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 Are you really sure you are using ORIGINAL parts?, Even workshop TAUKE kena upcar

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post Yesterday, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 15 2025, 02:36 PM)
I think need to differentiate non-ori vs fake. Non ori is aftermarket. You buy knowing it's not made by OEM (again, OEM means original equipment manufacturer, not fake/third party).

I use non-ori third party engine air filter for my ride (Bosch) instead of Honda. I will stay away from fake filter (unknown origin).

Otoh, fake means the parts are stamped with original brand (Honda ke, Bosch ke) but is actually cap ayam.

That's my understanding.
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Agree, this is my understanding too

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 15 2025, 02:34 PM)
You are right. But abit different from my understanding. Correct me if I am wrong. Eg, honda suspension is using kayaba. So you can purchase 3 types of items:
- honda brand (which is from kyb), most expensive cos of the honda brand
- oem from kyb (exact same item), but cheaper cos without honda logo
- another oem which is not kyb, but still a genuine item. Normally this is the cheapest to cater for customer which can't afford the above 2
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Honda should be using Showa iinm, not kyb.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 15 2025, 02:38 PM)
Honda should be using Showa iinm, not kyb.
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Confirm kyb, I got see my foremen dismantle before. But maybe diff model use diff brand? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 15 2025, 02:10 PM)
Not really. I bought toyota spare parts from vanli before. From their jalan ipoh HQ , i walked in. I was offered "clone" or ori version of a cabin filter for a Vios.
So they also sell non genuine parts. Be careful
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You were offered. They didn't lie to you.
Scamming you would be selling you clone version claiming it's original.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 15 2025, 02:38 PM)
Confirm kyb, I got see my foremen dismantle before. But maybe diff model use diff brand? hmm.gif
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You sure the car was using factory fitted absorber? Belum pernah tukar?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 15 2025, 02:42 PM)
You sure the car was using factory fitted absorber? Belum pernah tukar?
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Confirm. Belum tukar. Actually, this is the first time I heard of showa. Most honda model use kyb one sweat.gif
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post Yesterday, 03:00 PM

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Oem parts still acceptable as already said so…but fake original and fake oem is what currently flooding online …

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post Yesterday, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 15 2025, 11:22 AM)
Tauke found out got spare parts seller fake item


Mahle HQ inspection eventually found out both are fake


Few months ago i bought Shopee fully synthetic seller claim original 100% authentic
They got KPNDKK approval, import license etc
When i received there is indeed has QR code, but the QR code lead you to invalid 404 link
I know i already upcar when i see the QR code cannot function

With the flooded goods especially from China
The so call ORIGINAL item/spare parts you bought from SHOPEE/LAZADA are mostly fake

Even workshop tauke kena upcar
a layman like you and me, able recognized the ORIGINAL quality you bought online from untrusted seller/source?
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go find official reseller lorr

ayam usually go buy straight to Bavarian Auto lorr..if fake fuck liaoo lorr..kek

if honda got official distributor maa
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aku beli minyak mannol rm240, tapi suddenly lotus got sell for rm109, but everyone say ori jugak...aku pun jem
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 15 2025, 02:36 PM)
I think need to differentiate non-ori vs fake. Non ori is aftermarket. You buy knowing it's not made by OEM (again, OEM means original equipment manufacturer, not fake/third party).

I use non-ori third party engine air filter for my ride (Bosch) instead of Honda. I will stay away from fake filter (unknown origin).

Otoh, fake means the parts are stamped with original brand (Honda ke, Bosch ke) but is actually cap ayam.

That's my understanding.
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I've been to a workshop, and they suggested changing my absober mounting and mentioned it's OEM. But in reality, it's fake. As there's Honda stamping. So if a WS mentioned its OEM it has to be the same thing but a different brand.

TLDR, the mounting gone witin 6 months.. so just get ori. less of a hassle.


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post Yesterday, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 15 2025, 02:38 PM)
Honda should be using Showa iinm, not kyb.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 15 2025, 02:38 PM)
Confirm kyb, I got see my foremen dismantle before. But maybe diff model use diff brand? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 15 2025, 02:47 PM)
Confirm. Belum tukar. Actually, this is the first time I heard of showa. Most honda model use kyb one  sweat.gif
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It depends on the Year/Model and batch.. Most manufacturers won't use just one supplier. But anyway. Honda has its own spec, and KYB & Showa have theirs. You change to KYB, not necessarily the same feeling you get with Honda Ori.

The same goes for brake pad. Honda ori will last longer compared to Akebono, even though its from the same company.
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Intro me where to get liqui moly or any good alternative EO for old car
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 15 2025, 02:10 PM)
Not really. I bought toyota spare parts from vanli before. From their jalan ipoh HQ , i walked in. I was offered "clone" or ori version of a cabin filter for a Vios.
So they also sell non genuine parts. Be careful
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They already stated it out upfront (offer) to you before you decide and what is that to be careful about?

That is not scamming but rather giving options to customer which customer is the one to decide.
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QUOTE(Xith @ Dec 15 2025, 04:25 PM)
Intro me where to get liqui moly or any good alternative EO for old car
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Kakimotor or Liqui Moly offical store on shopee.
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Ayam 100% sure ayam using oem/copycat spare parts...
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Dec 15 2025, 04:17 PM)
I've been to a workshop, and they suggested changing my absober mounting and mentioned it's OEM. But in reality, it's fake. As there's Honda stamping. So if a WS mentioned its OEM it has to be the same thing but a different brand.

TLDR, the mounting gone witin 6 months.. so just get ori. less of a hassle.
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Even OEM has multiple tier, my car drive shaft OEM options ranging from rm150 - RM1.8K, yes the OEM price gap is farking huge, but my foreman did layout the options to me and let me decide, quality wise also of course big difference

at the end i choose ori RM2k++ for peace of mind and i wanna avoid double or triple labor charges.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 15 2025, 02:36 PM)
I think need to differentiate non-ori vs fake. Non ori is aftermarket. You buy knowing it's not made by OEM (again, OEM means original equipment manufacturer, not fake/third party).

I use non-ori third party engine air filter for my ride (Bosch) instead of Honda. I will stay away from fake filter (unknown origin).

Otoh, fake means the parts are stamped with original brand (Honda ke, Bosch ke) but is actually cap ayam.

That's my understanding.
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yes but i think here use OEM inaccurately too.
OEM like you said mean original equipment manufacturer, means same manufacturer that provide the same part to the car brand but cannot stamp it with the car brand.
here, every third party also called OEM laugh.gif

where got so many OEM for the same part.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Dec 15 2025, 04:56 PM)
yes but i think here use OEM inaccurately too.
OEM like you said mean original equipment manufacturer, means same manufacturer that provide the same part to the car brand but cannot stamp it with the car brand.
here, every third party also called OEM  laugh.gif

where got so many OEM for the same part.
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Here, OEM means copy/aftermarket/third party 😂


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I use oil collected from scrap oil bottle for my crap ass waja, ori or not also dunno, so i change it like every 2000km. I already informed my friend at the besi buruk, got waja / satria / wira / gen2 / persona parts all set aside, i will come and inspect, looks good, bring home keep.

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