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 I really regret buying EV🥲, Do you?

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post Feb 6 2026, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Feb 6 2026, 11:40 AM)
Stupid people buy what also sure regret lar. All those things should have been considered before buying not after. Problem is not EV but bodoh buyer.
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post Feb 6 2026, 01:01 PM

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Coating also stupid to me but human still pay the premium price for it, is a human choice regret or not business is business no one force you to buy anything for you to regret later.
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post Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 6 2026, 10:40 AM)
bruh, im not disputing that petrol cars have advantage in fast refill and convenience

but my point being if either ICE/EV users knew they gonna go to a place where logistics are questionable, they should do the preplanning accordingly

in ori post by the complainer it seems like they sendiri got prob go drive places until battery 30% then ganjeong2. sendiri cari pasal apa lagi
yeah just one simple thing to do like charge/pump in advance also they kecoh... dont understand

its like you leave house with smartphone battery 20% left.. ofc its gonna die in between while you commute etc if you have nowhere to charge  doh.gif
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This guy probably never ride a bike before. Any long trip also you need to plan properly for fill stations. You ain't pushing a 200kg++ bike. I ran dry once but lucky just 1 km from petrol station.. Miscalculated my speed and consumption.

You drive an EV, due to limited infra now, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. It's on you if you gancheong

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post Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 12:51 PM)
this. that time i may get my first ev car. with better tech and seamless transition.
meanwhile, those who get EV now, thanks for being the lab rat contributing to this evolution  notworthy.gif
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U should credit the China lab rat who did on Electric bus and EV car, they have started this decades ago and the one u see on the market is mature product, i still vividly remember first batch of Renault Zoe with 200km range.

What better tech u want? Range 1000km or battery swapping?
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post Feb 6 2026, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Feb 6 2026, 08:57 AM)
ICE petrol boleh tapaw in jerrycan, EV mau tapaw duracell, energizer and GP batteries ke?
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Ini mesti non-EV owner answer laugh.gif

Please google 3 pin plug EV charger and EV to EV charger, if battery drop below 20% speed cut and still tak mau go charge, conlanfirm is owner problem.


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post Feb 6 2026, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM)
U should credit the China lab rat who did on Electric bus and EV car, they have started this decades ago and the one u see on the market is mature product, i still vividly remember first batch of Renault Zoe with 200km range.

What better tech u want? Range 1000km or battery swapping?
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80% charge range 500km imo is sufficient for our highway

good time to buy for me is when DC (only) charger visible almost everywhere to the point where i dont have to think or queue
most ideal if can just do 5-10 minute charging for next 200km-300km

now like chicken and egg, charger not many coz volume of EV users is still low
to increase more EV users, need more chargers

last deal breaker is electricity cost in future. with demand from industry, AI, etc etc. will the cost stay competitive as petrol?
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post Feb 6 2026, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 12:51 PM)
this. that time i may get my first ev car. with better tech and seamless transition.
meanwhile, those who get EV now, thanks for being the lab rat contributing to this evolution  notworthy.gif
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sadly history shows ppl like you will never really get with the curve
always paranoid and criticizing
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post Feb 6 2026, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM)
This guy probably never ride a bike before. Any long trip also you need to plan properly for fill stations. You ain't pushing a 200kg++ bike. I ran dry once but lucky just 1 km from petrol station.. Miscalculated my speed and consumption.

You drive an EV, due to limited infra now, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. It's on you if you gancheong
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exactly, and read the maps in advance lol to find out where petrol stations are helps alot too

people who kept going on stuff like 'aiya still got enough petrol wan" are those fuks who never kena before the inconvenience of being stuck at side of road

those with EV needs to be way more conscious, if sendiri bodo2 dunno how adjust but go blame car fault when its clearly user problem
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 01:02 PM)
U should credit the China lab rat who did on Electric bus and EV car, they have started this decades ago and the one u see on the market is mature product, i still vividly remember first batch of Renault Zoe with 200km range.

What better tech u want? Range 1000km or battery swapping?
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1000km range also useless if you can't plan your journey. More headroom for mistakes but still. Battery swapping, even less possible infra. Now fast DC can get you 200-300km in an hour... It's not a big deal. Just have a break and coffee.

If a bmw electric scooter guy with 100km range can do a long road trip, no excuse 400-500km range a typical EV has, can't. Sure, it took him stupid time to do the trip but the point is, he can plan it well enough to make the trip and back.

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post Feb 6 2026, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Feb 6 2026, 01:20 PM)
80% charge range 500km imo is sufficient for our highway

good time to buy for me is when DC (only) charger visible almost everywhere to the point where i dont have to think or queue
most ideal if can just do 5-10 minute charging for next 200km-300km

now like chicken and egg, charger not many coz volume of EV users is still low
to increase more EV users, need more chargers

last deal breaker is electricity cost in future. with demand from industry, AI, etc etc. will the cost stay competitive as petrol?
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Model Y can fit your criteria nicely with 600km range WLTP (not NEDC bullshit), so tunggu apa lagi.

U sendiri pun tau the chicken and egg situation, basically place i go on Peninsula west coast area, within 30km can find one DC charger. For the year 2024-2025, i can see CPO aggresively install charger. Even TNB also install bunch of charger at rural area.

And your last question, u think petrol price won't go up in tandem with electricity cost, don't forget the price is determine by supply and demand, the lesser demand on petrol, the price of petrol will go up as well.
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post Feb 6 2026, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 02:29 PM)
Model Y can fit your criteria nicely with 600km range WLTP (not NEDC bullshit), so tunggu apa lagi.

U sendiri pun tau the chicken and egg situation, basically place i go on Peninsula west coast area, within 30km can find one DC charger. For the year 2024-2025, i can see CPO aggresively install charger. Even TNB also install bunch of charger at rural area.

And your last question, u think petrol price won't go up in tandem with electricity cost, don't forget the price is determine by supply and demand, the lesser demand on petrol, the price of petrol will go up as well.
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why would petrol prices go up when demand is low?
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:32 PM)
why would petrol prices go up when demand is low?
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google market Equilibrium on supply and demand and u will get the answer
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 02:35 PM)
google market Equilibrium on supply and demand and u will get the answer
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AI Overview
Equilibrium, Surplus, and Shortage | Microeconomics
Market equilibrium occurs when the quantity of a good supplied matches the quantity demanded at a specific price, known as the equilibrium price. Graphically, this is the intersection of demand and supply curves, where market forces prevent price changes unless external factors, such as shifts in demand or supply, alter the balance.

Key Concepts of Market Equilibrium
Equilibrium Price (Market-Clearing Price): The price point where consumers' desires agree with producers' desires, and all goods produced are sold.
Equilibrium Quantity: The amount of goods sold at the equilibrium price.
Surplus (Excess Supply): Occurs when the price is above equilibrium, causing the quantity supplied to exceed quantity demanded. This drives prices down.
Shortage (Excess Demand): Occurs when the price is below equilibrium, causing the quantity demanded to exceed quantity supplied. This drives prices up.

Factors Affecting Equilibrium
Demand Shifts: Changes in income, preferences, or substitute prices can shift the demand curve, changing the equilibrium price and quantity.
Supply Shifts: Changes in production costs, technology, or regulations can shift the supply curve, resulting in new equilibrium points

demand low supply high would mean the bolded, correct?
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post Feb 6 2026, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:40 PM)
AI Overview
Equilibrium, Surplus, and Shortage | Microeconomics
Market equilibrium occurs when the quantity of a good supplied matches the quantity demanded at a specific price, known as the equilibrium price. Graphically, this is the intersection of demand and supply curves, where market forces prevent price changes unless external factors, such as shifts in demand or supply, alter the balance.

Key Concepts of Market Equilibrium
Equilibrium Price (Market-Clearing Price): The price point where consumers' desires agree with producers' desires, and all goods produced are sold.
Equilibrium Quantity: The amount of goods sold at the equilibrium price.
Surplus (Excess Supply): Occurs when the price is above equilibrium, causing the quantity supplied to exceed quantity demanded. This drives prices down.
Shortage (Excess Demand): Occurs when the price is below equilibrium, causing the quantity demanded to exceed quantity supplied. This drives prices up.

Factors Affecting Equilibrium
Demand Shifts: Changes in income, preferences, or substitute prices can shift the demand curve, changing the equilibrium price and quantity.
Supply Shifts: Changes in production costs, technology, or regulations can shift the supply curve, resulting in new equilibrium points

demand low supply high would mean the bolded, correct?
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post Feb 6 2026, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 02:44 PM)
Read this chart

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lol okay? the only times that prices are high(er) is when demand is up. why not point to me in your chart what you mean when petrol demand is low the prices will go up?
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:50 PM)
lol okay? the only times that prices are high(er) is when demand is up. why not point to me in your chart what you mean when petrol demand is low the prices will go up?
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the oil industry has a list of supply chain which affect the price equilibrium, from oil extraction > refineries > petrol station

Don't forget the industry is running on a thin margin, even petrol station dealer also complain the the earning is eaten up by MDR charges, basically every industry chain in petroleum need profit to re-invest and operate. Don't forget transporation charges as well.


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 6 2026, 03:05 PM)
the oil industry has a list of supply chain which affect the price equilibrium, from oil extraction > refineries > petrol station

Don't forget the industry is running on a thin margin, even petrol station dealer also complain the the earning is eaten up by MDR charges, basically every industry chain in petroleum need profit to re-invest and operate. Don't forget transporation charges as well.
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also dont forget the demand as well. either the graph is wrong or you're wrong, pick one.

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QUOTE(DS51 @ Feb 4 2026, 08:50 PM)
My car can goes up to 880kmh for long distance and I fill at petronas. never ever, I planning where to fill as petronas is everywhere. that is the heaven of ice. what I hate about ice is need to change engine oil every 10k km while for ev busuk busuk 20k km only service.

never ever got range anxiety.
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My range is only 350-400km also never have any range anxiety.

Only anxiety is when suddenly the Low fuel light pop up and i have to look for the nearest Caltex.

Only brand loyalty anxiety...but if desperate, any station will do.
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post Feb 6 2026, 03:16 PM

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During peak periods, even driving ICE V, I get range anxiety when travelling on nshw where traffic jams are unpredictable. Then there's the long queue at petrol stations. There was once when I had to detour just to refuel as the R&R was closed for upgrading.

I don't think I can ever have EV as my only car for the next 5 years.
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QUOTE(garion @ Feb 6 2026, 02:50 PM)
lol okay? the only times that prices are high(er) is when demand is up. why not point to me in your chart what you mean when petrol demand is low the prices will go up?
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All plants need a certain volume to remain profitable. When demand drops too low, oil rigs and refineries will be running at a loss and eventually they will be forced to close. When they close, supply drops and then prices go back up.

When demand drops, some petrol stations will close or convert to EV charging stations, then you have to driver farther to pump petrol.

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