reduce mileage.

Car owners now are at crossroad like last time people laughing at smartphone without keypad and need to charge everyday as compared to Nokia can last few days and with keypad …I was once such person … but then once use smartphone never go back …

Just need to wait for ecosystem to mature, most car owners usually look at long term TCO and second hand values instead of YOLO. So need some time …
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It's just the story owner aren't rich enough.

That's y so much got problems.

It's like 1k+ phone is suitable for u but u die die go buy 10k phone & rant online.
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Already adviced don't follow the trend to buy EV.
Somemore apartment dweller without right to charge. Really asking for trouble.
Now got emas7 petrol version. Should have waited for that if want to feel EV.
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It is simple. If you only have 1 car which need to drive daily and cross states the EV not suit you. But if you have 2 cars (1 for yourself and another is under wife) then it is completely okay to have 1 ICE and another is EV provided that you can takes on the great depreciation.

Don't give excuse like even if you got 2 cars but when you drive EV suddenly need to drive long distance. In my past history and people as I know there were very very rare that we "suddenly" need to drive over 300km. And if this really happened I strongly believe it will be in non-peak hour (cross states during holiday is definitely not sudden) and there should be enough charger across the highway.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 5 2026, 07:20 AM)
EV selling point also the tech and different experiences… less mundane as compared to typical ICE.

Petrol in MY still affordable, buying low cost EV defeats the purpose.

Normal tyres can work but not optimal perhaps may die faster and reduce mileage.

Car owners now are at crossroad like last time people laughing at smartphone without keypad and need to charge everyday as compared to Nokia can last few days and with keypad …I was once such person … but then once use smartphone never go back …

Just need to wait for ecosystem to mature, most car owners usually look at long term TCO and second hand values instead of YOLO. So need some time …
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U answer it urself, u are late to the hype train and hop on it when it's normalised, which also means more stable, sustainable version product, thats when i will buy an EV once the charging has less issue, more docks, more stable battery or even a new battery that dun make u anxiety about mileage and kaboom.

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always said that ev is rich man car with a few cars on standby... if you using ev as your main and only option then goodluck to you.
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I see buying EV is like buying S class or 7 series or supercar. You don't care about the resale value or availability or convenience. You buy the car because you want the car, period.

This is like a decade or more ago, people buy Audi then complain service center only at few states away, spare part scarcity, low resale value. All because following the hype.
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EV selling point also the tech and different experiences… less mundane as compared to typical ICE.

Petrol in MY still affordable, buying low cost EV defeats the purpose.

Normal tyres can work but not optimal perhaps may die faster and reduce mileage.

Car owners now are at crossroad like last time people laughing at smartphone without keypad and need to charge everyday as compared to Nokia can last few days and with keypad …I was once such person … but then once use smartphone never go back …

Just need to wait for ecosystem to mature, most car owners usually look at long term TCO and second hand values instead of YOLO. So need some time …
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Different experience? LoL... What difference can you get with these entry level EV? All of them are same. You just pay more for all the fancy stuffs you dont even need in the first place.

Charging is not a problem at all unless you dont have a personal charger. Not sure why you think charging is annoying.

No... TCO can be lower than ICE car and should be given how much less it cost to make one compared to ICE. It's basically a smartphone, motor and battery.

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I live in a condo.
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I can only charge outside.


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They are eco-friendly ? Looks good on paper but what happens when EV batteries are recycled ?
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I think the bigger problem with most people is mentality. So used to running their ICE car to empty blinking then only pump. Our country size is just about right for EV honestly given that you drive like 200-300km then you will stop. Top up a little if you needed then continue until you reach your destination which then you charge occasionally for few days until full for the return journey.

It also didn't help when a big portion of them are without their own charger or rely on granny charger.
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Relax. Acute panic attack won't happen and no increase of medication is needed unless the battery can't hold its charge. Full charge at night, next day morning 50% left. Lol..

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When young age stress yourself with all these nonsense..

Not even reach old age, you will queuing up to the psychologist..

Run nekid or performing kungfu in the middle of the road is your future.
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My ulu definition is kampung area. I'm pretty sure there are many kampung area don't have even 1 charger, like maybe Serdang Kedah, or there is another palm tree plantation area deeper which I forgotten the name, there is none. But I can see at least 1 petrol station when I pass by this area, yes, you can argue you can drive further to another town to get the charger, but my point is small town/kampung I can see the petrol station, but I don't see the charger.
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Not even reach old age, you will queuing up to the psychologist..

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I am actually HAPPY I did not buy an EV. Not a fan yet.
They are eco-friendly ? Looks good on paper but what happens when EV batteries are recycled ?
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Relax. Acute panic attack won't happen and no increase of medication is needed unless the battery can't hold its charge. Full charge at night, next day morning 50% left. Lol..
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EV buyers are not so smart pipel...better buy nissan e-power..It is generator engine not battery type
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I am actually HAPPY I did not buy an EV. Not a fan yet.
They are eco-friendly ? Looks good on paper but what happens when EV batteries are recycled ?
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what impact EV creates to the environment.
not only recycling of the batteries, but the destruction when mining raw materials to produce batteries.
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ev only for the rich la, to save money.

before ev, my daily travel phev rm 15 a day.

i travel 60km for work, and most of it in jam. phev will finish even before reach work, so coming back will be full petrol.

now with ev, same travel is only rm4 a day, if paying full price for home electricity.

but with solar, even with charging car 300kwh a month, i am still only paying less than 100 for electricity, for 1200 total usage
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what can you expect when the sole creation of ev is to locked people in the GRID.
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You shud see -- when the GOV start using EV -- then you follow lo  tongue.gif
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Imagine polis half way chasing bad guys suddenly no battery… 👀👀
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Feb 5 2026, 10:28 AM)
ev only for the rich la, to save money.

before ev, my daily travel phev rm 15 a day.

i travel 60km for work, and most of it in jam. phev will finish even before reach work, so coming back will be full petrol.

now with ev, same travel is only rm4 a day, if paying full price for home electricity.

but with solar, even with charging car 300kwh a month, i am still only paying less than 100 for electricity, for 1200 total usage
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u didnt factor in the solar panel cost and the charging dock ar, or those cost is invisible 😶
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u didnt factor in the solar panel cost and the charging dock ar, or those cost is invisible 😶
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ev charger free when got the car. install 2k.

solar rm500 a month. bill before solar and ev was rm1500 after introduction of 10% charge for excess kwh.

solar was also there before i got the ev, main factor for solar was to reduce tnb bill.

bill no change after ev came in
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daily dose of EV vs ICE vs solar panel vs maintenance vs emission vs etc whatever we can come out with

just use whatever you wan and move on, biar lah EV or ICE or bicycle biggrin.gif
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always said that ev is rich man car with a few cars on standby... if you using ev as your main and only option then goodluck to you.
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Funny la u guys

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unker drive tesla 4 years, taycan 2 years

no regrets

but unker stay landed with solar

so my experience is different than his
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Buy first think later is our culture … the person in article pay with cash so pretty loaded so is okay …just rant for fun
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doubtful buy cash if still living in condo , even high end condo got charger installation right at own parking bay
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Imagine polis half way chasing bad guys suddenly no battery… 👀👀
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More like tak berani tekan throttle too much..later batt kong faster..haha
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All of my friends who bought Tesla also say the same thing, hard to go back to normal ICE car laugh.gif
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Want sell also kenot cos no rv

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Imagine polis half way chasing bad guys suddenly no battery… 👀👀
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what can you expect when the sole creation of ev is to locked people in the GRID.
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More like ICE is locked into the Petrol system of distribution.


At least with EV, we can still be independent by charging with Solar during day time.

With Great Independence from the Petrol Pump, comes big responsibility to maintain own Solar inverter, solar panels.

Also if you do a calculation of all the Petrol transportation cost from ground to refinery to your local pump, how far have that Fuel travelled?


Electricity supplied via Ultra high voltage Cable lines, would have distinctive advantage especially for rural and or isolated plantation and highlands,.since fuel no longer needed to be transported to highlands, ....


With EV, can charge with Wind, Hydro, Coal, Solar, Nuklear, diesel or any other mode of electricity generation. Just go with the flow.




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We are probably the only ktards with 2 EVs.

What’s your other model?
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Dun have access to your own personal charger , dun buy. Simple rule.
Outside chargers are not dependable and rates not cheap.
Those who have personal chargers, have little regrets owning ev and are unlikely to move back to ice.
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Only even think of EV if

you have a charger at home and can charge with solar during the day. If saving money is the reason to go EV.

As a second vehicle
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The only way to save EV is to have 1000km battery with 5 minutes charging capability. Donut lab probably has made that battery realistic.
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The only way to save EV is to have 1000km battery with 5 minutes charging capability. Donut lab probably has made that battery realistic.
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i'm ok with 1000km battery but I worry on 5 minute charging.
the amount of energy going through in such a short time makes me feel very uneasy.
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what range anxiety? Dodge challenger hellcat can suck it's 71L tank dry in 11 minutes
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what range anxiety? Dodge challenger hellcat can suck it's 71L tank dry in 11 minutes
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Tats is call range limitation confirmation..
Which is good, because he can plan tat long only, wont go wrong unless he crash

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Tats is call range limitation confirmation..
Which is good, because he can plan tat long only, wont go wrong unless he crash
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Feb 5 2026, 09:29 PM)
The only way to save EV is to have 1000km battery with 5 minutes charging capability. Donut lab probably has made that battery realistic.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 5 2026, 08:33 PM)
More like ICE is locked into the Petrol system of distribution.
At least with EV, we can still be independent by charging with Solar during day time.

With Great Independence from the Petrol Pump, comes big responsibility to maintain own Solar inverter, solar panels.

Also if you do a calculation of all the Petrol transportation cost from ground to refinery to your local pump, how far have that Fuel travelled?
Electricity supplied via Ultra high voltage Cable lines, would have distinctive advantage especially for rural and or isolated plantation and highlands,.since fuel no longer needed to be transported to highlands, ....
With EV, can charge with Wind, Hydro, Coal, Solar, Nuklear, diesel or any other mode of electricity generation. Just go with the flow.
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In Malaysia, it is the other way around. You have many petrol companies. But electricity is monopolized by TNB. Or you can use outside chargers at a higher price.

So at best it is the same. TNB also has transmission and network charges.
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Solar + landed + ev = save money ,don't even need to pay anything ,every night full charge .
Travel outstation ,so many DC charger .key is You don't need to be fully charge it .Charge for 10mins is enough until the next charge station. Isn't it the same as u pump petrol ? Everytime I only pump rm50 , that is enough for say 250km . Go toilet , go by buy drinks n jajan . About 10mins . Only those who don't understand will fully charge n complain wait 1 hrs , of cos need to wait that long cos 80% about charging speed will drop significantly
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All this so call anxiety = poor planning

None of these issues seems to have affect the adopters of ev users


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What’s your other model?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM)
same goes for ICE cars also bro.

if you go ulu places petrol cars also share same concern

rule of thumb is to always pump petrol/charge full as often as you can
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definition of ulu places between petrol and ev car is totally different
petrol car run out of fuel in ulu place, rescue come with petrol in bottle settle
ev? good luck

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definition of ulu places between petrol and ev car is totally different
petrol car run out of fuel in ulu place, rescue come with petrol in bottle settle
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youre missing the point, you at first place still need to plan logistics at beginning as well so you dont ended up in this situation sweat.gif

petrol is definitely easier to topup/refill but thats not my point. what im saying is if you know the place youre unsure got EV chargers/petrol station you NEED to plan ahead
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Only if u continously WOT to unleash that 707HP
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Aircraft piston engines can at full power continuously but they have like half the HP/displacement efficiency of car.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 6 2026, 12:55 AM)
youre missing the point, you at first place still need to plan logistics at beginning as well so you dont ended up in this situation  sweat.gif

petrol is definitely easier to topup/refill but thats not my point. what im saying is if you know the place youre unsure got EV chargers/petrol station you NEED to plan ahead
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tell me bruh, where in peninsular that you need a logistic planning for petrol car ahead of driving?
petrol car driver plan while on the road. oh shit fuel nak habis, no worry reserve tank can cover at 20KM. conlanfirm will find petrol station to refuel

EV? enter major highway je la. try jalan kampung and see how much planning required?

so it can be same problem, but require different effort
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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 01:06 AM)
tell me bruh, where in peninsular that you need a logistic planning for petrol car ahead of driving?
petrol car driver plan while on the road. oh shit fuel nak habis, no worry reserve tank can cover at 20KM. conlanfirm will find petrol station to refuel

EV? enter major highway je la. try jalan kampung and see how much planning required?

so it can be same problem, but require different effort
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said alot truly like a person who tinggal dalam city too long ed. there are still a tonne of ulu places in peninsular that needs heavy petrol planning. thats why most of those folks will never buy EV and will continue to use ICE cars

EV chargers planning are more crucial given how limited its infra versus petrol nia. but that doesnt mean petrol cars dont need to

and again you are completely missing the point of my first post...
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I think its great, give it another year or 10 then become better.

Now stick to ice
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my office got a few free charging stations.

i often see outsiders come and sit down at the ground floor cafe drinking coffee for one hour just to charge the car before driving to their own office one hour later

maybe some ppl are ok with sitting down for one hour drinking coffee

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 6 2026, 02:10 AM)
my office got a few free charging stations.

i often see outsiders come and sit down at the ground floor cafe drinking coffee for one hour just to charge the car before driving to their own office one hour later

maybe some ppl are ok with sitting down for one hour drinking coffee
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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 12:44 AM)
definition of ulu places between petrol and ev car is totally different
petrol car run out of fuel in ulu place, rescue come with petrol in bottle settle
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The only way to save EV is to have 1000km battery with 5 minutes charging capability. Donut lab probably has made that battery realistic.
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LOL... why not 500KM with 2.5minutes charging then? or best 250km with 90seconds refill... lugging that amount of weight is not economical.
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Driven ICE and Hybrid in the past and now I'm driving EV since Apr 25 and mileage clocking at 32K KM already. EV is not for everyone, especially if you don't have access to home charging.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:59 PM)
same goes for ICE cars also bro.

if you go ulu places petrol cars also share same concern

rule of thumb is to always pump petrol/charge full as often as you can
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 6 2026, 02:10 AM)
my office got a few free charging stations.

i often see outsiders come and sit down at the ground floor cafe drinking coffee for one hour just to charge the car before driving to their own office one hour later

maybe some ppl are ok with sitting down for one hour drinking coffee
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 6 2026, 01:12 AM)
said alot truly like a person who tinggal dalam city too long ed. there are still a tonne of ulu places in peninsular that needs heavy petrol planning. thats why most of those folks will never buy EV and will continue to use ICE cars

EV chargers planning are more crucial given how limited its infra versus petrol nia. but that doesnt mean petrol cars dont need to

and again you are completely missing the point of my first post...
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No need to argue with them...they never see petrol ice car stranded by the road....
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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 12:44 AM)
definition of ulu places between petrol and ev car is totally different
petrol car run out of fuel in ulu place, rescue come with petrol in bottle settle
ev? good luck
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ada rumah or shophouse ada 3 pin plug, can pinjam cucuk and charge about 2kwh, 3 hrs ada 6kwh, cukup jalan to nearest town with DC charger

Kalau petrol no more, kena beli from nearest petrol station and transport to refuel. In future if lesser petrol station due to lesser demand, petrol station operator see no profit and tutup also possible.

U can say EV has this problem currently, but with more EV car on the road, the demand of DC/AC increasing, the supply will be increasing as well.


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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Feb 6 2026, 08:57 AM)
ICE petrol boleh tapaw in jerrycan, EV mau tapaw duracell, energizer and GP batteries ke?
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bruh, im not disputing that petrol cars have advantage in fast refill and convenience

but my point being if either ICE/EV users knew they gonna go to a place where logistics are questionable, they should do the preplanning accordingly

in ori post by the complainer it seems like they sendiri got prob go drive places until battery 30% then ganjeong2. sendiri cari pasal apa lagi

QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 6 2026, 09:50 AM)
No need to argue with them...they never see petrol ice car stranded by the road....
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yeah just one simple thing to do like charge/pump in advance also they kecoh... dont understand

its like you leave house with smartphone battery 20% left.. ofc its gonna die in between while you commute etc if you have nowhere to charge doh.gif
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if you stay in condo, dont buy ev la. it will be a huge hassle.
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I remember how people complain got anxiety when using smartphone can only last one day or even less and nokia phone can last for weeks.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 6 2026, 09:50 AM)
No need to argue with them...they never see petrol ice car stranded by the road....
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If petrol car stranded, can ask people help go tapau petrol in bottles. EV car stranded can ask people help go Mr DIY buy battery?
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If petrol car stranded, can ask people help go tapau petrol in bottles. EV car stranded can ask people help go Mr DIY buy battery?
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EV Car insurance got free towing to closest charger.


No point argue with anyone anyway. And if have to pay for towing...so be it... It is a user error.


If minta tolong olang bungkus petrol pun tip rm50 wut?

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 6 2026, 11:05 AM)
EV Car insurance got free towing to closest charger.
No point argue with anyone anyway. And if have to pay for towing...so be it... It is a user error.
If minta tolong olang bungkus petrol pun tip rm50 wut?
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Insurance only free towing up to XX km.

Give people RM50 tips to help tapau petrol probably cheaper than paying for towing.

Like I said in 1st page, EV fanbois always say need to plan every trip accordingly. It's true. Factual. That's what EV owners always say.
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if you stay in condo, dont buy ev la. it will be a huge hassle.
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Stupid people buy what also sure regret lar. All those things should have been considered before buying not after. Problem is not EV but bodoh buyer.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 10:21 AM)
ada rumah or shophouse ada 3 pin plug, can pinjam cucuk and charge about 2kwh, 3 hrs ada 6kwh, cukup jalan to nearest town with DC charger

Kalau petrol no more, kena beli from nearest petrol station and transport to refuel. In future if lesser petrol station due to lesser demand, petrol station operator see no profit and tutup also possible.

U can say EV has this problem currently, but with more EV car on the road, the demand of DC/AC increasing, the supply will be increasing as well.
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this. that time i may get my first ev car. with better tech and seamless transition.
meanwhile, those who get EV now, thanks for being the lab rat contributing to this evolution notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Feb 6 2026, 11:40 AM)
Stupid people buy what also sure regret lar. All those things should have been considered before buying not after. Problem is not EV but bodoh buyer.
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Coating also stupid to me but human still pay the premium price for it, is a human choice regret or not business is business no one force you to buy anything for you to regret later.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 6 2026, 10:40 AM)
bruh, im not disputing that petrol cars have advantage in fast refill and convenience

but my point being if either ICE/EV users knew they gonna go to a place where logistics are questionable, they should do the preplanning accordingly

in ori post by the complainer it seems like they sendiri got prob go drive places until battery 30% then ganjeong2. sendiri cari pasal apa lagi
yeah just one simple thing to do like charge/pump in advance also they kecoh... dont understand

its like you leave house with smartphone battery 20% left.. ofc its gonna die in between while you commute etc if you have nowhere to charge  doh.gif
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This guy probably never ride a bike before. Any long trip also you need to plan properly for fill stations. You ain't pushing a 200kg++ bike. I ran dry once but lucky just 1 km from petrol station.. Miscalculated my speed and consumption.

You drive an EV, due to limited infra now, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. It's on you if you gancheong

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 12:51 PM)
this. that time i may get my first ev car. with better tech and seamless transition.
meanwhile, those who get EV now, thanks for being the lab rat contributing to this evolution  notworthy.gif
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U should credit the China lab rat who did on Electric bus and EV car, they have started this decades ago and the one u see on the market is mature product, i still vividly remember first batch of Renault Zoe with 200km range.

What better tech u want? Range 1000km or battery swapping?
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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Feb 6 2026, 08:57 AM)
ICE petrol boleh tapaw in jerrycan, EV mau tapaw duracell, energizer and GP batteries ke?
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Ini mesti non-EV owner answer laugh.gif

Please google 3 pin plug EV charger and EV to EV charger, if battery drop below 20% speed cut and still tak mau go charge, conlanfirm is owner problem.


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM)
U should credit the China lab rat who did on Electric bus and EV car, they have started this decades ago and the one u see on the market is mature product, i still vividly remember first batch of Renault Zoe with 200km range.

What better tech u want? Range 1000km or battery swapping?
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80% charge range 500km imo is sufficient for our highway

good time to buy for me is when DC (only) charger visible almost everywhere to the point where i dont have to think or queue
most ideal if can just do 5-10 minute charging for next 200km-300km

now like chicken and egg, charger not many coz volume of EV users is still low
to increase more EV users, need more chargers

last deal breaker is electricity cost in future. with demand from industry, AI, etc etc. will the cost stay competitive as petrol?
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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 12:51 PM)
this. that time i may get my first ev car. with better tech and seamless transition.
meanwhile, those who get EV now, thanks for being the lab rat contributing to this evolution  notworthy.gif
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sadly history shows ppl like you will never really get with the curve
always paranoid and criticizing
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM)
This guy probably never ride a bike before. Any long trip also you need to plan properly for fill stations. You ain't pushing a 200kg++ bike. I ran dry once but lucky just 1 km from petrol station.. Miscalculated my speed and consumption.

You drive an EV, due to limited infra now, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. It's on you if you gancheong
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exactly, and read the maps in advance lol to find out where petrol stations are helps alot too

people who kept going on stuff like 'aiya still got enough petrol wan" are those fuks who never kena before the inconvenience of being stuck at side of road

those with EV needs to be way more conscious, if sendiri bodo2 dunno how adjust but go blame car fault when its clearly user problem
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM)
U should credit the China lab rat who did on Electric bus and EV car, they have started this decades ago and the one u see on the market is mature product, i still vividly remember first batch of Renault Zoe with 200km range.

What better tech u want? Range 1000km or battery swapping?
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1000km range also useless if you can't plan your journey. More headroom for mistakes but still. Battery swapping, even less possible infra. Now fast DC can get you 200-300km in an hour... It's not a big deal. Just have a break and coffee.

If a bmw electric scooter guy with 100km range can do a long road trip, no excuse 400-500km range a typical EV has, can't. Sure, it took him stupid time to do the trip but the point is, he can plan it well enough to make the trip and back.

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 01:20 PM)
80% charge range 500km imo is sufficient for our highway

good time to buy for me is when DC (only) charger visible almost everywhere to the point where i dont have to think or queue
most ideal if can just do 5-10 minute charging for next 200km-300km

now like chicken and egg, charger not many coz volume of EV users is still low
to increase more EV users, need more chargers

last deal breaker is electricity cost in future. with demand from industry, AI, etc etc. will the cost stay competitive as petrol?
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Model Y can fit your criteria nicely with 600km range WLTP (not NEDC bullshit), so tunggu apa lagi.

U sendiri pun tau the chicken and egg situation, basically place i go on Peninsula west coast area, within 30km can find one DC charger. For the year 2024-2025, i can see CPO aggresively install charger. Even TNB also install bunch of charger at rural area.

And your last question, u think petrol price won't go up in tandem with electricity cost, don't forget the price is determine by supply and demand, the lesser demand on petrol, the price of petrol will go up as well.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 02:29 PM)
Model Y can fit your criteria nicely with 600km range WLTP (not NEDC bullshit), so tunggu apa lagi.

U sendiri pun tau the chicken and egg situation, basically place i go on Peninsula west coast area, within 30km can find one DC charger. For the year 2024-2025, i can see CPO aggresively install charger. Even TNB also install bunch of charger at rural area.

And your last question, u think petrol price won't go up in tandem with electricity cost, don't forget the price is determine by supply and demand, the lesser demand on petrol, the price of petrol will go up as well.
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why would petrol prices go up when demand is low?
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:32 PM)
why would petrol prices go up when demand is low?
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google market Equilibrium on supply and demand and u will get the answer
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Market equilibrium occurs when the quantity of a good supplied matches the quantity demanded at a specific price, known as the equilibrium price. Graphically, this is the intersection of demand and supply curves, where market forces prevent price changes unless external factors, such as shifts in demand or supply, alter the balance.

Key Concepts of Market Equilibrium
Equilibrium Price (Market-Clearing Price): The price point where consumers' desires agree with producers' desires, and all goods produced are sold.
Equilibrium Quantity: The amount of goods sold at the equilibrium price.
Surplus (Excess Supply): Occurs when the price is above equilibrium, causing the quantity supplied to exceed quantity demanded. This drives prices down.
Shortage (Excess Demand): Occurs when the price is below equilibrium, causing the quantity demanded to exceed quantity supplied. This drives prices up.

Factors Affecting Equilibrium
Demand Shifts: Changes in income, preferences, or substitute prices can shift the demand curve, changing the equilibrium price and quantity.
Supply Shifts: Changes in production costs, technology, or regulations can shift the supply curve, resulting in new equilibrium points

demand low supply high would mean the bolded, correct?
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:40 PM)
AI Overview
Equilibrium, Surplus, and Shortage | Microeconomics
Market equilibrium occurs when the quantity of a good supplied matches the quantity demanded at a specific price, known as the equilibrium price. Graphically, this is the intersection of demand and supply curves, where market forces prevent price changes unless external factors, such as shifts in demand or supply, alter the balance.

Key Concepts of Market Equilibrium
Equilibrium Price (Market-Clearing Price): The price point where consumers' desires agree with producers' desires, and all goods produced are sold.
Equilibrium Quantity: The amount of goods sold at the equilibrium price.
Surplus (Excess Supply): Occurs when the price is above equilibrium, causing the quantity supplied to exceed quantity demanded. This drives prices down.
Shortage (Excess Demand): Occurs when the price is below equilibrium, causing the quantity demanded to exceed quantity supplied. This drives prices up.

Factors Affecting Equilibrium
Demand Shifts: Changes in income, preferences, or substitute prices can shift the demand curve, changing the equilibrium price and quantity.
Supply Shifts: Changes in production costs, technology, or regulations can shift the supply curve, resulting in new equilibrium points

demand low supply high would mean the bolded, correct?
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Read this chart

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lol okay? the only times that prices are high(er) is when demand is up. why not point to me in your chart what you mean when petrol demand is low the prices will go up?
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:50 PM)
lol okay? the only times that prices are high(er) is when demand is up. why not point to me in your chart what you mean when petrol demand is low the prices will go up?
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the oil industry has a list of supply chain which affect the price equilibrium, from oil extraction > refineries > petrol station

Don't forget the industry is running on a thin margin, even petrol station dealer also complain the the earning is eaten up by MDR charges, basically every industry chain in petroleum need profit to re-invest and operate. Don't forget transporation charges as well.


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 03:05 PM)
the oil industry has a list of supply chain which affect the price equilibrium, from oil extraction > refineries > petrol station

Don't forget the industry is running on a thin margin, even petrol station dealer also complain the the earning is eaten up by MDR charges, basically every industry chain in petroleum need profit to re-invest and operate. Don't forget transporation charges as well.
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also dont forget the demand as well. either the graph is wrong or you're wrong, pick one.

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QUOTE(DS51 @ Feb 4 2026, 08:50 PM)
My car can goes up to 880kmh for long distance and I fill at petronas. never ever, I planning where to fill as petronas is everywhere. that is the heaven of ice. what I hate about ice is need to change engine oil every 10k km while for ev busuk busuk 20k km only service.

never ever got range anxiety.
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My range is only 350-400km also never have any range anxiety.

Only anxiety is when suddenly the Low fuel light pop up and i have to look for the nearest Caltex.

Only brand loyalty anxiety...but if desperate, any station will do.
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During peak periods, even driving ICE V, I get range anxiety when travelling on nshw where traffic jams are unpredictable. Then there's the long queue at petrol stations. There was once when I had to detour just to refuel as the R&R was closed for upgrading.

I don't think I can ever have EV as my only car for the next 5 years.
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lol okay? the only times that prices are high(er) is when demand is up. why not point to me in your chart what you mean when petrol demand is low the prices will go up?
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All plants need a certain volume to remain profitable. When demand drops too low, oil rigs and refineries will be running at a loss and eventually they will be forced to close. When they close, supply drops and then prices go back up.

When demand drops, some petrol stations will close or convert to EV charging stations, then you have to driver farther to pump petrol.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 6 2026, 03:27 PM)
All plants need a certain volume to remain profitable. When demand drops too low, oil rigs and refineries will be running at a loss and eventually they will be forced to close. When they close, supply drops and then prices go back up.

When demand drops, some petrol stations will close or convert to EV charging stations, then you have to driver farther to pump petrol.
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wont that mean that electricity prices will go up? since demand is up? or are you saying that the equilibrium for that will change as well? prices for electricity will actually go down, correct?
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 03:35 PM)
wont that mean that electricity prices will go up? since demand is up? or are you saying that the equilibrium for that will change as well? prices for electricity will actually go down, correct?
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Yes, prices will go up if there are not enough plants to produce electricity.

But if you read the news, other countries are building more plants.

Wolf Warriors like to brag that China already has a lot of electricity producing capacity.

Malaysia I don't know.

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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 03:35 PM)
wont that mean that electricity prices will go up? since demand is up? or are you saying that the equilibrium for that will change as well? prices for electricity will actually go down, correct?
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Yes and no. Depending on the efficiency of transporting electricity to that station, is it cheaper than transporting tanker truck of petrol to it daily, weekly, monthly?

The cheapest way... Will win. As customers will calculate and the businesses Big and small also will calculate.


If you see Saudi throw big money into electrical infrastructure....you already know.... They did their calculation.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 6 2026, 11:12 AM)
Insurance only free towing up to XX km.

Give people RM50 tips to help tapau petrol probably cheaper than paying for towing.

Like I said in 1st page, EV fanbois always say need to plan every trip accordingly. It's true. Factual. That's what EV owners always say.
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bow low punya olang. beli bezza saja loh. sapa sulo lu beli EV ??
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post Feb 6 2026, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 03:35 PM)
wont that mean that electricity prices will go up? since demand is up? or are you saying that the equilibrium for that will change as well? prices for electricity will actually go down, correct?
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Petrol price goes up can be attribute to increase in crude oil, inflation in worker salary, exploration cost, cost of extraction, cost of transportation etc. In the end if no profit, siapa lagi mau do this business.

Electricity is different, one time capex on power plant and grid, the cost can be spread over 10-20 years fixed, the fluctuation part is the coal/gas price.
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post Feb 6 2026, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Feb 4 2026, 07:59 PM)
Tesla Model Y and a Xiaomi SU7

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Also don't wash at home or send for carwash. Otherwise can burn down.
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post Feb 6 2026, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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huh?

after owning 9 cars and 1 bike.... I never ever plan to ensure i have sufficient tank to reach anywhere, not enuf just hop in any station, 5 min later back on the road....
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post Feb 6 2026, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 4 2026, 06:49 PM)
not defending EV alot here, but these points all also can pin back to ICE cars

i still plan my logistics of petrol cars thoroughly and ensure sufficient tank to go here there
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question is how long u charge EV??? how long u fuel petrol to ICE car???
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post Feb 6 2026, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 6 2026, 05:07 PM)
huh?

after owning 9 cars and 1 bike.... I never ever plan to ensure i have sufficient tank to reach anywhere, not enuf just hop in any station, 5 min later back on the road....
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cause you dont drive anywhere that you will have any logistics issues mah laugh.gif

QUOTE(Jasonist @ Feb 6 2026, 05:07 PM)
question is how long u charge EV??? how long u fuel petrol to ICE car???
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mmg always ICE will win in charging time, no dispute

thus thats why need more planning ahead of time instead of being the misinformed user. you cannot use ICE car convenience to apply for EV cars.
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post Feb 6 2026, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 02:29 PM)
Model Y can fit your criteria nicely with 600km range WLTP (not NEDC bullshit), so tunggu apa lagi.

U sendiri pun tau the chicken and egg situation, basically place i go on Peninsula west coast area, within 30km can find one DC charger. For the year 2024-2025, i can see CPO aggresively install charger. Even TNB also install bunch of charger at rural area.

And your last question, u think petrol price won't go up in tandem with electricity cost, don't forget the price is determine by supply and demand, the lesser demand on petrol, the price of petrol will go up as well.
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not critic ev or praise ice, just i dont see full EV as the only car at least for next 3-5 years

now, still enjoying emitting carbon with my vroom vroom car. also tesla modal Y is ugly AF. minimally acceptable EV design for me is BYD seal. still subjective la. diff ppl diff taste

meanwhile for CPO, sked they go bankrupt when plug-in hybrid flood the market starting this year whistling.gif

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A classic example of FOMO.

You buy something based on your need, not because you're afraid of being left behind. Even now the OP thinks he's driving old tech for a 1 year old car.

People like this will never change. Something new comes out and being viral, the will queue up & buy without researching much.
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I run a 2.0T and my wife drives an EV. We are on landed and has charger at home. We decided an EV is the best option, for her usage to drive kids from school and do groceries. Previously with her ICE Mazda, need to idle for 1hr+ everyday while queueing in school for pickup. Bad for engine. Then battery die within 1 year easily. Got to deal with a bit of exhuast smell. Aircon not cold enough under the sun because compressor not power enough from idle engine.

Never regret, in fact, I consider that to be one of my best purchase decision in my life. Drive great too, more smooth than my 2.0T, even though it's the same 7.x sec 0-100. Cost per km is half compared to budi95.

EV may not be suitable for some, but it's in no way a bad technology at all.

I will switch over from ICE when solid state battery becomes available. No brainer.
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post Feb 6 2026, 09:26 PM

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After test drove plenty of EVs before the tax holiday ends, i have decided to go for PHEV....

Once kena the smooth motor torque + power, i kinda dont miss my current ICE cars both running on Turbo....


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tbh see the pattern looks like non ev owners the one making most noises yet again lol
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post Feb 6 2026, 11:10 PM

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So buy 2nd EV or nah?
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post Feb 6 2026, 11:16 PM

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"I live in a condo."

lol damn silly right. Imagine your phone cannot be charged at home.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 6 2026, 04:04 PM)
Yes and no. Depending on the efficiency of transporting electricity to that station, is it cheaper than transporting tanker truck of petrol to it  daily, weekly, monthly?

The cheapest way... Will win. As customers will calculate and the businesses Big and small also will calculate.
If you see Saudi throw big money into electrical infrastructure....you already know.... They did their calculation.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 04:39 PM)
Petrol price goes up can be attribute to increase in crude oil, inflation in worker salary, exploration cost, cost of extraction, cost of transportation etc. In the end if no profit, siapa lagi mau do this business.

Electricity is different, one time capex on power plant and grid, the cost can be spread over 10-20 years fixed, the fluctuation part is the coal/gas price.
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lol yes yes most definitely electricity rates will go down when the demand is high and petrol prices will go up when demand is low. Most definitely, no question about it.
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post Feb 9 2026, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 9 2026, 11:07 AM)
lol yes yes most definitely electricity rates will go down when the demand is high and petrol prices will go up when demand is low. Most definitely, no question about it.
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Demand cannot be higher than supply for electricity grid. Once hit optimum supply efficiency... Have to upgrade transformers and all the related grid equipments. Therefore, it is also not a invest once use forever.

Therefore with solar generation in landed housing, at least, part of the charging can be done while solar is generating...hence the independence.


And .gov + tnb will want the individual houses to install enough batteries so that the grid is not forced to operate outside of their powerplants optimum efficiency.


They are starting to see it, and so stop nem3.0 and do atap.
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post Feb 9 2026, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 9 2026, 12:18 PM)
Demand cannot be higher than supply for electricity grid. Once hit optimum supply efficiency... Have to upgrade transformers and all the related grid equipments. Therefore, it is also not a invest once use forever.

Therefore with solar generation in landed housing, at least, part of the charging can be done while solar is generating...hence the independence.
And .gov + tnb will want the individual houses to install enough batteries so that the grid is not forced to operate outside of their powerplants optimum efficiency.
They are starting to see it, and so stop nem3.0 and do atap.
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Now all those malls, hospital, glc, gomen building that use big open land woso got auto upgrade solar roof covered parking from tnb and its appointed subcon.

Must be eletric demand really skyrocket…
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tesla 750km range..what anxiety?
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post Feb 9 2026, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Feb 9 2026, 01:58 PM)
tesla 750km range..what anxiety?
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Yeah, the main issue is the owner did not buy Tesla. That's why
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You kena fikir lain sikit... kalau orang malaysia biasa, 100->25% nanti aku charge... so u 100->75% charge dulu baru jalan again...


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Anyhow EV, EV ecosystem. Is like changing from baby tooth to Adult tooth.

There are issues, and not issues that ends the world.

Media and certain groups of people are pushing for adoptions, and the other group pushing back.


If you do not participate in "social media" less headaches and arguments.
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post Feb 9 2026, 03:29 PM

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In future we probably can see many EV car in emergency lane, not moving. The was found to be okay but the driver was found dead due to stroke due to constantly in tense condition. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Feb 6 2026, 09:26 PM)
After test drove plenty of EVs before the tax holiday ends, i have decided to go for PHEV....

Once kena the smooth motor torque + power, i kinda dont miss my current ICE cars  both running on Turbo....
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which phev did u buy

 

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