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post Dec 21 2025, 12:28 PM, updated 7h ago

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tiru that other thread about cars.
this is for the rest of the boys that actually have some balls to ride high powered bikes.

backstory:
i've been riding all my life.
currently on a triumph tiger 800 xcx that is now nearly 5 years with me.
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good bike.
been everywhere with it.
took me through everything. and never had any major issues.
in fact never had any issue with it.

but after a while you seem to not get intimidated by it.
you don't get scared of it anymore. it slides, it wheelies, it slipped and you just smile and laugh and giggle in your helmet.

so you go out for test rides hoping to get bitten by the itch.
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post Dec 21 2025, 12:32 PM

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ducati desert x.

test rode this 2 times.
probably the best do everything conti bike i've ever ridden.
but too expensive parts and too expensive maintenance routine that i'm not willing to spend on.

hard to self maintain this bike at home.
some of the routine and service tools/manual can't get outside of official channel.
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post Dec 21 2025, 12:32 PM

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pinggang blkg tak saket kalo long distance ride??
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post Dec 21 2025, 12:41 PM

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hati want one but the maintenance cost tells me "fk you"

the one i wanted is cb650 or cb350rs

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Waiting for CB1000F 😍
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post Dec 21 2025, 12:52 PM

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i once test rode adv gs1250, that 280kilo beast really felt weightless....i could u-turn very easily compared to smaller bikes like versys or vstrom...

then 1 time i rode multistrada 950... really powerful for an adv bike...

tried african twin b4, comfort tip top..

haven't got chance to try triumph...

next month gonna try gsxs 1000 gx
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post Dec 21 2025, 01:06 PM

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Real men ride Honda C70
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post Dec 21 2025, 01:08 PM

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test ride shop mv Agusta 1 hand clutchless riding. gor wheelie also but no ppl take vid. gor test r1 from kolik. r6. s1000 rr . harley sportster. ducati streetfighter. ducati multistrada

https://youtu.be/


here got vid wheelie a 450

https://youtu.be/

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Without prior experience on bike or even a kapcai,

Ayam just passed B full back in Apr.

Now just starting off with a CFMoto 250 nekkid

Already looking forward to higher cc bikes
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 21 2025, 01:06 PM)
Real men ride Honda C70
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That's the real men



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Real poor men live longer though, no suicide highway convoy. tongue.gif
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So ts, what bike engine oil is good?
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post Dec 21 2025, 01:52 PM

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hello TS. Curious to know what are your thoughts on the automatification trend when it comes to transmission. Tech like quickshift getting more common by the days, to top it all off, Honda is implementing e clutch on more models https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/...to-more-models/.

I can't help but feeling that bikes are in the midst of transition phase from manual to automatic gearbox as the mainstream config as the automobiles did a decade ago.

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post Dec 21 2025, 05:53 PM

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If anyone went to the test ride event yesterday at BigWing Penang can see me. I'm the guy with the high cut boots on that green tiger. There's only another uncle with high cut racing boots.

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They have the newest Xadv V3 on test even tho it's not listed in the bike list.

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Test ride with no marshall, no set route.
And when I arrive in the morning at 930am there's no one else. No queue so they let me take it out for longer.
So I had quite a bit more time with it round the island. Even took it up layan corner balik pulau hill.

Seriously I don't understand how some people are willing to pay rm90k for this glorified scooter.
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QUOTE(kweil @ Dec 21 2025, 12:32 PM)
pinggang blkg tak saket kalo long distance ride??
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Surprisingly I feel less tired on a bike than driving.
I could do 12 hours from 6am to 7pm on the bike and not feel tired.

Belakang tak sakit if you ride a touring bike or an adventure bike. Heard people say ride scooter also tak sakit belakang.

QUOTE(terradrive @ Dec 21 2025, 12:41 PM)
hati want one but the maintenance cost tells me "fk you"

the one i wanted is cb650 or cb350rs
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It's actually cheaper to maintain a big bike versus a diesel pickup truck or large diesel SUV.
I have a Nissan navara and my bike is cheaper to maintain and run.

QUOTE(xiulaba @ Dec 21 2025, 12:44 PM)
Waiting for CB1000F 😍
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Yesterday test ride event Honda have the CB1000SP for test.
Didn't try it since not looking to buy a naked or street fighter.

QUOTE(freeknd @ Dec 21 2025, 12:52 PM)
i once test rode adv gs1250, that 280kilo beast really felt weightless....i could u-turn very easily compared to smaller bikes like versys or vstrom...

then 1 time i rode multistrada 950... really powerful for an adv bike...

tried african twin b4, comfort tip top..

haven't got chance to try triumph...

next month gonna try gsxs 1000 gx
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Ive tried the gsx1000gx before.
Later upload my opinion on it.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 21 2025, 01:06 PM)
Real men ride Honda C70
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post Dec 21 2025, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Dec 21 2025, 01:08 PM)
Without prior experience on bike or even a kapcai,

Ayam just passed B full back in Apr.

Now just starting off with a CFMoto 250 nekkid

Already looking forward to higher cc bikes
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Take it slow.
High power bikes have less safety margin.
Since it's really easy to get up to high speed, safe response time is also reduced.

Most important skill is to predict traffic. You learn that through seat time.

QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 21 2025, 01:30 PM)
Real poor men live longer though, no suicide highway convoy.  tongue.gif
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I don't like convoys.
So most of the time I ride solo.

The larger the convoy, the more dangerous it becomes.

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 21 2025, 01:51 PM)
So ts, what bike engine oil is good?
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Depends. Any original engine oil is good.
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I run cheap mizu 4t oil for 40,000km bought from shopee and it's good enough for me.

Now change to motul for 10,000km after mizu gained in popularity and no longer cheap.
Cheap original oil frequently changed is 10000x better than expensive oil but rarely change.

QUOTE(imalmighty @ Dec 21 2025, 01:52 PM)
hello TS. Curious to know what are your thoughts on the automatification trend when it comes to transmission. Tech like quickshift getting more common by the days, to top it all off, Honda is implementing e clutch on more models https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/...to-more-models/.

I can't help but feeling that bikes are in the midst of transition phase from manual to automatic gearbox as the mainstream config as the automobiles did a decade ago.
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Autobox is good.
Quickshifter is also good.
Eclutch is also good.

Any option is a good option.
I tend to prefer manual clutch since I like to be in control of the gearing but having tried DCT it's also a nice feature to have.
Maybe for the rest of us that prefer to have both, eclutch is a good thing.
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post Dec 21 2025, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 21 2025, 06:00 PM)
Surprisingly I feel less tired on a bike than driving.
I could do 12 hours from 6am to 7pm on the bike and not feel tired.

Belakang tak sakit if you ride a touring bike or an adventure bike. Heard people say ride scooter also tak sakit belakang.
It's actually cheaper to maintain a big bike versus a diesel pickup truck or large diesel SUV.
I have a Nissan navara and my bike is cheaper to maintain and run.
Yesterday test ride event Honda have the CB1000SP for test.
Didn't try it since not looking to buy a naked or street fighter.
Ive tried the gsx1000gx before.
Later upload my opinion on it.
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I have a hailak too, but I calculated it's more expensive to bela a bike if both mileage are the same, excluding fuel costs. also in sabah my roadtax only rm207. I thinking to just own some 250 saja for a few years to play play

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post Dec 21 2025, 06:35 PM

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Great effort from BigWing penang to provide the newest Africa Twin adventure sports for testing

Rm120k and worth every penny.

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Again no queue to take my sweet time with it.
And oh boy it was really sweet indeed.

The DCT gearbox is really good. Always in the right gear at the right time. Clever box.
Much more clever than the xadv DCT. Less gear hunting because of the ample torque from the 1100cc engine.

Easier to maneuver than the xadv in tight spot.
More nimble than the xadv in city lanes.
Easier to handle than the xadv in traffic jam.

Really impressed!
Its a full sized adventure bike, much bigger than the xadv but easier to ride. Heck it's easier to handle than my lighter tiger 800.
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Full auto is boring as fuck. Just see op la. Only unkers love dct.
Honda eclutch is the best implementation imo. Doesn't take away the ability to shift if i want.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Dec 21 2025, 06:27 PM)
I have a hailak too, but I calculated it's more expensive to bela a bike if both mileage are the same, excluding fuel costs. also in sabah my roadtax only rm207. I thinking to just own some 250 saja for a few years to play play
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Good for u in the east.
Here rm800 roadtax
Diesel I fill rm200 not enough for a full tank.
Only can travel for 600km.

My bike RM40-50 can do 600km
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post Dec 21 2025, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 21 2025, 06:52 PM)
Good for u in the east.
Here rm800 roadtax
Diesel I fill rm200 not enough for a full tank.
Only can travel for 600km.

My bike RM40-50 can do 600km
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maintenance roughly how much?

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the ancient big twin V, fattest of em all(in terms of weight).

But each to their own and we don't discriminate, we welcome all riders of the 2 wheel. Kecik, besaq, mahai murah kita kawan semua, ride sama2

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 21 2025, 05:53 PM)
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If anyone went to the test ride event yesterday at BigWing Penang can see me. I'm the guy with the high cut boots on that green tiger. There's only another uncle with high cut racing boots.

user posted image
They have the newest Xadv V3 on test even tho it's not listed in the bike list.

user posted image
Test ride with no marshall, no set route.
And when I arrive in the morning at 930am there's no one else. No queue so they let me take it out for longer.
So I had quite a bit more time with it round the island. Even took it up layan corner balik pulau hill.

Seriously I don't understand how some people are willing to pay rm90k for this glorified scooter.
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No stock mah...waiting list almost 18mths for v2 ...

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 21 2025, 12:28 PM)
tiru that other thread about cars.
this is for the rest of the boys that actually have some balls to ride high powered bikes.

backstory:
i've been riding all my life.
currently on a triumph tiger 800 xcx that is now nearly 5 years with me.
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good bike.
been everywhere with it.
took me through everything. and never had any major issues.
in fact never had any issue with it.

but after a while you seem to not get intimidated by it.
you don't get scared of it anymore. it slides, it wheelies, it slipped and you just smile and laugh and giggle in your helmet.

so you go out for test rides hoping to get bitten by the itch.
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Have you tried the Ducati hypermotard 790? How's the triumph to this?

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Dec 21 2025, 12:41 PM)
hati want one but the maintenance cost tells me "fk you"

the one i wanted is cb650 or cb350rs
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I have CBR650F and the maintenance cheap only la
Where got expensive
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Question to TS

Your bike got modify exhaust or not? brows.gif
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QUOTE(kweil @ Dec 21 2025, 12:32 PM)
pinggang blkg tak saket kalo long distance ride??
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Ride to krabi with R1, maderparker never again. Regretted like fark.
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Dec 21 2025, 06:50 PM)
Full auto is boring as fuck. Just see op la. Only unkers love dct.
Honda eclutch is the best implementation imo. Doesn't take away the ability to shift if i want.
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I think bikes will undergo the same path as cars. There is bound to be enthusiasts who don't want the added weight of eclutch and prefer to stick with pure manual.

At least keep the pure manual option for as many variants as possible, not gatekeep to certain models.
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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 21 2025, 05:53 PM)
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They have the newest Xadv V3 on test even tho it's not listed in the bike list.

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Test ride with no marshall, no set route.
And when I arrive in the morning at 930am there's no one else. No queue so they let me take it out for longer.
So I had quite a bit more time with it round the island. Even took it up layan corner balik pulau hill.

Seriously I don't understand how some people are willing to pay rm90k for this glorified scooter.
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X-Adv V3 still has long waiting list?
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Dec 21 2025, 06:50 PM)
Full auto is boring as fuck. Just see op la. Only unkers love dct.
Honda eclutch is the best implementation imo. Doesn't take away the ability to shift if i want.
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But but I see a lot of xadv riders are young.
And majority of the adventure touring owners are uncle.

Your logic is flawed?

QUOTE(pokchik @ Dec 21 2025, 06:53 PM)
maintenance roughly how much?
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Ballpark about rm1k a year.
I do most of the maintenance to all my cars truck and bikes myself. Life in rural area it's 1 hour to SC and a waste of my time.

I do about 10,000 km a year on the bike.
My last anakee adventure lasts 30,000km
Chain & sprocket lasts 50,000km
Brake pad lasts 30,000 I change already gatal tangan.
Only change 4T engine oil, no gearbox oil, no differential oil, no transfer case oil.
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Dec 21 2025, 07:09 PM)
the ancient big twin V, fattest of em all(in terms of weight).

But each to their own and we don't discriminate, we welcome all riders of the 2 wheel. Kecik, besaq, mahai murah kita kawan semua, ride sama2
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Bikers don't discriminate.
Those that have big bikes almost certainly have another smaller kapcai or scooter at home.

QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 21 2025, 07:20 PM)
No stock mah...waiting list almost 18mths for v2 ...
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But but after extensive test ride I feel there's nothing special about it.
Spent an hour with it in mixed road condition and still don't get the appeal.

QUOTE(sinnlig @ Dec 21 2025, 07:22 PM)
Have you tried the Ducati hypermotard 790? How's the triumph to this?
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I think so.
Tried one naked Ducati at Rimba Raid.

Street fighter or hypermotard or monster can't remember ahaha. Need to find back pics.
Triumph tiger is adventure touring. Hypermotard is naked/street fighter. I don't prefer the riding position.

Between hypermotard or triumph street twin/speed twin/scrambler I'll take the upright position.

QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 21 2025, 07:39 PM)
Question to TS

Your bike got modify exhaust or not?  brows.gif
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Of course.
Sounds like thunder.

I don't need to horn, I just blip the throttle to get attention. brows.gif
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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 22 2025, 10:02 AM)
Sounds like thunder.

I don't need to horn, I just blip the throttle to get attention. brows.gif
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So far ada kena saman or not?

My bike 2nd hand comes with sc project exhaust. Thinking if want to change to stock.
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QUOTE(supermoto @ Dec 21 2025, 08:46 PM)
lol paskal seen ur face why hide
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I shy in /k
Not shy in biker base.

QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Dec 22 2025, 09:32 AM)
X-Adv V3 still has long waiting list?
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No idea.
Not interested so didn't ask.
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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 21 2025, 06:00 PM)

Yesterday test ride event Honda have the CB1000SP for test.
Didn't try it since not looking to buy a naked or street fighter.
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The CB1000F is supposed to have a slightly detuned engine compare to the CB1000SP, and a more relaxed riding position, for more chill riders I guess. Hope they will bring it in la, quite like the looks.
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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 22 2025, 09:50 AM)
Ballpark about rm1k a year.
I do most of the maintenance to all my cars truck and bikes myself. Life in rural area it's 1 hour to SC and a waste of my time.

I do about 10,000 km a year on the bike.
My last anakee adventure lasts 30,000km
Chain & sprocket lasts 50,000km
Brake pad lasts 30,000 I change already gatal tangan.
Only change 4T engine oil, no gearbox oil, no differential oil, no transfer case oil.
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RM1k/yr sounds not bad actually.. but a man can only dream.. kikiki..

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Suzuki GSX S1000GX
150bhp

Similar power level from some jap 2.4 liter car engine.
Yet when car engines have to lug 1.5 tonne around, bike engines have to pull only 200kg.
It's akin to riding a dragon. A cool, beautiful, shapely dragon.

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Feels really light.
Seat height is quite low, and I can flat foot both feet.
Center of gravity also low making maneuvering easy.

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Have some huge expectations when I throw my legs over.
After all, it's the first bike from Suzuki with semi active suspension. Fully electronic adjustment with continuous, dynamic damping control. Supposed to be able to smooth up bumps. Something like skyhook system from Ducati.
So my expectation is through the roof.

A bit let down.
The system sometimes work and sometimes doesn't. When it doesn't, the suspension is very jarring. Small bumps that won't feel on my tiger suddenly felt shocking. Like 30% of the time the system are not able to provide correct feedback to the absorber and it kinda make the whole experience worse versus a good adjustable suspension.
Tried changing the settings multiple time, various configuration still the same. When it works it's really comfortable.

Engine response is good.
Still the same character of 4 inlines, initial pull is softer. When it goes to mid rpm then it pulls away harder. Initial pull is softer than something like ktm duke 990.
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Side by side with the tiger, I really think the tiger look more intimidating. Lagi jahat?

The tiger is a 2018 model.
The fully adjustable WP suspension in the XCX model is a really gem of a suspension. Absorbs bump like nobody business and really long travel make it a really comfortable touring machine.

The s1000gx is a really good bike. CBU, fully made in Japan and would probably suit the needs of many.
Not for me tho. Not much of an upgrade compared to the current tiger.

And I find the sitting position of the s1000gx to be a bit weird.
You won't feel it when the bike is stationary in showroom. Take it for a ride to see if you're OK with the position of the pegs.
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QUOTE(pokchik @ Dec 22 2025, 07:20 PM)
RM1k/yr sounds not bad actually.. but a man can only dream.. kikiki..
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If you do the service yourself.
Sending to SC or outside workshop be prepared to kena sembelih.

Especially if you're riding non conformal continental makes.
Shops see bmw, aprilia, mv agusta, ducati they see $$$ on your forehead.
Triumph is in the same group.

 

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