UMNO lupa PMX ditolak tahanan rumah sebelum ini, (Dan baca apa alasannya? Huhuhu)
UMNO lupa PMX ditolak tahanan rumah sebelum ini, (Dan baca apa alasannya? Huhuhu)
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Today, 08:02 AM
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UMNO and their WWE acting lor.
Semua sohai kat sini kena scam. That why MY consider scammer holy place |
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Today, 08:05 AM
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PMX main wayang sikit, /k dah puji serdangonline liked this post
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Today, 08:10 AM
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This one should be shown to that Pasir Gudang MP, Hassan Karim. He is even in the same party as Anwar.
Takkan tak tahu kot. Oh wait, tak dapat jawatan. Sebab tu meroyan. |
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Today, 08:11 AM
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Umno lupa, anwar juga banduan dulu
Mahkamah jatuhkan penjara atas kesalahan meliwat 2 kali So unmo jgn lupa |
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Today, 08:11 AM
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RAJA BERPELEMBAGAAN
Sistem negara ini ialah sistem Raja Berpelembagaan. Bukan Raja Mutlak. Maknanya, kuasa YDPA terbatas kepada peruntukan Perlembagaan dan kedaulatan undang2. Ini yang YDPA Abdullah cuba sampaikan Februari lalu. Bagi mereka yang nak faham isu. Baginda minta kita hormati undang2. Hari ini, Mahkamah dah putuskan, tiada tahanan rumah kerana Adendum yang dibuat tidak berpelembagaan. Tetapi Ketua Pemuda UMNO mengamuk dan dah hampir borderline menghina Mahkamah ya. Walhal YDPA dah pesan lama dah. Saya hairan, yang buat keputusan itu Mahkamah. Tapi dia mengamuk marahkan Kerajaan semasa. Adakah dia pikir PM dan Kabinet sekarang boleh suruh sarah Mahkamah ikut cakap mereka? If that’s the case. Kena ingat. DSNR dijatuhkan hukuman dan kena penjara ketika zaman UMNO jadi PM ya. Zaman orang dia DS Ismail Sabri jadi orang nombor satu negara Kalau masa UMNO jadi PM pun depa tak buat apa nak selamatkan bekas PM kesayangan mereka. Kenapa bila orang lain jadi PM mereka menyerang pula? Musykil hamba. ~LM~ |
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Today, 08:16 AM
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Bila UMNO mahu tarik support? 48 hours?
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Today, 08:24 AM
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UMNO thought they are above the law. Ikut suka hati.
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Today, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(akecema @ Dec 23 2025, 08:11 AM) Umno lupa, anwar juga banduan dulu With the Royal Pardon he got in 2018, it wipes clean all his wrong doings as if he never did those 'crimes'. So, you're basically quoting non-existent crimes. Mahkamah jatuhkan penjara atas kesalahan meliwat 2 kali So unmo jgn lupa https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2457295 |
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QUOTE(akecema @ Dec 23 2025, 08:11 AM) Umno lupa, anwar juga banduan dulu 3 kali banduan or 4 if count by case la:Mahkamah jatuhkan penjara atas kesalahan meliwat 2 kali So unmo jgn lupa 1st- 1974-1976 Demontrasi pelajar di Baling (ISA) 2nd- 1999-2004 Rasuah (6 month) + liwat 1 (9 years). But bebas earlier 3rd- 2015-2018 Liwat II (5 years) Bebas earlier bcoz king pardon This post has been edited by khusyairi: Today, 08:30 AM |
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Today, 08:34 AM
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Today, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 23 2025, 08:29 AM) With the Royal Pardon he got in 2018, it wipes clean all his wrong doings as if he never did those 'crimes'. So, you're basically quoting non-existent crimes. nope, pardon is only for those who are convicted. Pardon doesn't wipe the judicial record and doesn't have the same meaning as acquit by the justice system. He is still convicted for pardon crimes https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2457295 as AI said No, a pardon does not mean acquittal; an acquittal declares innocence (no crime committed), while a pardon forgives guilt after a conviction, removing penalties but not the fact of the conviction itself, though some "absolute" pardons can blot out guilt or restore rights like voting, with the conviction still visible on records unless expunged separately. An acquittal ends the legal case with a "not guilty" finding, whereas a pardon is executive grace, forgiving the consequences of a proven offense. |
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QUOTE(Medusakia @ Dec 23 2025, 08:11 AM) RAJA BERPELEMBAGAAN lebih kepada meroyan zaman bang non takdak banyak projek mega nak sauk duit rakyatSistem negara ini ialah sistem Raja Berpelembagaan. Bukan Raja Mutlak. Maknanya, kuasa YDPA terbatas kepada peruntukan Perlembagaan dan kedaulatan undang2. Ini yang YDPA Abdullah cuba sampaikan Februari lalu. Bagi mereka yang nak faham isu. Baginda minta kita hormati undang2. Hari ini, Mahkamah dah putuskan, tiada tahanan rumah kerana Adendum yang dibuat tidak berpelembagaan. Tetapi Ketua Pemuda UMNO mengamuk dan dah hampir borderline menghina Mahkamah ya. Walhal YDPA dah pesan lama dah. Saya hairan, yang buat keputusan itu Mahkamah. Tapi dia mengamuk marahkan Kerajaan semasa. Adakah dia pikir PM dan Kabinet sekarang boleh suruh sarah Mahkamah ikut cakap mereka? If that’s the case. Kena ingat. DSNR dijatuhkan hukuman dan kena penjara ketika zaman UMNO jadi PM ya. Zaman orang dia DS Ismail Sabri jadi orang nombor satu negara Kalau masa UMNO jadi PM pun depa tak buat apa nak selamatkan bekas PM kesayangan mereka. Kenapa bila orang lain jadi PM mereka menyerang pula? Musykil hamba. ~LM~ |
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Today, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(akecema @ Dec 23 2025, 08:11 AM) Umno lupa, anwar juga banduan dulu Yes. Dia main bontot orang. Hanya 1 atau 2 orang affected. Mahkamah jatuhkan penjara atas kesalahan meliwat 2 kali So unmo jgn lupa Jibai main dompet dekat bontot orang. Berapa orang affected? So by calculation orang affected siapa lebih teruk? |
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Today, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 23 2025, 08:34 AM) nope, pardon is only for those who are convicted. Pardon doesn't wipe the judicial record and doesn't have the same meaning as acquit by the justice system. He is still convicted for pardon crimes Thx for that infoas AI said No, a pardon does not mean acquittal; an acquittal declares innocence (no crime committed), while a pardon forgives guilt after a conviction, removing penalties but not the fact of the conviction itself, though some "absolute" pardons can blot out guilt or restore rights like voting, with the conviction still visible on records unless expunged separately. An acquittal ends the legal case with a "not guilty" finding, whereas a pardon is executive grace, forgiving the consequences of a proven offense. Yes pardon not ‘wipe clean’ all liwat record Anwar still ex banduan liwat forever And even agong said ‘clean’, its wont clean because no law said agong can clean it Same liek judge said no law for tahanan rumah |
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Today, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 23 2025, 08:29 AM) With the Royal Pardon he got in 2018, it wipes clean all his wrong doings as if he never did those 'crimes'. So, you're basically quoting non-existent crimes. So Najib also got Royal Pardon for reduced sentence, so he only commited half of his crime?https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2457295 This post has been edited by RicoT: Today, 08:52 AM |
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Today, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Dec 23 2025, 08:52 AM) Again, Agong only can pardon the punishment, not crime recordNajib will always ex banduan songlap forever, even after received pardon Same as anwar, he always ex banduan liwat forever |
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Today, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 23 2025, 08:34 AM) nope, pardon is only for those who are convicted. Pardon doesn't wipe the judicial record and doesn't have the same meaning as acquit by the justice system. He is still convicted for pardon crimes May I know what is the prompt you use to ask that question to AI? Did you feed AI with the cases first and did you feed AI with the new I attached too? as AI said No, a pardon does not mean acquittal; an acquittal declares innocence (no crime committed), while a pardon forgives guilt after a conviction, removing penalties but not the fact of the conviction itself, though some "absolute" pardons can blot out guilt or restore rights like voting, with the conviction still visible on records unless expunged separately. An acquittal ends the legal case with a "not guilty" finding, whereas a pardon is executive grace, forgiving the consequences of a proven offense. QUOTE(RicoT @ Dec 23 2025, 08:52 AM) Reduced sentence is not a pardon. |
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Today, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 23 2025, 09:25 AM) May I know what is the prompt you use to ask that question to AI? Did you feed AI with the cases first and did you feed AI with the new I attached too? Again, Agong only can pardon on sentence not crimeReduced sentence is not a pardon. Reducing the sentence is Agong pardon |
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Today, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 23 2025, 09:25 AM) May I know what is the prompt you use to ask that question to AI? Did you feed AI with the cases first and did you feed AI with the new I attached too? let me try that againReduced sentence is not a pardon. No, a pardon is not the same as an acquittal in Malaysia. The fundamental difference is that an acquittal is a court decision that a person is not guilty of the crime, while a pardon is an act of executive mercy that forgives the punishment for a crime that has already resulted in a conviction. Key distinctions between a pardon and an acquittal in Malaysia: Acquittal: A court-ordered finding that the prosecution has not proven the charge against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt. It means the person is legally considered not guilty of the offence. It is granted during or at the end of a trial process. Pardon: An act of royal prerogative by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong or a State Ruler, acting on the advice of the Pardons Board. It is typically granted after a person has been convicted and exhausted all legal appeals. A pardon does not erase the conviction itself from the court records; the court order of guilt remains intact. Its effect is to remove the legal punishment and any associated disqualifications (such as a ban from holding public office). There are two types of pardons in Malaysia: Conditional Pardon: The sentence is substituted with a lesser punishment (e.g., a death sentence commuted to life imprisonment, or a jail term reduced). Free (or Full) Pardon: This form removes all punishments and consequences of the offence, effectively clearing a person from the "infamy" of the crime. However, the legal consensus is that even a free pardon does not function as an acquittal or expungement of the original court conviction. In essence, an acquittal means you did not commit the crime in the eyes of the law, while a pardon means you committed the crime but are officially forgiven the consequences by the executive authority. frossonice liked this post
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Today, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(WongTheThief @ Dec 23 2025, 08:34 AM) same like those sohai lorry gang that ask anthony loke to erase all their saman in 48 hours or else they come putrajaya protest They also cannot afford to lose positions and income from ministerial posts. I dared them to quit now. No need 48 hours. 48 minutes enough to draft letters of resignation and SDs. WongTheThief liked this post
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